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bobinchico
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NHL CI and Blackouts - Confusing

I have an earlier post where I was wondering why, living in CA, I could not record the Jets vs Wings game Saturday on 630. Even after given a reason from the Dirt Team why it is blacked out, it doesn't square with what shows on the link at DN:
Blackout Restrictions

I explored further and used the Game Finder link on the blackouts page:
Game Finder - DISH Network

You can either enter your account number or zip code, select Hockey and search for the next five days. The first thing I noticed was there a lot of games that are supposed to be blacked out on NHL CI for my zip code - 95973. I also noticed the channel numbers for CI start with 4 on this page and not 6 which are the channels I access CI from my VIP 722.

I think it was after the L722 software update that a little red banner with the words RENTED (in white) appear next to all the CI games. The only game it does not appear next to on Saturday is the Jets vs Wings on my receiver. Yet, looking at today's (Thurs 12/08 and Sat. 12/10) games there are many shown on Game Finder that indicate they will be blacked out on the CI channels. But that does not appear to be the case when looking at the schedule on my receiver.

In Game Finder it shows today's Coyotes vs Wings game on FoxD is blacked out. Yet, that game just started recording for me a couple of minutes ago.

Maybe it's just some glitch with the Saturday Jets vs Wings game that will not let me setup a DVR event for it and probably not let me watch it live on Saturday either.
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The Game Finder link lists games that would be on the RSNETs and not PPV events. I am not sure why you would have been blacked out if it wasn't on NHLN or VS. You should only be blacked out from games in your viewing area (i.e If I try to watch the Avs play on Center Ice instead of Altitude here in Denver). If it happens again send me a PM and I will investigate this further.
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So the $7/mo gets me the luxury to see these channels in my guide but I can't watch the programming. I just can't see how all these games could be blacked out the south central PA.

I watch hockey and could care less about other sports programming. It seems like Center Ice would be a waste too because all the games will be blacked out on there too.
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beavis4ever said:
So the $7/mo gets me the luxury to see these channels in my guide but I can't watch the programming. I just can't see how all these games could be blacked out the south central PA.

I watch hockey and could care less about other sports programming. It seems like Center Ice would be a waste too because all the games will be blacked out on there too.
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The reason to not get CI would be because of limited HD feeds of hockey games, not because they'd all be blacked out. Center Ice gives you access to out of market NHL games (the only ones to be blacked out would be games on NHL Network, VS (NBC Sports) or NBC which are rather few), while the Sports Pack does not.
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Yespage said:
The reason to not get CI would be because of limited HD feeds of hockey games, not because they'd all be blacked out. Center Ice gives you access to out of market NHL games (the only ones to be blacked out would be games on NHL Network, VS (NBC Sports) or NBC which are rather few), while the Sports Pack does not.
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I have Dish and I don't really understand all this talk about the lack of HD on CI.
Other than the games out of Canada,other than NHL network,NY&NJ most of,if not all, games have at least ONE and most times TWO HD feeds.
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ZachS@DISH Network said:
The Game Finder link lists games that would be on the RSNETs and not PPV events. I am not sure why you would have been blacked out if it wasn't on NHLN or VS. You should only be blacked out from games in your viewing area (i.e If I try to watch the Avs play on Center Ice instead of Altitude here in Denver). If it happens again send me a PM and I will investigate this further.
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That's the problem Zach. When we call you guys, you never have an answer other than " I am not sure..." or "I am sorry, we'll look into it..."
Meanwhile we get screwed out of game and get no explanation. You guys move on to the next phone call.
We're not calling in for an apology. We're contacting your company for an ANSWER and more importantly a FIX so we can get what we paid for....
Now I do not intend to look as though I am shouting at you, however we as customers expect to be provided the service for which we have paid.
Simply put, your company agrees to provide certain services while we the customers agree to pay for them. We pay under your rules one month ahead of time or in the case of pay per view or sports packages, up front. That means YOU have OUR money. That also means YOU are obligated to fulfill your end of the deal without equivocation. When your company does not provide the services it promised we demand satisfaction. In most cases we do not. I revert to the opening of this post. "I am sorry, etc..."
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beavis4ever said:
So the $7/mo gets me the luxury to see these channels in my guide but I can't watch the programming. I just can't see how all these games could be blacked out the south central PA.

I watch hockey and could care less about other sports programming. It seems like Center Ice would be a waste too because all the games will be blacked out on there too.
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Welcome to Comcast Philly's world..
Back when the Philly and SE PA were served by Prism, the service was provided to some as over the air. FCC rules dictate that all CABLE broadcast signals must be provided to satellite providers. Prism maintained their system was exempt. This grandfathered over to Prism's purchase by Comcast. Comcast gets to keep the Flyers ,Sixers and Phillies games all to themselves. If you really want to watch the Flyers, I suggest you "move".....Ask around here, Others will tell you how it's done.
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Wolfjc's answer Item #2 on page 1, to wait a few days, solved my issue. A day or two later I was able to set the Wings vs Jets game to record. I wonder what causes future games on the CI SD channel to appear a day or two before it appears on the CI HD channel?

Yes, this year we have had more games on Dish in HD, but some have said when the NBA starts the CI HD selection will diminish. It doesn't affect me as there have been very, very few games the Wings are not in HD in the past. I know it will affect many others though if this is the case.
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I was wondering why every game is blacked out for me on 12/15. I just had my girlfriend add the sports pack and it was $7 a month I believe. So I am really wondering what we are paying for. This is what the game finder looks like for 17756.
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You are paying for access to everything the RSN's offer but the games. You are also paying for MLBN, NHLN, and NBATV, NFL, etc.

If you want to watch in-market NHL Action, you will need to watch it on your RSN. (Sorry NY and Philly)
If you want to watch a national cable-cast of NHL Action (NBC, VS, NHLN), you will need to watch it on that network.
If you want to watch any other NHL Action, you will need to subscribe to the Center Ice Package.

You'll likely be able to watch replays or tape-delays with the Sports Pack (either on the RSN or NHLN). You won't be able to watch the game live.


The Sports Pack is good for watch pre and post game shows, Bass-Masters, and to get national networks that may not be in your tier.


Cheers!
-Doug
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wolfjc said:
I have Dish and I don't really understand all this talk about the lack of HD on CI.
Other than the games out of Canada,other than NHL network,NY&NJ most of,if not all, games have at least ONE and most times TWO HD feeds.
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I don't know what you are smoking, but you have just excluded better than a third of the league in HD. The 7 Canadian Teams, and the 4 the four NY - NJ teams. Furthermore, some of the alternative feed announcers are really bad., on top of the fact Vs. announcers love to chit chat about b.s. that has nothing to do with the game being showed. No wonder the southern U.S. Markets teams have trouble. I am not with Dish any more, but have 15 dedicated channel slots for HD games on my t.v.
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That's the problem Zach. When we call you guys, you never have an answer other than " I am not sure..." or "I am sorry, we'll look into it..."
Meanwhile we get screwed out of game and get no explanation. You guys move on to the next phone call.
We're not calling in for an apology. We're contacting your company for an ANSWER and more importantly a FIX so we can get what we paid for....
Now I do not intend to look as though I am shouting at you, however we as customers expect to be provided the service for which we have paid.
Simply put, your company agrees to provide certain services while we the customers agree to pay for them. We pay under your rules one month ahead of time or in the case of pay per view or sports packages, up front. That means YOU have OUR money. That also means YOU are obligated to fulfill your end of the deal without equivocation. When your company does not provide the services it promised we demand satisfaction. In most cases we do not. I revert to the opening of this post. "I am sorry, etc..."
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I understand completely. It is something that I have experience with since I have ordered Center Ice as well as League Pass in the past before moving back to Colorado. If you have a problem with these please let me know.
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dishstaller
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At least 64 dead in Spanish passenger train collision

Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain<!-- --> | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain<!-- --> | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.
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Scott Greczkowski
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Show Don't Tell - Rush
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Show and Tell - Al Wilson
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On with the Show - The Rolling Stones
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The Show Must Go On - Pink Floyd
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If Love Must Go - Dobie Gray
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Scott Greczkowski
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in SiriusXM Satellite Radio

SiriusXM announces 25 Holiday Channels for 2026

Some of the channels start next week.

investor.siriusxm.com

SiriusXM Delivers the Soundtrack to the Holidays with Its Festive Lineup of 25 Handcrafted Seasonal Music Channels

Lineup features channels produced and presented by celebrated personalities and iconic brands, including Jimmy Fallon, Hallmark,…...
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My favorite is probably Holiday Pops.
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It's not even Halloween yet.
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Susan Saint James, Emmy-Winning Star of 'Kate & Allie' and 'McMillan & Wife,' Dies at 80

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Susan Saint James, Emmy-Winning Star of ‘Kate & Allie’ and ‘McMillan & Wife,’ Dies at 80

Susan Saint James, the Emmy-winning actress who starred in "Kate & Allie," died Monday after being diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. She was 80.
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Rest in peace.
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sdfntx
Sorry to hear this. R.I.P.
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R.I.P.
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My Mom was a huge McMillan & Wife fan.

RIP
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House Passes AM Radio For Every Vehicle Act

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House Passes AM Radio For Every Vehicle Act

(Washington, DC) - The U.S. House has passed the AM Radio for Every Vehicle Act, marking a major step forward for broadcasters and listeners who have pushed to keep AM radio available in new cars and
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It's probably been 2 decades since I've listened to an AM radio station. Very rarely listen to FM any more.
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dishdude said:
Very rarely listen to FM any more
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That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.
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That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.
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Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?
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Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?
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No, just regular FM stations. One is the country station I mentioned and the other is a Talk Radio station which used to get fantastic results but honestly, since the death of Rush Limbaugh, talk radio just doesn't do as well. There were two guys who had an early morning show which was hugely popular here in the southeast but one of them retired a couple years ago and the show just doesn't garner the same numbers as it used to.
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Haven't listened AM or FM in years
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Jimbo said:
If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?
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You knew the answer before you asked it.

I can't recall having encountered a local ad on Sirius, and I don't imagine it is any different on XM.
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Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum

DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 10/21/2026

The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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For those dazn nba channels are they sat only or sat & streaming
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Both, and they just made it official with a multiyear deal that also includes TV Everywhere authentication for the DAZN app, and commercial distribution.

DIRECTV, the premier provider of digital television entertainment in the United States, and DAZN, the world's leading sports entertainment platform, today announced a new multi-year distribution agreement for local telecasts of Cleveland Cavaliers, Indiana Pacers, Memphis Grizzlies, Minnesota Timberwolves, and San Antonio Spurs games for DIRECTV streaming, satellite, and U-verse customers in each team's respective NBA-designated home territories.

These DAZN telecasts will be available to DIRECTV customers who subscribe to the Choice or higher packages and to U-verse TV customers who subscribe to the U200 or higher package. Each of DAZN's team services provides live pregame, postgame, and in-game coverage for the respective team.

In the coming weeks, customers who receive access to these teams via DIRECTV will also be able to login to the DAZN platform at no additional cost using their DIRECTV login credentials.

This agreement also provides distribution rights to each of the five NBA teams to all of DIRECTV FOR BUSINESS' thousands of sports bars, restaurants, fitness clubs, and other commercial venues located within each team's respective region.
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DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Oct 28 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Oct 28 2026 vs Oct 21 2026:


No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

1 Transponder cleared of all Streams::
Net 15 TID 12 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 13

2 Previously unused Transponders with current APG records::
Net 0 TID 28 Beam NAT + PR is a National Transponder on D16@101, TPN 29
Net 10 TID 126 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D11@99cb, TPN 3

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
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HD​
264​
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1449​
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SD mpeg4​
144​
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194​
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SD mpeg2​
434​
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RB​
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Audio​
89​
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Push​
26​
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Slate​
19​
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TEST Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
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HD​
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SD mpeg4​
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SD mpeg2​
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RB​
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Engr Work​
38​
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The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files
A few remaps
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters
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Weekly Analysis for 10/28/2026:
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ElectionHQ mixes testing with BBC News, CNBC, CNN, FBN, FNC, MSNOW, NewsMax and NewsNation

Some more reshuffles

Updating the TMSIDs for KSBI and KQCW to use the cable feeds with Thunder games instead of the OTA feeds

An additional commercial PPV channel is now on 9530
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Amazon Echo Show 16: Now this is it!

Time for another AWESOME video from BoredAtWork!


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wVSqE_URJIo


Direct YouTube Link - Amazon Echo Show 16: Now this is it!
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Can You ACTUALLY Use the Mazda CX-90 PHEV As an Electric Commuter? | Baseline Challenge

Time for another AWESOME video from TFL Electric Vehicles!


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-HYgO5Lpa8


Direct YouTube Link - Can You ACTUALLY Use the Mazda CX-90 PHEV As an Electric Commuter? | Baseline Challenge
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Apple's All-New iPad mini

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtLJGwEtyT0


Direct YouTube Link - Apple's All-New iPad mini
TWIT's Website
TWIT Live Feed
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JSheridan
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

All DMA's now Western Arc

I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
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Strega said:
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
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Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
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Jimbo said:
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
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I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
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Mister B said:
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
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can't forget the little blue m&m's
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slow_poke_pete said:
can't forget the little blue m&m's
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That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!
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Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
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charlesrshell said:
That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!
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My gf is 29 years younger than me :shh
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telstar_1 said:
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
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He does not have the resources aka $$$ compared to Elon Musk as in reality, Elon can eat Charlie for lunch or even mop the floor with Charlie if he wanted to.
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ment to 20 yrs dam phone
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Dish should use both satellite and internet like they do now for all channels. Use either or or both.... like now but subscribers could choose something like internet only, or sat only, or both.
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BradleyD said:
Dish should use both satellite and internet like they do now for all channels. Use either or or both.... like now but subscribers could choose something like internet only, or sat only, or both.
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They have sling tv wich sucks ass it needs a major upgrade
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