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OK, I'm just about ready to move up to a hopper and two joeys from my 722. I still have a few questions that I haven't seen answered in this forum.
First, my hopper will be in family room with big screen HDTV, one Joey will be in home office with HDTV and other Joey will be in Master Bedroom with small HDTV. I also want to mirror the MBR to a small old set in the master bath. I will be purchasing a modulator for the hopper, but will this work? I don't have any problem with my 722 because I use the modulator out (with a 10db amp) to send the tuner one signal (73) and the tuner two signal (75) to several older sets around the house. I have seen several post about only being able to mirror live TV??? Exactly what gets broadcast through the hopper composite ports?
Secondly, what does the hopper / joey deliver in resolution -- 1080 or 720? and what happens if I purchase an OTA module for the hopper -- will I lose the "true" HD that I get from my OTA when it is directly input to my HDTV bypassing the old 722? I can really tell a big difference only when watching sports like football OTA rather than through the 722.
First, my hopper will be in family room with big screen HDTV, one Joey will be in home office with HDTV and other Joey will be in Master Bedroom with small HDTV. I also want to mirror the MBR to a small old set in the master bath. I will be purchasing a modulator for the hopper, but will this work? I don't have any problem with my 722 because I use the modulator out (with a 10db amp) to send the tuner one signal (73) and the tuner two signal (75) to several older sets around the house. I have seen several post about only being able to mirror live TV??? Exactly what gets broadcast through the hopper composite ports?
Secondly, what does the hopper / joey deliver in resolution -- 1080 or 720? and what happens if I purchase an OTA module for the hopper -- will I lose the "true" HD that I get from my OTA when it is directly input to my HDTV bypassing the old 722? I can really tell a big difference only when watching sports like football OTA rather than through the 722.
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[h=3]VIP 722 and Local OTA Digital Channels[/h] 
by fharris770 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:42 am
I just added an OTA antenna outside. When directly attached to my HD TV it finds multiple channels. All four network affiliates as well as about 8 others. The signal strength of the local varies from about 70% to 98%. All display and look great on the TV. When I attach the antenna to my Dish receiver and do a search it does not find any of the channels. The receiver is old so I don't have the complete manual, but I did notice it seems to page through just the 2 digit channels from 02 through 69.
Anybody out there who can give me an idea, or is the tuner not capable of tuning the 02.1, 05.1, 11.1 etc???
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[h=3]Re: VIP 722 and Local OTA Digital Channels[/h]by pjw1967 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:56 pm
Jumping in before our hosts, but I have a 722 non-k with the built in OTA module. The receiver is at least 4 years old if not older. The 722 picks up most of the OTA channels. I use a splitter to feed the TV directly and the line up is about the same. When you hook it up directly to the TV, does it pick up the secondary channnels like 8.2, 8.3 etc?
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[h=3]Re: VIP 722 and Local OTA Digital Channels[/h]by fharris770 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:52 pm
I have similar setup. The OTA antenna has a power base that allows you to move the antenna as well as boosts the signal and it has two outputs. One goes directly to the TV the other directly to the ANT port on the back of my 722. I assume I also have the module referenced as there is the scan function in the menu options.
Yes, the TV direct scan found multiple channels. 8.1, 8.2 and 8.3 were all local PBS OTA channels. 17.1 is the TBS feed, etc. All had very good signal strength. The 722 just did not find any of them.
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[h=3]Re: VIP 722 and Local OTA Digital Channels[/h]by Raymond G. » Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:41 pm
DISH equipment will not detect the OTA sub channels. If you would like to be able to access the OTA sub channels you will need to connect your OTA antenna directly to the TV.
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Above posted from DISH NETWORK forum last November. Not really sure exactly what I did last November, but really doesn't matter now. I am ordering Hopper, etc. But according to the tech from that forum the OTA in my VIP722 will not turn subs. I seem to remember that after a scan some of the found locals appeared in my guide, but displayed in YELLOW and my 722 (not a 722K) would not tune them.
by fharris770 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:42 am I just added an OTA antenna outside. When directly attached to my HD TV it finds multiple channels. All four network affiliates as well as about 8 others. The signal strength of the local varies from about 70% to 98%. All display and look great on the TV. When I attach the antenna to my Dish receiver and do a search it does not find any of the channels. The receiver is old so I don't have the complete manual, but I did notice it seems to page through just the 2 digit channels from 02 through 69.
Anybody out there who can give me an idea, or is the tuner not capable of tuning the 02.1, 05.1, 11.1 etc???
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[h=3]Re: VIP 722 and Local OTA Digital Channels[/h]
by pjw1967 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:56 pm Jumping in before our hosts, but I have a 722 non-k with the built in OTA module. The receiver is at least 4 years old if not older. The 722 picks up most of the OTA channels. I use a splitter to feed the TV directly and the line up is about the same. When you hook it up directly to the TV, does it pick up the secondary channnels like 8.2, 8.3 etc?
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[h=3]Re: VIP 722 and Local OTA Digital Channels[/h]
by fharris770 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:52 pm I have similar setup. The OTA antenna has a power base that allows you to move the antenna as well as boosts the signal and it has two outputs. One goes directly to the TV the other directly to the ANT port on the back of my 722. I assume I also have the module referenced as there is the scan function in the menu options.
Yes, the TV direct scan found multiple channels. 8.1, 8.2 and 8.3 were all local PBS OTA channels. 17.1 is the TBS feed, etc. All had very good signal strength. The 722 just did not find any of them.
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[h=3]Re: VIP 722 and Local OTA Digital Channels[/h]
by Raymond G. » Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:41 pm DISH equipment will not detect the OTA sub channels. If you would like to be able to access the OTA sub channels you will need to connect your OTA antenna directly to the TV.
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Above posted from DISH NETWORK forum last November. Not really sure exactly what I did last November, but really doesn't matter now. I am ordering Hopper, etc. But according to the tech from that forum the OTA in my VIP722 will not turn subs. I seem to remember that after a scan some of the found locals appeared in my guide, but displayed in YELLOW and my 722 (not a 722K) would not tune them.
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This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.
I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.
edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.
As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.
I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.
edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.
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So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.
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I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product onlyUnless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.
I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner.
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Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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I remember this in the news too...
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That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.I remember this in the news too...
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I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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