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pearlish

Last reply Jun 17, 2012 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

dish - first time customer

I'm a dish first-time to-be customer, and I've tons of questions!

I share house with others, and they already have time warner - road runner as internet service provider. Will that be an issue? Do people usually save by getting tv and internet from same company? (Road runner doesn't offer the channel I want. Does it make sense to pay $30 a month to dish for just one channel?))

Will they drill into apartment for wiring? I live in a rented apartment, and although dish is allowed, I would like to know how cabling would work out.

I want to keep it as a surprise for a family member. Can the guy install dish and I hide it for few days or will that mess up settings? Do they usually keep their appointment? I would like to invite the guy when she's not home.

How much recorded time do they provide for dish online (does that need dvr service - $6/month as well? Why does it need sling adapter?)

I don't have any tv at all. I would like to use tv-tuner, please suggest/share what are some potential gotchas. I don't need tv-tuner to change channel. I can change it from receiver, and as I said, I need it only for one channel.

What are some other fees apart from monthly subscription that I should watch out for?

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Jim5506

Jun 15, 2012

I believe if you are a renter, you may have to have written consent from your landlord for the install.

Standard install is to find an appropriate site for the dish, ground the dish, run cable along the outside of the dwelling to the room where the receiver is located and drill a hole in the wall there.

Sorry, but the dish must be securely mounted or you'll have a devil of a time getting signal when you need it. You may be able to hide the receiver, that is if you are sure you know how to reattach it.

Appointments are usually in a 4 hour block 8am to noon or 1 to 5pm, exact time cannot be guaranteed.

I'm not sure about Dish-on-line but I think there is a reserved partition on the drive for this so it does not impact recording time.

The sling adapter is not for receiving downloads, it is for sending your live TV or recordings to another device.

I believe dish-on-line and sling are two seperate entities that are not related at all.

No TV, so you will watch on a computer monitor? Then your picture quality will be totally dependent on what type of inputs your monitor has. If you're lucky it may have an DVI or even an HDMI input, that would be fixed with the proper cable, but if your monitor is VGA input only, you will have to get the video signal into your computer somehow and HDMI and component input solutions for computers will probably run you around $200 (the price of a small HDTV). Other than that you will need atuner card for your computer, but be sure it is both ATSC and NTSC, because the RF out from the Dish receiver is NTSC.

Fees, well, if you get a DVR there is the $6/month DVR service fee. If you have only one receiver, that receiver fee is included in the basic package price. From there the second receiver would be charged a fee, but I don't think that is in your plans.

I think that is all, I'm sure if I'm in error, somebody will be more than willing to point it out.

garys

Jun 16, 2012

I don't believe the OP has a realistic idea of what Dish is and how it is delivered. A visit to a local retailer should show him some basics.

pearlish

Jun 16, 2012

Jim5506 said:
I believe if you are a renter, you may have to have written consent from your landlord for the install.

Standard install is to find an appropriate site for the dish, ground the dish, run cable along the outside of the dwelling to the room where the receiver is located and drill a hole in the wall there.

Sorry, but the dish must be securely mounted or you'll have a devil of a time getting signal when you need it. You may be able to hide the receiver, that is if you are sure you know how to reattach it.

Appointments are usually in a 4 hour block 8am to noon or 1 to 5pm, exact time cannot be guaranteed.

I'm not sure about Dish-on-line but I think there is a reserved partition on the drive for this so it does not impact recording time.

The sling adapter is not for receiving downloads, it is for sending your live TV or recordings to another device.

I believe dish-on-line and sling are two seperate entities that are not related at all.

No TV, so you will watch on a computer monitor? Then your picture quality will be totally dependent on what type of inputs your monitor has. If you're lucky it may have an DVI or even an HDMI input, that would be fixed with the proper cable, but if your monitor is VGA input only, you will have to get the video signal into your computer somehow and HDMI and component input solutions for computers will probably run you around $200 (the price of a small HDTV). Other than that you will need atuner card for your computer, but be sure it is both ATSC and NTSC, because the RF out from the Dish receiver is NTSC.

Fees, well, if you get a DVR there is the $6/month DVR service fee. If you have only one receiver, that receiver fee is included in the basic package price. From there the second receiver would be charged a fee, but I don't think that is in your plans.

I think that is all, I'm sure if I'm in error, somebody will be more than willing to point it out.

That's exactly what I had thought except a dish CSR told me there would be no drilling, leaving me totally confused. Thanks for verifying this.

Thanks for clarifying about sling adapter, now it makes sense.

As long as I get ATSC and NTSC tv-tuner, I should be fine? People on other forums mentioned something along the lines of IR blaster also needed, but if it's only needed so tv-tuner can change the channel, that can be skipped for now.

CSR also told me she can waive activation fee for 24-month contract, but she won't waive admin fee. I searched forums, and I couldn't comprehend what exactly the admin-fee was.

pearlish

Jun 16, 2012

garys said:
I don't believe the OP has a realistic idea of what Dish is and how it is delivered. A visit to a local retailer should show him some basics.

lol I did until I talked to csr's at dish. They said some very confusing stuff contradicting what I had read on forums and my understanding of how dish worked, leaving me very confused.

Mojo Jojo

Jun 17, 2012

What is the one channel that you want?

Also, if you are not wanting streaming but a DVR, I would suggest a 211 HD Solo receiver if you have just one TV and want DVR capabilities. 211 DVR integration is a one-time fee of $40 without the $6/month DVR fee; you will need your own external hard drive, though. The first receiver does not have an additional equipment fee as it is said to be in the base package price. If you have 2 TVs, you may want 211s although the second one would cost $7/month along with needing an external hard drive or two (depending on how many you want to integrate into a DVR) for high definition on both TVs, or you may want a 722 HD Duo receiver which does not have an equipment fee for just one that covers two Independent TVs- one in HD and one in SD and is a DVR for $6/month. (A second 722 would be $17/month.)

Claude Greiner

Jun 17, 2012

Instead of getting Dish just for you, why don't you talk your room mates into getting rid of cable?

Get additional receivers for the other tv's and keep cable just for the Internet.

You would get Better service and save money over cable as a whole.

HanoverPretzel

Jun 17, 2012

Some Dish installers will run a wire down from the receiver to right outside where the cable wire enters the home, and use a little switch box (I think that's what they're called) allowing them to plug the Dish wire in on one side and the wire that used to take cable into the home on the other side. This avoids drilling an extra hole and saves the installer some work. However, if you're keeping cable anything (TV, Internet, phone), it could mess it up.

That's the route the installer took with me and I questioned it and came very close to telling him to drill a hole or forget the installation. But, you know, I get tired of fighting every little thing sometimes and just wanted to watch some TV.

It isn't horrible in my case, because a) I have cable that enters my home into two places, so when I signed back up for cable Internet 6 months later, the install guy used that input instead and allowed Dish TV to co-exist with cable Internet in my apartment, and b) Should I go back to cable for television at some point and need the entry point that Dish is now using (Probably will, because it's right by the TV), it should theoretically be as simple as the cable installer unscrewing the Dish line in to the switch box (or whatever it's called) right outside the building, and screwing the cable line back in (I think it's there ready to be screwed in, but if not it'd only require a running a couple feet of extra cable to bring it down).

But, anyhow, back to the point- if you still need your cable lines to work because you're keeping cable Internet, you'd better tell your Dish installer that when he shows up. They can run the wire from the Dish and drill a new hole in the wall to bring it inside on all new wiring, preserving your ability to use both services, but it's easier for them to hijack your existing cable line at the entry point (avoids drilling the hole and doing any internal wiring), so they may well do that if they think you're not using the cable line for anything. Basically, you just need to be there and tell them you're using the cable for Internet and you'd prefer they run a new line and drill a new hole, and they should do it (Although maybe not happily.

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dishstaller

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Last reply 1 minute ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Claude's site is still up and running. New link required

I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

DishRetailer

America's Oldest Satellite Forum!

satelliteretailer.com

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.

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dishstaller

Today at 5:34 PM

If any of you know some of the guys from the board and you have their contact info, please reach out to them....many failed to update their contact info and some even had starband email addresses.

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Scott Greczkowski

3 minutes ago

dishstaller said:
I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

DishRetailer

America's Oldest Satellite Forum!

satelliteretailer.com

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.

Now I have to go check out what happened now. Lol!

Scott Greczkowski

1 minute ago

Went and looked, not too bad...

Just let people know the address is satelliteretailer.com as DishRetailer.COM is not working.

osu1991

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Last reply 14 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

USA Healthcare Costs are Ridiculous

Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.

Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.

After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.

I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.

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b4pjoe

Today at 3:49 PM

osu1991 said:
Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

Are you employed with no work insurance or that is what you are paying for your workplace insurance? Or is that through Healthcare.gov? Retired? Eligible for medicare?

vazhog

Today at 4:05 PM

that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -

osu1991

Today at 4:28 PM

b4pjoe said:
Are you employed with no work insurance or that is what you are paying for your workplace insurance? Or is that through Healthcare.gov? Retired? Eligible for medicare?

Started my own business in 2006, been self employed for 20 years this year.

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meStevo

Today at 4:52 PM

vazhog said:
that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -

Even sarcastically it's wrong. Undocumented immigrants already weren't eligible for federal Medicaid, so there's no one to "get off the rolls." The immigrant-related pieces are a small part of the ~$1 trillion. They cut the federal match for emergency care from 90% to the state's regular rate and end eligibility for some lawful immigrants like refugees. Most of the "savings" come from work requirements, more frequent eligibility checks, and provider tax limits, which hit citizens.

Either way, the cost doesn't disappear. It shifts to states, hospitals, and everyone else's premiums and will only serve to make issues like those raised in this thread worse.

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dishstaller

Today at 5:05 PM

meStevo said:
Undocumented immigrants already weren't eligible for federal Medicaid, so there's no one to "get off the rolls."

That's only part correct. Actually I had to look it up to make sure. There is NO Federal money going to Medicaid for illegals but there ARE some states that use State money to pay for Medicaid for illegals. Here's the list

- California: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
- Colorado: Covers specific adult demographics (with upcoming budget caps in 2027). [1]
- Illinois: Covers specific adult age brackets. [1]
- New York: Covers specific adult demographics. [1]
- Oregon: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
- Washington: Covers specific adult demographics. [1, 2]
- Washington, D.C.: Provides adult coverage through the D.C. Health Care Alliance. [1, 2]

meStevo

Today at 5:55 PM

dishstaller said:
That's only part correct. Actually I had to look it up to make sure. There is NO Federal money going to Medicaid for illegals but there ARE some states that use State money to pay for Medicaid for illegals. Here's the list

California: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]

Colorado: Covers specific adult demographics (with upcoming budget caps in 2027). [1]

Illinois: Covers specific adult age brackets. [1]

New York: Covers specific adult demographics. [1]

Oregon: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]

Washington: Covers specific adult demographics. [1, 2]

Washington, D.C.: Provides adult coverage through the D.C. Health Care Alliance. [1, 2]

Fair point, but it's consistent with what I said: no federal Medicaid money goes to undocumented immigrants. Those programs are state-funded, so the federal ~$1T cut can't touch them. Whatever states decide to do with their own programs is a separate budget decision.

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vazhog

14 minutes ago

The feds give money to the states for them to use - Cutting the fed funding only means the taxpayer savings will passed onto the states that need to make up the Fed dollars cut -See the list above for those states affected

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dfergie said:
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