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ikki
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The 6 foot dish dilemma

As some of you know my first C Band dish was a 6 footer that I got for free.

Since 2007 I have messed around with it and have determined that it is pretty much worthless for C band.

Last fall I installed a prime focus KU band LNBF and it mostly made it though the winter but was only being held in by "tape".

I have looked around around for a better mount and have been unable to find one. So I am left with two options.

1. Give the dish away for free with LNBF (C or KU) and wash my hands of it.

2. Figure out a way to mount this KU LNBF correctly.

Any thoughts?

Here is an older thread with a picture of my dish.

http://www.satelliteguys.us/4dtv-discussion/176144-w5-4dtv.html

(You will notice the LNBF is supported by four arms instead of the usual three)
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ikki
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> ...but when I got my first primestar and connected it-the difference in signal was amazing. So I never went back to primefocus dish for ku, though some folks have great success with them.

One last question. Is the general consensus on this board that 3 foot / 4 foot KU band offset dish will always outperform a 6 foot prime focus dish that was ment for C band and converted to KU band?

I realy need to figure out what to do before winter
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FaT Air
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I'd think that a 1.2m (1 piece) offset would out perform a 2m (multi-panel) prime focus consumer dish on the Ku band. Unless your willing to put in the effort and time to get everything just right (perfect), Also, the feed used could effect performance greatly. A re-purposed commercial offset would be even harder to out perform. Basically saying, the 1.2 should outshine the prime focus with equal labor. (Investment $ could go either way depending on how acquired) BTW- these are only my thoughts, I've never messed with a 6ft on Ku to compare performance of the two, side by side. Maybe should have started a poll?
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ikki
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If you do not mind starting a poll asking that question that would be awesome.
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If you're looking for Ku-band reception, I would dump the 6' and go with a good 1.2m offset (SatelliteAV has very a very nice unit, but shipping is costly). It's a very rare FTA prime-focus dish that can beat a 1.2m offset on Ku. A prime-focus' surface accuracy is usually not adequate and finding a LNB(F) that matches is not easy. I have looked at "prime-focus Ku LNBFs", but have reservations. They tend to be specified with a f/D of 0.5-0.7, which will horribly under-illuminate any prime-focus dish. However pictures suggest their actual f/D may be lower.

I experimented around for a couple of years with a 6' Fortec petal dish. On C-band, especially with a single orthomode feed, it was a good performer when very carefully tweaked. I could get nearly everything my larger dishes received, including DVB-S2. There were 1-2 FEC 9/10 DVB-S2 feeds that were on the edge and a small number of signals where the 6' couldn't discriminate adjacent orbital interference. However it became our workhorse C-band dish and spent most of its time on 58W where it got everything.

I had some success with the 6' on Ku, but in the end it rarely measured up to my 1.2m offsets. I tried a dual orthomode feed, both stock and with customizations for Ku, and an Invacom ADF-120 Ku-only feed with C120 flanged LNBs. The ADF-120 is truly an adjustable prime-focus feed, and it convinced me there was no future for Ku on my 6'. It didn't help that the 6' polar mount was pretty sloppy mechanically, and unable to grasp a 3" OD pole tightly enough to withstand the winds I endure.

Last week I retired the 6' because I got tired of climbing on the roof every time we had a wind storm. If it had been mounted in a better shielded location and the city ordinances allowed it, I would have continued to use it for C-band. Instead I put up a 2.6m Birdview prime-focus in a more accessible location on the roof. I have put a fair amount of time into adapting my dual ortho to work with this dish and am getting good results on both C and Ku (I have a thread about this in the C-band subforum). This is the first time I have a prime-focus dish beating my 1.2m offsets. The Birdview is alleged to have an accurate surface, however my 1.8m offset beats the 2.6m Birdview. This could be a limitation of the dual ortho feed. Someday I would like to test my ADF-120 on the Birdview and resolve this question once and for all.
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Agree with pendragon, go with the ku-band dish for less headaches. I don't know that they would "always outperform a c-band dish", a lot depends on the dish/mount, how accurate the parabolic shape is, how well it tracks, how much slop in the polar mount, etc.
I have a 10' SAMI dish, that rocks on ku, with the co-rotor feedhorn, but I don't use it for ku since I have 2 other steerable ku dish systems. Backups for backups , lol.
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Song Name Game Part 3!

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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

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NFL 2026-2027 Season

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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
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Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties

Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
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Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties

Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.
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Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
www.colts.com

Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties

Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.
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Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
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DISH Hopper 3 Software Version 713 Is Out

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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
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They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
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Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
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jsmit86 said:
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
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I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
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Generative AI: Revolutionizing Game NPC Dialogue & Behavior? #shorts

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S.W.A.T. Exiles (Starz)

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Stargate SG-1 Discussion

Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
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reubenray said:
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
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Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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long_time_Dish said:
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
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reubenray said:
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
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If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.
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2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.
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