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Hello,

I just need to vent a little here :)

We've had the Hopper/Joey combo for a few days and we are having many problems. The wife is really getting on my case as well. Although the GUI is very nice, I am beginning to fear that the units are not really ready yet and we're basically beta testing buggy software and/or hardware. Not to get into nit-picking many little things here and there, I'll just mention some major issues. Firstly, random reboots on the Hopper as we're watching TV or as it's recording something. And last night as we were watching a recording, we're were skipping through the commercials and suddenly it froze for a couple of seconds, went to a blank screen, then went to a blank screen with the small picture at the top left and the pointer arrow moving randomly on the screen really slow. We had to reboot at that point. Also we are having a problem with Fox-29 where the channel is not clear and the bottom half of the screen is not in sync (slightly behind like a 1/100th of a second behind or something) on both TVs, both Joey and Hopper. The tech said it's a FOX-29 issue and told me about it even before he hooked everything up and that FOX-29 is supposed to have it fixed soon. So far though, no fix, and what gets me is that there's no issue on my bedroom OTA HD-TV and there was never an issue with that on the 722k or 211. On my Joey, sometimes when I turn it on the screen is blank, nothing, nada. I have to turn it off/on again and it seems ok. As I mentioned, there are many more things here and there as well. I did mention some other things in other posts too.

I am going to call Dish today and see if they can resolve these problems. Maybe I just got some bad units and they need to swap them out? If they cannot resolve it I will have them replaced with good old reliable 722k and 211k and wait a year or something until they get these problems resolved.

Thanks for listening!
Jay
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patmurphey
You're not, by mistake, on one of those power strips that turn off accessories when the main unit is powered down, are you? Alternately, is the IR turned off on your Hopper? A spurious "off" IR signal should not cause the Hopper to go off - just to standby, and in and out of standby should not cause a cold reboot.
N
You may have a TV that can "control" devices connected by HDMI. It is called different thing by different manufacturers.
First thing to check is the settings on the TV and turn off the setting.(you may need to look in manual to find the correct setting)
You could also try hooking up using component instead of HDMI
patmurphey
But it should still be standby unless the electric power is involved.
dangue
flighinhigh said:
Since we had the Hopper and one Joey installed, if the TV on the Hopper is turned off the Hopper turns off. Have had the Hopper and Joey replaced, node, and switch, still have the same problem. Living room TV turns off the hopper goes off. If TV is off for several hours during the day when the TV is turned back on the Hopper waits a minute or two before doing a cold reboot, then the LR1 Hopper is in standby mode, pressing select it may or may no have to connect to the satellite. Tech has been to third level of advanced tech support and still no idea of how to fix the problem. Tech coming back out for fourth time today. We are ready to go back the 722 and add the 612 that worked, but loose the upgrade fee, no refunds per dish ex.

If Dish can't make it work, I would fight to get the upgrade fee refunded and make sure you didn't re-up your commitment. You're not having buyer's remorse. The upgrade you paid for is not functioning properly. No way they should keep your money under those circumstances. Either they figure it out and fix it, or you should be refunded.
DustoMan
Even if the TV is sending a signal to turn off the Hopper, it shouldn't be killing the power completely. - It should be going to standby. Just as an experiment, I'd stick the Hopper on it's own power strip. Are you 100% sure you have it plugged into the same outlet that your old receiver was plugged into? No disrespect to the technicians that come out, but sometimes they aren't observant and just plug things in for the sake of plugging it in and making it work. They might not realize that you have a special "green" power strip. Especially if you have switched hoppers, that tells me it's not the hopper itself but something else in your setup.
Bruce
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I was reading this article


That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.


Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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Bruce
Sony is discontinuing it's last 4K disc player, Panasonic has been rumored to be doing the same, the end of physical media is unfortunately, about to happen.

dishstaller
Sony is discontinuing it's last 4K disc player, Panasonic has been rumored to be doing the same, the end of physical media is unfortunately, about to happen.
Hate to hear that. If you don't physically have something in your hand, you don't really own it.
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Bruce
Hate to hear that. If you don't physically have something in your hand, you don't really own it.
Even a physical disc purchase is considered a license, just extremely harder to pull access vs digital.

But once new players are no longer sold and older players quit working, that takes care of the access to your library.

See LaserDiscs for one example of that happening.
ncted
Sony is discontinuing it's last 4K disc player, Panasonic has been rumored to be doing the same, the end of physical media is unfortunately, about to happen.

I am so done with Sony on so many levels. This is just one small piece of it.
Jimbo
I am so done with Sony on so many levels. This is just one small piece of it.
I Love my Sony equipment :)
dishstaller
just extremely harder to pull access vs digital.
And dangerous if you get my drift.
navychop
I Love my Sony equipment :)

That's an odd name for it.
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Bruce
And again, 15 months in a row, streaming wins-

Cable and Broadcast added together-36.4%

Streaming with a massive 49.6%, 13.2% higher than Broadcast/Streaming.

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TRG
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Now that I'm retired, obviously I have different health care insurance. I take 2 prescriptions. With my old insurance I didn't have to pay for either of them, now I do. It's not a huge amount but it led me to dig a little into the cost of prescription medications. I have been using Walgreens for the longest time. But what I found was that Walgreens price is 4.8 times more for one of my prescriptions and the other is 2.3 percent more compared to the lowest price pharmacy. If you pay for prescription medications you might want to have a look at trumprx and see if you can get a lower price.


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I run them through several different providers to see who has the lowest cost

Usually it's Walmart or Sam's + GoodRx

Also...


You can also price them through the CareCard and WellRx apps.

Sometimes Amazon Pharmacy is cheapest.
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dishstaller
Usually it's Walmart or Sam's + GoodRx
I'm fortunate and don't take any medications. A couple years ago I had to take some antibiotics and used the GoodRx app. Went to Walmart and the person behind the desk knew me and told me to just buy them outright....the GoodRx price was a LOT higher. She said they aren't supposed to tell customers when they see they are being screwed.
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That's ok. I probably take enough for the two of us.

God knows what Bobby takes. Maybe so much they count as a meal?
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Bobby
That's ok. I probably take enough for the two of us.

God knows what Bobby takes. Maybe so much they count as a meal?
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Actually I take just 2 prescriptions, Atorvastatin and Lisinopril. They cost me $6 each for 100 pills. Next year that will be nothing.
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Actually I take just 2 prescriptions, Atorvastatin and Lisinopril. They cost me $6 each for 100 pills. Next year that will be nothing.
Those are two of the three I take.
comfortably_numb
Went to Walmart and the person behind the desk knew me and told me to just buy them outright....the GoodRx price was a LOT higher

Walmart and Sam's pharmacies have "zero rated" prescriptions lists where generics are $4 (or less). If yours are on that list, then of course GoodRx isn't going to help. Also, GoodRx isn't always the cheapest discount program. For me, the cheapest is usually Mark Cuban's Cost Plus Drugs.
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Find A Way To My Heart - Phil Collins
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Heart of Glass - Blondie
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Harden My HEART-Quarterflash
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My Heart Will Go On - Celine Dion
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SuperDish_Fan23
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Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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remembers when ATT had stores and leased home phones
dishstaller
My Wife was recently in an antique store and saw a rotary desk phone and it had one of those sticker overlays that had a business listed with phone number under each number on the dial. She looked closer and it had my old Radio Shack listed under the 8...she bought it. Pretty cool keepsake. Back then I rented vhs movies as well so I had it listed as Radio Shack / Movie Gallery and then the phone number.
Almighty1
I remember this in the news too...

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Bobby
I remember this in the news too...

That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.
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anybody remember this disaster ?