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dish522noe
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Why subscribe to DISH???

Why subscribe to DISH??? This is my personal opinion. I subscribe to DISH because I used to have cable. This cable company is worthless and won't upgrade its network. Few digital cable channels, no DVR, the prices goes up and up for few channels. They did not upgrade for years and I don't think they will upgrade because they are selling out.

I know that DH is not perfect but I could say that DH is way better than my local cable company. I had problems with DISH here and now, but I know I get more channels and DVR recording.
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Sorry about that. When I went to the local channels at Dish website, it showed Omaha as an area that got the locals as did Duluth. What I didn't do was read the fine print at the bottom of the page. "Channels may vary by market"
I stand corrected.
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Yep…its really sad when we all pay the same price for locals (5.99 alacarte or 5.00 with a package), and each area gets different amounts of channels

Now I could say "LA & NY have over 20 and this area gets this many" but I won't. I'll use a legit comparison

Duluth, MN has 5 stations in its locals (no WB or UPN…reasons are above)
Minneapolis has 10 stations in its locals (big 4, 3 PBS, WB, UPN, Indy)

We both pay the same, but if I want WB & UPN I have to pay 8.99 (5.99 +1.50+1.50 for UPN and WB Supers). Is that fair? Not really

Some areas don't have a WB or UPN for a reason (not available, cable only, or retrans agreement issue). Still the same price. Now, if one of the "Big 4" (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX) is not available for retrans agreement issues, you get $1 discount until its available (when Duluth first came up, we had no CBS).

The oddball ones are when there is one network that isn't available at all. An example is Cheyenne, WY. There was no NBC in the area, so they were able to substitute Denver's NBC in the package. Now that NBC is available, new customers cannot
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We switched to Dish from Qwest Choice TV Because we could still get most of the channels we wanted plus a DVR for about 5$ less per month. At the time Qwest didn't offer BYUTV. Qwest later offered it in an add on package for an additional $12/month so we're saving even more.
Cheapest price in town, that's the only reason we put up with their sub-par service.
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It's the cheapest service available and the picture quality is better than on analog cable. Cable charges for locals, even if you have OTA and don't want them.

Since I pay yearly for AT60 in January, I always am locked in for another year at the price before the February price increase. Also, I get one month of programming for free. I can switch to whatever "owned" receiver that I want and change to another without the need for a new card or a commitment. I can resell the receiver, and the new owner does not have to pay or wait for the provider to send the buyer a new card. Since I get fantastic OTA (much better than Dish or Direct), I don't need to purchase locals. If do not want locals, Dish gives you a larger discount for not taking the locals.

Not sub par service for basic AT60. It is ultra reliable. The 2800 works almost flawlessly with a stand alone TiVo. Legacy twins and quads are the best. I have an old DirecTV 18 inch pan on my Dish500. No signal dropoffs except in heavy rain, like the standard pan.
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Mike500 said:
If do not want locals, Dish gives you a larger discount for not taking the locals.
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I forgot that i get my locals OTA now and hardly never use the Dish locals.. I will call them up and cancel my locals. They will probably tell me I can't though, knowing how Dish works...

Thanks for the tip though!
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You're welcome. You can cancel them with no problem. I don't know, however, if they will charge a $5 downgrade fee.

Cable subsidizes locals for everyone. You can't buy any cable package without locals, even if you don't need or want them.

I've installed OTA HD in my area, and it is fantastic. I'm almost sure that cable or satellite HD locals will not be as good.

So, why pay for something that is free.
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dishstaller
dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Claude's site is still up and running. New link required

I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

DishRetailer

America's Oldest Satellite Forum!
satelliteretailer.com satelliteretailer.com

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.
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If any of you know some of the guys from the board and you have their contact info, please reach out to them....many failed to update their contact info and some even had starband email addresses.
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dishstaller said:
I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

DishRetailer

America's Oldest Satellite Forum!
satelliteretailer.com satelliteretailer.com

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.
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Now I have to go check out what happened now. Lol!
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Went and looked, not too bad...

Just let people know the address is satelliteretailer.com as DishRetailer.COM is not working. :)
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dishstaller said:
If any of you know some of the guys from the board and you have their contact info, please reach out to them....many failed to update their contact info and some even had starband email addresses.
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Your old link triggered my Bitdefender today.
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Now I have to go check out what happened now. Lol!
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I had a direct link to ]Political, thought provoking and debatable but now have to go in the main section or I get a warning on my Bitdefender
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Scott Greczkowski said:
Now I have to go check out what happened now. Lol!
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I sent you a PM Scott. Doesn't really make any sense to me BUT....I've never claimed to be the sharpest knife in the drawer....though I just might be the most persistent. :baby
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I sent you a PM Scott. Doesn't really make any sense to me BUT....I've never claimed to be the sharpest knife in the drawer....though I just might be the most persistent. :baby
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Its an automated bot. Explained it to you in the PM.
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

EV News

www.autoweek.com

America’s Fastest-Growing EV State Isn’t California—Not by a Long Shot

New data shows electric vehicle adoption is increasingly driven by state policies, electricity prices and charging access—not federal incentives
www.autoweek.com www.autoweek.com

The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.


:eek


It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.

So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.​
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If it weren't for the sky-high electricity prices...

Of course, the real scare with Winter coming is the insane cost of heating oil.
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www.motortrend.com

GM Is Coming for Tesla, Rivian, and China, on Your Phone and in the Car

GM’s latest tech preview details autonomous highway driving plans, AI-powered OnStar features, and new LMR batteries for future EVs.
www.motortrend.com www.motortrend.com

GM said its next-generation vehicle architecture will provide 40 times more computing power and 30 percent less wiring than before and will expand from the 2028 Cadillac Escalade IQ to its high-volume SUVs, trucks, crossovers, and fourth-generation EVs, which will be powered by lithium manganese-rich (LMR) prismatic batteries

Despite the politicization and perceived consumer pivot away from EVs in America, GM needs to remain globally competitive, so it's doubling down on its fourth generation EVs, with energy-dense, cheaper-to-manufacture LMR batteries, more efficient motors, and state-of-the-art centralized computing architecture. With a stated goal of cutting the traditional four- to five-year concept-to-production time in half, GM is clearly challenging the concept of "China speed," which in the Chinese automotive industry can be as quick as 18 months from design to start of production. In the AI space, GM is smartly collapsing all of its marque-specific apps under the familiar OnStar brand, while providing more features—both on the phone and in the car—than it ever has before.
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Let's tell it like it is. GM's EV efforts are coming from SAIC. The brain trust is almost entirely in China, and GM is hanging off of SAIC's shirt tails.

It is a lot like asserting that the Corvette was designed by Chevrolet when most of it came from the Cadillac CTS-V.
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Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.

So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.​
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That's how Ford did it- vertical integration. He even set up a rubber plantation in S. America
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Untitled Linux Show 277

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Rivulet on Apple TV is a Game Changer! Dolby Vision FEL, Lossless Audio

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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Oh Susanna, Dust off the Old Pianna - Ozzie Nelson & His Orchestra
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Dish Hopper and Dish Hopper Plus No Alexa in settings

I have Dish Hopper and Hopper Plus and also have Alexa Echo. I link the Alex skill to Dish and it asks me to enter the pairing code shown on the TV. I go into Dish Settings and there is no Alexa shown. Not sure what to do.
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Ungood.
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What is the purpose of connecting Alexa and the H3?
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Tell Alexa verbally what to do.
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reubenray said:
What is the purpose of connecting Alexa and the H3?
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I stand up from my chair with my glass in one hand and my plate in the other, when a story I really want to hear comes on the TV. So I say, "Alexa, pause DISH", and it waits for me to return from the kitchen, at which time I say, "Alexa, resume DISH".

Or maybe, when I return with a full glass in one hand and a new plate in the other, I realize I forgot to pause to hear this good story from its start. So I say, "Alexa, skip DISH backwards 3 minutes", and I still get to catch the whole story.

I use this every day. Or until I acquire a third hand.
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The Resurrectionists can help you with that.

For a price.
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Google Renamed NotebookLM—Again? Why Its Product Names Confuse Everyone #shorts

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Amazon Echo Event: 5 New Smart Home Devices Revealed

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Halloween Pokemon Center Haul

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