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Last reply Mar 30, 2005 · posted in Old YAHOOGROUPS - VOOM! Archives

[VOOM] VOOM equipment

I just posted this on the 4DTV (big dish) forum that I am a member
of. It was in answer to a C Bander and new VOOMer's question
regarding what will happen to the equipment. I welcome any comments
or thoughts, and certainly any dissenting opinions.

Pat,
I've been wondering some of the same things. It sounds like the end
this time but who knows. There could be a last minute buyout since
the number of subscribers mentioned in the Business week article
posted here is now 46,000 and not 26,000. I suspected a rapid
increase in VOOM'ers in the last few months as HDTV's were
purchased. If the sky goes dark for VOOM and no deals or successors
emerge, it is likely to be a bit like Primestar. The equipment was
abandoned and they had far more subscribersw. It really cost alot
to come get all the used equipment compared to it's value.
The dish is really not good for conventional Ku, event the 24"
upgrade. It's just too small and mounting a normal Ku LNBF would
require some mods that cost $. The dish with a single dual LNB has
little use with current multi-satellite DTV and Dishnet systems
anyway. You could repoint it and pick up some FTA music with an
MPEG DVB receiver.
The receivers, in spite of early service issues, are really pretty
good for OTA and HD and they have the capability to add hardware and
software for newer technology as it emerges so they may have some
value at some point. The Primestar receivers became almost
completely useless after the demise of Primestar. Unless the VOOM
units have a commercial use, I doubt they will be reclaimed.
The OTA antenna is more trouble than it's worth to collect and I am
sure in the quantity they purchased them it is no more than a $15
investment.
So my opinion, especially for those who had installers come from
more than an hour away, is that the equipment will be your parting
gift, for what it is worth.
I hope they at least have an announced window where they open these
receivers up for OTA digital via a software download and permanent
OTA
"authoriztion". Given our suuport for VOOM, it's the least they can
do for all the trails and tribulations.....
Bruce

One other comment, I have a few 4DTV receivers for any of you who
might be interested in reactivating your big dish and getting HDTV
that way. I am amongst a few who are trying to keep C Band as a
viable satellite alternative to DTV and DISH. It's not the cheapest
way to get HDTV if you don't have a BUD but if you do it's not too
costly really. I'm most likely going back to C Band if I can't get
VOOM. I currently get all the Premium Movie channels on 4dTV now so
it's not any more difficult for me than NPS authorization and paying
for the subscription. I can't recommend this route for anyone who
is not capable of fixing the system themselves.

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thegrod

Mar 1, 2005

I believe VOOM is the only provider of Rave.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stan Sexton" <stanathomesell@cox.net>
To: <VOOM@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: [VOOM] VOOM equipment

>
> There are many of us VOOMERS that paid $800 and I guess we own the
> equipment.
> I know I would like to see if I can at least use the existing dish and LNB
> for FTA satellite, if not Dish or Direct TV HD.
> VOOM is my first satellite experience.
> I also have a LG-3510a, so I can tune OTA HD and
> "steal" OTA HD Cable channels.
> What I will miss on VOOM are the movie channels as some of those films are
> not available on DVD.
> My teenage son will miss RAVE, and I don't know if any other sat provider
> has RAVE.
> I believe that VOOM subscribers must be closer to 46,000.
> One reason VOOM lost money is that load of advertising and the other is
> the OTA antenna part, which turned off many subscribers to the SAT part of
> VOOM.
> I hope someone picks up VOOM's subscriber base. It would not be hard to
> duplicate the HD portion of VOOM and retransmit it for $40 a month.
> I have always taken cable with VOOM so I would be willing to pay for only
> the HD channels.
> I think we need just an HD service. Let cable provide the SD and locals.
> VOOM should have never tried to be everything for everybody. If
> subscribers wanted the networks in HD, maybe VOOM could have provided the
> national feeds instead of locals. Local stations do very little
> origination in HD besides the local news anyway. No great loss.
> So does anyone know who carries RAVE besides VOOM?
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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thegrod

Mar 1, 2005

Steve,
I understand what you are saying but I was not referring to the high powered
DBS sats. I was referring to conventional Ku band and for the time and
effort to utilize an18" dBS dish I believe one would be better served to
find an old Primestar or buy at least a 30" dish to get reasonable results.
For example SBS6 would not come in satisfactorilly with an 18" DBS dish and
if I put up a dish for Ku Band SBS6 would be my prime target.
Since we have the ability to help people with 4DTV if they would be willing
to consider this I'd rather make sure they understand how limited that 18"
dish really is going to be in the future.
Thegrod
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Brightman" <amigasteve@sbcglobal.net>
To: <VOOM@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: [VOOM] VOOM equipment

The only comment I'll make is that I disagree about using the dish for
regular Ku. Although I prefer Primestars I have an assortment of other
dishes down to 18in in size that are great for FTA on the Dish birds,
Nimiq and Anik. For linear use I regard the hardware bashing needed as
trivial to mount a linear lnbf on there.

Steve Brightman
Dallas, Texas
MSN: steveweb@sbcglobal.net
AIM: ElLotus
Skype: amigasteve

On Mar 1, 2005, at 9:12 AM, bgrodie wrote:

>
> I just posted this on the 4DTV (big dish) forum that I am a member
> of. It was in answer to a C Bander and new VOOMer's question
> regarding what will happen to the equipment. I welcome any comments
> or thoughts, and certainly any dissenting opinions.
>
> Pat,
> I've been wondering some of the same things. It sounds like the end
> this time but who knows. There could be a last minute buyout since
> the number of subscribers mentioned in the Business week article
> posted here is now 46,000 and not 26,000. I suspected a rapid
> increase in VOOM'ers in the last few months as HDTV's were
> purchased. If the sky goes dark for VOOM and no deals or successors
> emerge, it is likely to be a bit like Primestar. The equipment was
> abandoned and they had far more subscribersw. It really cost alot
> to come get all the used equipment compared to it's value.
> The dish is really not good for conventional Ku, event the 24"
> upgrade. It's just too small and mounting a normal Ku LNBF would
> require some mods that cost $. The dish with a single dual LNB has
> little use with current multi-satellite DTV and Dishnet systems
> anyway. You could repoint it and pick up some FTA music with an
> MPEG DVB receiver.
> The receivers, in spite of early service issues, are really pretty
> good for OTA and HD and they have the capability to add hardware and
> software for newer technology as it emerges so they may have some
> value at some point. The Primestar receivers became almost
> completely useless after the demise of Primestar. Unless the VOOM
> units have a commercial use, I doubt they will be reclaimed.
> The OTA antenna is more trouble than it's worth to collect and I am
> sure in the quantity they purchased them it is no more than a $15
> investment.
> So my opinion, especially for those who had installers come from
> more than an hour away, is that the equipment will be your parting
> gift, for what it is worth.
> I hope they at least have an announced window where they open these
> receivers up for OTA digital via a software download and permanent
> OTA
> "authoriztion". Given our suuport for VOOM, it's the least they can
> do for all the trails and tribulations.....
> Bruce
>
> One other comment, I have a few 4DTV receivers for any of you who
> might be interested in reactivating your big dish and getting HDTV
> that way. I am amongst a few who are trying to keep C Band as a
> viable satellite alternative to DTV and DISH. It's not the cheapest
> way to get HDTV if you don't have a BUD but if you do it's not too
> costly really. I'm most likely going back to C Band if I can't get
> VOOM. I currently get all the Premium Movie channels on 4dTV now so
> it's not any more difficult for me than NPS authorization and paying
> for the subscription. I can't recommend this route for anyone who
> is not capable of fixing the system themselves.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
>
> ADVERTISEMENT
> <22305_0205_016_b_300250_a.gif>
> <l.gif>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> . To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VOOM/
>
> . To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> VOOM-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> . Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service.
>
>

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Steve Brightman

Mar 1, 2005

I suspect most FTA reception on Ku is T5 and the Voom dish would be
adequate for that. You're right SBS6 (you must be a newshound!) could
stand a better dish.

Like you I prefer Primestars, but I guess my real message is not to
throw away anything that may come in useful someday! (One example, I'm
now using an old DirecTV oval dish to pull in both - or should I say
all three - Nimiqs).

Certainly for use with the trusty 4DTV I'd recommend a 30 inch (or
bigger).

Steve Brightman
Dallas, Texas
MSN: steveweb@sbcglobal.net
AIM: ElLotus
Skype: amigasteve

On Mar 1, 2005, at 10:33 AM, thegrod wrote:

> Steve,
> I understand what you are saying but I was not referring to the high
> powered
> DBS sats. I was referring to conventional Ku band and for the time
> and
> effort to utilize an18" dBS dish I believe one would be better served
> to
> find an old Primestar or buy at least a 30" dish to get reasonable
> results.
> For example SBS6 would not come in satisfactorilly with an 18" DBS
> dish and
> if I put up a dish for Ku Band SBS6 would be my prime target.
> Since we have the ability to help people with 4DTV if they would be
> willing
> to consider this I'd rather make sure they understand how limited
> that 18"
> dish really is going to be in the future.
> Thegrod
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Brightman" <amigasteve@sbcglobal.net>
> To: <VOOM@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 7:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [VOOM] VOOM equipment
>
>
>
> The only comment I'll make is that I disagree about using the dish for
> regular Ku. Although I prefer Primestars I have an assortment of other
> dishes down to 18in in size that are great for FTA on the Dish birds,
> Nimiq and Anik. For linear use I regard the hardware bashing needed as
> trivial to mount a linear lnbf on there.
>
> Steve Brightman
> Dallas, Texas
> MSN: steveweb@sbcglobal.net
> AIM: ElLotus
> Skype: amigasteve
>
>
> On Mar 1, 2005, at 9:12 AM, bgrodie wrote:
>
> >
> > I just posted this on the 4DTV (big dish) forum that I am a member
> > of. It was in answer to a C Bander and new VOOMer's question
> > regarding what will happen to the equipment. I welcome any comments
> > or thoughts, and certainly any dissenting opinions.
> >
> > Pat,
> > I've been wondering some of the same things. It sounds like the end
> > this time but who knows. There could be a last minute buyout since
> > the number of subscribers mentioned in the Business week article
> > posted here is now 46,000 and not 26,000. I suspected a rapid
> > increase in VOOM'ers in the last few months as HDTV's were
> > purchased. If the sky goes dark for VOOM and no deals or successors
> > emerge, it is likely to be a bit like Primestar. The equipment was
> > abandoned and they had far more subscribersw. It really cost alot
> > to come get all the used equipment compared to it's value.
> > The dish is really not good for conventional Ku, event the 24"
> > upgrade. It's just too small and mounting a normal Ku LNBF would
> > require some mods that cost $. The dish with a single dual LNB has
> > little use with current multi-satellite DTV and Dishnet systems
> > anyway. You could repoint it and pick up some FTA music with an
> > MPEG DVB receiver.
> > The receivers, in spite of early service issues, are really pretty
> > good for OTA and HD and they have the capability to add hardware
> and
> > software for newer technology as it emerges so they may have some
> > value at some point. The Primestar receivers became almost
> > completely useless after the demise of Primestar. Unless the VOOM
> > units have a commercial use, I doubt they will be reclaimed.
> > The OTA antenna is more trouble than it's worth to collect and I am
> > sure in the quantity they purchased them it is no more than a $15
> > investment.
> > So my opinion, especially for those who had installers come from
> > more than an hour away, is that the equipment will be your parting
> > gift, for what it is worth.
> > I hope they at least have an announced window where they open these
> > receivers up for OTA digital via a software download and permanent
> > OTA
> > "authoriztion". Given our suuport for VOOM, it's the least they can
> > do for all the trails and tribulations.....
> > Bruce
> >
> > One other comment, I have a few 4DTV receivers for any of you who
> > might be interested in reactivating your big dish and getting HDTV
> > that way. I am amongst a few who are trying to keep C Band as a
> > viable satellite alternative to DTV and DISH. It's not the cheapest
> > way to get HDTV if you don't have a BUD but if you do it's not too
> > costly really. I'm most likely going back to C Band if I can't get
> > VOOM. I currently get all the Premium Movie channels on 4dTV now so
> > it's not any more difficult for me than NPS authorization and
> paying
> > for the subscription. I can't recommend this route for anyone who
> > is not capable of fixing the system themselves.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
> >
> > ADVERTISEMENT
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> > <l.gif>
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> > . To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VOOM/
> >
> > . To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > VOOM-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > . Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> > Service.
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
>
> ADVERTISEMENT
> <22305_0205_016_b_300250_a.gif>
> <l.gif>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> • To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VOOM/
>
> • To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> VOOM-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> • Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service.
>
>

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thegrod

Mar 1, 2005

Sports feeds! I'm hoping to motorize the Primestar this spring with an
SG107.
Nimiq? Email me, I'd like to find out more about the P*..
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Brightman" <amigasteve@sbcglobal.net>
To: <VOOM@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [VOOM] VOOM equipment

I suspect most FTA reception on Ku is T5 and the Voom dish would be
adequate for that. You're right SBS6 (you must be a newshound!) could
stand a better dish.

Like you I prefer Primestars, but I guess my real message is not to
throw away anything that may come in useful someday! (One example, I'm
now using an old DirecTV oval dish to pull in both - or should I say
all three - Nimiqs).

Certainly for use with the trusty 4DTV I'd recommend a 30 inch (or
bigger).

Steve Brightman
Dallas, Texas
MSN: steveweb@sbcglobal.net
AIM: ElLotus
Skype: amigasteve

On Mar 1, 2005, at 10:33 AM, thegrod wrote:

> Steve,
> I understand what you are saying but I was not referring to the high
> powered
> DBS sats. I was referring to conventional Ku band and for the time
> and
> effort to utilize an18" dBS dish I believe one would be better served
> to
> find an old Primestar or buy at least a 30" dish to get reasonable
> results.
> For example SBS6 would not come in satisfactorilly with an 18" DBS
> dish and
> if I put up a dish for Ku Band SBS6 would be my prime target.
> Since we have the ability to help people with 4DTV if they would be
> willing
> to consider this I'd rather make sure they understand how limited
> that 18"
> dish really is going to be in the future.
> Thegrod
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Brightman" <amigasteve@sbcglobal.net>
> To: <VOOM@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 7:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [VOOM] VOOM equipment
>
>
>
> The only comment I'll make is that I disagree about using the dish for
> regular Ku. Although I prefer Primestars I have an assortment of other
> dishes down to 18in in size that are great for FTA on the Dish birds,
> Nimiq and Anik. For linear use I regard the hardware bashing needed as
> trivial to mount a linear lnbf on there.
>
> Steve Brightman
> Dallas, Texas
> MSN: steveweb@sbcglobal.net
> AIM: ElLotus
> Skype: amigasteve
>
>
> On Mar 1, 2005, at 9:12 AM, bgrodie wrote:
>
> >
> > I just posted this on the 4DTV (big dish) forum that I am a member
> > of. It was in answer to a C Bander and new VOOMer's question
> > regarding what will happen to the equipment. I welcome any comments
> > or thoughts, and certainly any dissenting opinions.
> >
> > Pat,
> > I've been wondering some of the same things. It sounds like the end
> > this time but who knows. There could be a last minute buyout since
> > the number of subscribers mentioned in the Business week article
> > posted here is now 46,000 and not 26,000. I suspected a rapid
> > increase in VOOM'ers in the last few months as HDTV's were
> > purchased. If the sky goes dark for VOOM and no deals or successors
> > emerge, it is likely to be a bit like Primestar. The equipment was
> > abandoned and they had far more subscribersw. It really cost alot
> > to come get all the used equipment compared to it's value.
> > The dish is really not good for conventional Ku, event the 24"
> > upgrade. It's just too small and mounting a normal Ku LNBF would
> > require some mods that cost $. The dish with a single dual LNB has
> > little use with current multi-satellite DTV and Dishnet systems
> > anyway. You could repoint it and pick up some FTA music with an
> > MPEG DVB receiver.
> > The receivers, in spite of early service issues, are really pretty
> > good for OTA and HD and they have the capability to add hardware
> and
> > software for newer technology as it emerges so they may have some
> > value at some point. The Primestar receivers became almost
> > completely useless after the demise of Primestar. Unless the VOOM
> > units have a commercial use, I doubt they will be reclaimed.
> > The OTA antenna is more trouble than it's worth to collect and I am
> > sure in the quantity they purchased them it is no more than a $15
> > investment.
> > So my opinion, especially for those who had installers come from
> > more than an hour away, is that the equipment will be your parting
> > gift, for what it is worth.
> > I hope they at least have an announced window where they open these
> > receivers up for OTA digital via a software download and permanent
> > OTA
> > "authoriztion". Given our suuport for VOOM, it's the least they can
> > do for all the trails and tribulations.....
> > Bruce
> >
> > One other comment, I have a few 4DTV receivers for any of you who
> > might be interested in reactivating your big dish and getting HDTV
> > that way. I am amongst a few who are trying to keep C Band as a
> > viable satellite alternative to DTV and DISH. It's not the cheapest
> > way to get HDTV if you don't have a BUD but if you do it's not too
> > costly really. I'm most likely going back to C Band if I can't get
> > VOOM. I currently get all the Premium Movie channels on 4dTV now so
> > it's not any more difficult for me than NPS authorization and
> paying
> > for the subscription. I can't recommend this route for anyone who
> > is not capable of fixing the system themselves.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
> >
> > ADVERTISEMENT
> > <22305_0205_016_b_300250_a.gif>
> > <l.gif>
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> > . To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VOOM/
> >
> > . To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > VOOM-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > . Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> > Service.
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
>
> ADVERTISEMENT
> <22305_0205_016_b_300250_a.gif>
> <l.gif>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> . To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VOOM/
>
> . To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> VOOM-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
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Sean Mota

Mar 30, 2005

[VOOM] FCC Docket 05-72: Public Comments Against Sale/Transfer of VOOM Licenses

Posted at http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthr...00&page=1&pp=15 by
riffjim4069:

Now is the time to file your Public Comments against the pending
sale/transfer of Licenses and Authorizations held by Rainbow DBS Company LLC
to EchoStar Satellite LLC. Public Comments are due by 28 March 2005, can be
filed online and need not be fancy...mine took all of 5 minutes.

Just follow this link http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi and
place 05-72 (the docket#) in block 1 Proceeding. In my case, I simply stated
my desire to continue receiving VOOM programming, VOOM's commitment & track
record of providing HDTV, and VOOM HD LLC's desire to continue operating
Rainbow-1 at the 61.5 frequencies. I also reminded the FCC of their past
rulings that side on increased competition and consumer choices; this is
clearly in the best interest of the public.

Anyway, my confirmation number is '2005324245728' and, once again, the
entire process took less than 5 minutes. If you're happy with VOOM, now is
the time for action. Let's keep Rainbow-1 right where it belongs! Just
think, this time next year Rainbow-1 could be spot beaming HD locals to many
of the top markets.

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zippyfrog

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Last reply 37 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

110/119 Listings Post 129 Transition (Updated 11/01/2026)

Over the past year I have been tracking the changes on Western Arc. The past 3 months have had a lot of changes that I posted in the other MPEG2 Western Arc shutdown thread. Now that 129 is (basically) out of commission, here is where Western Arc stands. This is just a national channel list, (no local channels) based off what I can see and what others have contributed. Thanks to everyone who has helped me come up with the locations of some of the channels – I would try and list all of you out, but I know I would forget someone! As has been suggested in other parts of the forum, it would be great to collect the spotbeam data for those who could contribute!

A couple of pieces of info:

Out of the 64 transponders between 110/119, there are currently 50 transponders that Dish is licensed to use. 22 are Spotbeams, 28 are ConUS transponders (14 transponders are licensed to DirecTV and Dish doesn't have access to them)
Those 28 ConUS transponders are divided as follows:
- 10 are dedicated to National HD channels (ESPN, CNN, Disney Channel, etc). Dish is maxing out at 16 HD channels per transponder (note – in an earlier post I said there was one transponder with 17 HD channels, that was an error on my part. When I double checked my listings, one channel changed transponders). Before the transition, there was a maximum of 14 HD channels per transponder.
- 1 transponder is dedicated to adult content
- 2 are a mixture HD PPV Movies/4k channels
- 3 are set aside for HD Sports channels that are only on for live games (NBA League Pass, the PAC 12 alternate channels, some PPV events, etc); 3 SD PPV Sports Channels are there as well.
- 7 are for SD and/or music channels. Dish is maxing out at 26 SD channels per transponder thus far on the SD transponders.
- 5 transponders on 110 I have no channels listed but Dish operates. (they are labeled as ConUS on my chart below) There are other things that could be on those transponders, like RV Distant Networks, internal testing channels, etc, that I can't see. They might be able to be used for additional content, but I am not sure exactly what is on those transponders.

There are two transponders that have lower than normal SD channels – 110, TP 21 and 119, TP 19. Previously those transponders contained the programming guides that get downloaded from the satellite when the receivers download EPG. I assume that is where the programming guides are still downloaded from, thus less channels there.

When I talk about number of channels on a transponder, all my numbers are unique channels – for example, channel 101 and 199 are the same channel mapped to two different numbers, but in terms of space, only takes up 1 channel worth of bandwidth on the transponder.

Finally, I have to give Dish a ton of credit. When it was 110/119/129, Dish had 82 transponders they were using – it took a lot to get it down to 50 transponders and figure out where all the pieces were going to go. What are the things they did to get there? Here are the things I saw:

During this migration from 129, Dish converted 7 ConUS transponders on 119 into Spotbeams – that is how they ended up fitting on all the HD locals that used to be on 129. (for those interested, TP 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13 are the ones that used to be ConUS on 119 that are now Spotbeam)
Removed almost all SD duplicate channels that are offered in HD
Converted remaining SD channels from MPEG2 to MPEG4
There are also 2 subtle things that changed from the HD channel perspective
- At the beginning of the transition, Dish decreased the number of PPV Movie channels – prior to this transition the PPV channels HD PPV movies were 502-522; now they are 502-517.
- At the beginning of April when MLB, NBA, and NHL regular seasons were all going on at the same time and this transition began, there were a ton of games "joined in progress" for the HD feeds. That wasn't common since the days before the full time HD RSN's. The reason for that was prior to the transition, Dish had 4 transponders set aside for HD Sports – 2 transponders was the bandwidth set aside from the HD RSN's before Dish dropped the RSN's, then 2 transponders were for alternate channels. Now we are down to 3 transponders for HD sports.

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zippyfrog

Tuesday at 5:11 PM

Dish has officially removed all the locals from 119 and they are all on 110 now. TP 02, 04, 06, 08, 10 were all functioning as Spotbeams as of last week, but now they are ConUS.

This means all 21 transponders that Dish has access to at 119 are now ConUS.

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dishrich

Tuesday at 9:34 PM

zippyfrog said:
Dish has officially removed all the locals from 119 and they are all on 110 now.

Might be a silly question, but does this mean ALL 29 TP's on 110 are positively spot beams now?

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zippyfrog

Yesterday at 5:20 AM

dishrich said:
Might be a silly question, but does this mean ALL 29 TP's on 110 are positively spot beams now?

Nope - TP 1-13 are still ConUS on 110. Which is crazy...there are so many different spotbeams on the new 110 satellite compared to the older 110 or 119. Now, someone can correct me if I am wrong on this - but aren't there two satellites at 110 right now? If so, it looks like TP 1-13 are coming from the old satellite at 110 and 14 onward are spotbeams on the new satellite.

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dishrich

Yesterday at 12:47 PM

zippyfrog said:
Now, someone can correct me if I am wrong on this - but aren't there two satellites at 110 right now?

Hopefully nelson61 can chime in on this one, because I'm not sure, either.
I guess the thing I'm really perplexed about, is if there are NO more locals - at least on spotbeams - on 119, then how DID they cram ALL the locals on 110 & NOT have ALL those x-ponders in SB mode by now?

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zippyfrog

Yesterday at 6:07 PM

dishrich said:
Hopefully nelson61 can chime in on this one, because I'm not sure, either.
I guess the thing I'm really perplexed about, is if there are NO more locals - at least on spotbeams - on 119, then how DID they cram ALL the locals on 110 & NOT have ALL those x-ponders in SB mode by now?

Here was a comment by nelson61 last year:

nelson61 said:
EchoStar 23 (Conus beam) will still be at 110W so there can be some Conus beam coverage from 110W depending on how many transponders they use for the spots.

In the same thread, he gave all the kml files for the spotbeams to put on Google Earth, and it looks like there are a lot more spotbeams per transponder available than the old satellite. My gut is that there is just a more technilogically advanced satellite, and can handle more channels.

I would love an analysis of how many channels could be fit on all the spots!

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dishrich

Yesterday at 8:36 PM

zippyfrog said:
My gut is that there is just a more technilogically advanced satellite, and can handle more channels.

My only trouble with that explanation, is the fact that they are wasting at least 1 TP (TP 10, to be precise) on a local market (part of the Chicago locals are on that TP) that could be used for more CONUS channels (namely more HD!)

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zippyfrog

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dishrich said:
My only trouble with that explanation, is the fact that they are wasting at least 1 TP (TP 10, to be precise) on a local market (part of the Chicago locals are on that TP) that could be used for more CONUS channels (namely more HD!)

I ran the Schedule S through ChatGPT to analyze the data quickly, and according to ChatGPT, the 16 transponders currently being used for SpotBeams on 110 is all that has been authorized by the FCC. So Dish might be using TP 01-13 for ConUS on 110 for the foreseeable future. If that is the case, Dish has a ton of space to bring in more HD channels nationally or use that bandwidth for something else.

I know my lists aren't perfect as I can't see all the test channels and behind the scenes channels, but for channels available to subscribers - there are no channels on 119 TP 01-08 and 10; and on 110, TP14 has only 4 channels. With Dish putting 16 HD channels per transponder right now, that is about 145+ slots for HD channels that are available if Dish does keep 110 as ConUS for TP 01-13.

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Today at 3:22 AM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

No AI? No Search! Google's Education Controversy #shorts

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!

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Today at 3:22 AM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

RTX Spark Laptops: $7,000 Disappointment?

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 2:37 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Mandolin Rain - Bruce Hornsby

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Purple Rain - Prince

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Smoke On The Water - Deep Purple

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Smoke Gets In Your Eyes -- The Platters

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Today at 2:37 AM

Roll Me Up And SMOKE Me When I Die-Willie Nelson

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ewindowman

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Last reply Today at 2:17 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th

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rvvaquero

Tuesday at 11:31 AM

If Musk did acquire DISH, he would just convert it to use his own satellites to deliver it. Might be easier than creating a new startup. Change my dish out to one which connects to Starlink? Who knows?

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Yesterday at 4:33 PM

Starlink Mobile: 14 MHz Deal, No Phone Plan Yet [2026]

SpaceX agreed to buy up to 14 MHz of 800 MHz spectrum for Starlink Mobile. No Musk phone plan, price or coverage map exists yet.

shattered.io

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Yesterday at 6:54 PM

AT&T, Rakuten tout integration with AST SpaceMobile for D2D

AT&T makes first call handoff to satellite with AST SpaceMobile and prepares for beta service, while Rakuten targets commercial launch in 'near future.'

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Today at 1:19 AM

SpaceX Selects Qualcomm to Accelerate Starlink Mobile’s Nationwide 5G Network

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Today at 2:17 AM

Why Boost Mobile isn't SpaceX's shortcut to an MVNO

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dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Yesterday at 10:15 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Color blind man sees full colors for first time at age 66

Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.

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Bobby

Yesterday at 10:10 PM

dishstaller said:
Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a2cgQidHQJI

That brought tears to my eyes.

dishstaller

Yesterday at 10:12 PM

Bobby said:
That brought tears to my eyes.

Really...REALLY hate to do this to you Bobby, but....

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Yesterday at 10:15 PM

Okay....if you think you can take it....this one brought tears to my eyes when I first saw it and did again just now.

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DialgaChampion

Last reply Yesterday at 9:29 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Two Hopper 3 DVRs Installation

Does someone still have the diagram showing how to connect two Hopper 3s again?

I currently have one H3 and one 4K Joey, set up through a 1000.2 eastern arc hybrid lnb and solo hub.

The plan is to replace the Joey with the second H3. Already purchased a duo hub and I have three coax cables coming in from outside, from back when I used to have the older 1000.4 dish and the hopper 2. I don't fully remember, but I think the other two coax cables are just tied up next to the dish outside; will have to check again.

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HipKat

Sep 5, 2022

You need a 42 switch.
Run the outputs to the inputs on the Duo Hub

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DialgaChampion

Sep 5, 2022

HipKat said:
You need a 42 switch.
Run the outputs to the inputs on the Duo Hub

Okay, so I made an updated diagram just to make sure I understand this right...

- 2 Coax connected from outside Dish LNB into 42 switch.
- 2 Coax from 42 switch into Duo Hub.
- 1 Coax from Duo Hub into 1st Hopper 3.
- 1 Coax from Duo Hub into Power Inserter.
- 1 Coax from Power Inserter into 2nd Hopper 3.
- Power Inserter plugged into wall electrical outlet.

Did I get that right? And also, I assume the power inserter is required?

HipKat

Sep 5, 2022

DialgaChampion said:
Okay, so I made an updated diagram just to make sure I understand this right...

- 2 Coax connected from outside Dish LNB into 42 switch.
- 2 Coax from 42 switch into Duo Hub.
- 1 Coax from Duo Hub into 1st Hopper 3.
- 1 Coax from Duo Hub into Power Inserter.
- 1 Coax from Power Inserter into 2nd Hopper 3.
- Power Inserter plugged into wall electrical outlet.

Did I get that right? And also, I assume the power inserter is required?

Twa Coaxes from the LNB if it's Eastern Arc (2 "Eyes") and three if it's Western Arc and yes, the power inserter, it's required

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LQQK

Sep 6, 2022

DialgaChampion said:
Does someone still have the diagram showing how to connect two Hopper 3s again?

I currently have one H3 and one 4K Joey, set up through a 1000.2 eastern arc hybrid lnb and solo hub.

The plan is to replace the Joey with the second H3. Already purchased a duo hub and I have three coax cables coming in from outside, from back when I used to have the older 1000.4 dish and the hopper 2. I don't fully remember, but I think the other two coax cables are just tied up next to the dish outside; will have to check again.

Are you going with 2 H3s for the PIP/Multi-View features or something else?

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DialgaChampion

Sep 6, 2022

LQQK said:
Are you going with 2 H3s for the PIP/Multi-View features or something else?

No, it's specifically to fix the problem with the 4K Joey's live feed intermittently freezing. I'll be watching a live program and then randomly out of nowhere, the picture and sound will just pixelate/freeze for 5-10 seconds, then go back to normal. Doesn't matter which channel it's on either. It's like what happens when the signal cuts out during heavy rain or a thunderstorm, but this will happen even on a perfectly clear day/night.

It doesn't happen with my H3 though, only with the Joey. I've replaced the solo hub and I've also replaced the Joey itself with another brand new 4K Joey, but it's still the same problem. And I know it's not the coax going from the hub into the Joey because I previously had another receiver connected in the same room before changing to the whole home dvr setup and that receiver worked fine.

So I'm basing this off process of elimination, which seems to indicate a problem with the 4K Joey device itself. Only thing I haven't tried is maybe getting a regular Joey 3, if that's still the latest model of Joey currently available, but otherwise the only other solution is getting a second Hopper 3. It'd be nice if the 42 and the Power Inserter weren't necessary and I could just use the Duo Hub though.

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DialgaChampion

Oct 28, 2026

HipKat said:
Twa Coaxes from the LNB if it's Eastern Arc (2 "Eyes") and three if it's Western Arc and yes, the power inserter, it's required

tjboston5676 said:
Yep just swap the lnb with a dpp lnb and connect the 42 switch.

Finally got around to trying to set everything up. Need some help because I've got an issue.

1st Hopper 3 works fine.

2nd Hopper 3 doesn't show any channels in my Top 200 package in the guide, even though it's set to All Subscribed. But it does see the 1st Hopper 3 and can access the recordings on it.

Here's my setup:

DPP EA 61.5/72 LNB on the dish. 2 Coaxes going from LNB into the DPH42 switch.
DPH42 "Receiver 1" port > Power Inserter "To Switch" port..... Power Inserter "To Receiver" port > Duo Hub "ODU 1" port.
DPH42 "Receiver 2" port > Duo Hub "ODU 2" port.
2 Coaxes from both Host ports on the Duo Hub into both Hopper 3s.

I've spent the last few hours troubleshooting, no success. I did the Test Installation on the Diagnostics screen. Red button. Held Power Button for 15 seconds.

Also tried several different configurations with the coax cables according to Google's AI suggestions. Tried connecting both a Solo Hub and a Duo Hub (I don't have 2 solo hubs at the moment), having each Hopper connected to each hub independently. Tried connecting Receiver 2 from the DPH42 directly into the 2nd Hopper 3. Tried having the Power Inserter connected both before and after the hub.

I even checked my account online. Both Hopper 3s are authorized and "Powered" on the account. Even tried "Wake Up Receivers". That second H3 still won't show my channels in the guide at all.

According to Google's AI, it thinks this is the problem:

- When you plug two Hopper 3 units into a single Duo Hub, the hub cannot allocate the correct satellite transponder frequencies to both boxes simultaneously.
- As a result, the first Hopper 3 hogs the satellite line, while the second Hopper 3 gets locked out of the satellite signal entirely—causing an empty guide and blocking live TV. The unlinked status on the whole-home screen occurs because the software recognizes the conflict and stops integration.

But none of its solutions have worked. Any ideas?

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n0qcu

Oct 28, 2026

Googles AI is wrong as according to what you wrote you have two completely separate satellite line from the switch

My be a dumb question but did you run the check switch option on th 2nd H3

Did you try swapping the H3 to see if the problem switches between the two

That's all I can think of at the moment

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DialgaChampion

Oct 28, 2026

n0qcu said:
Googles AI is wrong as according to what you wrote you have two completely separate satellite line from the switch

My be a dumb question but did you run the check switch option on th 2nd H3

Did you try swapping the H3 to see if the problem switches between the two

That's all I can think of at the moment

Check Status complete. No issues found.
Test Installation screen shows green checks for 61.5 and 72, all 16 tuners.
Options > TV Activity shows 1 of 16 tuners in use.

When I bring up the program guide, the dish scapes channel appears and displays fine. The guide also shows the bonusview channels, and the stream and ppv channels.

I tried swapping the 2nd H3's cables with the 1st H3 and having it as the only H3 connected. It still has the same issue, so it seems isolated to the second Hopper 3 itself.

There was another suggestion from Google, not sure if it applies:

If the TV Activity Screen shows that your tuners are "Available" and "1 of 16 in use," your satellite signal path is 100% active and perfectly working. Your hardware wiring bypass has officially succeeded—the second Hopper 3 is successfully talking to the DPH42 switch, receiving high-frequency satellite data, and its internal processors are healthy. Because the hardware is fully operational, the fact that your screen is still black and the guide is missing means your receiver is stuck in Account Quarantine (Authorization Hold). Because a dual Hopper 3 system requires a non-standard account setup (32 tuners instead of the typical 16-tuner cap), standard "Wake Up" hits sent from the customer app or website are getting rejected by the system. The box can look at the data stream (which is why tuners show as available), but it is legally blocked by the internal software from decoding the live video feeds. To flip the switch and activate the live video feed, a DISH billing agent must manually push a tier-3 service re-hit through their legacy terminal.

Any thoughts?

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slow_poke_pete

Oct 28, 2026

DialgaChampion said:
No, it's specifically to fix the problem with the 4K Joey's live feed intermittently freezing. I'll be watching a live program and then randomly out of nowhere, the picture and sound will just pixelate/freeze for 5-10 seconds, then go back to normal. Doesn't matter which channel it's on either. It's like what happens when the signal cuts out during heavy rain or a thunderstorm, but this will happen even on a perfectly clear day/night.

It doesn't happen with my H3 though, only with the Joey. I've replaced the solo hub and I've also replaced the Joey itself with another brand new 4K Joey, but it's still the same problem. And I know it's not the coax going from the hub into the Joey because I previously had another receiver connected in the same room before changing to the whole home dvr setup and that receiver worked fine.

So I'm basing this off process of elimination, which seems to indicate a problem with the 4K Joey device itself. Only thing I haven't tried is maybe getting a regular Joey 3, if that's still the latest model of Joey currently available, but otherwise the only other solution is getting a second Hopper 3. It'd be nice if the 42 and the Power Inserter weren't necessary and I could just use the Duo Hub though.

Why not upgrade to the joey 4 with is an android box and dump the 4k joey

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DialgaChampion

Yesterday at 9:29 PM

Ok, I finally solved it. The second Hopper 3 just needed to be updated to the latest software version. After downloading it, all the channels in my package showed up in the program guide. I guess Dish's system is set up so that if your receiver doesn't have the most recent software update, you can't access your channels, even if the receiver is authorized on the account.

Thank you everyone for helping. I'm very proud I was able to set all of this up myself with all of your guidance. I only wish my mother was still alive to enjoy it, but life is not fair.

slow_poke_pete said:
Why not upgrade to the joey 4 with is an android box and dump the 4k joey

Stubborness perhaps. I could've tried replacing the original H3 to see if that solved the freezing issue too, since it's over 10 years old now. But I spent so much time and effort trying to set up the coax cables correctly and buying all the correct equipment for a 2 Hopper setup that I was determined to get it done. I'm not a DIYer, but this was one thing I was very passionate about doing, to give my parents the best television experience possible without the hassle of internet/streaming.

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meStevo

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Last reply Yesterday at 8:14 PM · posted in The Sports Section

NFL 2026-2027 Season

Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.

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HipKat

Tuesday at 4:27 PM

Balls
Bears. Took care of the elite Seahawks defense in a great performance.
NFC North. The entire division is 2 games above .500
Lions. Finally handed an L to that weird Minnesota team. Good vibes for Jack Campbell.
Pitt. Took the lead of the division convincingly.
Bengals vs Titans game. Fireworks game. Not sure it was a well-played game, but it sure was fun. JoeyB with 6 scores... and 4 turnovers.
Denver. They keep winning, man. Payton is a baller of a coach.
Packers. Thorough beatdown of the hard-to-read Panthers.
Jags. Demolished the hapless Colts.
Rams. The Super team finally wins back-to-back games.

Goats
Vikings. Took their first L. I know their D is insane, but their offense is setting back football to the 1950's.
Cowboys. Lost a 2-score lead vs. the Gardner Minshew-led Cards... at home. Embarrassing.
Browns. Playing for the division lead by scoring 6 points.
Bucs vs Falcons game. Setting modern football back to the ice age. Honorable mention to Tua Penix err ... Michael Tagov .... well, you know what I mean.
Bengals fans acting like Burrow just won the MVP after his performance. I get it. 6 scores is awesome. But. He also turned the ball over 4 times and required overtime to beat the 1-win Titans. So spare me the parade.
Chiefs. Not because they lost. It was a close game decided on the last play vs. a divisional rival on the road. That's always rough. But because of their whining over the CLEAR flag they got on the would-be winning play. They are used to getting the calls, and when they don't, they complain. Honorable mention to Mahomes for this quote: "I mean, at the end of the day, you have to go with whatever is called, but a lot of times in those big moments, the little stuff doesn't get called like that"... so you admit it was a penalty?? Just shut up, man.
Colts. They began the fire sale earlier in the week, and it showed. This team is cooked; Daniel Jones should go to the bench, and Steichen will be fired pretty soon.
Chargers. Wow. That's all I got.
Miami. For having the Pats sort of on the ropes and letting them go.
Eagles. Another team that should consider selling some assets. They are going nowhere.

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Howard Simmons

Yesterday at 11:24 AM

HipKat said:
Balls
Bears. Took care of the elite Seahawks defense in a great performance.
NFC North. The entire division is 2 games above .500
Lions. Finally handed an L to that weird Minnesota team. Good vibes for Jack Campbell.
Pitt. Took the lead of the division convincingly.
Bengals vs Titans game. Fireworks game. Not sure it was a well-played game, but it sure was fun. JoeyB with 6 scores... and 4 turnovers.
Denver. They keep winning, man. Payton is a baller of a coach.
Packers. Thorough beatdown of the hard-to-read Panthers.
Jags. Demolished the hapless Colts.
Rams. The Super team finally wins back-to-back games.

Goats
Vikings. Took their first L. I know their D is insane, but their offense is setting back football to the 1950's.
Cowboys. Lost a 2-score lead vs. the Gardner Minshew-led Cards... at home. Embarrassing.
Browns. Playing for the division lead by scoring 6 points.
Bucs vs Falcons game. Setting modern football back to the ice age. Honorable mention to Tua Penix err ... Michael Tagov .... well, you know what I mean.
Bengals fans acting like Burrow just won the MVP after his performance. I get it. 6 scores is awesome. But. He also turned the ball over 4 times and required overtime to beat the 1-win Titans. So spare me the parade.
Chiefs. Not because they lost. It was a close game decided on the last play vs. a divisional rival on the road. That's always rough. But because of their whining over the CLEAR flag they got on the would-be winning play. They are used to getting the calls, and when they don't, they complain. Honorable mention to Mahomes for this quote: "I mean, at the end of the day, you have to go with whatever is called, but a lot of times in those big moments, the little stuff doesn't get called like that"... so you admit it was a penalty?? Just shut up, man.
Colts. They began the fire sale earlier in the week, and it showed. This team is cooked; Daniel Jones should go to the bench, and Steichen will be fired pretty soon.
Chargers. Wow. That's all I got.
Miami. For having the Pats sort of on the ropes and letting them go.
Eagles. Another team that should consider selling some assets. They are going nowhere.

Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.

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reubenray

Yesterday at 11:49 AM

Howard Simmons said:
Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.

So is Kelce.

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meStevo

Yesterday at 12:14 PM

Just the same vilification as players like Brady experienced, a product of their success and largely overblown (just like them 'getting all the calls').

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Yespage

Yesterday at 1:31 PM

Howard Simmons said:
Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.

Well you see him more because he is incredibly talented. And yes, typically players try to spin things being in their favor. This isn't cricket where sportsmanship (except in Australia) is expected.

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HipKat

Yesterday at 8:13 PM

Howard Simmons said:
Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.

He wants to be Brady

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HipKat

Yesterday at 8:14 PM

meStevo said:
Just the same vilification as players like Brady experienced, a product of their success and largely overblown (just like them 'getting all the calls').

The only people who deny what Brady got from the officials are Brady fans

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tparker

Last reply Yesterday at 6:09 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

"Bonus View" Channel List

I was bewildered with all the new DISH TV "Bonus View" channels, so I put together a web page table with all the info I could find. It's at:

https://anythingpeaceful.org/dishtv/DISH_TV_Bonus_View_Channels.html

Here's a partial screenshot of the table, as sorted by Channel Name. (You can click on a column header to sort.)

If you have any corrections or suggestions, please post here.

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tparker

Sep 30, 2026

One Bonus View channel added today. And one correction (on my part):

One Removed:

My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

BTW, not a Bonus View item, but there was a temporary channel 304 Spooktacular added, I imagine just for the Halloween season.

Thanks again to Pat for the many tips.

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tparker

Oct 21, 2026

Three new Bonus View channels today:

My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

As always, thanks to Pat for the tips.

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tparker

Oct 28, 2026

Four Bonus View channels removed today:

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bnewt

Yesterday at 8:20 AM

Why all the changes?

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tparker

Yesterday at 6:09 PM

bnewt said:
Why all the changes?

I guess the Bonus View world is very dynamic.

And here's two more changes for you:

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meStevo

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Last reply Yesterday at 5:43 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Volcanic Eruptions

Continuing the Kilauea thread in the Pub here. Perhaps the Iceland one too next time there's remarkable activity.

Currently there is precursory lava flowing into the crater, leading to the next episode that'll probably start within the next day.

You can see the pace of inflation / deflation here. It serves as the primary predictor for when the expect the eruptions, which coincide w/ inflation turning into significant deflation and last for several hours on average with significant fountaining.

Monitoring Data for Kīlauea

For more information on how electronic tiltmeters and GPS receivers help monitor the deformation of Kīlauea volcano, see the HVO Deformation page.

www.usgs.gov

View: https://youtu.be/Uecu2seh4b4

Wife and I like the AfarTV feeds, for the discussion along w/ them, though they're otherwise just mirrors of the official USGS feeds.

View: https://youtu.be/iws3rh5vLAQ

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Foxbat

Oct 17, 2026

Oooo, quite the show now. All three vents have doming and overflows. The cone that built up around the North vent lost its upper quarter at 02:50 Oct 17 and is now spewing lava at a healthy rate. Don't know if I would say it's a fountain, but it's close.

edit: The USGS has called the official start of Episode 55 as starting at 03:19 HST Oct 17, 2026:

Alert Level: WATCH, Color Code: ORANGE 2026-10-17 13:43:56 UTC
HVO/USGS Volcanic Activity Notice

Volcano: Kilauea (VNUM #332010)

Current Volcano Alert Level: WATCH
Current Aviation Color Code: ORANGE

Issued: Saturday, October 17, 2026, 3:43 AM HST
Source: Hawaiian Volcano Observatory
Notice Number: 2026/H488
Location: N 19 deg 25 min W 155 deg 17 min
Elevation: 4091 ft (1247 m)
Area: Hawaii

Summary: Episode 55 of the ongoing Halemaʻumaʻu eruption began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.

Volcanic Activity:
Episode 55 of lava fountaining in Halemaʻumaʻu began at the summit of Kīlauea began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.

Fountain heights are relatively low at about 100-150 feet (30-45 m), and it is not clear whether this episode will evolve to the same heights as previous episodes. Continuous overflows from the vents began yesterday, October 16, just before 6 a.m. HST and transitioned into episode 55 fountains at 3:19 a.m. HST this morning. The current forecast is for winds are blowing from the north-northeast direction, which suggests that volcanic gas emissions and volcanic material may be distributed to the south-southwest direction from Halemaʻumaʻu.

All eruptive vents and lava flows are confined to Halemaʻumaʻu crater within Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park. Tephra fall from volcanic ash clouds is greatest within 3 miles (5 km) of the vents, lighter ash and Pele's Hair may stay suspended for large distances from the vents.

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Foxbat

Oct 17, 2026

Kīlauea seems to be returning to the "normal" eruption script, impressive fountaining from the North Vent. For once, the V2 Cam has the best overall shot:

The lava flows have covered a good portion of the Halemaʻumaʻu crater floor.

Foxbat

Oct 17, 2026

Looks like Episode 55 is over at 09:00 HST, just under six hours. The USGS said the fountains reached 720' or 220 meters.

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Foxbat

Tuesday at 10:25 AM

The USGS Kīlaeua Webcam #1 has been showing overflows and doming from the North vent overnight. Maybe the volcanic plumbing has settled back into its two-three week cycle of fountaining?

But I do miss the little cinder cone that broke up in the last episode.

Foxbat

Yesterday at 5:43 PM

Sorry, I should have posted these earlier:

We're still waiting on the start of Episode 56.

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