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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
What are the right settings for the HDTV setup options on VIP 612 receiver? I read that the analog type should be off air. The TV type presumably is 1080i, as I have a recent Samsung Plasma TV that can show up to 1080p. However, the as[ect ratio is very confusing. If it is set at 16:9, I cannot find a TV screen size setting that fits the picture to the screen without distortion or chopping edges. The only one that works is 4x2 #2. This is not intuitive. What do these settings mean and why doesn't 16:9 work on a TV with that native proportions?

Thanks in advance.

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Tampa8
Lets start with this. For ANY newer (and most all others for that matter) LCD or Plasma TV's the settings on the 612 are 1080I 16X9. (Off Air is for the OTA antenna) The one variation is to set it to 720P either because you think it looks better, or because you have an older 720P TV.

Then the TV itself should be at "Just Scan" or "Dot for Dot" whatever the manufacturer calls it. Setting the TV to 16X9 fine also, but will lose just a little of the edges of the picture sometimes. If you do see artifacts on the edges all the time then use 16X9 but I rarely have seen artifacts on any of my TV's other than commercials. Either way, using either setting is not your problem.

Make sure you are using an HDMI cable, or Component connection.

Make sure the 612 is set correctly from the remote. Using the "PAGE" up button cycle through and make sure it says HD:Normal and page down for SD:Normal. Just be sure you are on an HD channel when you do this.
Tampa8
Nope. On the 612 the page button does it. The "format" button will also do it but on some older remotes that is not clearly marked as such. In fact if you use the format button you get a box telling you that the page button can also be used.
K
Nope. On the 612 the page button does it. The "format" button will also do it but on some older remotes that is not clearly marked as such. In fact if you use the format button you get a box telling you that the page button can also be used.

Was that changed by a software update? I just checked now and indeed it does work as you described, I don't recall it being that way when I set up my two 612's. Granted I never change the setting. :)
Mojo Jojo
So glad that you all added this. My iPod died when I tried to add in the format info. XD
W
Tampa8, thank you for the excellent advice: first set the page on the control so the HD and SD are at "normal". The setting instead was HD stretch, which of course led to the wide bodies on the actors. Then the other settings can be 1080 and 16:9. I had no clue. Give Tampa8 another star!
PTVC
Lets start with this. For ANY newer (and most all others for that matter) LCD or Plasma TV's the settings on the 612 are 1080I 16X9. (Off Air is for the OTA antenna) The one variation is to set it to 720P either because you think it looks better, or because you have an older 720P TV.

Glad I read this thread. I had a look and my 612 was set to 1080i and the TV is only 720p. There a slight difference in the picture.
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Last reply · posted in Canadian Satellite Services
I'm new to Satelliteguys so let me give my perspective on Shaw TV reception from someone living in S. Indiana (about latitude 38.9). I have 4 800 series receivers (so all signals go through a multiswitch) and a 75 cm dish. I recently bought a signal meter, SATLINK WS-6933, but have been unable to measure a meaningful signal with it as the Quality Signal measures 0. Perhaps it's my meter settings or perhaps the incoming satellite signal is too weak. I believe it's the later. In any case, I typically measure the incoming signal by taking a Shaw box and a TV outside positioned next to the dish. If there are no adverse weather conditions, the typical signal level is 60 to 70 and EcbNo is 6.0 to 6.5. All strong enough to give me a decent picture. Below signal level 60, my picture starts fading in and out. On a bad weather day (rain, thunderstorms (not uncommon here), snow, etc.) the signal level typically drops below 60 thus no TV. My cable run for all TVs is about 100 yards from dish to TV and my signal loss seems to be minimal as I'll get similar readings at the dish and at the TV.

So, with that as background, I have 2 questions:
1. To boost the signal level, I'm considering replacing my dish for a larger dish, say 90 cm or 120 cm. I currently have an LNB, Shaw 75E-G1(T000409), so designed specifically to be used with a 75 cm dish. When I noticed my signal level decreasing, about 1 year ago, I replaced the LNB with a brand new one and saw no improvement in the signal level. Would this LNB still work with a larger dish? If so, are there any special adjustments that I would need to make in order to get it working? I know others have larger dishes, as one of the threads mentions someone in Denver with a 2.4m dish so there must be a way to make it work. Any advice on this would be appreciated.
2. To be sure my WS-6933 meter is set correctly, any advice on how to set all of the settings?

Sorry for the long post. Thanks in advance for all input.
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arlo
Shaw familiar guys can answer better. You say your lnbf is designed for a 75cm dish.
So the feedhorn of the lnbf must be designed to prevent "spillover" to reduce interference from beyond the rim of the dish. If you were to picture the beam angle from the center of the lnbf throat to the dish rim in a V. Your focus is very close to the apex of the angle at the throat.
So. A larger dish won't hurt if it's an offset dish. There are online gain calculators to plug in different dish diameters.
If the larger dish maintains the same or very close beam angle at the lnb focal point, you should be golden.
Things to consider though is if the dish will allow easy mounting of your lnbf. A bracket may be needed.
With that comes you needing to move your lnbf in closer or further away from the dish to attain that focus needed to peak your signal.
Other than that. I always use my receiver and an app that lets me see signal on the receiver from inside of the house.
Can't comment on your signal finder box. But it seems that if the settings on it match what your receiver displays in setup. It should work. Although I do hear that some do have issues with them playing nice.

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Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum
910 News mix
912 business mix
915 kids mix
920 sports mix
921 league mix
925 local mix ( select markets)

Sunday sports mix coming Sept 7 in select signature packages and my sports genre pack.

Working great no lag
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K
3 new mixes are testing on the stream server:

FNC/MSNOW/CNN/BBC
CNBC/FBN/Bloomberg/Yahoo Finance
FNC/CNN/Newsmax/NewsNation
K
They're now live for streaming customers:
200 "News Mix 1" - FNC/MSNOW/CNN/BBC
200 "News Mix 2" - FNC/CNN/Newsmax/NewsNation
352 "Business Mix 1" - CNBC/FBN/Bloomberg/Yahoo Finance
K
They're testing World Cup mixes with FOX and FS1 for the 29 DMAs with Local Mixes
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They're now live for streaming customers:
200 "News Mix 1" - FNC/MSNOW/CNN/BBC
200 "News Mix 2" - FNC/CNN/Newsmax/NewsNation
352 "Business Mix 1" - CNBC/FBN/Bloomberg/Yahoo Finance
These are now available to satellite customers in the app, the previous news and business mixes on 910 (FNC/MSNOW/CNN/FOX Weather) and 912 (CNBC/FBN/Bloomberg/Cheddar) have been removed.
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They're testing World Cup mixes with FOX and FS1 for the 29 DMAs with Local Mixes
It's now live in the app on channel 220 for streaming customers in those markets


Satellite customers have satellite only mixes of FOX and FS1 on channel 205-1 and Telemundo and Universo on channel 407-1
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zippyfrog
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Last reply · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone
I feel like this was discussed in another thread, but I can't find it. I have T-Mobile and my last iPhone upgrade was in 2020. I want to get a new iPhone, but what is the best way to go about doing it? Should I order the iPhone from T-Mobile directly, or should I buy from the Apple Store? I feel like there are pros/cons to each option.
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Scott Greczkowski
If you are looking to get a new iPhone I would wait until September if you can as the new iPhones will be out then.

I am not sure if I will be looking for an iPhone 18 Pro Max or a iPhone Ultra which will be the new foldable iPhone.
navychop
Might you regret not waiting for the 18?

Value will be treasured long after cost is forgotten.
Scott Greczkowski
Well maybe forget what I said about the iPhone 18. Its looking like it will be released NEXT YEAR.

TheForce
Might you regret not waiting for the 18?

Value will be treasured long after cost is forgotten.
Rumors, not yet confirmed: Advantages of 18 Pro Max over 17 Pro Max

A20 Pro chip on a 2nm process (vs. A19 Pro on 3nm). Expect ~15% better performance, significantly improved power efficiency, better sustained gaming/thermal management .

Variable aperture on the main lens (e.g., f/1.4–2.0 adjustable) for better low-light performance and depth-of-field control

Larger capacity (~5,000–5,200 mAh vs. ~4,800–5,088 mAh on 17 Pro Max

Higher RAM 16GB vs. 12GB)

Some rumors that Apple will not increase the price significantly. So the wait for the 18 over the 17 would typically reduce my 15PM trade-in $490 to $375. Typically, each year the current Pro Max trade in drops ~$100 when the new phone is announced in September.

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Foxbat
So the wait for the 18 over the 17 would typically reduce my 15PM trade-in $490 to $375. Typically, each year the current Pro Max trade in drops ~$100 when the new phone is announced in September.
I was surprised to see that the Trade-in on my iPhone 13 actually increased by the time I got around to replacing it with the iPhone 17. I got $195 when I traded it in at the Apple Store (not a requirement, we are fortunate to have one of the two Indiana Apple Stores near by. Thank you, Notre Dame!) as opposed to $160 when the iPhone 17 was released. Around Christmas, it had increased to $180. I can't remember when that had ever happened before, but who am I to argue with Apple?
Foxbat
I saw that Tim Cook is quoted as saying that the next iPhones will have higher prices due to the increase in RAM costs. So it might make sense to buy now at the price you know versus waiting for the next iPhone with a $100-300 higher starting price tag. There's also the Siri requirement for 12 GB of RAM internally to support on-phone A.I.
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harshness
If you are looking to get a new iPhone I would wait until September if you can as the new iPhones will be out then.
If you believe the recent story in the Wall Street Journal, the prices are likely to take a pretty good hop on the new models due to RAM costs. As a possible result, Apple's per-unit profit may be reduced to only 43%.

The follow-on stories from other agencies are speculating that Apple will try to hold the line and shift RAM costs to other gear (like high-end notebooks), but it isn't a happy day when the cost of a bar phone exceeds $1,800.
tornado
Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
My Joey 4 is installed on a bedroom tv.

The diamond buttons had been reset.

I thought this was unusual.

I had to reprogram the double diamond button for PIP which I watch.

No problem.

PIP feature on the Joey 4 had been used to watch two channels at once which I thought was the limitation being only two channels vs.Hopper 3's multi-view four channels.


This time when I selected the PIP feature I noticed an option for Multi-View?


Could this be?


Yes it could.

This software update does this.

Multi-view PIP (4 channels) Is Now Available on Joey 4.

This is freaking awesome and very surprising!!!

Very wonderful for me.
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Almighty1
Received this e-mail 3 days ago... At the bottom, it says limited to one Multi-view session per household. How does it work if someone had Hopper 3, Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Wired Joey 4 and a Wireless Joey 4 for example? Can they all do Multi-view session at the same time?

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charlesrshell
Received this e-mail 3 days ago... At the bottom, it says limited to one Multi-view session per household. How does it work if someone had Hopper 3, Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Wired Joey 4 and a Wireless Joey 4 for example? Can they all do Multi-view session at the same time?

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I have all them there models. I know for sure they all have multi-view, but I have not tried them all out at the same time. Wife has the H3+ in use right now. I will try it out tomorrow & report back.
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Seems confusing; 4k Joey does 4k but Joey 4 does not...
charlesrshell
I have all them there models. I know for sure they all have multi-view, but I have not tried them all out at the same time. Wife has the H3+ in use right now. I will try it out tomorrow & report back.
I tried out multi-view on my Hopper 3, Joey 4, and Wireless Joey 4 at the same time. H3 multi-view works good but not the Joeys. Only one Joey works at a time (see pic). Also, the Joey's multi-view is not working this morning. It starts out multi-view but then goes out of multi-view mode. It worked yesterday. Did not test my Hopper 3 Plus. Wife is using it again.
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jsmit86
The Multi View does seem to be limited to one set.
I was testing on one of our 4 joey's and I got a message that using it would stop the session on one of my other Joeys.

I like the feature, but from a practical standpoint, I would mostly use it on the 85" and 75" sets, not the 55" and 50" sets for the most part.

My 85" is on the Hopper 3, so usually my only other use would be for my 75" set in the man cave.
charlesrshell
The Multi View does seem to be limited to one set.
I was testing on one of our 4 joey's and I got a message that using it would stop the session on one of my other Joeys.

I like the feature, but from a practical standpoint, I would mostly use it on the 85" and 75" sets, not the 55" and 50" sets for the most part.

My 85" is on the Hopper 3, so usually my only other use would be for my 75" set in the man cave.
Is your Joey multi-view working ok?
MikeD-C05
Seems confusing; 4k Joey does 4k but Joey 4 does not...
4k joey does 4k with out HDR. The Joey 4 does 4k with HDR. They need to eliminate the 4k joeys and replace them with the Joey 4s.
charlesrshell
I tried out multi-view on my Hopper 3, Joey 4, and Wireless Joey 4 at the same time. H3 multi-view works good but not the Joeys. Only one Joey works at a time (see pic). Also, the Joey's multi-view is not working this morning. It starts out multi-view but then goes out of multi-view mode. It worked yesterday. Did not test my Hopper 3 Plus. Wife is using it again.
I just tried out multi-view in my Hopper 3 Plus. I think Multi-view is broke for me. It starts out multi-view then it immediately converts back to single view. Also, only one device can use multi-view. Either the Hopper or Joey.
LQQK
My 85" is on the Hopper 3, so usually my only other use would be for my 75" set in the man cave.
((O_T))
I'm gonna get a new set next month. I love MULTI-VIEW and need a little more screen real estate for the 4 squares. Do you feel the 85" is the sweet spot in terms of size, or a 100", which might be overkill and dominate any great room?
navychop
Errr, ummmm- wife unit!
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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Sheep - Pink Floyd
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Pigs, Sheep and Wolves - Paul Simon
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War Pigs - Black Sabbath
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March Of The Pigs - Nine Inch Nails
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Winds Of March - Journey
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
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KAB
My current one month of HBO ends today. Maybe I'll check it out late summer/fall.
cpalmer2k
It seems like Big Bang Theory characters were dropped into the Walking Dead?
navychop
Well, it's part of my $39/$50 DTV MyEntertainment subscription. So we'll likely give it a try.

Watching the Young Sheldon discs we bought. Transfer was well done.
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MikeD-C05
So a sci-fi / adventure/ comedy. I wonder if any of the original Big Bang Theory people show up anywhere in the multiverse they are traveling to? I could see Sheldon being an evil ruler in one of them.
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teachsac
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
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Howard Simmons
Just a thought, if the Paramount+ Warner merger goes thru they have been saying that HBO Max would merge into Paramount+. Just saying.
navychop
Then what happens to it's inclusion in DTV MyEntertainment?
ncted
Then what happens to it's inclusion in DTV MyEntertainment?
Far too early to say as the merger hasn't even been rubber-stamped yet. That said, given how long it has taken Disney to merge Hulu into Disney+ and what a cluster it was when Zaslav merged HBO and Discovery, you'd think they would be deliberate in whatever steps they take. If Paramount aren't careful, Netflix and Apple will eat their lunch when it comes to premium content audience share.
comfortably_numb
3 months free MGM+ for Tmobile and Metro PCS customers

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Howard Simmons
Also on this subject some of these deals are for two months so don't forget to cancel after you subscribe. That's where they get You.
comfortably_numb
Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
I'm still experimenting with OTA antennas at my new apartment. The mudflap works OK, but we had a dust/wind/rain storm the other day and it all but blew it away. I moved it indoors where the antenna is safer but the signals are marginal.

I bought a traditional Yagi antenna from Amazon and it seems to work more consistently, plus it's meant for outdoors where the mudflap is not.

Anyway, I've had success using umbrella bases paired with a fence post for satellite dishes, and I figured that could work for this as well. I'm just not sure where or what to get and what size pole for this application.

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TRG
I'm still experimenting with OTA antennas at my new apartment. The mudflap works OK, but we had a dust/wind/rain storm the other day and it all but blew it away. I moved it indoors where the antenna is safer but the signals are marginal.

I bought a traditional Yagi antenna from Amazon and it seems to work more consistently, plus it's meant for outdoors where the mudflap is not.

Anyway, I've had success using umbrella bases paired with a fence post for satellite dishes, and I figured that could work for this as well. I'm just not sure where or what to get and what size pole for this application.

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Go to Home Depot and buy a length of "Top Rail" used in making chain link fences. I used a 10' section to mount my Winegard which is probably 4X the size of the yagi you bought from Amazon. It's been up for 15+ years of NM springtime winds and storms with no issues. They make 2 sizes. 1 3/8" and 1 5/8" diameter. Do you have a balcony railing you can clamp to?

BTW does that antenna do VHF HI or is it just UHF?
comfortably_numb
BTW does that antenna do VHF HI or is it just UHF?

It does great on VHF. KOAT and KQRE come in good outside

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TRG
I'm pretty sure this is what I used. Dang, the prices sure have gone up. I think I paid $8 15 years ago. :eeek

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I suppose PVC would probably work also?
Foxbat
I suppose PVC would probably work also?
Yeah, I guess so. I've never tried that though. I'd be concerned with UV deterioration from the NM sun. Some PVC may be UV resistant. I just don't know.
I would be concerned with the heat and its effect on bending of the PVC. I would think at the 1-1/2" O.D. even Schedule 80 wouldn't be stiff enough to prevent movement in a strong wind. It might be too much movement and deteriorate ATSC reception if it's much more than 4' long.
comfortably_numb
What is the stuff installers use to seal the area around coax point of entry? The Comcast guy used it to seal his RG6 run for broadband. I want to do that for my antenna line..

It's like a clear plastic goo that hardens in a short period of time
primestar31
What is the stuff installers use to seal the area around coax point of entry? The Comcast guy used it to seal his RG6 run for broadband. I want to do that for my antenna line..

It's like a clear plastic goo that hardens in a short period of time
It's called "Coax-Seal". I keep a couple rolls, as it always comes in handy.

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I would be concerned with the heat and its effect on bending of the PVC. I would think at the 1-1/2" O.D. even Schedule 80 wouldn't be stiff enough to prevent movement in a strong wind. It might be too much movement and deteriorate ATSC reception if it's much more than 4' long.
For what it's worth, I've been using a piece of 1-1/4 white PVC well pipe to mount a 90cm dish to a 4x4 post as a temporary mount. Almost 9 years later it's still there and has not degraded in the sun (CT sun might not be as harsh as in NM, but still, that thing is in the sun for most of the day)
comfortably_numb
One of my coworkers found a 6-foot piece of top rail in the garage today.

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dennispap
It does great on VHF. KOAT and KQRE come in good outside

I saw your post and I bought the exact antenna hoping to get, specifically, the vhf stations near me but it didn't work.
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comfortably_numb
I saw your post and I bought the exact antenna hoping to get, specifically, the vhf stations near me but it didn't work.

How far are you from the towers? Are there any obstacles in the way?
Jimbo
It's called "Coax-Seal". I keep a couple rolls, as it always comes in handy.

Thats another option