Social Feed

The Fat Man
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
This post is a subjective point of view about the state of Rock music. The statements made have little to no factual evidence for support. It also must be said that I fully understand that all radio is a buisness and companies will go in the direction that will garner the most amount of profit.

Yesterday, I posted in a thread, in the Dish Network Forum, that I am tired of specificly CBS Radio's "agenda" to kill Modern Rock Radio. In the thread, I was really vague, because my statement had very little to do with OP's post. It made me think though about how much repressed anger I have toward the topic. I'll have to begin to what caused the anger in the beginning.

In August of 2009, CBS Radio made a decision to end a 40+ year run of WBCN (formerly on 104.1 in Boston), the station that got me to listen to rock as a child, in the late 80s, start an Sports Talk format, and (to pour salt on an open wound) swap frequencies of the Sports Talk format with their pop station. So, in all, two hours after WBCN disapeared (I don't coun't that HD Radio escuse, the station I knew is GONE) Mix 98.5 became Mix 104.1. I acually went out to my car at 12:30 AM. and erased 104.1 from my preset before Mix switched. In the days that followed, I really got tired of people from CBS, and general people interested in the field claiming that men in their 20s and 30s rather listen to guys talk about Sports all day long instead listen to music that they enjoyed. I began to observe the state of other current and former Modern Rock CBS Stations around the country and noticed a very disturbing trend that began around late 2008/early 2009, and still continues today.

For arguement sake, we can say that the current onslaught began about a decade ago when CBS began to attempt to grow a replacement for Howard Stern with Opie & Anthony during their 102.7 WNEW run. During that time, Nu-Metal was on the rise with bands like Godsmack, Korn, Limp Bizkit, Slipknot, and others. Howard Stern was still huge across America, but we all knew that their would be a time when Stern's run would end. CBS realized that shows like Stern and O&A brought in profit. They began to use a practice of limiting the amout of rock music being played on rock stations to push these shows that broadcasted across America, and limited the cost of hiring local DJs to play the music. Had Sex for Sam 3 never happened, we would have seen a growing trend of exactly what happened at WNEW. Shutting down rock for talk.

Unfortunate for CBS, SFS3 did happen, and they soon realized that besides shows like Stern and O&A, people really didn't care about Talk. Stern still carried the ratings for many rock stations like WXRK in New York. For others, like WBCN, programning following Stern held well enough in the ratings. In my opinion, CBS was livid at these stations, because it had plans dating back to 2000 to eliminate the rock format. Rock fans tend to be more assoiciated with Internet savy people who also follow the independent scene more willingly than those who listen to Pop radio. Which, CBS began doing with some of its former rock stations following the loss of O&A, most notably WNEW.

When Sten left for Sirius, CBS was stuck with two situations. For the stations that used Stern's ratings to hold themselves together, such as WXRK, CBS's answer was "Free-FM". For others, CBS couldn't justify killing them off YET. This began an act that CBS played with each of its rock stations on the East Coast. Watering down the music. Ironically, when Stern left, the remaining rock stations began to play a heavy rotation of 90s grounge and alternative with very little new acts. Most new music came from 80s and 90s established bands, such as Pearl Jam, Foo Fighters, Bush, etc,. or the Superbands that were a combo of members of 80s and 90s bands, such as Velvet Revolver, Audioslave, Army of Everyone, etc. Little new acts poke their heads up, and in my opinion, the majority of them were horrible acts, most notably Silver Sun Pickups. Bands such as the one just mentioned were over played with songs like Smells Like Teen Spirit, Machinehead, Down, Bulls on Parade, etc. Then when listeners began to look at their markets competition, who had a better variety in their catalogue and more NEW ACTS, CBS claimed that ratings were low, and they didn't need their rock stations.

One hurtle remained. David Lee Roth was selected to replace Stern on the East Coast, with other acts across the country. Stern refered to it in his final months on CBS Radio as "carving up my empire". Roth did as horrible as expected, trying to kill the national morning show; however, acts like Adam Carolla, Penn, and even Rover held some ratings. But, CBS's Fee-FM was failing in most markets. To help boost the Free-FM ratings Roth was replaced with Stern's original intended replacements Opie & Anthony. The show overall held very well, but Free-FM didn't. CBS still wanted to hold its men in their 20s and 30s demo so some stations reverted back to rock, such as WFNY going back to K-Rock and eevntually the WXRK call letters, and WYSP. Other stations went way of CBS #2 format, Pop.

Still watering down the music selection, CBS never intended to permentally replace Free-FM with rock. They just tried to hold on until the next big talk format was ready. In New York, Sports Talk was doing well on WFAN. The station generally did and still does hold well. Also, HD Radio was beginning to be pushed as competition to Satellite Radio. The light bulb then came on in CBS's head. First, kill K-Rock and Opie & Anthony in the morning. It wasn't easy to kill the latter, so they systematically pulled funding from their rock stations, causing the stations to drop O&A. Without many markets, it became easy to eliminate O&A. No more K-Rock meant no more O&A. CBS figured to force aits second Pop station on New York listeners, as WWFS (formerly WNEW) had been doing for a while.

Eventually, the rock stations one by one began to be sports talk. The rock formats weren't left for people to freely try to resurect. Instead, each of these formats were sent to the purgatory that is HD-2 and HD-3. This kept fans from demanding a return of their favorite stations. All CBS had to say was "it's alive and well at 222.2 HD-2 or 333.3 HD-3".

To wrap up this subjective "History Lesson", CBS is trying to get at the mass that I feel are "brain dead". It's one thing to love sports, as I do. I'm a die hard Hockey fan, and Football is a very close second. But, to sit in my car, and listen to some fat lazy sloth talk about his opinion of the game, and have people who couldn't hack it in high school sports call and talk about how they could do better, is a waste of my time. I enjoy the game, talk about it with my collegues, but I do enjoy diversity in my daily life. In the car, if I'm listening to talk it's a variety of stations. Especially ones that express different point of views. Not, the fat ass in the morning says the Jets could have played better, then the fat ass in the afternoon repeats the same thing, then the fat ass at night talks about how the other two fat asses could be wrong. All doing so while stuffing their fat faces with food provided by the radio station.

And Pop! What can be said, other than it is the same 15 songs in rotation between all 5 pop stations in each market, MTV, MTV2, MTV Hits, MTV Jams (most pop listeners are Rap wanna bees), VH1, and with parts played in CSI, CSI Miami, CSI NY, NCIS, NCIS LA, American Idol, X-Factor, Dancing with the Stars, and the list goes on and on. My wife says it what people like, but in my opinion, it's only because it's what these companies are forcing down their listeners and viewers throats.

My question to you is, have we reached a point where with the exception of some Hard Rap and Country, no other music format is warranted on the FM dial anymore? Does Sports Talk and Pop deserve to be held in so many different radio and television locations. Does anyone agree with me, or am I just a cinic? Feel free to rip me apart. I know that I am more pasonite about this than most people I know.
2 Replies · 1335 views
L
Hmm, I think somone has to write the Internet killed the Radio Station song. Why listen to an FM Radio station with 10 minutes of commercial in 30 minutes, traffic that isn't relelvent to you and another 10 minutes of some boring DJ yapping, when I can program what I want into Pandora or similar on my phone and send it the speakers in my car simply and not have to bother.

There is a local morning show in Washing, DC that has been with the same primary DJ for the 15 years I have been in the DC area. I listen to that show in the morning during my commute to work for maybe 30 minutes a day. For the drive home I plug my smartphone into my radio and listen to Pandora or MP3s. This also give me the benefit with my car-doc for my phone of hand free cell phone, but I'd do it with just a phono jack if I had to.

I have the advantage of working locally and I haven't had to listened to a traffic report in almost 14 years, but if what you want to listen to on the radio is a specific type of music you are more likely to get the kind of music you want internet radio then with FM Radio and you will hear the music you want to hear not endless commercials and DJ babble.
The Fat Man
I know that I'm only speaking about Rock stations; however, Pandora and IHeartRadio still practice watering down playlists. I tell it I want modern rock, and it still plays the same artists. I see the most variety on SiriusXM, thankfully I have Dish and am able to listen to the music channels.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
68625 Replies · 2678566 views
  • Like
Reactions: c-spand
long_time_Dish
Lonely Street - Kansas
dishstaller
Lonely is the Night - Billy Squier
long_time_Dish
Lonely People - America
  • Like
Reactions: ClarkGable
H
PEOPLE Are Strange-The Doors
  • Like
Reactions: ClarkGable
ClarkGable
You're Still A Young Man - Tower Of Power
JSheridan
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
171 Replies · 4772 views
MikeD-C05
I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH and then if you can't see the western arc you go with streaming versions and then they could keep customers if they had good internet speeds. I mean Sling TV could be changed to Streaming DISH TV if they wanted since both companies are under Echostar. Then you would still be able to use your ota antenna with Air TV devices like I do with Air TV Anywhere with 4 ota tuners.
Scott Greczkowski
I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH
I have the same wish.
S
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
Jimbo
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
Mister B
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
S
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
can't forget the little blue m&m's
charlesrshell
can't forget the little blue m&m's
That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!
B
I have the same wish.
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite
NYDutch
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite
DISH will happily sell them a Starlink system and service.
T
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
Foxbat
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
Because he didn't have a fleet of reusable rockets. Starlink works because SpaceX is able to launch hundreds (thousands?) of their Starlink satellites for what a single geostationary Internet satellite costs to build and launch on a disposable launcher.
T
But how is it reusable if it's disposable
S
That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!
My gf is 29 years younger than me :shh
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
RIP dude. Always liked his music. He was 83


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH5Arbm47IQ
1 Replies · 22 views
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
· posted in The Chit Chat Club
This video was put up shortly after I was able to take my family out to Yosemite in 2011. No AI.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6-2fVsFV8E
0 Replies · 13 views
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Love this guy's channel. Looks like Walmart has thrown in the towel when it comes to conventional car batteries.

I bought a new AGM battery from Walmart about a year ago, it is already needing replacing. I thought about just buying a regular battery but from what I've read, that might not be a smart move. Might check my Forscan program and see if I can change the battery type from AGM.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awe7kY5nvdU
18 Replies · 199 views
harshness
When you need a battery, you need a battery.

If you can wait, new technologies are on the not-too-distant horizon.

You're probably doing something wrong if you're only getting a year out of an AGM battery. Heat and infrequent charging both significantly reduce lifetime.
dishstaller
You're probably doing something wrong if you're only getting a year out of an AGM battery. Heat and infrequent charging both significantly reduce lifetime.
Huh? How can I be doing something wrong.....I took out the original battery, that was 6 yrs old and put in a new one.....kinda hard to screw that up. I figure it was just a bad battery....it happens.


The biggest takeaway I got from this video was the Walmart batteries only had something like 85% of battery life left even though they were brand NEW. The ones from O'Reilly all tested 100% of life left.
Jimbo
Huh? How can I be doing something wrong.....I took out the original battery, that was 6 yrs old and put in a new one.....kinda hard to screw that up. I figure it was just a bad battery....it happens.


The biggest takeaway I got from this video was the Walmart batteries only had something like 85% of battery life left even though they were brand NEW. The ones from O'Reilly all tested 100% of life left.
And the Walmart ones mostly had very little warranty.

My last AGM (using now) I got from O Rielly's, its the Super Start ... I got the Platnium, they had several to choose from.
T
He sounds like he's trying to sell me a pocket hose.

I just had to replace a car battery this week and thought I'd look into LiFePo4. Amazon has plenty of them, but all have top posts and only one 'also' has side connections (Group 75).Then I read that they're really lousy in the cold. So, an AGM, but again, almost nothing with side terminals instead of top. In researching that, I read that most mfrs in recent years have dropped side terminals and gone back to the old top posts, which is surprising to me since those are more corrosion-prone, cause the battery to need more space and are generally more hazardous. Finally I just threw up my hands and bought a regular lead-acid at Sam's Club. They had a Group 75 "Duracell" with side terminals only. It was virtually the only such battery with side posts on their shelves
arlo
Had a Die Hard in my folks cellar for over 6 years. Pulled it out, slapped it on a charger for a day. Put it in my 'Cuda and drove it around for a week of my vacation. Next year, the same. But my dad kept it topped off for me.It was a mid 80's battery in early 1990.

Flooded acid batteries like a float voltage of around 13.5-13.8 voltage.
AGM needs a float of 14.2 volts. So if you slap an AGM in where a flooded was. It never gets a full charge.
"Why do they die so fast?" Question answered. There are folks who sell voltage regulators for alternators that are designed to boost float voltage for AGM batteries.
The other way around? Flooded will gas-off a little at 14.2 volts. But seems to tolerate it pretty good.

Lithium car/bike/atv batteries. After 3 batteries in my Harley. The OEM flooded and two AGM's (before the 14.2 volt float requirement to let them live was learned). I bought a lithium for it. 4 year, no gripe warranty after having it tested by an approved store.
The thing started like Thor himself sent a bolt from the sky. Except......try to start it around freezing? Nope. Needed a heating pad.
And I usually like to park it around events in the evening with the parking light on. Looks cool like that.
We could traipse around for a few hours no worries. Hop on, fire it up, and go putt around.
Lithium? A Dakota Lithium at least. The BMS shuts it right down if it discharges below <something>.
Come back. Parking lights off. Won't start. And you know the rest. But it lasted 6 years. A lot better than 'new every two'. And the fact that powersports batteries are warranted for six, maybe nine months. Ludicrous.

I called Noco. Asked all of the right questions. Great warranty. Save some bucks ordering directly, faster service that the wally world alternative.
They addressed (or claimed over the phone) that the shut down was addressed. Sure. The BMS keeps it form being damaged. But if it is shut down because it does become low. Shut down any load (key on, parking or headlights left on) for 10-15 minutes and you get a second try to start your rig. Not a bad thing if it really works. Right?!

Exide, Interstate? Be very afraid. They ain't what they used to be. In Florida my '70 Cutlass had an Interstate (early 90') that lasted 6 years until it dropped its plates at an intersection and boiled over. In Florida, mind you. The last Interstate.....done in 2. Guys down there would suck out the acid and put water in shortly before the warranty ran out. Make it to the auto parts, get them tested. And get a new one pro rated. No more pro rating.
You can't beat an Odyssey. Napa, AC Deco (the better ones). Yup.
The mom and pop Car Quest only sells Die Hard. For a reason, the old man says. So they convinced that a Die HArd Platinum was the hot ticket for me. l will see. Stand by!

You can't cut Mr. Project Farm down. He does great tests of all sorts of things. Not sponsored and pressured to slap a little sugar on his comparisons and reviews. Compared to the Brits and Aussies with their constant overzealous and same sounding (Dave from EEVblog) rant. I like P-Farm a lot. Of course I like AvE (Boltr) too.
Reminds me to beware when wearing shorts around the garage vice.


Opinions may vary.
harshness
And the Walmart ones mostly had very little warranty.
The days of the 84-month warranty appear long gone, regardless of brand or where you acquired it. Warranties tend to be shorter, with much greater dependence on quick prorating.

The big problem for lead-acid batteries (whether flooded or AGM) is that the US no longer produces lead (the last smelter closed in 2013) and must import it.

Recycling covers a good chunk of the need (~70%), but it isn't free.
EarDemon
I've always got regular OEM Ford Motorcraft batteries from the dealership and have never really had an issue. On my old Lincoln Aviator (the SUV from the early 00s, not the CUV of today), I had some phantom drain and went though a few batteries, but that was an anomaly and with the standard warranty I got free replacements. Taking the Aviator out of the picture, I've bought two batteries in my 24 years of driving. One battery replacement in my Mountaineer, one in my Navigator. But I probably would have had another one had I kept it around longer. Didn't have the Bronco long enough, and so far still on the factory battery for my Expedition.

I run more than the average bear. Dash cam, two radar detectors (yes, I'm aware that can be problematic when using simultaneously), laser jammers and a police scanner. I'm in Buffalo, 90 degree summers and 0 degree winters. Once in a while in the dead of winter I'll get an alert from the Ford app saying remote features have been disabled to conserve battery, but it starts right up.
dishstaller
I run more than the average bear. Dash cam, two radar detectors (yes, I'm aware that can be problematic when using simultaneously), laser jammers and a police scanner.
warrior.webp
Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
168 Replies · 2398 views
  • Haha
Reactions: Mike0616
Jimbo
AI Overview


College Football Playoff bracket, schedule, scores, rankings ...

The 2025–26 College Football Playoff concluded with the Indiana Hoosiers winning the national championship by defeating the Miami Hurricanes 27–21. [1, 2, 3]

Playoff Results Summary
The 12-team playoff bracket featured the following key results across each round: [1]
    • First Round: Alabama defeated Oklahoma (34–24), Miami (Fla.) beat Texas A&M (10–3), Ole Miss topped Tulane (41–10), and Oregon defeated James Madison (51–34) at higher-seeded campus sites.
    • Quarterfinals: Miami (Fla.) upset Ohio State (24–14), Oregon shut out Texas Tech (23–0), top-ranked Indiana rolled past Alabama (38–3), and Ole Miss edged Georgia (39–34) across the New Year's Six bowls.
    • Semifinals: Miami (Fla.) advanced past Ole Miss (31–27) in the Peach Bowl, while Indiana dominant-defeated Oregon (56–22) in the Fiesta Bowl.
    • National Championship: Indiana secured the title with a 27–21 victory over Miami (Fla.) at Hard Rock Stadium. [1, 2, 3, 4]
Unfortunately, there was not rankings listed in this summary
AZ.
AZ.
And no teams deserve a bye! Injuries are the largest part of the game that you cant practice for them. Any team can suffer the worst injury at any position on any play. No favorites.
Jimbo
And no teams deserve a bye! Injuries are the largest part of the game that you cant practice for them. Any team can suffer the worst injury at any position on any play. No favorites.
I think they are actually discussing the Top 8 get a Bye this time, if they go to 24.
Then again, I heard something about Play in games for the 16-24 teams ...

Nothing is official yet, so lots of moving parts ...

Can't wait, lets do 24, 3 years later they will want 32 :sick
Y
And no teams deserve a bye! Injuries are the largest part of the game that you cant practice for them. Any team can suffer the worst injury at any position on any play. No favorites.
While the bye can help the top four teams and those the Cartels would like to protect in the playoff, I think the bye is also about making the Cartel championships mean something. One problem with a playoff is it does diminish the conference title a bit.
Jimbo
While the bye can help the top four teams and those the Cartels would like to protect in the playoff, I think the bye is also about making the Cartel championships mean something. One problem with a playoff is it does diminish the conference title a bit.
Once the 24 gets here, there won't be anymore Conference Championships .... or so they say.

Oh what the hell, we really don't need Conferences anymore either ...:coco:(
  • Haha
Reactions: meStevo
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
· posted in The Chit Chat Club
0 Replies · 30 views
osu1991
Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
4 Replies · 69 views
Bobby
Rest in peace. Together again with Spock, Doc, Uhura, and Scotty...
long_time_Dish
Rest in peace, Checkov, and Bester too...
FTA4PA
Rest In Peace 😢
Foxbat
Rest in Peace…