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NEED HELP!! I live in a condo complex where currenty dishes are not allowed, although in the past they were allowed, so several people already have dishes. The board has appointed a committee to review this policy and I volunteered to research the issue and make recommendations. I think I have an uphill battle though since a couple of people on the committee are very strict "by the book" people and they are against it just because "it's written." (it's almost like the line in Life of Brian... Brian: mum, why aren't women allowed to go to stonings? Mum: It's written, that's why!!!) They also dont' care about satellite and think the dishes are just an eyesore.

Naturally I want them allowed, even though with voom dying I'm switching to cable.

We have about 50 buildings and they are all 2 story with slanted roofs with shingles on them. It's not like a highrise. It's a very large spread out complex, more like what are known as garden apartments rather than large condo buildings.

The main issues they have against them are

1. aesthetics. A lot of people find them ugly. They are also concerned that if they are explicitly allowed, we will suddenly have dishes all over the place and they will make the complex look ugly. Also, they don't like the idea of cables running all over the place.

2. Safety. We're in a hurricane zone and they are concerned about dishes flying all over during a storm. Also, how do insurance companies handle damage done by dishes in a condo/apt building that allows them?

3. Structural damage. Concern over damage done by the install process and the holes left behind once the dishes are removed.

4. Property value. I guess this is a combination of all the above. Does property value suffer if dishes are all over the place?

These are their primary concerns.

As for aesthetics, personally I think that nowadays you see dishes all over the place and they are common. Some people despise anything modern and think they are just ugly contraptions. Unfortunately, these types of people are often the most vocal in meetings and are the only ones that get heard.

As for safety, I was under the impression that if properly installed, dishes are rated at 120mph winds. Can anyone confirm this? Any documentation you can point me to?

As for structural damage and property value, I really don't know.

Given that the FCC legally allows anyone to install a dish on their patio as long as they face the right direction, I think it's unfair to not allow others to also install dishes. I don't think it's right to force those without a southern view to either choose adelphia cable(blech!!) or rabbit ears.

Are there any other options? For example, our complex is very large and has about 50 buildings. Each building has about 15 units. I know there are ways to feed an entire building like this with one or two dishes, but how feasible would it really be? How expensive would it be to install something like this? I personally don't like this idea because it would make the association responsible for installing it. I think we have better things to spend our money on that providing satellite services to some people that might actually prefer cable or nothing at all. I think whoever wants a dish should simply be able to get one, and if they don't want one, fine.

Personally, I think dishes should be allowed as long as they are professionally installed by a certified installer (no do-it-yourself installs unless the person is certified), and the cables are run unobtrusively and the dishes are mounted as unobtrusively and inconspicuously as possible.

Anyways, I need suggestions, opinions and information from anyone willing to give them. I have 3 days to put this together, so any help will be greatly appreciated. If there are any reports anyone knows of concerning these things like property values, insurance, wind speed ratings for dishes, etc... they would be very helpful.
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That's the dumbest thing I have ever heard. A 30 foot pole in a bucket???

With other options available, you're right. But sometimes, when condo associations go into "bully" mode and make life difficult, it's nice to know that individual unit owners still have a nuclear bomb or two to drop on them and tell them to f**k off. Can you think of *anything* more tantalizingly delicious than having the FCC's blessing to go around a condo board that says, "no" and exercise an inalienable right to erect something that looks a HUNDRED times worse than the setup they said "no" to? (particularly when there are enough neighbors with wrong-facing balconies/patios who want satellite to applaud, but not enough to override a board determined to vigorously resist any and all efforts to permit even the slightest deviation from the norm).
biggestdave
Dish Rock

This got me past my HOA.


Do a google search for "dish network rock cover".


You will have to find a place to put it but it works well...

Good luck.
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cool. I'll check it out.

Any other suggestions? I don't want to hit them over the head with the FCC rules since they're already aware of them and are really not objecting to dishes mounted on private patios.

I just need to convince them to be nice and allow those who don't have a southwest facing patio to mount them on the roof (common area).
dodge
Dishes in condo's

I have a suggestion
Move, I hate condo's apartment's and townhomes, too many rules, too many restrictions, too many association fee's and people who bit#ch about stupid things, get house and put lots of antennas and dishes on it and enjoy that wonderful television
L
dodge, unfortunately that's not an option. I live in miami where the price of real estate has skyrocketed like you cannot imagine. I would love to be able to move somewhere else, but consider that even a small 2 bedroom apt that in reality is worth about 110K is selling here for 200K and up at the moment. With those prices, many middle class people have been priced right out of the market here. I can't even afford a townhouse. The ratty ones start at about 200K right now. Condos are my only choice unless I move out of miami (which is certainly an option I have given serious consideration to).

Basically, I'm stuck with what I've got.
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ewindowman
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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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nelson61
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Scott Greczkowski
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Can't remember where or who I saw predict this. :D

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Bruce
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
Scott Greczkowski
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Bruce
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
Bruce
Bruce
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
If Musk really wants to buy Boost, he might get a great price once Dish Wireless is out of Chapter 11.

Boost just lost 182,000 subs in the 3rd quarter-

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Is Dish like Iran in one way...they both will totally collapse by end of week :)
Foxbat
Other than the price, my experience with Boost is not that different than what I experienced with my years with Cricket. I will be curious to see what happens if SpaceX takes the reins.
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Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
dish has new sats dtv does not
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Shooz - Styx
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Too Much Time on My Hands - Styx
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Time Has Come Today - The Chambers Brothers
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No Time - The Guess Who
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TIME Won't Let Me-The Outsiders
dishstaller
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dishstaller
Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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dfergie
I loved it when Rodney was on the Tonight Show...
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Foxbat
Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
Thanks, I wasn't sure if you had the wrong Subject or the wrong YouTube link.
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osu1991
Was a Don Rickles fan. I've dvr'd most of his appearances on Carson from the antenna tv replays.

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dishstaller
More Dangerfield rapid fire on Carson.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scEQFHQHHhU
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dishdude
Rodney Dangerfield is great. One of his best one liners - "My wife likes to talk to me during sex, last night she called me from Florida!"

Jackie Gleason is another one of the greats.


View: https://youtu.be/ciUV77AzIB4
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
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primestar31

Wait, didn't this one come out a few years ago? It was all in Japanese. It was also VERY good!

OK, looked it up, that was Godzilla Minus One
Bruce
Wait, didn't this one come out a few years ago? It was all in Japanese. It was also VERY good!

OK, looked it up, that was Godzilla Minus One
At theaters, only in Japanese, on Disc and Netflix, available in English.
Foxbat
New trailer has dropped:
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long_time_Dish
Looks good! I'm interested...