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First I am in Minnesota, I believe I have the skew and elevation set correctly for my location.
If a 211K is not intended to work with a DPP LNB 1K.2 without a DPP44 switch then you can probably ignore all the details below and confirm that I need that switch. Or some other three satellite dish setup.
I am trying to use 211K's because I want HD in each room which is why I am avoiding the dual tuner boxes.
Here are the symptoms I am seeing.
I replaced my Dish500 antenna with used Turbo HD Dish and used 1K.2 LNB.
I cannot get satellite 110. Maybe one of the LNBs is dead or hopefully I just don't have it pointed quite right. I have done numerous check switches, it always comes up with 119 and 129 good and nothing for 110.
When I check signal strength using the 211k I get.
When looking for 121 I get 129 at 50+% (I know I don't want 121 but thought it might help diagnose this)
When looking for 129 I get 129 at 50+%
When looking for 119 I get 119 at 50+%
When looking for 110 I get 129 at 50+%, that is not a typo, I get 129 here too.
So, I went up on the roof with a couple of tin cans to cover LNB's and here is what I get. The view is standing behind the dish looking toward the LNB's.
Right two LNBs covered up I get nothing
outside two LNBs covered up I get satellite 129
Left two LNBs covered up I get 119.
I have found conflicting documentation about which of the three LNBs is suposed to be looking at which sattelite.
So I think I have one of three possible problems.
1) That left LNB is pointing at 110 but it is dead
2) I have the dish pointed too far left or right and I am geting just the the right two satellites (119 and 129) instead of all three, leaving that left LNB pointing to nothing.
I am hopefull that this is my problem but I have tried rotating left and right with no success. I am thinking that since satellite 129 comes in when looking for
126, 121, and 110 that might be a hint that I am pointed wrong, just don't know if I should focus more to the east or more to the west.
3) The combination of DPP and 211K is not supported.
I am getting most of the programming that I care about so I am OK for now, family has not complained much yet. However I would like to get 110 into the mix.
Any suggestions would be appreciated?
If a 211K is not intended to work with a DPP LNB 1K.2 without a DPP44 switch then you can probably ignore all the details below and confirm that I need that switch. Or some other three satellite dish setup.
I am trying to use 211K's because I want HD in each room which is why I am avoiding the dual tuner boxes.
Here are the symptoms I am seeing.
I replaced my Dish500 antenna with used Turbo HD Dish and used 1K.2 LNB.
I cannot get satellite 110. Maybe one of the LNBs is dead or hopefully I just don't have it pointed quite right. I have done numerous check switches, it always comes up with 119 and 129 good and nothing for 110.
When I check signal strength using the 211k I get.
When looking for 121 I get 129 at 50+% (I know I don't want 121 but thought it might help diagnose this)
When looking for 129 I get 129 at 50+%
When looking for 119 I get 119 at 50+%
When looking for 110 I get 129 at 50+%, that is not a typo, I get 129 here too.
So, I went up on the roof with a couple of tin cans to cover LNB's and here is what I get. The view is standing behind the dish looking toward the LNB's.
Right two LNBs covered up I get nothing
outside two LNBs covered up I get satellite 129
Left two LNBs covered up I get 119.
I have found conflicting documentation about which of the three LNBs is suposed to be looking at which sattelite.
So I think I have one of three possible problems.
1) That left LNB is pointing at 110 but it is dead
2) I have the dish pointed too far left or right and I am geting just the the right two satellites (119 and 129) instead of all three, leaving that left LNB pointing to nothing.
I am hopefull that this is my problem but I have tried rotating left and right with no success. I am thinking that since satellite 129 comes in when looking for
126, 121, and 110 that might be a hint that I am pointed wrong, just don't know if I should focus more to the east or more to the west.
3) The combination of DPP and 211K is not supported.
I am getting most of the programming that I care about so I am OK for now, family has not complained much yet. However I would like to get 110 into the mix.
Any suggestions would be appreciated?
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boy I'd like to see THAT dish
I already told the OP how they are set up when standing behind the dish....dont confuse them
boy I'd like to see THAT dish
I already told the OP how they are set up when standing behind the dish....dont confuse them
boy I'd like to see THAT dish
I already told the OP how they are set up when standing behind the dish....dont confuse them
it is a custom dish....LMAO......my bad....a few too many beers last night......sorry for the confusion......just a typing error....
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Iceberg said I needed to rotate the dish slightly left and up a smidge, made sense to me. So a few days ago I did that, I went left some and nothing, then up a smidge and nothing. Went up some more and all the way up at 40 degrees elevation I got a signal. Down on the TV it said I had found 129 on all three LNBs. I had seen junk like that in my earlier testing, combined with that the specs said I sould be at 32 degrees elevation I brushed it off as a reflection off the edge of the dish or whatever. I reset the dish back to where I had 119 and 129 before and called it a day as my hands were geting cold.
The more I though about it the more I thought I migh have needed to do a check switch at that point. But I had to do some calculating first. Instead of finally using a compass I dd even better. I calculated the time that the sun would be at an Asmuth of 214 degrees and planned my next attack on the dish for that time. 2:40 PM Then I made the assumption that I was currently in fact pointed directly at 129 I would need to move 10 degrees left, then calculated that the mounting bracket had to turn until I had about 1/8 to 3/16 inch difference in the way the bracket was positioned on the mast to get a 10 degree rotation.
Yesterday at 2:35 I headed to the roof. Made the Axmuth adjustments that I had calculated. Rotation relative to the mast also took it to where it was pointed square at the sun. It was about the same position where I had signal on all 3 satellites a few days earlier. I slowly tilted the elevation up to where I had it a few days earlier which was 40 degrees. My wife said I had signal on all 3 satellites but still no 110 listed for any of the three. I had her start a check switch and headed down. Sure enough, check switch now said I had: 119 110 129 locked and listed in that order. After some additional very minor adjustments I had the followng signals.
All on transponder 21. 119=68, 110=49, 129=57
The thing that still baffles me is my Elevation is set at 40, but the specs say it should be 32 or 32.7 depending where you look. My mast could be off slightly but not more than a degree or two. The elevation bracket had scratches on it like it had been set close to that position before.
Thanks for the help, definetly takes more thinking to point this dish than it did for my dish 500.
Iceberg said I needed to rotate the dish slightly left and up a smidge, made sense to me. So a few days ago I did that, I went left some and nothing, then up a smidge and nothing. Went up some more and all the way up at 40 degrees elevation I got a signal. Down on the TV it said I had found 129 on all three LNBs. I had seen junk like that in my earlier testing, combined with that the specs said I sould be at 32 degrees elevation I brushed it off as a reflection off the edge of the dish or whatever. I reset the dish back to where I had 119 and 129 before and called it a day as my hands were geting cold.
The more I though about it the more I thought I migh have needed to do a check switch at that point. But I had to do some calculating first. Instead of finally using a compass I dd even better. I calculated the time that the sun would be at an Asmuth of 214 degrees and planned my next attack on the dish for that time. 2:40 PM Then I made the assumption that I was currently in fact pointed directly at 129 I would need to move 10 degrees left, then calculated that the mounting bracket had to turn until I had about 1/8 to 3/16 inch difference in the way the bracket was positioned on the mast to get a 10 degree rotation.
Yesterday at 2:35 I headed to the roof. Made the Axmuth adjustments that I had calculated. Rotation relative to the mast also took it to where it was pointed square at the sun. It was about the same position where I had signal on all 3 satellites a few days earlier. I slowly tilted the elevation up to where I had it a few days earlier which was 40 degrees. My wife said I had signal on all 3 satellites but still no 110 listed for any of the three. I had her start a check switch and headed down. Sure enough, check switch now said I had: 119 110 129 locked and listed in that order. After some additional very minor adjustments I had the followng signals.
All on transponder 21. 119=68, 110=49, 129=57
The thing that still baffles me is my Elevation is set at 40, but the specs say it should be 32 or 32.7 depending where you look. My mast could be off slightly but not more than a degree or two. The elevation bracket had scratches on it like it had been set close to that position before.
Thanks for the help, definetly takes more thinking to point this dish than it did for my dish 500.
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Iceberg said I needed to rotate the dish slightly left and up a smidge, made sense to me. So a few days ago I did that, I went left some and nothing, then up a smidge and nothing. Went up some more and all the way up at 40 degrees elevation I got a signal. Down on the TV it said I had found 129 on all three LNBs. I had seen junk like that in my earlier testing, combined with that the specs said I sould be at 32 degrees elevation I brushed it off as a reflection off the edge of the dish or whatever. I reset the dish back to where I had 119 and 129 before and called it a day as my hands were geting cold.
The more I though about it the more I thought I migh have needed to do a check switch at that point. But I had to do some calculating first. Instead of finally using a compass I dd even better. I calculated the time that the sun would be at an Asmuth of 214 degrees and planned my next attack on the dish for that time. 2:40 PM Then I made the assumption that I was currently in fact pointed directly at 129 I would need to move 10 degrees left, then calculated that the mounting bracket had to turn until I had about 1/8 to 3/16 inch difference in the way the bracket was positioned on the mast to get a 10 degree rotation.
Yesterday at 2:35 I headed to the roof. Made the Axmuth adjustments that I had calculated. Rotation relative to the mast also took it to where it was pointed square at the sun. It was about the same position where I had signal on all 3 satellites a few days earlier. I slowly tilted the elevation up to where I had it a few days earlier which was 40 degrees. My wife said I had signal on all 3 satellites but still no 110 listed for any of the three. I had her start a check switch and headed down. Sure enough, check switch now said I had: 119 110 129 locked and listed in that order. After some additional very minor adjustments I had the followng signals.
All on transponder 21. 119=68, 110=49, 129=57
The thing that still baffles me is my Elevation is set at 40, but the specs say it should be 32 or 32.7 depending where you look. My mast could be off slightly but not more than a degree or two. The elevation bracket had scratches on it like it had been set close to that position before.
Thanks for the help, definetly takes more thinking to point this dish than it did for my dish 500.
Congrats on finally getting it dialed in. Your mast is probably off a bit and the scale on the elevation isn't always exactly right.
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cool. Glad you got it working
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cool. Glad you got it working
This started a couple months ago. I have 2 H3s on one network, both with 2 EHD identical 3 TB seperately powered so all recordings are accessible by all 4k & J4s (8 of them).
On one H3 (not the main one that controls the MOCA network), after it reboots, it doesn't recognize it has two EHDs plugged into it. Rebooting the EHD by their power source doesn't fix it. Resetting the network doesn't. Software h3 reset doesn't fix it. Rebooting MOCA h3 doesn't fix it but so far, after 3+ cold boots (unplug pwr to H3 with unrecognized EHDs), it finally it figures out they are plugged into it. BUT.... Then when you open a program it only partially shows series and episodes, but instead of showing recordings, it only shows upcoming airings. HELP!!!!
On one H3 (not the main one that controls the MOCA network), after it reboots, it doesn't recognize it has two EHDs plugged into it. Rebooting the EHD by their power source doesn't fix it. Resetting the network doesn't. Software h3 reset doesn't fix it. Rebooting MOCA h3 doesn't fix it but so far, after 3+ cold boots (unplug pwr to H3 with unrecognized EHDs), it finally it figures out they are plugged into it. BUT.... Then when you open a program it only partially shows series and episodes, but instead of showing recordings, it only shows upcoming airings. HELP!!!!
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Thanks JohnGalt1234 - That's interesting. I wonder are the Boot Strap versions different between a Hopper 3 only and a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup as I have the later. I guess when charlesrshell is able to since he has both setups, he can do the test. Unless the bootstrap version is tied to when the specific Hopper 3 is manufactured, in my case, mines is from February 2016 when it was installed.
At least Google Search AI is saying the bootstrap version will never change and unique to each Hopper 3.
This is probably why different people seem to either have the issue or they don't because the bootstrap code could also be tied to the hardware revision and
components other than the internal HD.
At least Google Search AI is saying the bootstrap version will never change and unique to each Hopper 3.
This is probably why different people seem to either have the issue or they don't because the bootstrap code could also be tied to the hardware revision and
components other than the internal HD.
JohnGalt1234 - So you basically have 2 Hopper 3's. The CasinoH3 is the one that is Hopper 3 only while Master Bedroom is a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup.
Master Bedroom uses Android TV (ATV) software so the DISH part is actually a app and will behave differently as you can probably tell the Guide's are different on the Master Bedroom which will resemble the same guide used on other ATV devices such as the Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4. If I am correct, the CasinoH3 is the one with the problem since you did say the one dated 09/05/2026 is the naughty one while 08/15/2026 named Master Bedroom is the nice one. Usually I would expect the CasinoH3 to be the one without the problem because it's Hopper 3 only and Master Bedroom would be the one with problems because it has the Hopper Plus involved. That is why they behave differently because CasinoH3 is running the native Hopper 3 software while Master Bedroom is running the Android TV software and also it runs a app called DISH known as package com.dish.atv.launcher, the version for mines is P15403 2026100917 so it's probably the same version as the Hopper Plus software version with the date of October 9, 2026, not sure what the 17 means except maybe revision 17?
This explains it better than I can. Sorry, had to take all the ads out.
Master Bedroom uses Android TV (ATV) software so the DISH part is actually a app and will behave differently as you can probably tell the Guide's are different on the Master Bedroom which will resemble the same guide used on other ATV devices such as the Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4. If I am correct, the CasinoH3 is the one with the problem since you did say the one dated 09/05/2026 is the naughty one while 08/15/2026 named Master Bedroom is the nice one. Usually I would expect the CasinoH3 to be the one without the problem because it's Hopper 3 only and Master Bedroom would be the one with problems because it has the Hopper Plus involved. That is why they behave differently because CasinoH3 is running the native Hopper 3 software while Master Bedroom is running the Android TV software and also it runs a app called DISH known as package com.dish.atv.launcher, the version for mines is P15403 2026100917 so it's probably the same version as the Hopper Plus software version with the date of October 9, 2026, not sure what the 17 means except maybe revision 17?
This explains it better than I can. Sorry, had to take all the ads out.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Nah, you just don't understand how ignore works, which is why you made your own NFL thread thinking there wasn't one
Was thinking same thing. It should be a good week for sec shorts and roll callThey ought to have fun with this…
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A continuation of a thread from the pub, just general discussion of AI.
Brief 60 minute clip about next gem autonomous fighters - not remote controlled, but rather collaborating with controllers and aircraft in the theater.
View: https://youtu.be/DRm0mbp_n1k
We've literally got a movie already about this
View: https://youtu.be/a2PW7a9ViDc
Brief 60 minute clip about next gem autonomous fighters - not remote controlled, but rather collaborating with controllers and aircraft in the theater.
View: https://youtu.be/DRm0mbp_n1k
We've literally got a movie already about this
View: https://youtu.be/a2PW7a9ViDc
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Oops.
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AI Agent Blamed for Deleting Entire Upcoming Season of TV Show
An AI agent reportedly deleted the entire final cut of the upcoming season of a Swedish reality competition show.
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I was watching some of this guy's stuff and realized some of you may not be familiar. Basically his show is Candid Camera meets a magician. This is a comp of a few of his exploits. I first learned of him when I was out at a meeting in Denver about 10yrs ago. The men I was sitting at the table with started talking about this show and said it was one of the funniest things they had seen. When I got home I started watching it....yes, it is funny.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIU09F8jdwc
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
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So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
Understanding the TPN Map
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
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Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8
Understanding the TPN Map
Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.
I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Tony as the director.
Would you rather have LaRoche ???Tony as the director.
No. Bring in someone new.
Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...No. Bring in someone new.
Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)
Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.
Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.
It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
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Please post your remote make/model here and any details of your issue. We are looking to collect as many examples as possible. I may reach out to you for your receiver number, but please do not post it here.
If you've already reported this to me, please repost it here so I can track all instances in one thread.
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If you've already reported this to me, please repost it here so I can track all instances in one thread.
Thanks!
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I was having similar issues last night while watching and recording the NLCS game on 148. When I tried resuming the game at one point the screen went blank and I couldn't get my H3 to respond to any remote commands. Eventually the Hopper went to a HD channel but still no remote response. After a while the Hopper went into a re-boot cycle. This happened at least 3 times. I was using an IR universal remote only.
A little frustrating to have the game broken up like that but at least the Brewers won
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Anyone making their own breakfast sausage? I've recently been trying different recipes, found some I like, some I've modified...
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