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dwarren2

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Last reply Mar 31, 2012 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Outrageous cost to upgrade!!

Also posted this in the Upgrade thread.

OMG!!! I've been with Dish for over 14 years, auto pay and Top 250. I PM'd Mary to see what my cost to upgrades to a 2/3 H/J system and here's her return message

"Hi, I am sorry I did not a chance to respond to you earlier. I have reviewed your account and to upgrade to a 2 Hopper and 3 Joey installation at this time would cost $700. It would be $200.00 for each Hopper and $100.00 for each Joey. I am not sure where we will be when the OTA is released but I hope we will have better news for you on the costs associated with he Hopper upgrade. Thank you!"

Is this a way to treat a long term customer. I'm retired and as much as I'd like to upgrade, there is no way I can afford that.

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dwarren2

Mar 17, 2012

Never had any credits, that I know of except that I accepted an offer FROM Dish for free Platinum. Never late because I've been on auto/paperless billing for years. Except for my original set up with Dish when I bought my 1st 2 receivers from Grady's in NH, I've been on leased equipment every since. I know of no reason why I would be on the S**T list. AS much as I'd like to upgrade, at this cost, I'll stay with my 722/211 system.

Voyager6

Mar 17, 2012

dwarren2 said:
Never had any credits, that I know of except that I accepted an offer FROM Dish for free Platinum. Never late because I've been on auto/paperless billing for years. Except for my original set up with Dish when I bought my 1st 2 receivers from Grady's in NH, I've been on leased equipment every since. I know of no reason why I would be on the S**T list. AS much as I'd like to upgrade, at this cost, I'll stay with my 722/211 system.

I wouldn't let them off that easy. I would demand a reason for the high upgrade cost. That would let you know how E* "values" you as a customer.

Mike Russo

Mar 17, 2012

Voyager6 said:
I wouldn't let them off that easy. I would demand a reason for the high upgrade cost. That would let you know how E* "values" you as a customer.

I'm the one who posted in another thread how a supervisor finally admitted that my account had "received credits unavailable to others" and was thus ineligible. Pretty disgusting that they penalize existing customers like this. And trust me, after dealing with over half a dozen reps (including their "DIRT" team) they really don't care if you leave. If you received credits (let's call them Dish LOANS instead) then you are not getting the discount.

navychop

Mar 29, 2012

BB@Home is only compatible with the ViP6xx & ViP722 series. It is not compatible with the ViP922.

Hotinco

Mar 31, 2012

I had the same problem, ask for Customer Retention. I got mine for $25.00 installed

Dish reakly needs to buy a clue. They give a new customer Discounted service and a free Hopper system. WHat they are really saying is please go to direct tv we don't want our exisiting customers, we want ne customersw. As I explained to Custoemr Retention, they spend alot of money to get new customers, they want me to sign a new 2 year cpntract and pay them $100.00, something wrong with that marketing plan. Exisitng customers should ALWAYS get free upgrade on leased equipment for signing a new 2 year contract.

Jonhern

Mar 31, 2012

Hotinco said:
I had the same problem, ask for Customer Retention. I got mine for $25.00 installed

Dish reakly needs to buy a clue. They give a new customer Discounted service and a free Hopper system. WHat they are really saying is please go to direct tv we don't want our exisiting customers, we want ne customersw. As I explained to Custoemr Retention, they spend alot of money to get new customers, they want me to sign a new 2 year cpntract and pay them $100.00, something wrong with that marketing plan. Exisitng customers should ALWAYS get free upgrade on leased equipment for signing a new 2 year contract.

Exactly what i was saying, i got the $200 quote, but that is not a good deal and so I left to Fios. It makes no sense to me to pay to upgrade, plus sign a contract with no discounts. Why would I pay dish to lock me in for 2 years? Maybe $200 and i stayed out of contract, but even that is pushing it, its not like phones where you own the phone, its not like I can take the boxes with me if I leave, dish does not throw them away, they use them for another customer. So this whole, well the box costs this much, and that, so what, they are not rendered unusable after a customer leaves, dish is not losing anything, they clean them up and reuse them. And then seeing how they treat long time customers. Why would I want to stay with you if I can see how poorly you treat others who have been with you for over a decade?

domingos35

Mar 31, 2012

Jonhern said:
Exactly what i was saying, i got the $200 quote, but that is not a good deal and so I left to Fios. It makes no sense to me to pay to upgrade, plus sign a contract with no discounts. Why would I pay dish to lock me in for 2 years? Maybe $200 and i stayed out of contract, but even that is pushing it, its not like phones where you own the phone, its not like I can take the boxes with me if I leave, dish does not throw them away, they use them for another customer. So this whole, well the box costs this much, and that, so what, they are not rendered unusable after a customer leaves, dish is not losing anything, they clean them up and reuse them. And then seeing how they treat long time customers. Why would I want to stay with you if I can see how poorly you treat others who have been with you for over a decade?

does any cell phone company let u upgrade to an iphone for free?no
so why should dish let u upgrade for free?

dare2be

Mar 31, 2012

domingos35 said:
does any cell phone company let u upgrade to an iphone for free?no
so why should dish let u upgrade for free?

Do you own that cellphone when you sign a new agreement to upgrade your phone? yes
Do you own the receiver when you sign a new agreement to upgrade your receiver? no

navychop

Mar 31, 2012

navychop said:
BB@Home is only compatible with the ViP6xx & ViP722 series. It is not compatible with the ViP922.

Jhon69 said:
Yet.

Scott's sources told him BBMP should be added to the VIP922 before Team Summit(May,2012)?.

Hall said:
Plans change... ;-)

With all the unrealized features, and bugs, in the Hopper/Joey system- I really doubt much work is in progress on the ViP922. "Later" not "soon."

However, I do have a couple of handy "eating crow" pictures that sometimes come in handy.

harshness

Mar 31, 2012

Mike Russo said:
I'm the one who posted in another thread how a supervisor finally admitted that my account had "received credits unavailable to others" and was thus ineligible.

When did you last upgrade hardware (the month is close enough)?

It sounds like they think you've received all the love you deserve for a while and I'm wondering if it is justified.

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osu1991

Pub Member / Supporter

Last reply 26 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

USA Healthcare Costs are Ridiculous

Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.

Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.

After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.

I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.

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vazhog

Yesterday at 4:05 PM

that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -

Foxbat

Today at 12:33 PM

Why isn't this Political thread over in the Pit? This is why there is a Pit, and why I rarely use the Chit Chat Club. But someone said, "The Pub is Elitist since you have to pay dues to enter, so please post in the Chit Chat forum so more guests can read and participate."

harshness

Today at 1:19 PM

Foxbat said:
Why isn't this Political thread over in the Pit?

Because health care shouldn't be a political issue?

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slow_poke_pete

50 minutes ago

vazhog said:
that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -

what about the welfare kings and queens

osu1991

28 minutes ago

Foxbat said:
Why isn't this Political thread over in the Pit? This is why there is a Pit, and why I rarely use the Chit Chat Club. But someone said, "The Pub is Elitist since you have to pay dues to enter, so please post in the Chit Chat forum so more guests can read and participate."

I didn't start it as a political statement and have no interest in the political BS of this country. Everyone wants to make everything political nowadays. This was just my rant over the outrageous increase in my premiums and how unaffordable healthcare is becoming to the average person here.

admin can close or delete it if they don't want here.

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Bobby

26 minutes ago

Foxbat said:
Why isn't this Political thread over in the Pit? This is why there is a Pit, and why I rarely use the Chit Chat Club. But someone said, "The Pub is Elitist since you have to pay dues to enter, so please post in the Chit Chat forum so more guests can read and participate."

There are no dues to be paid to be in the Pit. You just have to use the password which is clearly shown when you try to log in to it.

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telebiker

Last reply Today at 1:56 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Hopper and Dish Hopper Plus No Alexa in settings

I have Dish Hopper and Hopper Plus and also have Alexa Echo. I link the Alex skill to Dish and it asks me to enter the pairing code shown on the TV. I go into Dish Settings and there is no Alexa shown. Not sure what to do.

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Harryhaggle

Mar 18, 2026

Understood. But here's the rub - Google Assistant setup is ALSO missing from the Hopper Plus setup. I'm a paraplegic.and need to use voice controls as much as possible but I can't press a button on the remote to activate Google Assistant. I prefer ALEXA (or ALEXA+) but I have one older google device and will go that route IF they make it available. BTW calling Dish Customer Service is no help- they just say they have no info on if/when there will be an update.

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navychop

Mar 18, 2026

Ungood.

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reubenray

Oct 18, 2026

What is the purpose of connecting Alexa and the H3?

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navychop

Oct 18, 2026

Tell Alexa verbally what to do.

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snissen

Today at 1:56 PM

reubenray said:
What is the purpose of connecting Alexa and the H3?

I stand up from my chair with my glass in one hand and my plate in the other, when a story I really want to hear comes on the TV. So I say, "Alexa, pause DISH", and it waits for me to return from the kitchen, at which time I say, "Alexa, resume DISH".

Or maybe, when I return with a full glass in one hand and a new plate in the other, I realize I forgot to pause to hear this good story from its start. So I say, "Alexa, skip DISH backwards 3 minutes", and I still get to catch the whole story.

I use this every day. Or until I acquire a third hand.

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 1:18 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Lakeside Park - Rush

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Another PARK Another Sunday-The Doobie Brothers

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Another One Bites The Dust - Queen

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Oh Susanna, Dust off the Old Pianna - Ozzie Nelson & His Orchestra

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Garden Party - Ricky Nelson

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dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 1:05 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Claude's site is still up and running. New link required

I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

DishRetailer

America's Oldest Satellite Forum!

satelliteretailer.com

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 5:34 PM

If any of you know some of the guys from the board and you have their contact info, please reach out to them....many failed to update their contact info and some even had starband email addresses.

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Scott Greczkowski

Yesterday at 8:29 PM

dishstaller said:
I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

DishRetailer

America's Oldest Satellite Forum!

satelliteretailer.com

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.

Now I have to go check out what happened now. Lol!

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Scott Greczkowski

Yesterday at 8:31 PM

Went and looked, not too bad...

Just let people know the address is satelliteretailer.com as DishRetailer.COM is not working.

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(((Garyd)))

Today at 1:05 PM

dishstaller said:
If any of you know some of the guys from the board and you have their contact info, please reach out to them....many failed to update their contact info and some even had starband email addresses.

Your old link triggered my Bitdefender today.

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ewindowman

Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 1:01 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th

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Almighty1

Oct 7, 2026

EchoStar fixes some of its mess, but there's much more to mop up

EchoStar's satellite TV and Sling TV services have exited Chapter 11, but clouds still hover above Dish Wireless, which faces a multitude of lawsuits.

www.lightreading.com

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Bruce

Today at 7:11 AM

News about the tower's dispute-

Towercos now own Dish's 5G radios – and SpaceX might be a buyer

Tower companies now own Dish's deserted 5G gear, says American Tower CEO Steven Vondran. This could feed into SpaceX's mobile ambitions, analysts say.

www.lightreading.com

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comfortably_numb

Today at 9:50 AM

Bruce said:
News about the tower's dispute-

Towercos now own Dish's 5G radios – and SpaceX might be a buyer

Tower companies now own Dish's deserted 5G gear, says American Tower CEO Steven Vondran. This could feed into SpaceX's mobile ambitions, analysts say.

www.lightreading.com

So does this mean the churches and businesses that Dish owes back payments to are going to get paid now?

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navychop

Today at 10:53 AM

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nelson61

Today at 1:01 PM

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They note that the Dish Wireless radios at issue support the 2GHz and 800MHz spectrum SpaceX is acquiring from EchoStar and Grain.

"Buying compatible equipment already installed on towers could give SpaceX a head start on its wireless terrestrial network build and throw a big bucket of cold water on Verizon's four-to-six-year timeline and $300-$500 billion estimate for SpaceX's buildout," said the analysts."

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dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply Today at 12:40 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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harshness

Oct 18, 2026

I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

harshness

Oct 20, 2026

harshness said:
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.

Foxbat

Oct 20, 2026

harshness said:
It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.

Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.

Bobby

Oct 21, 2026

Regular$5.839
Premium$6.299
Diesel$7.999
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

harshness

Oct 21, 2026

Foxbat said:
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price?

Winter blend is reportedly 10-30 cents cheaper, but I would point out that prices have dropped as much as 62 cents at RP.

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Bobby

Today at 11:03 AM

Regular$5.699
Premium$6.199
Diesel$7.999
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

osu1991

Today at 11:26 AM

Was just out running errands and saw $3.69 at most places

dfergie

Today at 12:40 PM

$4.04 most places, Diesel $5.85...

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