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raj2001

Last reply Feb 4, 2013 · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

Going back to DirecTV, HR34, RVU smart TV and more

Hi everyone!

I've been around here a while but dropped off pretty much since I canceled DirecTV in 2006 and went with cable.

Now after Hurricane Sandy killed cable while the power was out I am reconsidering DirecTV due to power outage reliability. I also use Windows Media Center and Microsoft has pretty much made it a legacy product.

So I am hoping to migrate to DirecTV with the HR34 Genie system.

But I also got a Samsung RVU capable smart TV and was hoping to use it as well.

So my questions:

When setting up the initial install, do I have to call DirecTV and explain the whole RVU TV thing? I assume so because I don't see anything on their website. I would be a "new" customer since I haven't had DirecTV service in 6 years.

Is there a lease fee even if I supply my own equipment (RVU TV?) From what I was reading this is the case, but I'm not so sure.

Is DECA the only way to connect my smart TV to use RVU? I have gig ethernet and Cat6 throughout my house, but I understand that DirecTV wants DECA. How would I use the other smart features that require internet connectivity in that case? I have coax too but was hoping I could use the gigabit ethernet.

For additional receivers, I see that i can choose regular HD receivers. I may do that for one TV which is in a guest room. I have guests a few times per year that just leave the TV on live TV all day watching Lifetime or other channels. I would rather not tie up a genie tuner, and not hit the 3 simultaneous TVs limit. Any downside to this, apart from the $99 up front?

Bonus question: I am also installing a Tracvision receiver in a vehicle we are purchasing. This is one of the main reasons we are looking to DirecTV actually. But I understand that I can't put it on the account if I want distant networks (and will have to pay for a separate account?), and will lose locals when we go out of area. This is bad for us since we live right on the edge of the NYC DMA. Any ideas here?

Not really interested in Dish, as they don't carry Sprout which is a must have channel for the kids. The hopper seems nice though.

Sorry for the long post!

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texasbrit

Nov 23, 2012

There is an additional receiver fee for an RVU TV, same as for all devices ($6 per month I believe). You MUST have SWM and whole home to use the HR34 and clients - why would you not want to use that for the DirecTv stuff? You can retain your ethernet for other devices.

If you take one of your receivers with you in the RV, there are a couple of issues. First, it has to be compatible with the tracvision dish which means not the H25 because that only works with SWM. Second, you are correct you would normally lose locals once you get out of the spotbeam. But if your service address is in the NYC DMA, the major networks (ABC, CBS, NBC Fox) plus YES, MSG and SNY are on CONUS (national) transponders so you will be able to receive them anywhere.

raj2001

Nov 24, 2012

texasbrit said:
There is an additional receiver fee for an RVU TV, same as for all devices ($6 per month I believe). You MUST have SWM and whole home to use the HR34 and clients - why would you not want to use that for the DirecTv stuff? You can retain your ethernet for other devices.

I hate the idea of using MoCA. I already have Cat6 throughout the house. It would be one less coax to connect, and theoretically I can move the TV elsewhere when needed.

If you take one of your receivers with you in the RV, there are a couple of issues. First, it has to be compatible with the tracvision dish which means not the H25 because that only works with SWM. Second, you are correct you would normally lose locals once you get out of the spotbeam. But if your service address is in the NYC DMA, the major networks (ABC, CBS, NBC Fox) plus YES, MSG and SNY are on CONUS (national) transponders so you will be able to receive them anywhere.

No, we'll be getting the Tracvision receiver for the RV. From what I understand, Tracvision uses GPS to determine whether you are in DMA and shuts off locals once you are outside. You can pay $11/month for distants but from what I understand you also need a separate account which means paying double for home and mobile.

Jimbo

Nov 25, 2012

raj2001 said:
I hate the idea of using MoCA. I already have Cat6 throughout the house. It would be one less coax to connect, and theoretically I can move the TV elsewhere when needed.

No, we'll be getting the Tracvision receiver for the RV. From what I understand, Tracvision uses GPS to determine whether you are in DMA and shuts off locals once you are outside. You can pay $11/month for distants but from what I understand you also need a separate account which means paying double for home and mobile.

What recvr is the Trac Vision asking for you to use ?
I think it use to be the D-12 maybe .... I'll be damn if I'm gonna put a recvr in the Motor Home thats not a DVR.

Also, I would not want SD in the MH.... I think the tracvision is SD only as I believe it only hits 1 Sat (101) unless they've upgraded hugely since I looked last ....
Fwiw, I'm still waiting for a version that handles the 99,101 and 103 Sats for under $1000, with Auto Set Up, meaning I don't have to mess with it, like the Vu Cube is for example.

raj2001

Feb 3, 2013

Just an update to close the loop on this one.

I got my DirecTV installed. I got a HR34 (genie) and I used the DirecTV coax networking but I got the Pace C31 clients (3 of them). The installer put a BB DECA to connect to my home network and internet. He did the cabling for that pretty sloppy but I'll fix it in due course. This is in lieu of using the HR34's ethernet jack. HR34 also gets its internet via that DECA. I reused my home wiring which is pretty new (2010) and in-wall, neat and tested. He actually was impressed by the whole wiring setup and his job went pretty smoothly.

I tried swapping my RVU TV in place of one of the clients. I didn't use a separate DECA for it. It was already connected to the network via cat6 cable. So basically it went HR34 -> DECA -> Gigabit switch -> RVU TV. It worked but I ended up switching back to the C31 for that TV because I didn't have the RC70x remote and there are other issues such as audio sync. The C31 is pretty nice and I can hide it away in my cabinet.

The tracvision was activated and went pretty good. The receiver is a M10 and is SD only. That is OK. The HD tracvision systems are really expensive and they don't do very well in motion if at all. I don't really need HD except at home. If I wanted distants I'd need a separate account so I'm not bothering with that. The system actually does multiple sats (not all at once).

raj2001

Feb 3, 2013

Also I used the costco and referral offers so I got a good deal for the first 10 months or so.

Jimbo

Feb 3, 2013

raj2001 said:
Just an update to close the loop on this one.

I got my DirecTV installed. I got a HR34 (genie) and I used the DirecTV coax networking but I got the Pace C31 clients (3 of them). The installer put a BB DECA to connect to my home network and internet. He did the cabling for that pretty sloppy but I'll fix it in due course. This is in lieu of using the HR34's ethernet jack. HR34 also gets its internet via that DECA. I reused my home wiring which is pretty new (2010) and in-wall, neat and tested. He actually was impressed by the whole wiring setup and his job went pretty smoothly.

I tried swapping my RVU TV in place of one of the clients. I didn't use a separate DECA for it. It was already connected to the network via cat6 cable. So basically it went HR34 -> DECA -> Gigabit switch -> RVU TV. It worked but I ended up switching back to the C31 for that TV because I didn't have the RC70x remote and there are other issues such as audio sync. The C31 is pretty nice and I can hide it away in my cabinet.

The tracvision was activated and went pretty good. The receiver is a M10 and is SD only. That is OK. The HD tracvision systems are really expensive and they don't do very well in motion if at all. I don't really need HD except at home. If I wanted distants I'd need a separate account so I'm not bothering with that. The system actually does multiple sats (not all at once).

There is a unit out that does do all the Sats required at the same time, it's basically a SL3 set up.
However, like you said, its still VERY EXPENSIVE.

raj2001

Feb 4, 2013

It's 10 grand or thereabouts. That's mind boggling and I think only someone who has a luxury yacht would be buying such an antenna.

And you can't even get locals with that setup on a boat.

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SuperDish_Fan23

Last reply 40 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!

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HipKat

Today at 8:55 AM

I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.

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AZ.

Today at 9:02 AM

Well if it is because of reliability that wouldnt shock me.I went through 5 or 6 of them in little over 2 years. I loved the Sling when it worked! Saved lots of money having it in the day. That was probably 15 or 16 years ago?

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telstar_1

Today at 1:22 PM

HipKat said:
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.

I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.

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Nominal

Today at 4:30 PM

telstar_1 said:
I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.

You are thinking of the 921. The 922 was the first DVR with Sling functionality built in (that was eventually disabled along with the Sling Adapter for the 722s and the 1st Hopper because they relied on now-defunct Adobe Flash technology). With the bugginess described by others and the removal of its marquee feature (Sling) the 922 faded into obscurity once the Hopper 2 with built in Sling was released and they finally made the concept into a fully functional product.

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dishdude

40 minutes ago

I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.

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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply Today at 4:16 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles

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ClarkGable said:
Take It To The Limit - The Eagles

The two instances of "The" should have been highlighted.

Take Me to the River - Talking Heads

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Blinded By The Light - Manfred Mann's Earth Band

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Last reply Today at 4:07 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

DISH Hopper 3 Software Version 713 Is Out

No idea what improvements might be involved.

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bookworm370

Saturday at 3:17 PM

Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.

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naptime

Yesterday at 1:05 AM

I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

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reubenray

Yesterday at 6:14 AM

bookworm370 said:
Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.

My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 1:01 PM

reubenray said:
My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning.

Had a customer call recently saying their remote was really acting up, some buttons no longer functioned. Told them to reboot the Hopper....problem fixed.
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"

https://www.amazon.com/Have-Tried-Turning-Again-T-Shirt/dp/B07G1ZV9W9/ref=sr_1_11?crid=3NNRAEED195WV&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.86TxUTPcw48CRYlDcLntwpMxbPDBfjiLu4wMZGX3VN6ajG_cFCuoDBJT7pS9CW2mjThKlke5Z6dlXH8bJKkQF4s892wGVU1ca_00S0BQz6F15V30_4szIdWeycvw3_zoVtsULQASM8bGcgvsKms930xApC43y_-YBVN0Q8Xsf_csSqXcmhWpresARdXHfx2VazllrXI8asduvrbnk9S3CGnzjqnVTkjzFSpSQLdQKA6Dx_7UfbQIBBJsqAmQwwtDGqM0YKVIkjV4ARgVJvJ69vLPhxV0m8pkJQd_2w_QX_A.-jSy9OqrqWdxPBsgZGia1hHMbvDAKxxhRn9kK1EBdCc&dib_tag=se&keywords=have%2Byou%2Btried%2Bturning%2Bit%2Boff%2Band%2Bon%2Bagain&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1792342839&sprefix=have%2Byou%2Btried%2B%2Caps%2C265&sr=8-11&customId=B0752XJYNL&customizationToken=MC_Assembly_1%23B0752XJYNL&th=1&psc=1

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 7:14 PM

dishstaller said:
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"

Here's the one I need:

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 10:15 PM

Foxbat said:
Here's the one I need:

View attachment 194877

Just ordered one....that's great.

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jsmit86

Today at 9:57 AM

naptime said:
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

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long_time_Dish

Today at 3:57 PM

jsmit86 said:
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin

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Almighty1

Today at 4:07 PM

jsmit86 said:
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.

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dfergie

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Last reply Today at 4:01 PM · posted in What's Cooking?

What's For Lunch?

We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so...

Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...

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Oct 10, 2026

Two Chicago style hot dogs and a Fanta orange soda.

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Oct 12, 2026

Little mini pepperoni pizza, green beans, apples and chocolate milk.

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Oct 12, 2026

TRG said:
Fanta orange soda.

Sitting in fridge cooling off, bought 1 along with 2 Mexican Cokes at La Tienda... (I keep a few cokes stashed as well as in fridge and camper fridge)

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Today at 2:17 PM

Garlic cheese bread
Green beans
Apples
Chocolate Milk
Some weird noodles.

(They have salad and a couple other fruits if wanted)

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Stargate SG-1 Discussion

Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed

Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner

The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
Source Gateworld

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dfergie

Sep 10, 2026

The Tokra pt 1, I know pt 2 will be next...
(came across on Pluto tv live, went to media server for "clean" version)

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reubenray

Today at 1:30 PM

I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?

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long_time_Dish

Today at 3:47 PM

reubenray said:
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?

Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.

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reubenray

Today at 3:54 PM

long_time_Dish said:
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.

Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.

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Last reply Today at 2:37 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish 4K Event Listings (No Discussion)

This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.

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Bobby

Tuesday at 8:48 PM

MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.

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CFB, Notre Dame at BYU, Saturday 10-27, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.

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NASCAR, Freeway Insurance 500, Sunday 10-18, 12PM PDT, Channel 148-04.

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CFB, Ohio State at Indiana, Saturday 10-17, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona State at Texas Tech, Saturday 10-17, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.

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Ramy

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Last reply Today at 2:11 PM · posted in The Sports Section

2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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Yesterday at 6:19 AM

A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.

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Yesterday at 6:34 PM

Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"

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osu1991 said:
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.

. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!

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Today at 2:11 PM

Mike0616 said:
They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!

Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.

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