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Something I noticed is that sometimes the Azbox will indicate that it found new transponders, but at the end of the scan it shows 0 channels found. I was saying NO when it asked if I really wanted to save channels because there weren't any. I noticed if I tell it to save anyway it saves the transponders, and I can sometimes do a transponder scan on the transponers it found, and then it will find the channels.
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AcWxRadar
Pittsville,

This is a problem that I have observed, too.

I can only guess as to the reason why, but I think that when it completes the blind scan and logs the TPs, it goes immediately to the channel scan but doesn't wait for the tuner to lock in to the TP signals. Sometimes it does and sometimes it misses that first TP lock. I think that if it misses the first TP lock, it misses all the TPs for the entire scan duration and just zips through with nothing found.

When this happens, I select "SAVE ALL CHANNELS" even though none were shown as being logged in and then perform a "SATELLITE SCAN" which picks up the channels.

I think that the system gets "slow" or busy with what it was initially doing with the blind scan and doesn't wait for the tuner to LOCK onto the first TP signal, so then it just breezes through the scan for channels before it can ever lock onto a signal. i.e. "Didn't detect a signal, move on to the next TP, didn't see any signal, move on to the next and so on and so forth."

Since it doesn't always respond this way, I have tried to determine what might be different from one blind scan to the next. I think it might have something to do with the first TP found during the blind scan. If it is a weak signal because it is a fringe beam or because the dish/motor isn't optimally aligned or if it is an S2 signal that demands a strong signal quality for the tuner to lock it may just foul the whole scan process.

I have also observed that even when doing a TP scan or even when fooling around with my motor alignment, it takes a few seconds for the signal to lock. If the delay to LOCK onto a signal is too long, then it will pass it by. So this could be another reason why it does not pick up the channels.

I do believe that the above reasons, if they are indeed the root of the problem, can be overcome with firmware upgrades. Of course, that is if OpenSat would address them.

Since the firmware is open source, anyone with the Linux programming knowledge can write codes for these boxes (one of the advantages that brought me to the AZBox). Possibly, in the future, someone will write a better firmware that befits our use and resolves some of these conflicts.

RADAR
J
Pittsville,

This is a problem that I have observed, too.

I can only guess as to the reason why, but I think that when it completes the blind scan and logs the TPs, it goes immediately to the channel scan but doesn't wait for the tuner to lock in to the TP signals. Sometimes it does and sometimes it misses that first TP lock. I think that if it misses the first TP lock, it misses all the TPs for the entire scan duration and just zips through with nothing found.

When this happens, I select "SAVE ALL CHANNELS" even though none were shown as being logged in and then perform a "SATELLITE SCAN" which picks up the channels.

I think that the system gets "slow" or busy with what it was initially doing with the blind scan and doesn't wait for the tuner to LOCK onto the first TP signal, so then it just breezes through the scan for channels before it can ever lock onto a signal. i.e. "Didn't detect a signal, move on to the next TP, didn't see any signal, move on to the next and so on and so forth."

Since it doesn't always respond this way, I have tried to determine what might be different from one blind scan to the next. I think it might have something to do with the first TP found during the blind scan. If it is a weak signal because it is a fringe beam or because the dish/motor isn't optimally aligned or if it is an S2 signal that demands a strong signal quality for the tuner to lock it may just foul the whole scan process.

I have also observed that even when doing a TP scan or even when fooling around with my motor alignment, it takes a few seconds for the signal to lock. If the delay to LOCK onto a signal is too long, then it will pass it by. So this could be another reason why it does not pick up the channels.

I do believe that the above reasons, if they are indeed the root of the problem, can be overcome with firmware upgrades. Of course, that is if OpenSat would address them.

Since the firmware is open source, anyone with the Linux programming knowledge can write codes for these boxes (one of the advantages that brought me to the AZBox). Possibly, in the future, someone will write a better firmware that befits our use and resolves some of these conflicts.

RADAR

Good info Radar, I've had this experience many times, when this happens again I'll try "Save All Channels" and see what occurs, instead of Not Saving.
mr3p
I've definitely experienced the same thing and often wondered about the cause. At one point I thought it might have something to do with the total number of transponders or possibly transponders at too close of a frequency although I really don't know. My solution has generally been to go back and manually select and scan those transponders with signal after the blindscan which usually works.
Keith Brannen
I have noticed the odd transponder missing channels in the blind scan, but for the most part it gets them. My Pansat scans the horizontal found frequencies for channels first, and then switches to the vertical. With the AZBox method of scan, from lowest to highest frequency, regardless of polarity, I wonder whether the constant voltage switching for horizontal/vertical as it progresses through the frequencies could contribute to missing channels, as any slight hesitation in switching polarities might cause it not to remain checking the frequency quite long enough (and we all know that when just changing channels, the AZBox certainly isn't the fastest).
V
Pittsville,

This is a problem that I have observed, too.

I can only guess as to the reason why, but I think that when it completes the blind scan and logs the TPs, it goes immediately to the channel scan but doesn't wait for the tuner to lock in to the TP signals. Sometimes it does and sometimes it misses that first TP lock. I think that if it misses the first TP lock, it misses all the TPs for the entire scan duration and just zips through with nothing found.

When this happens, I select "SAVE ALL CHANNELS" even though none were shown as being logged in and then perform a "SATELLITE SCAN" which picks up the channels.

I think that the system gets "slow" or busy with what it was initially doing with the blind scan and doesn't wait for the tuner to LOCK onto the first TP signal, so then it just breezes through the scan for channels before it can ever lock onto a signal. i.e. "Didn't detect a signal, move on to the next TP, didn't see any signal, move on to the next and so on and so forth."

Since it doesn't always respond this way, I have tried to determine what might be different from one blind scan to the next. I think it might have something to do with the first TP found during the blind scan. If it is a weak signal because it is a fringe beam or because the dish/motor isn't optimally aligned or if it is an S2 signal that demands a strong signal quality for the tuner to lock it may just foul the whole scan process.

I have also observed that even when doing a TP scan or even when fooling around with my motor alignment, it takes a few seconds for the signal to lock. If the delay to LOCK onto a signal is too long, then it will pass it by. So this could be another reason why it does not pick up the channels.

I do believe that the above reasons, if they are indeed the root of the problem, can be overcome with firmware upgrades. Of course, that is if OpenSat would address them.

Since the firmware is open source, anyone with the Linux programming knowledge can write codes for these boxes (one of the advantages that brought me to the AZBox). Possibly, in the future, someone will write a better firmware that befits our use and resolves some of these conflicts.

RADAR

Efectively, there is an open source project (Open Pli) at the moment. I have tried thier first image and find it very good. Lots of people have expressed similar opinions. The good thing is that they have nightly builds with correct bugs as they are reported.
2.OpenPLi - Open Source Set-Top Box Software
K
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Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
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K
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
K
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
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Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.
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harshness
I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
MikeD-C05
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.
harshness
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
MikeD-C05
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
dfergie
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Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
Source Gateworld
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dfergie
S3 Ep22 Nemesis & S4 Ep1 Small Victories...
long_time_Dish
S3 Ep22 Nemesis & S4 Ep1 Small Victories...
Two of my favorite Replicator episodes. :)
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The Tokra pt 1, I know pt 2 will be next...
(came across on Pluto tv live, went to media server for "clean" version)
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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dishdude
They didn't sell many, they were pricey and not out long. Quickly got replaced by the Hopper.
T
They were high-end specialty, somewhat buggy and the 612/622/722 just overwhelmed it in popularity.
HipKat
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
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Well if it is because of reliability that wouldnt shock me.I went through 5 or 6 of them in little over 2 years. I loved the Sling when it worked! Saved lots of money having it in the day. That was probably 15 or 16 years ago?
T
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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TAKE IT As It Comes-The Doors
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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
The two instances of "The" should have been highlighted.

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Me to the River - Talking Heads
dishstaller
Blinded By The Light - Manfred Mann's Earth Band
Bobby
I Saw The Light - Todd Rundgren
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
meStevo
Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


View: https://x.com/RapSheet/status/2111074303185989663?s=20
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Browns lead the AFC North 🤣

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Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Was down due to an emergency update at the ISP. They did email me seconds before they took it down and apologized for the short notice.

However once the server was back online NGINX failed to start.

I was at the grocery store and just rebooted the entire server and everything came back up again.

Just got home from the grocery store I will bring in the groceries and then take a look at what NGINX failed the first time.
comfortably_numb
Was down due to an emergency update at the ISP. They did email me seconds before they took it down and apologized for the short notice.

However once the server was back online NGINX failed to start.

I was at the grocery store and just rebooted the entire server and everything came back up again.

Just got home from the grocery store I will bring in the groceries and then take a look at what NGINX failed the first time.

NGINX
The site uses Nugenix?!


View: https://youtu.be/_DhEEo5S9fg
Scott Greczkowski
Ok checked it out and for some reason the web server (NGINX) tried starting before the DNS resolver fully loaded. This is why it worked when I rebooted the machine.

Thanks to ChatGPT it had me change the NGINX config to prevent this from happening again.

With that said I can't prevent the ISP from doing emergency upgrades which was the cause of all of this.
navychop
Nature will develop better idiots.
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Nature will develop better idiots.
God help us.
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I guess this is what the downtime was about.

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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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They ought to have fun with this… :devilish
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They ought to have fun with this… :devilish
Was thinking same thing. It should be a good week for sec shorts and roll call
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A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.
Foxbat
Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
No idea what improvements might be involved.
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bookworm370
Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.
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Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"
Here's the one I need:
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dishstaller
Here's the one I need:
Just ordered one....that's great.
jsmit86
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.