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Last reply Mar 18, 2005 · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion

Fortec Star Lifetime Ultra cannot update bin file

Hi Everyone!

I am a newbie to this FTA stuff. I recently purchased a Fortec Star Lifetime Ultra receiver and I have been scanning all the forums and FAQ's to learn more about this hobby.

I noticed that you can update the firmware on the Fortec unit using a program that is downloadable from the Fortec site as well as the appropriate BIN file (in my case NTSC).

I am not having any success and keep getting the "download failed" message.

I tested the cable and it is a "straight through" 9 pin female-to-female serial cable.

I ran a port monitor on my COMM1 PC port and logged the transmission to the device.

When the error message from the Fortec software appears (after what I assume is a 30 second timeout), I hit the cancel button (instead of the retry button) and then my Fortec unit will re-boot itself. The update is not applied an it says it has the same firmware that it came with.

Any help would be appreciated.

I have attached the log file from the data transmission below…

0 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_CREATE Serial0 Options: Open
0 0.00005908 SUCCESS
1 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_TIMEOUTS Serial0 RI:-1 RM:0 RC:0 WM:0 WC:5000
1 0.00000166 SUCCESS
2 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_GET_BAUD_RATE Serial0
2 0.00000103 SUCCESS
3 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_GET_LINE_CONTROL Serial0
3 0.00000113 SUCCESS
4 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_GET_CHARS Serial0
4 0.00000088 SUCCESS
5 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_GET_HANDFLOW Serial0
5 0.00000103 SUCCESS
6 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_GET_BAUD_RATE Serial0
6 0.00000091 SUCCESS
7 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_GET_LINE_CONTROL Serial0
7 0.00000093 SUCCESS
8 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_GET_CHARS Serial0
8 0.00000086 SUCCESS
9 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_GET_HANDFLOW Serial0
9 0.00000086 SUCCESS
10 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_BAUD_RATE Serial0 Rate: 115200
10 0.00001003 SUCCESS
11 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_RTS Serial0
11 0.00000514 SUCCESS
12 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_DTR Serial0
12 0.00000482 SUCCESS
13 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_LINE_CONTROL Serial0 StopBits: 1 Parity: NONE WordLength: 8
13 0.00000318 SUCCESS
14 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_CHAR Serial0 EOF:0 ERR:0 BRK:0 EVT:0 XON:11 XOFF:13
14 0.00000112 SUCCESS
15 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_HANDFLOW Serial0 Shake:1 Replace:40 XonLimit:2048 XoffLimit:512
15 0.00000335 SUCCESS
16 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_QUEUE_SIZE Serial0 InSize: 10000 OutSize: 10000
16 0.00000318 SUCCESS
17 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_PURGE Serial0 Purge: TXABORT RXABORT TXCLEAR RXCLEAR
17 0.00000250 SUCCESS
18 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
18 0.00002386 SUCCESS
19 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_GET_COMMSTATUS Serial0
19 0.00000208 SUCCESS
20 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
20 0.00004681 SUCCESS
21 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_GET_COMMSTATUS Serial0
21 0.00000109 SUCCESS
22 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
22 0.00002757 SUCCESS
23 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: 3
23 0.00007976 SUCCESS
24 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
24 0.00008052 SUCCESS
25 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: L
25 0.00008138 SUCCESS
26 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: i
26 0.00008029 SUCCESS
27 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: f
27 0.00008063 SUCCESS
28 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: e
28 0.00008065 SUCCESS
29 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: t
29 0.00008113 SUCCESS
30 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: i
30 0.00008103 SUCCESS
31 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: m
31 0.00008105 SUCCESS
32 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: e
32 0.00008000 SUCCESS
33 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1:
33 0.00008140 SUCCESS
34 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: U
34 0.00008083 SUCCESS
35 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: l
35 0.00008095 SUCCESS
36 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: t
36 0.00008031 SUCCESS
37 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: r
37 0.00008137 SUCCESS
38 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: a
38 0.00008083 SUCCESS
39 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
39 0.00008064 SUCCESS
40 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: b
40 0.00008055 SUCCESS
41 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: i
41 0.00008167 SUCCESS
42 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: n
42 0.00008067 SUCCESS
43 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: )
43 0.00008051 SUCCESS
44 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
44 0.00008071 SUCCESS
45 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: *
45 0.00008145 SUCCESS
46 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
46 0.00008045 SUCCESS
47 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: b
47 0.00008094 SUCCESS
48 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: i
48 0.00008058 SUCCESS
49 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: n
49 0.00008154 SUCCESS
50 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
50 0.00008072 SUCCESS
51 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: A
51 0.00008062 SUCCESS
52 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: l
52 0.00008068 SUCCESS
53 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: l
53 0.00008140 SUCCESS
54 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1:
54 0.00008062 SUCCESS
55 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: F
55 0.00008064 SUCCESS
56 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: i
56 0.00008071 SUCCESS
57 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
57 0.00008155 SUCCESS
58 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
58 0.00008061 SUCCESS
59 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
59 0.00008032 SUCCESS
60 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
60 0.00008101 SUCCESS
61 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
61 0.00008138 SUCCESS
62 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
62 0.00008065 SUCCESS
63 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
63 0.00008072 SUCCESS
64 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
64 0.00008049 SUCCESS
65 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
65 0.00008142 SUCCESS
66 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
66 0.00008090 SUCCESS
67 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
67 0.00008069 SUCCESS
68 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
68 0.00008067 SUCCESS
69 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
69 0.00008146 SUCCESS
70 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
70 0.00008083 SUCCESS
71 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
71 0.00008021 SUCCESS
72 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
72 0.00008106 SUCCESS
73 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
73 0.00008139 SUCCESS
74 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
74 0.00008068 SUCCESS
75 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
75 0.00008072 SUCCESS
76 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: ~
76 0.00008056 SUCCESS
77 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_GET_COMMSTATUS Serial0
77 0.00000165 SUCCESS
78 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_GET_COMMSTATUS Serial0
78 0.00000108 SUCCESS
79 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_GET_COMMSTATUS Serial0
79 0.00000108 SUCCESS

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472502 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_GET_COMMSTATUS Serial0
472502 0.00000141 SUCCESS
472503 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_GET_COMMSTATUS Serial0
472503 0.00000151 SUCCESS
472504 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
472504 0.00002570 SUCCESS
472505 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: 3
472505 0.00007371 SUCCESS
472506 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
472506 0.00007609 SUCCESS
472507 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: L
472507 0.00007198 SUCCESS
472508 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: i
472508 0.00007540 SUCCESS
472509 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: f
472509 0.00007735 SUCCESS
472510 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: e
472510 0.00007284 SUCCESS
472511 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: t
472511 0.00007680 SUCCESS
472512 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: i
472512 0.00007486 SUCCESS
472513 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: m
472513 0.00007674 SUCCESS
472514 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: e
472514 0.00006382 SUCCESS
472515 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1:
472515 0.00006447 SUCCESS
472516 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: U
472516 0.00007245 SUCCESS
472517 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: l
472517 0.00007227 SUCCESS
472518 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: t
472518 0.00007465 SUCCESS
472519 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: r
472519 0.00007485 SUCCESS
472520 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: a
472520 0.00006680 SUCCESS
472521 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
472521 0.00006757 SUCCESS
472522 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: b
472522 0.00006556 SUCCESS
472523 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: i
472523 0.00007849 SUCCESS
472524 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: n
472524 0.00006465 SUCCESS
472525 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: )
472525 0.00006859 SUCCESS
472526 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
472526 0.00006877 SUCCESS
472527 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: *
472527 0.00006551 SUCCESS
472528 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
472528 0.00006531 SUCCESS
472529 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: b
472529 0.00006522 SUCCESS
472530 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: i
472530 0.00007902 SUCCESS
472531 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: n
472531 0.00006119 SUCCESS
472532 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
472532 0.00006176 SUCCESS
472533 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: A
472533 0.00007270 SUCCESS
472534 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: l
472534 0.00006829 SUCCESS
472535 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: l
472535 0.00006983 SUCCESS
472536 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1:
472536 0.00006420 SUCCESS
472537 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: F
472537 0.00007519 SUCCESS
472538 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: i
472538 0.00007409 SUCCESS
472539 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
472539 0.00007596 SUCCESS
472540 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
472540 0.00007379 SUCCESS
472541 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
472541 0.00007541 SUCCESS
472542 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
472542 0.00007492 SUCCESS
472543 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
472543 0.00007348 SUCCESS
472544 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
472544 0.00007476 SUCCESS
472545 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
472545 0.00007578 SUCCESS
472546 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
472546 0.00007598 SUCCESS
472547 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
472547 0.00007407 SUCCESS
472548 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
472548 0.00007539 SUCCESS
472549 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
472549 0.00007505 SUCCESS
472550 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
472550 0.00007561 SUCCESS
472551 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
472551 0.00007480 SUCCESS
472552 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
472552 0.00007640 SUCCESS
472553 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
472553 0.00007322 SUCCESS
472554 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
472554 0.00007769 SUCCESS
472555 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
472555 0.00007357 SUCCESS
472556 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
472556 0.00007586 SUCCESS
472557 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: .
472557 0.00007579 SUCCESS
472558 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_WRITE Serial0 Length 1: ~
472558 0.00007386 SUCCESS
472559 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_GET_COMMSTATUS Serial0
472559 0.00000287 SUCCESS

<duplicate lines deleted>

472597 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_GET_COMMSTATUS Serial0
472597 0.00000143 SUCCESS
472598 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_READ Serial0 Length 1
472598 0.00000405 SUCCESS Length 1: .
472599 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_GET_COMMSTATUS Serial0
472599 0.00000155 SUCCESS
472600 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_READ Serial0 Length 1
472600 0.00000303 SUCCESS Length 1: .
472601 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_GET_COMMSTATUS Serial0
472601 0.00000149 SUCCESS
472602 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_READ Serial0 Length 1
472602 0.00000285 SUCCESS Length 1: .
472603 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_GET_COMMSTATUS Serial0
472603 0.00000169 SUCCESS
472604 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_READ Serial0 Length 1
472604 0.00000280 SUCCESS Length 1: .
472605 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_GET_COMMSTATUS Serial0
472605 0.00000152 SUCCESS
472606 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_READ Serial0 Length 1
472606 0.00000279 SUCCESS Length 1: |
472607 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_GET_COMMSTATUS Serial0
472607 0.00000146 SUCCESS

<duplicate lines deleted>

637641 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_GET_COMMSTATUS Serial0
637641 0.00000137 SUCCESS
637642 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_GET_COMMSTATUS Serial0
642764 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_PURGE Serial0 Purge: TXABORT RXABORT TXCLEAR RXCLEAR
642764 0.00000624 SUCCESS
642765 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IOCTL_SERIAL_SET_WAIT_MASK Serial0 Mask:
642765 0.00000224 SUCCESS
642766 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_CLEANUP Serial0
642766 0.00000262 SUCCESS
642767 0.00000000 Fortecstar STB IRP_MJ_CLOSE Serial0
642767 0.00900396 SUCCESS

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SatelliteAV

Mar 18, 2005

Is this a new model with the RS 232 connector not attached to the rear panel and came packaged in the carton with the brown cardboard interior rather than the white?

snathanb

Mar 18, 2005

Boozekeg... sorry you haven't got many replies.

Since the receiver is new, and you are trying to update the factory firmware, I would suggest you contact the manufacturer or your vendor for support.

I think people haven't responded to your request because when other people have asked this question, it is usually related to how to load a bin file on their receiver to engage in signal theft. I know nothing of your intentions, nor am I making any judgements or accusations. Simply some persective as to why you may have not received many replies.

Perhaps if you clarify what you are trying to accomplish, we can be of more help!

Cascade

Mar 18, 2005

snathanb said:
I think people haven't responded to your request because when other people have asked this question, it is usually related to how to load a bin file on their receiver to engage in signal theft.

I didn't respond quickly because it took me 4 hours to scroll down the error messages.

Try a different serial cable or wait for someone who has one of these units.
If all else fails, email Fortec for a solution, if you're trying to load a hacked BIN file it'll kill your receiver and you'll have to RMA it to Fortec who report any illegal Dish Network key flash attempts to the authorities and they'll take away your legs and two fingers of their choice.

Wholeshoe

Mar 18, 2005

You said you have a striaght RS232 cable.... Usually you would need a Null Modem cable to talk to another piece of equipment.

Wholeshoe

snathanb

Mar 18, 2005

Wholeshoe said:
You said you have a striaght RS232 cable.... Usually you would need a Null Modem cable to talk to another piece of equipment.

Wholeshoe

Mine works fine with a serial (non-null). I used one to organize my FTA Channel Lists on the same receiver.

dfergie

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Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
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Bobby

Thursday at 11:20 AM

Regular$6.099
Premium$6.599
Diesel$7.999
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

Bobby

Today at 10:27 AM

Regular$5.999
Premium$6.399
Diesel$7.999
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

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harshness

Today at 11:30 AM

I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

dishstaller

Today at 12:32 PM

Bobby said:
Regular$5.999
Premium$6.399

Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.

Last night it was about $4.17 gas, $6,19 diesel.

harshness

24 minutes ago

dishstaller said:
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.

On the West Coast, a 40-cent differential is common. It used to be 30 cents before the prices rose above $3.

A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic), which is a whole different discussion.

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klang

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Star Trek: Starfleet Academy - Paramount+

Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.

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klang

Jul 28, 2025

I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.

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klang

Oct 11, 2026

klang said:
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.

Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.

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MikeD-C05

Oct 11, 2026

klang said:
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.

Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.

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harshness

Tuesday at 11:28 AM

MikeD-C05 said:
I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.

Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?

MikeD-C05

Today at 12:51 PM

harshness said:
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?

There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.

harshness

28 minutes ago

MikeD-C05 said:
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.

Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.

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JohnGalt1234

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H3 EHD lists upcoming airings instead of recordings on EHD and often won't recognize EHD is connected after reboot

This started a couple months ago. I have 2 H3s on one network, both with 2 EHD identical 3 TB seperately powered so all recordings are accessible by all 4k & J4s (8 of them).

On one H3 (not the main one that controls the MOCA network), after it reboots, it doesn't recognize it has two EHDs plugged into it. Rebooting the EHD by their power source doesn't fix it. Resetting the network doesn't. Software h3 reset doesn't fix it. Rebooting MOCA h3 doesn't fix it but so far, after 3+ cold boots (unplug pwr to H3 with unrecognized EHDs), it finally it figures out they are plugged into it. BUT.... Then when you open a program it only partially shows series and episodes, but instead of showing recordings, it only shows upcoming airings. HELP!!!!

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navychop

Yesterday at 3:40 PM

It'll only see two EHDs at a time.

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 7:18 PM

JohnGalt1234 - So you basically have 2 Hopper 3's. The CasinoH3 is the one that is Hopper 3 only while Master Bedroom is a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup.
Master Bedroom uses Android TV (ATV) software so the DISH part is actually a app and will behave differently as you can probably tell the Guide's are different on the Master Bedroom which will resemble the same guide used on other ATV devices such as the Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4. If I am correct, the CasinoH3 is the one with the problem since you did say the one dated 09/05/2026 is the naughty one while 08/15/2026 named Master Bedroom is the nice one. Usually I would expect the CasinoH3 to be the one without the problem because it's Hopper 3 only and Master Bedroom would be the one with problems because it has the Hopper Plus involved. That is why they behave differently because CasinoH3 is running the native Hopper 3 software while Master Bedroom is running the Android TV software and also it runs a app called DISH known as package com.dish.atv.launcher, the version for mines is P15403 2026100917 so it's probably the same version as the Hopper Plus software version with the date of October 9, 2026, not sure what the 17 means except maybe revision 17?

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JohnGalt1234

Yesterday at 9:02 PM

Almighty1 said:
JohnGalt1234 - So you basically have 2 Hopper 3's. The CasinoH3 is the one that is Hopper 3 only while Master Bedroom is a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup.
Master Bedroom uses Android TV (ATV) software so the DISH part is actually a app and will behave differently as you can probably tell the Guide's are different on the Master Bedroom which will resemble the same guide used on other ATV devices such as the Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4. If I am correct, the CasinoH3 is the one with the problem since you did say the one dated 09/05/2026 is the naughty one while 08/15/2026 named Master Bedroom is the nice one. Usually I would expect the CasinoH3 to be the one without the problem because it's Hopper 3 only and Master Bedroom would be the one with problems because it has the Hopper Plus involved. That is why they behave differently because CasinoH3 is running the native Hopper 3 software while Master Bedroom is running the Android TV software and also it runs a app called DISH known as package com.dish.atv.launcher, the version for mines is P15403 2026100917 so it's probably the same version as the Hopper Plus software version with the date of October 9, 2026, not sure what the 17 means except maybe revision 17?

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As I understand it, the android is just the display signal from the hopper+. I can disconnect the H+ and plug the hdmi directly into the master hopper3.

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Almighty1

Today at 12:02 AM

JohnGalt1234 said:
As I understand it, the android is just the display signal from the hopper+. I can disconnect the H+ and plug the hdmi directly into the master hopper3.

It is not just a display signal as explained above. When you have the Hopper+ connected, it uses Android TV for pretty much everything except for the satellite signal which is why it uses the DISH app for the standard Hopper 3 functions. But that should not matter because in your case, CasinoH3 is the Hopper 3 with the EHD which is what you call the naughty one based on the dates you mentioned and Master Bedroom which has the Hopper Plus connected to the Hopper 3 that does not have the problem. So one way to test the theory is disconnect the Hopper Plus from that Hopper 3 and then use the EHD's connected to CasinoH3 currently to see if the same issue exists. That way you will know if the problem is there without a Hopper Plus connected or if CasinoH3 is just a bad hopper to begin with.

Normally when you disconnect the Hopper Plus, it will be 30 minutes or more before you can use the Hopper 3 again.

What you want to do is:
hold the POWER button in, not the red reset button, for about 45 seconds or so while disconnecting the power to the Plus and moving the HDMI cable and it will reboot to the normal Hopper only immediately.

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bookworm370

47 minutes ago

navychop said:
It'll only see two EHDs at a time.

Yes, I have only two online at a time.
One comes online, the other one consistently will not come online

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bookworm370

39 minutes ago

bookworm370 said:
Yes, I have only two online at a time.
One comes online; the other consistently won't. Also, when I connect the EHD, the USB Detected status light on the EHD itself changes from Red to Green. But the Hopper (713) does not start the EHD read process. The light changes to indicate that the EHD has detected a valid USB cable, but the Hopper does not recognize it.

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Today at 1:12 PM · posted in iJustine

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Today at 1:12 PM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

OpenAI Sued by 8 U.S. States

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Peter Parker

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Last reply Today at 1:01 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

DISH Hopper 3 Software Version 713 Is Out

No idea what improvements might be involved.

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bookworm370

Yesterday at 3:17 PM

Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.

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reubenray

Yesterday at 6:40 PM

I got the 713 update yesterday.

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naptime

Today at 1:05 AM

I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

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reubenray

Today at 6:14 AM

bookworm370 said:
Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.

My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.

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Bobby

Today at 10:32 AM

naptime said:
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

This has been an ongoing issue. A fix is coming, probably in the next software version.

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dishstaller

Today at 1:01 PM

reubenray said:
My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning.

Had a customer call recently saying their remote was really acting up, some buttons no longer functioned. Told them to reboot the Hopper....problem fixed.
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"

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telebiker

Last reply Today at 12:54 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Hopper and Dish Hopper Plus No Alexa in settings

I have Dish Hopper and Hopper Plus and also have Alexa Echo. I link the Alex skill to Dish and it asks me to enter the pairing code shown on the TV. I go into Dish Settings and there is no Alexa shown. Not sure what to do.

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HipKat

Mar 15, 2026

Guys,
Android is Google. Google is Android. Android OS and Google TV are the same thing.
The Hopper+ and Joey 4's run Android TV, which is Google's television version of Android.
That means under the hood, you have:

Linux kernel
Android framework
Google TV / Android TV interface
Google Play Store for TV apps

Alexa is the competition. Google is not going to host their competition.
The old Hopper Carbon UI is NOT Google so that's why Alexa was on there.

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Harryhaggle

Mar 18, 2026

Understood. But here's the rub - Google Assistant setup is ALSO missing from the Hopper Plus setup. I'm a paraplegic.and need to use voice controls as much as possible but I can't press a button on the remote to activate Google Assistant. I prefer ALEXA (or ALEXA+) but I have one older google device and will go that route IF they make it available. BTW calling Dish Customer Service is no help- they just say they have no info on if/when there will be an update.

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navychop

Mar 18, 2026

Ungood.

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reubenray

Today at 10:17 AM

What is the purpose of connecting Alexa and the H3?

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navychop

Today at 12:54 PM

Tell Alexa verbally what to do.

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Last reply Today at 12:39 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

AI thread

A continuation of a thread from the pub, just general discussion of AI.

Brief 60 minute clip about next gem autonomous fighters - not remote controlled, but rather collaborating with controllers and aircraft in the theater.

View: https://youtu.be/DRm0mbp_n1k

We've literally got a movie already about this

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meStevo

Oct 9, 2026

Agreed, it mostly regurgitates known solutions. That's the point. Nobody needs an innovative fix for a driver error or a creative way to format a report. Let it handle the solved problems so people can spend their time on the ones that aren't.

harshness

Oct 9, 2026

meStevo said:
Agreed, it mostly regurgitates known solutions. That's the point.

That's the point at which innovation ends, and there's no longer any point to software engineering other than swatting bugs that result from misapplication.

meStevo

Oct 9, 2026

harshness said:
That's the point at which innovation ends, and there's no longer any point to software engineering other than swatting bugs that result from misapplication.

Addressed by what you didn't quote. This cycle is as old as computing: compilers, libraries, frameworks each automated the tedious part, and the human work moved up a level. Innovation didn't end; it shifted. And people still make new compilers, libraries or frameworks.

Nobody's forced to hand anything off. Anyone who wants to keep doing it by hand still can, and people who couldn't do it at all now can.

harshness

Oct 9, 2026

meStevo said:
... and people who couldn't do it at all now can.

Misapplication isn't something that the casual coder can identify. They can only discover, the hard way, that it doesn't work at some point.

meStevo

Oct 9, 2026

harshness said:
Misapplication isn't something that the casual coder can identify. They can only discover, the hard way, that it doesn't work at some point.

You're not wrong, but that's part of learning. Whether from others or our own mistakes, we've all learned that lesson one way or another.

harshness

Oct 9, 2026

meStevo said:
Whether from others or our own mistakes, we've all learned that lesson one way or another.

I'm not sure that the school of hard knocks is the quickest or surest education to find your way.

There are many examples in the headlines of people getting burned multiple times and not wavering in their pursuit of stupidity.

meStevo

Oct 9, 2026

harshness said:
I'm not sure that the school of hard knocks is the quickest or surest education to find your way.

Good thing not everyone will have to learn the hard way then. The same tools can explain why something broke.

harshness said:
There are many examples in the headlines of people getting burned multiple times and not wavering in their pursuit of stupidity.

This is true of literally anything, though.

Happy to agree to disagree, but I'm already enjoying the dividends personally and helping others at work and at home do the same.

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harshness

Oct 9, 2026

meStevo said:
This is true of literally anything, though.

Do you think that means we ought to be supporting it as the long-term solution?

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Monday at 11:01 PM

Foxbat

Yesterday at 9:36 PM

Oops.

AI Agent Blamed for Deleting Entire Upcoming Season of TV Show

An AI agent reportedly deleted the entire final cut of the upcoming season of a Swedish reality competition show.

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dishstaller

Today at 10:05 AM

Been reading this thread but not commenting much, primarily because there is so much "news" out there on this topic and it is hard to tell what is real and what is theater.
My biggest problem with AI is that these agents are taught...not necessarily programmed but taught. Well, there's an old saying "garbage in/garbage out". I remember a Joe Rogan show a while back when he had Elon Musk on and they talked about AI and Elon said one of the AIs (can't remember which one, sorry) was asked which was worse, Thermonuclear War or mis-gendering Kaitlyn Jenner and it came back with the answer that mis-gendering was worse. Now forget the politics involved with all the gender stuff we have been subjected to the past few years.....to say that mis-gendering is worse than the killing of hundreds of millions, perhaps billions of human beings.....Kaitlyn Jenner included.....is simply insane not to mention incredibly dangerous.

dishstaller

Today at 12:39 PM

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