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slacker9876

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Last reply Aug 26, 2011 · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

HR24-500 or Tivo holdout?

No doubt I love TiVo but I cannot go without NFLST so I wanted to ask if anyone has even heard of a soft release for the next DirecTiVo? DirecTV has been saying for a year it is coming, but it looks more like vaporware every day and I need something better than the gawd-awful slow HR-20 I huge now. I don't think it is supposed to take 2-3 seconds to change channels, but it does

TIA all!

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Aridon

Aug 24, 2011

As someone that recently left D*, move to Comcast and is now using a Tivo premiere I'm qualified to offer some comparisons. 
 
The Tivo HD interface is pretty awful. Its very laggy when moving around in the now playing list taking about 1.5 to 2 seconds to update show information as you scroll through your list. Compared with the SD interface which is instant. Compared with the D* interface which is also relatively instant. This is a programming issue with caching and internet access that TIVO refuses to fix. The switch from HD to SD menus more than a step or two deep into the tivo is also fairly jarring but far less annoying that the interface lag. After a week or so of playing with the HD interface I've permanently switched it off and now use the SD one. 
 
The guide information hasn't changed look in 12 years or so. Its about as fast as the HR24. I prefer the look of D* but honestly the Tivo guide is good enough. One annoying thing is that when you are surfing in the guide it doesn't show you upcoming recordings with a red mark like on D* or Dish. It will show the marks only for shows currently recording which is annoying if you want to see if a specific episode is recording forcing you to wade through tens to hundreds of shows in the to do list or going into the season pass to see upcoming episodes. 
 
Search functions are about the same on both IMO. 
 
Season passes work about the same as well. 
 
D* has the advantage with conflicts allowing you to select which show you want to cancel if there is a recording conflict where Tivo only will allow you to cancel the lesser priority show. This is annoying. 
 
Tivo also has a overlap protection thing that is annoying at times. D* was seamless Tivo will sometimes clip shows when there is no need to clip them simply because it seems it has to start about a minute early on other recording when it really isnt' necessary. Never had an issue with D*. 
 
Netflix integration is also very poor with a folder menu style interface. The big issue being most of your shows will not show up despite being offered by Netflix. See the Tivo has a retarded limit of 50 or so episodes and after that its buggy as hell to get them to show up. So shows with multiple seasons are difficult to navigate. Frankly its so bad I use my 360 most of the time and IMO a Roku box would do a far better job. 
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IMO Tivo won't be around in another 5 years. They have sat on their laurels for far too long and Cable Co DVRs are rapidly approaching Tivo quality. D and Dish have already surpassed it IMO. Now that Tivo has raised prices and forced contracts I can't see them adding subscribers to replace one ones who have been leaving. Hemorrhaging actually.

Don't bet on getting netflix on D* I doubt it will happen. Also MRV is likely out as well. So if it ever releases I doubt people will be willing to pay more for less.

slacker9876

Aug 24, 2011

I also have the TiVo premier. I also shut of the HD menus, mostly because they are not all HD anyway ... Only the main menu. I also prefer those SD menus as they are what I've always had. A resolution update of the same old menus would suit me fine.

I don't have the lag that you describe or the Netflix menu limitation. In fact "Star Trek" currently lists 87 episodes in the main folder. Weeds is nice enough to break up by season too.

Either way it all boils down to preference. Scott just reannounced that it is expected next month. I've waited this long ....

Bigguy

Aug 24, 2011

I have 2 hr24-500 and love them. I no longer use my TIVO even for OTA

Aridon

Aug 24, 2011

slacker9876 said:
I also have the TiVo premier. I also shut of the HD menus, mostly because they are not all HD anyway ... Only the main menu. I also prefer those SD menus as they are what I've always had. A resolution update of the same old menus would suit me fine. &amp;amp;lt;br /&amp;amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt; 
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I don't have the lag that you describe or the Netflix menu limitation. In fact &amp;amp;amp;quot;Star Trek&amp;amp;amp;quot; currently lists 87 episodes in the main folder. Weeds is nice enough to break up by season too. &amp;amp;lt;br /&amp;amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt; 
&amp;amp;lt;br /&amp;amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt; 
Either way it all boils down to preference. Scott just reannounced that it is expected next month. I've waited this long ....

&amp;amp;lt;br /&amp;amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt; 

Put something like married with children in your queue for fun. It will list the total episodes correctly but then go into each one and scroll through season by season. You will see SE1EP01 to SE3EP12 or something like that in order perfectly fine. Keep going and you'll see it will start skipping episodes. Even though they are available. Now go into the middle of the pack of episodes, load one, let it play for a minute or two then exit out. You'll see the episodes in the first part of the list are now missing and the 50 or so from the middle where you watched the episode are all listed properly

The limit might be 100 or 50 I forget which since i don't use it anymore.

As for the lag, when you go into a folder in your now playing list and select a show, it doesn't take a second or two for the information to show up in the bottom right with the show info, date recorded etc? This continues as you scroll through and never caches because if you go back it still takes just as long to show it even if you just move the cursor down and up again. When you go into a folder and show on the SD menu and use the chan down and up buttons to move through the shows its instant.

slacker9876

Aug 26, 2011

Aridon said:
Put something like married with children in your queue for fun. It will list the total episodes correctly but then go into each one and scroll through season by season. You will see SE1EP01 to SE3EP12 or something like that in order perfectly fine. Keep going and you'll see it will start skipping episodes. Even though they are available. Now go into the middle of the pack of episodes, load one, let it play for a minute or two then exit out. You'll see the episodes in the first part of the list are now missing and the 50 or so from the middle where you watched the episode are all listed properly

The limit might be 100 or 50 I forget which since i don't use it anymore.

As for the lag, when you go into a folder in your now playing list and select a show, it doesn't take a second or two for the information to show up in the bottom right with the show info, date recorded etc? This continues as you scroll through and never caches because if you go back it still takes just as long to show it even if you just move the cursor down and up again. When you go into a folder and show on the SD menu and use the chan down and up buttons to move through the shows its instant.

Must be 100, like I said Star Trek has 87. God help me if I ever have more than 10 recorded shows from one series. Just tested the Netflix instant queue and it was pretty instant. my human brain says less than .25 seconds when scrolling. Now I did reboot the unit and tired it and it took Netflix 8 seconds to load its app, but the scrolling remained unchanged. I'm not going to test the HD side though ... agree it is pokey.

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Bruce

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 39 minutes ago · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

How things have changed

I was reading this article

Cable TV ‘cord-cutters’ became the majority in 2022

The steady decline of cable and broadcast television, and the rise of streaming services, reached a sort of inflection point over the past year. Last summer, for the first time, streaming ser…

thehill.com

That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.

Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.

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b4pjoe

May 19, 2026

There are contracts on streaming services. If you want a cheaper price you have to sign up for a year and pay the full amount. If you want to cancel you can but you don't get any money back. They don't cancel it until that yearly subscription ends. So if you don't want a contract you have to pay the higher monthly fee. But at least now you have a choice which way to go.

Jimbo

May 19, 2026

b4pjoe said:
There are contracts on streaming services. If you want a cheaper price you have to sign up for a year and pay the full amount. If you want to cancel you can but you don't get any money back. They don't cancel it until that yearly subscription ends. So if you don't want a contract you have to pay the higher monthly fee. But at least now you have a choice which way to go.

I wish all Streaming services offered Yearly deals.

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b4pjoe

May 19, 2026

Jimbo said:
I wish all Streaming services offered Yearly deals.

Yeah if you know you are going to be there for that long you can definitely save some money. Disney+ and Hulu both have yearly deals but not if you bundle them. You have to just go monthly when you bundle them.

Jimbo

May 20, 2026

b4pjoe said:
Yeah if you know you are going to be there for that long you can definitely save some money. Disney+ and Hulu both have yearly deals but not if you bundle them. You have to just go monthly when you bundle them.

I have 2 that I know I'll do for sure year round, thats Netflix and Paramount Plus ...
The others I use fron time to time, although Hulu I find myself using this past year (I have it in a Bundle with ESPN and Disney) Surprisingly, I find ESPN almost useless.

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Bruce

Jun 4, 2026

Comcast Corporation, one of the largest telecommunications and media conglomerates in the United States, has shed more than 13 million pay-TV subscribers since reaching its zenith in the late 2000s. The company's video subscriber base, which includes traditional cable television services, stood at approximately 24.2 million customers toward the end of 2008. By the close of the first quarter of 2026, that figure had plummeted to roughly10.95 million, representing a loss of about 13.25 million subscribers, or more than half of its historical peak.

Comcast Has Lost Over 13 Million TV Subscribers Since It Peaked Back in 2008 - A Look Back At This Historic Fall That Saw It Lose More Than Half of Its TV Subscribers | Cord Cutters News

cordcuttersnews.com

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dishdude

Jun 4, 2026

Bruce said:
Comcast Corporation, one of the largest telecommunications and media conglomerates in the United States, has shed more than 13 million pay-TV subscribers since reaching its zenith in the late 2000s. The company's video subscriber base, which includes traditional cable television services, stood at approximately 24.2 million customers toward the end of 2008. By the close of the first quarter of 2026, that figure had plummeted to roughly10.95 million, representing a loss of about 13.25 million subscribers, or more than half of its historical peak.

Comcast Has Lost Over 13 Million TV Subscribers Since It Peaked Back in 2008 - A Look Back At This Historic Fall That Saw It Lose More Than Half of Its TV Subscribers | Cord Cutters News

Comcast Corporation, one of the largest telecommunications and media conglomerates in the United States, has shed more than 13 million pay-TV subscribers since reaching its zenith in the late 2000s. The company’s video subscriber base, which includes traditional cable television services, stood...

cordcuttersnews.com

Couldn't happen to a nicer company!

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Bruce

Sunday at 10:17 AM

The average monthly cost of cable television in the United States has climbed to $147, marking a significant increase that reflects broader trends in media consumption and rising operational expenses for providers. This figure represents the baseline expense for standard television packages across major cable operators, excluding additional fees for premium channels, equipment rentals, or taxes that often push household bills even higher.

This is without Broadband services ( bundled), also, paying a lot more for a lot less new scripted content and now….sports.

The Cost of Cable TV Has Jumped Almost 55% Over the Last 10 Years | Cord Cutters News

The average monthly cost of cable television in the United States has climbed to $147, marking a significant increase that reflects broader trends in media consumption and rising operational expenses for providers. This figure represents the baseline expense for standard television packages...

cordcuttersnews.com

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telstar_1

39 minutes ago

Anyone know how Canadians are doing with cord cutting? I would think there could be added incentive simply in that Canadian cable/sat has been heavily regulated to exclude much of US content in order to promote home content. Streaming would seem to cut through any of that, presuming there aren't restrictions on that as well. Or maybe US streamers won't sell there?

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telstar_1

Pub Member / Supporter

Last reply 47 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

audio levels from channel to channel

Wasn't there a law passed a long time back mandating service providers level the sound from one ch. to the next? Or was that just for within any single given ch., and not letting commercials be boosted? Regardless it's a pain on DiSH with some ch's way louder than others, and having to jockey the sound up & down. Is there some fix? Can some TVs compensate for this?

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tsunami2311

Nov 12, 2025

depend on how you tv and box is setup? as both have "audio" leveling

for me if I have audio leveling on hopper enabled DD is lower then Stereo if i turn off on h3 turn on tv it the reverse. Almost ALL streaming channels much lower volume level then statalite channels.

Either way one my pet peaves is that even channel seem to have it own "audio level" and so to commericals and none of the actual audio leveling functions actual fix this and never have. would be nice if every channel dish/dtv/fios etc all made volume level defualt to same dB so atlest all channel where consistent volume probably wont help commercials though.

To my knowledge no TV has ever had audio leveling function that actual fixed that all it really does it either lower or raise the volume

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Former member 208119

Nov 12, 2025

tsunami2311 said:
depend on how you tv and box is setup? as both have "audio" leveling

for me if I have audio leveling on hopper enabled DD is lower then Stereo if i turn off on h3 turn on tv it the reverse. Almost ALL streaming channels much lower volume level then statalite channels.

Either way one my pet peaves is that even channel seem to have it own "audio level" and so to commericals and none of the actual audio leveling functions actual fix this and never have. would be nice if every channel dish/dtv/fios etc all made volume level defualt to same dB so atlest all channel where consistent volume probably wont help commercials though.

To my knowledge no TV has ever had audio leveling function that actual fixed that all it really does it either lower or raise the volume

maybe he should post his gear so we could look into it

.. t.v. soundbars AVR whatever he's running.. our home theater has volume leveling but so does our soundbar in the bedroom

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tsunami2311

Nov 13, 2025

John2021 said:
maybe he should post his gear so we could look into it .. t.v. soundbars AVR whatever he's running.. our home theater has volume leveling but so does our soundbar in the bedroom

Most stuff has all this volume leveling, almost all them dont work the way should or advertised as. maybe "ai" versions of volume level will work closer to way we would like to which make all channels and inputs same defualt sound level, including commercials

There is reason my entire mp3/audio music collection on my pc was changed to have same defualt "dB" for all files via something like MP3Gain so there all same defualt volume level and there for I never have to play around with my volume. I know Winamp could change dB defualts but never worked as good as just manual changing all the audio/mp3/music collection files to just be all the same

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telstar_1

Nov 13, 2025

But doesn't music require a lot of dynamic range? At least classical & the like? So there has to be allowance for some highs without attenuation, and some lows without boosting. It seems there needs to be some kind of a universal median level that all sources can register to, that still allows for both soft and loud intermittently. My dad always had westerns on and the gunshots really rang out

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Strega

Nov 14, 2025

That's a fundamental issue with volume levels - it's not just that people want some "level" but that the material itself can demand (or at least so says the creator) a wide dynamic range or a smaller one. ie: do you boost the typical conversations upward and use most of your range just for voices? Or do you leave room for the explosions and jet engines. Creators and viewer/listeners all vary in their priorities, and most volume-leveling products are trying to do things in real time so they have very little context to work with. Even when using a tool that reads a whole file and displays a peak volume, you can wonder how often such a volume occurs and then you can disagree on how important it is for something like an explosion to have any clipping/distortion.

I think the OP refers to the Commercial Advertisement Loudness Mitigation Act, AKA the CALM act. But as the name suggests, I think it only has to do with commercials and not different sources.

By the way, if you watch westerns with realistic gunshot sound levels, I recommend hearing protection.

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tsunami2311

Nov 16, 2025

I will say this on PC it worse one game is one volume level by defualt another is super quiet and another deafening loud, and volume leveling dont equalize it. The dynamic range isnt the problem the defualt volume is not same from channel to channel, commercial to commercial game to game.

To mean volume leveling is defeat volume level from source to source channel to channel, commercial to commercial, game to game.

Default volume level of 89.9 dB across the board fixes that tv providers can easily do this from there end and mandate commercial creators follow it, but it wont ever happen

Maybe volume leveling means somthing else to other people

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telstar_1

47 minutes ago

This only if anything seems to be worsening on DiSH. Ch. 215 is a prime example. It's typically much louder than other ch's, and today I notice it even contradicting itself, shifting drastically up and down inexplicably over periods of several minutes. Oddly, the quietest periods have come during commercials...

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply 47 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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sdfntx

Today at 9:50 AM

Right on Time - Brandi Carlile

gms49ers

Today at 11:00 AM

Time Stand Still - Rush

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Bobby

Today at 11:08 AM

I Can't Help It (If I'm Still In Love With You) - B.J. Thomas

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long_time_DNC

Today at 3:37 PM

Help Is On Its Way - Little River Band

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47 minutes ago

Little Band of Gold - Sonny James

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Bobby

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 58 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish 4K Event Listings (No Discussion)

This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.

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Bobby

Tuesday at 5:27 PM

WC, Canada vs Bosnia and Herzegovina, Friday 6-12, 12PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, USA vs Paraguay, Friday 6-12, 6PM PDT, Channel 540-01.

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Bobby

Tuesday at 5:34 PM

WC, Qatar vs Switzerland, Saturday 6-13, 12PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Brazil vs Morocco, Saturday 6-13, 3PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Haiti vs Scotland, Saturday 6-13, 6PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Australia vs Türkiye, Saturday 6-13, 9PM PDT, Channel 540-02

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Bobby

Tuesday at 5:42 PM

WC, Germany vs Curaçao, Sunday 6-14, 10AM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Netherlands vs Japan, Sunday 6-14, 1PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Côte d'Ivoire vs Equador, Sunday 6-14, 4PM PDT, Channel 540-02.
WC, Sweden vs Tunisia, Sunday 6-14, 7PM PDT, Channel 540-02.

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Bobby

Today at 5:42 PM

WC, Belgium vs Egypt, Monday 6-15, 12PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Saudi Arabia vs Uruguay, Monday 6-15, 3PM PDT, Channel 540-02.
WC, Iran vs New Zealand, Monday 6-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 540-02.

Bobby

58 minutes ago

WC, France vs Senegal, Tuesday 6-16, 12PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Iraq vs Norway, Tuesday 6-16, 3PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Argentina vs Algeria, Tuesday 6-16, 6PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Austria vs Jordan, Tuesda6 6-16, 9PM PDT, Channel 540-02.

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Gary Toma

Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 5:32 PM · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum

DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 6/10/2026

The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:

National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)

Additional tabs provide:

OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders

Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D9S, D16
@103W.... D10, D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8

DIRECTV_TPN_Map_260610.xlsx 1,869 KB

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KyL416

Yesterday at 7:31 AM

604 Pursuit HD is testing

Women's US Open Out, Men's US Open and World Cup in

The World Cup Bracket on 205-6 and 407-2 will be repurposing CINEHD 154
(There will be a mix on one of the 205s and 407-1)

The Vegas specific slate for KTNV is repurposing Dispute Slide 1 Test 9109

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lordodogg

Yesterday at 7:46 AM

KyL416 said:
604 Pursuit HD is testing

Interesting. I remember that being HD-only for a bit a long time ago and then it was back to SD-only.

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lordodogg

Yesterday at 8:20 AM

lordodogg said:
Interesting. I remember that being HD-only for a bit a long time ago and then it was back to SD-only.

looking at the old maps, that was from March 2017 to June 2019.

lordodogg

Today at 4:58 PM

Starz is apparently dropping all of the west coast feeds of their networks tomorrow. FiOS has already dropped most of the ones they carried and I imagine DirecTV would be affected with STZw on 526 and SENw on 536.

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lordodogg

Today at 5:02 PM

seems to actually only be affecting their sister channels, not the main channels

KyL416

Today at 5:32 PM

Starz, Starz Encore and Starz Encore Westerns are keeping their west coast feeds. The rest of the Starz, Starz Encore and Plex channels will only have East coast feeds

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zippyfrog

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 5:29 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Price Increase on Owned Equipment?

Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.

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telstar_1

Today at 1:28 PM

Does cable charge box rent?

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RJT79

Today at 4:47 PM

telstar_1 said:
Does cable charge box rent?

The cable company I was with years ago did charge $9.99 for a receiver.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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RJT79

Today at 5:03 PM

zippyfrog said:
Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.

I went to try to add the Heartland channel as dummy to see what it would do for me as I own my receiver and have DISH Outdoors and this is what mine shows. (Note however I had to take the 2nd receiver I told you I added the other day off because I was told you can only have 1 receiver when you have a one outlet on the Dish Playmaker and was having issues with the 2nd receiver and I didn't know that and that was done yesterday as well so I am back to one receiver.)

Let's upgrade your package.

Your monthly bill will increase by $6.00 per month.

Breakdown

June 11, 2026 - July 11, 2026
You are changing your programming in the middle of the bill cycle. The bill shown below is your bill for next month including prorations and credits. Your following bill will return to the fixed rate. This bill will take effect from now until July 11, 2026.
Monthly Services
$86.99
Flex Pack
$72.99
Local Channels
$14.00
Add-Ons
$68.98
National Action Pack
$12.00
Regional Action Pack
$12.00
News Pack
$10.00
Paramount+ with Showtime
$10.00
Drama and Classics Pack
$6.00
Heartland Pack
$6.00
Starz Encore Movies
$6.00
On DISH Magazine
$4.99
Starz 2 Mo ($11)
$1.99
Prorated Charges
$7.93
Heartland Pack Jun 11 - Jul 20
$7.93
Order Total
$7.93
Prorated Total
$7.93
Due Today
$7.93

Transition Bill Total
$156.10
Proposed Changes
Your monthly bill will increase by $6.00 per month
Monthly Services
$86.99
Add-Ons
$68.98
FCC Regulatory Surcharge
$0.13
Taxes & Surcharges
$0.00

Monthly Total
$156.10
Prorated Total
$7.93
Order Total
$7.93

Due Today
$7.93

Sounds like an issue with DISH Billing

RJ T.
From Illinois

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zippyfrog

Today at 5:19 PM

I asked again, and the rep I talked to said it is a glitch and that "Access for TV" shouldn't be there - the rep pulled up my future month bills and that charge isn't on it. So I am not going to worry about it right now, but it will be interesting to see when the price changes happen later this year. Will this line item show up? The fact that it is a specific item that is different from anything makes me think it is more than a glitch. But we shall see.

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RJT79

Today at 5:29 PM

zippyfrog said:
I asked again, and the rep I talked to said it is a glitch and that "Access for TV" shouldn't be there - the rep pulled up my future month bills and that charge isn't on it. So I am not going to worry about it right now, but it will be interesting to see when the price changes happen later this year. Will this line item show up? The fact that it is a specific item that is different from anything makes me think it is more than a glitch. But we shall see.

I am hoping they don't add this down the road. Things are expensive the way it is now. Even DIRECTV allows the first receiver free. This would go against DISH and DISH is already loosing subscribers I wouldn't think they would do these kind of tricks but you never know. Always look at your bills for unknow charges. I heard horror stories of people getting charged for things they didn't know were there.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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zippyfrog

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Today at 5:26 PM · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone

Purchasing New iPhone

I feel like this was discussed in another thread, but I can't find it. I have T-Mobile and my last iPhone upgrade was in 2020. I want to get a new iPhone, but what is the best way to go about doing it? Should I order the iPhone from T-Mobile directly, or should I buy from the Apple Store? I feel like there are pros/cons to each option.

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teachtom

Last reply Today at 5:17 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Problem when I switch from Bonus View channels back to regular Dish channels

Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks

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HipKat

Today at 5:07 PM

teachtom said:
Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks

First off, great TV. I'm torn between the 77C5 or the 77G5.
It sounds like the handshake between the Receiver and the TV is having a problem. Are you using the free cable that came with the Joey or a higher speed HDMI cable?? That's the f irst place I'd look

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RJT79

Today at 5:17 PM

teachtom said:
Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks

First off, The analog to digital switch, also known as the digital television transition, is the process of converting older analog television broadcasting technology to digital broadcasting. It's used through coaxial cable for the an antenna during the mandatory switch from Analog to Digital on June 12, 2009. You either had to get a converter for your analog (Tube TV) or use a converter box that has the analog or digital tuner or an HDTV which your is and has the tuner built in. Your TV is HD and using an HDMI Cable and nothing is connected by coaxial cable so this wouldn't apply.

In my theory it probably means a new TV. I had a TV go out on my switching between the Smart Screen from the HDMI inputs before because they went faulty. Sometimes electrical surges can cause this. If you have an older home or rent an older home or apartment sometimes the electrical outlets are not grounded and these days HDTV's need a ground which can cause them to malfunction and go bad quicker. Never plug it directly in an outlet. It will damage the TV.

Hope I could be of some assistance.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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Today at 5:02 PM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

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Yespage

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Today at 4:23 PM · posted in The Sports Section

FIFA World Cup of Horrors

Mexico takes on South Africa to open the World Cup Final (it is called the Final... this just isn't the World Cup Final... Final). The tournament has been plagued with rife malfeasance as FIFA has been committing all sorts of fraud with the ticket sales. Hotel rooms have gone unfilled as the prices to attend a game and stay somewhere are through the roof. I swear this is impacting Mansfield, OH hotel rates which are higher than average for the Indycar race. And there is a broadening VAR presence which will ruin things as nothing worse now when scoring a goal and knowing you can't quite celebrate yet as they check to see if a player was offside by a pixel a half-hour ago.

The Group Stage used to mean something, but now 32 of the 48... yeah, 48 teams are going to the Knockout Round. Getting into the Knockout Round used to be a big deal, even for the US. But now... if you don't lose all of your group stage games, you get to move on. Oi! And this is avoiding all the political stuff!

I have never been so unexcited for a World Cup before. Every game used to matter. But FIFA be darned if they don't try to squeeze out every dime they can out of the players, refs, and fans.