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I went to the Dish Network forum and asked about three hopper systems and below is the reply from Dish tech.....
TECH Reply -"We are not able to setup 2H/0J, or 3H/0J in our system. There are some cases where we can do 1H/0J, but otherwise each Hopper needs at least 1 corresponding Joey (so we can do 1H/2J or 2H/2J)."
Then I replied below and with the techs reply.
rdeejr wrote:
Hmmmm. That's odd. I know people who have two hoppers and no joeys. I also read on satellite guys forum of one user with three hoppers on the same account.
This is the frustrating part of upgrading.
TECH Reply - "I am aware that some customers do have this on their account. These customers either went through a retailer, or purchased and self installed the equipment. We do not have the option to set them up in our system."
Self install - REALLY.
If you can't get a correct answer from the source there is a break down. I currently have two 612 and one 722 for a total of six tuners. Why would I want one hopper with three tuners??? I read on forums so I know different but what about all the others who do not know and are getting talked into something they will not be happy with.
Who would have ever thought that upgrading a satellite receiver would be like buying a used car - It all depends on who you talk too.
TECH Reply -"We are not able to setup 2H/0J, or 3H/0J in our system. There are some cases where we can do 1H/0J, but otherwise each Hopper needs at least 1 corresponding Joey (so we can do 1H/2J or 2H/2J)."
Then I replied below and with the techs reply.
rdeejr wrote:
Hmmmm. That's odd. I know people who have two hoppers and no joeys. I also read on satellite guys forum of one user with three hoppers on the same account.
This is the frustrating part of upgrading.
TECH Reply - "I am aware that some customers do have this on their account. These customers either went through a retailer, or purchased and self installed the equipment. We do not have the option to set them up in our system."
Self install - REALLY.
If you can't get a correct answer from the source there is a break down. I currently have two 612 and one 722 for a total of six tuners. Why would I want one hopper with three tuners??? I read on forums so I know different but what about all the others who do not know and are getting talked into something they will not be happy with.
Who would have ever thought that upgrading a satellite receiver would be like buying a used car - It all depends on who you talk too.
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Yes, from one HWS you can see programs on every HWS. The Joey can see programs on all four Hoppers. This is possible because of a jumper coax cable connecting the two Duo Nodes. If there is no jumper coax you are limited to the other HWS connected to the same Duo Node, with the exception of the Joey. The Joey can see the two Hoppers connected to the same Duo Node. In the pics you can see the Hopper selection drop down menu from each Hopper and Joey. In the Hopper diagram pic you can see how the jumper coax is connected between both Duo Nodes. The diagram is accurate with the exception I have added an OTA module with rabbit ears to the second bedroom Hopper.
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As for the person many posts back worried about them not putting the order through without a Joey: Don't worry about this. When I had my Hopper installed 6 months ago they couldn't put the other through without adding at least 1 Joey and just told me to have the installer cancel it off the order when he arrived. He swapped my dish to a 1000.2 with the new LNBs that have the switch built in, installed the "Solo Node" device inside (I prefer to have as little as possible outdoors), and that was that. Worked like a charm.
So what you need to do is call them, get setup on their "protection plan" for $7, then ask them for the number of a local installer and get it scheduled. You can have your multiple hoppers (up to 4) installed inside your house. Problem solved. No self install required. Just make sure when you call the local installer they know how to do the switches properly to feed your 3 hopper properly. Some of the new installers are still confused by the Hopper new LNB and switch setup. Since you have/had 6 total tuners with your two 612's and one 722, for the same price you will now have 9 tuners. Or 12 if you add the over the air tuner to each one.
As Charlesrsehll showed in his awesome setup, anything is possible
As for the rest of this topic about multiple Hoppers on same property:
I just got off the phone with them an hour ago to order a 2nd Hopper with Sling because I want to install it on my shop (aka man cave). Which is on the same property. Since my shop is about 115 feet away from the house dish, and I'm certainly not going to bury coax out there the CSR suggested I just put another dish on the shop itself. Their rule is that you cannot install on a building over 200ft away. I asked if I'd have to buy the 2nd dish and she said no, not if I sign up for the protection plan, then just turn off the protection plan after the install was done. So that saves me $40 plus the install fee which is nice. I also have a 211 on my motor home and that isn't an issue either. I told her I don't have a phone line or internet out there and if the Hopper would still work. I was told the only thing is it won't be able to download PPV/web content over the internet but of course all the normal satellite stuff would work, except no sling capability obviously. But I'm still going to get the unit with Sling just in case I ever run a wireless network bridge out there (I KNOW my WiFi won't reach. I have metal siding on the house and metal shop) I did ask her if it was ok to take my (future) shop Hopper up with me to my cabin for the weekends and she said yes and suggested I buy a tailgater dish.
So that is the latest info I got. Going to get my 2nd HWS ordered this week and mount a second dish on a pole. Looking forward to having my own dish in my "man cave" out of the house.
So what you need to do is call them, get setup on their "protection plan" for $7, then ask them for the number of a local installer and get it scheduled. You can have your multiple hoppers (up to 4) installed inside your house. Problem solved. No self install required. Just make sure when you call the local installer they know how to do the switches properly to feed your 3 hopper properly. Some of the new installers are still confused by the Hopper new LNB and switch setup. Since you have/had 6 total tuners with your two 612's and one 722, for the same price you will now have 9 tuners. Or 12 if you add the over the air tuner to each one.
As Charlesrsehll showed in his awesome setup, anything is possible
As for the rest of this topic about multiple Hoppers on same property:
I just got off the phone with them an hour ago to order a 2nd Hopper with Sling because I want to install it on my shop (aka man cave). Which is on the same property. Since my shop is about 115 feet away from the house dish, and I'm certainly not going to bury coax out there the CSR suggested I just put another dish on the shop itself. Their rule is that you cannot install on a building over 200ft away. I asked if I'd have to buy the 2nd dish and she said no, not if I sign up for the protection plan, then just turn off the protection plan after the install was done. So that saves me $40 plus the install fee which is nice. I also have a 211 on my motor home and that isn't an issue either. I told her I don't have a phone line or internet out there and if the Hopper would still work. I was told the only thing is it won't be able to download PPV/web content over the internet but of course all the normal satellite stuff would work, except no sling capability obviously. But I'm still going to get the unit with Sling just in case I ever run a wireless network bridge out there (I KNOW my WiFi won't reach. I have metal siding on the house and metal shop) I did ask her if it was ok to take my (future) shop Hopper up with me to my cabin for the weekends and she said yes and suggested I buy a tailgater dish.
So that is the latest info I got. Going to get my 2nd HWS ordered this week and mount a second dish on a pole. Looking forward to having my own dish in my "man cave" out of the house.
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Your 1st HWS that is connected to the Internet will supply the 2nd HWS with Internet through the moca line. No extra net or wifi needed.
As for the person many posts back worried about them not putting the order through without a Joey: Don't worry about this. When I had my Hopper installed 6 months ago they couldn't put the other through without adding at least 1 Joey and just told me to have the installer cancel it off the order when he arrived. He swapped my dish to a 1000.2 with the new LNBs that have the switch built in, installed the "Solo Node" device inside (I prefer to have as little as possible outdoors), and that was that. Worked like a charm.
So what you need to do is call them, get setup on their "protection plan" for $7, then ask them for the number of a local installer and get it scheduled. You can have your multiple hoppers (up to 4) installed inside your house. Problem solved. No self install required. Just make sure when you call the local installer they know how to do the switches properly to feed your 3 hopper properly. Some of the new installers are still confused by the Hopper new LNB and switch setup. Since you have/had 6 total tuners with your two 612's and one 722, for the same price you will now have 9 tuners. Or 12 if you add the over the air tuner to each one.
As for the rest of this topic about multiple Hoppers on same property:
I just got off the phone with them an hour ago to order a 2nd Hopper with Sling because I want to install it on my shop (aka man cave). Which is on the same property. Since my shop is about 115 feet away from the house dish, and I'm certainly not going to bury coax out there the CSR suggested I just put another dish on the shop itself. Their rule is that you cannot install on a building over 200ft away. I asked if I'd have to buy the 2nd dish and she said no, not if I sign up for the protection plan, then just turn off the protection plan after the install was done. So that saves me $40 plus the install fee which is nice. I also have a 211 on my motor home and that isn't an issue either. I told her I don't have a phone line or internet out there and if the Hopper would still work. I was told the only thing is it won't be able to download PPV/web content over the internet but of course all the normal satellite stuff would work, except no sling capability obviously. But I'm still going to get the unit with Sling just in case I ever run a wireless network bridge out there (I KNOW my WiFi won't reach. I have metal siding on the house and metal shop) I did ask her if it was ok to take my (future) shop Hopper up with me to my cabin for the weekends and she said yes and suggested I buy a tailgater dish.
So that is the latest info I got. Going to get my 2nd HWS ordered this week and mount a second dish on a pole. Looking forward to having my own dish in my "man cave" out of the house.
Your 1st HWS that is connected to the Internet will supply the 2nd HWS with Internet through the moca line. No extra net or wifi needed.
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(facepalm). I once helped wire a high end house with 12 HDTV's fed by a two 722's into an HDMI matrix splitter, including one 22" HDTV mounted in a bathroom tub wall behind glass (and marine water proof speakers for the audio - quite cool). I was glad that last CSR I talked to knew her stuff. She even knew about wireless HDMI distribution (fairly new).
Also, dvrexpander: Thanks for the info on tailgater not working for hopper. For the price of the 1000.2 dish, I'll just put one up at the cabin if I need to I guess.
I had a 15 minute debate with a CSR about how many TV's I had in my house and that I have an HDMI splitter in the wiring closet with the (then 722, was ordering Hopper) telling him I didn't need Joey's. "No sir, that is not possible. You see, you cannot view on other TV's without Joeys." -- Me: "Well, I've had my 722 setup this way for 6 years now.. HDMI goes into an HDMI splitter, then HDMI cables to every TV in the house" him: "No sir, I'm afraid that is not possible" Sigh..
(facepalm). I once helped wire a high end house with 12 HDTV's fed by a two 722's into an HDMI matrix splitter, including one 22" HDTV mounted in a bathroom tub wall behind glass (and marine water proof speakers for the audio - quite cool). I was glad that last CSR I talked to knew her stuff. She even knew about wireless HDMI distribution (fairly new).As DVR expander said, there will be no connection between the two. And our house has metal siding, metal tinted windows, and the shop is a huge chunk of metal.. Our laptop barely gets WiFi 20 feet from the house with a full power high end dual band wireless router. However, if anyone comes across this need. I can make a recommendation. Try a pair of Engenius long range wireless N150 2.4Ghz bridges (ENS200). $60 a piece and goes non-line-of-site really well being wireless-N. I setup a pair of these in about 20 minutes to bridge some IP cameras on our farm over 3 miles away at 40mbit/sec. Would work great for this too, assuming I think spending $120 will be worth it to connect it to my home network (and other HWS).
Also, dvrexpander: Thanks for the info on tailgater not working for hopper. For the price of the 1000.2 dish, I'll just put one up at the cabin if I need to I guess.
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The situation w/ the Titans and Jordan Elliott is scary.
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Makes me think of the Javon Belcher murder suicide.
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Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.
I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner.
You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).
I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product onlyUnless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.
I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner.
You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).
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So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
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It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.
There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
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Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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LOL. It depends if the person saw it during the years when they were actually still available which is 1968 to 1983 meaning the person could be 43-58 years old or they can even be a few years old if they learned to read and write at a young age and actually saw a telephone with that label somewhere recently just like even here in San Francisco, payphone still exist physically in public places but whether they can be used or not is a different issue. It still looks like this even today:
I opened my Radio Shack in Sept 1984 and right about that time they did the whole deregulation thing with the phone companies. I bought TONS of those phones that had been refurbished with a new outer shell. You could throw one of those out of a 3 story high window and it would still work.
That was an interesting time in history. I would have older customers come in and ask about phones.....they were terrified that they were going to get into trouble hooking up a second phone without the phone company knowing about it. One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone. I guess younger folks can't conceive of a time when you were limited to the number of phones you could have in your house....and limited to the length of the cord
That was an interesting time in history. I would have older customers come in and ask about phones.....they were terrified that they were going to get into trouble hooking up a second phone without the phone company knowing about it. One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone. I guess younger folks can't conceive of a time when you were limited to the number of phones you could have in your house....and limited to the length of the cord
