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I have a family member who has DISH network and I am trying to help them with a situation. They have a Hopper in their main living room. It is then connected to a 46" Samsung HDTV. This HDTV is a real basic model and has absolutely no audio outputs on its rear panel. No analog, no optical, etc. NOTHING. Just two HDMI inputs & a component/composite input.

Now, they haven't been real happy with the sound coming from the Samsung TV and wanted to upgrade this so we got a Samsung sound bar from Best Buy. Since the HDTV has no audio outputs, we are forced to connect the DISH Hopper receiver directly to the sound bar's audio input jack.

However, is there any way to program the Hopper's remote so it can seamlessly control the Samsung sound bar for audio, but still power off the Samsung TV in the usual way (the TV power button on remote). The sound bar came with its own remote for its audio control as well as additional features, but they don't want to have to use this remote at all and only use the Hopper remote. Right now, the Hopper remote is controlling the HDTV's sound, but we want it to control the soundbar sound instead and also accomplish this without having to switch inputs on the Hopper remote too.

Is this doable? I was thinking maybe the AUX input could be programmed for the sound bar, but when we press it, a big notice comes up on the screen (and stays there) basically telling us the AUX device has been selected. They do NOT want to use a universal remote either so it has to be done seemingly and with little effort with the Hopper remote or the Samsung sound bar goes back to the store.
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Dishman1978
Go.into.the menu of the Hopper.

Sellect the settings icon.

Select the remote icon.

Select the AUX button on the far right of the screen.

Select type of audio device.

Select brand.

In order to test you.must put remote into aux mode and press volume up and down. If it works put remote back into sat mode and select yes.

Then scroll to bottom of screen where it says volume (in the remote screen).

Select aux instead of TV.

Select save.

Go back to TV like usual.

Now while in normal operation.mode the volume will control the Soundboard and TV power will control the TV power.

Enjoy.


(I did this all from.memory so if I missed an order of a step or two I am sorry, but I'm sure even with my slight error you can figure it all out.
Scherrman
Well, some sound bars turn on automatically when the TV is powered on. This would allow them to just turn it on the way they are use to.
C
If I were to get a Panasonic sound bar/wireless subwoofer, can the HDMI connection be between the soundbar and the tv, or does the DISH receiver/dvr have to be connected directly to the sound bar?
harshness
Well, some sound bars turn on automatically when the TV is powered on. This would allow them to just turn it on the way they are use to.
This isn't going to help with volume control. That comes from audio "punch through" on the remote itself.

I think we're trying to control power on two separate devices (the TV *AND* the sound bar) here and that's going to require some button pressing.

HDMI CEC may be the answer to controlling the TV (and/or the sound bar) power but I'm not quite sure how it would work.

In the grand scheme, since toggling the TV or sound bar power surely doesn't happen that often so falling back to a different remote for that situation might not be all that insufferable.

Sound bars have always been a pain and the pain it getting more intense as the TVs you would want to use them with are offering no output options.
harshness
If I were to get a Panasonic sound bar/wireless subwoofer, can the HDMI connection be between the soundbar and the tv, or does the DISH receiver/dvr have to be connected directly to the sound bar?
If the TV has no outputs, the sound bar is always going to have to be in the HDMI chain. This is problematic all the way around and gets moreso as you have more source devices to feed through the sound bar. Figuring out Audio Return Channel (often not supported on cheap TVs) is a nightmare on its own.

It doesn't take long before you need a switch to make sure all the sources go through the sound bar and at that point, you're probably better off with a modest AVR and speakers (or a flexible Home Theater speaker system) rather than a single source sound bar.
D
Go.into.the menu of the Hopper.

Sellect the settings icon.

Select the remote icon.

Then scroll to bottom of screen where it says volume (in the remote screen).

Select aux instead of TV.

Select save.

Go back to TV like usual.

Now while in normal operation.mode the volume will control the Soundboard and TV power will control the TV power.

Enjoy.


(I did this all from.memory so if I missed an order of a step or two I am sorry, but I'm sure even with my slight error you can figure it all out.
Thank you for this! This was my biggest annoyance with a 722k, that I had to press Aux just to control my Home Theater volume when the TV volume is not used at all. I asked the installer that upgraded me to Hopper if it was possible to program the Home Theater to the volume buttons and was told no so never dug around the settings myself. Moral of the story, come to SatelliteGuys instead of trusting the installer at their word.
Dishman1978
Thank you for this! This was my biggest annoyance with a 722k, that I had to press Aux just to control my Home Theater volume when the TV volume is not used at all. I asked the installer that upgraded me to Hopper if it was possible to program the Home Theater to the volume buttons and was told no so never dug around the settings myself. Moral of the story, come to SatelliteGuys instead of trusting the installer at their word.
Your welcome.

And actually there is a way to set the 722k remote to default volume to aux also, I just don't remember. (Been over a year since I have worked at dish).

And when it comes to installers knowledge, not all installers take their own time to learn the things that aren't taught in training.

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Bruce Glenn
I have a family member who has DISH network and I am trying to help them with a situation. They have a Hopper in their main living room. It is then connected to a 46" Samsung HDTV. This HDTV is a real basic model and has absolutely no audio outputs on its rear panel. No analog, no optical, etc. NOTHING. Just two HDMI inputs & a component/composite input.

Now, they haven't been real happy with the sound coming from the Samsung TV and wanted to upgrade this so we got a Samsung sound bar from Best Buy. Since the HDTV has no audio outputs, we are forced to connect the DISH Hopper receiver directly to the sound bar's audio input jack.

However, is there any way to program the Hopper's remote so it can seamlessly control the Samsung sound bar for audio, but still power off the Samsung TV in the usual way (the TV power button on remote). The sound bar came with its own remote for its audio control as well as additional features, but they don't want to have to use this remote at all and only use the Hopper remote. Right now, the Hopper remote is controlling the HDTV's sound, but we want it to control the soundbar sound instead and also accomplish this without having to switch inputs on the Hopper remote too.

Is this doable? I was thinking maybe the AUX input could be programmed for the sound bar, but when we press it, a big notice comes up on the screen (and stays there) basically telling us the AUX device has been selected. They do NOT want to use a universal remote either so it has to be done seemingly and with little effort with the Hopper remote or the Samsung sound bar goes back to the store.

Try this:
Go to: Menu > Settings > Remote Manager > Aux Code > Audio Accessory > choose lookup code > Samsung (or your brand soundbar).
Should find correct one on first try. Test out with - + volume keys. If it works for you, then
Go back to remote manager & choose volume to set control volume for aux.
Your Dish remote should now work with your Samsung (or your brand) sound bar.
dfergie
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Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby
Regular$5.699​
Premium$6.199​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
osu1991
Was just out running errands and saw $3.69 at most places
dfergie
$4.04 most places, Diesel $5.85...
Bobby
Regular$5.459​
Premium$5.899​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
dishstaller
Billboard along I-10 had reg at $3.81 and diesel at $5.54
ewindowman
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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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nelson61
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Scott Greczkowski
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.
Can't remember where or who I saw predict this. :D

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Bruce
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
Scott Greczkowski
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Bruce
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
Foxbat
Other than the price, my experience with Boost is not that different than what I experienced with my years with Cricket. I will be curious to see what happens if SpaceX takes the reins.
S
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.
dish has new sats dtv does not
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dish has new sats dtv does not
Hate to say this no one is ordering Satellite TV. Both DISH and Direct no new customers.
After 25 years with centurylink DSL 80 speed i changed to Xfinity 300 speed for $50 wow lightning fast for streaming. Still have DISH 27 years with them. Americas 250 package for $103. What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?
Still dish is easy to operate and change channels. What will Charlie Ergen do with new super satellites with loosing customers with satellites and boost?
comfortably_numb
What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?

NO.
S
Hate to say this no one is ordering Satellite TV. Both DISH and Direct no new customers.
After 25 years with centurylink DSL 80 speed i changed to Xfinity 300 speed for $50 wow lightning fast for streaming. Still have DISH 27 years with them. Americas 250 package for $103. What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?
Still dish is easy to operate and change channels. What will Charlie Ergen do with new super satellites with loosing customers with satellites and boost?
While I agree but dish just launched a new sat. That can be used as an asset for Elon. Maybe he will repurpose em for his cell service. And if he wants tv to. God knows why he would but I think he will get a great deal on the contracts in place and equipment!!! I could think of better things to spend my money on. And to be honest Elon has nothing to offer me have blazing fast internet and ill never buy an ev. The veesee box and the super box are illegal.
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osu1991
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Howard Simmons

I think I found my new Christmas movie.😍🌲
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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TIME Won't Let Me-The Outsiders
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Time In A Bottle - Jim Croce
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Message in a Bottle - The Police
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Knights In White Satin - The Moody Blues
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The Topical Song - The Barron Knights
Bruce
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Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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ncted
Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?
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Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?
yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration
(((Garyd)))
yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration
The fiber coming in to the house looks like 300 ohm old TV wire I think that is the weak point.
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The fiber coming in to the house looks like 300 ohm old TV wire I think that is the weak point.
I agree, even it fails the isp will come and install another one
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Bruce
Charter lost 77,000 TV subscribers, the bigger news, it lost 233,000 broadband subscribers.

You would believe both companies would of learned from what happened with their TV services, which was ignore that cord cutting was a thing, allowed competition ( streaming) to get a foothold in the industry.

Now, in today's world, there are more households in the United States without a paid live TV than those with.

Both companies charge too much, delayed upgrades, all because they believed no one would leave them, only game in town, competition started with the 5G services, Fiber soon after, enough said, Cord Cutting 2.0 is here.

dishstaller
Got to admit I never thought I'd see the day that cable lost internet subs.
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Ronnie-
Got to admit I never thought I'd see the day that cable lost internet subs.
I think the cable companies didnt either, back when they had no real competition in their footprint.

But today, for many, maybe even most, cable isnt the only choice, or even the best.
NYDutch
I think the cable companies didnt either, back when they had no real competition in their footprint.

But today, for many, maybe even most, cable isnt the only choice, or even the best.
In my new apartment, my only choice is Spectrum due to the cost, just $30/mo for 100 Mbps service. And just the other day, I received a notice that I can have Amazon Prime at no cost through Spectrum. I already had Prime, but when I activated the Spectrum deal, I received a $75 refund on my annual subscription. I don't know how widespread the offer is being made, but it sure looks like they're trying to hang on to Internet subscribers.
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b4pjoe
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harshness
That didn't take long. I suspect that in the back of their minds, Fox always regretted its partnership with Hulu.

I can't imagine what they're going to do with the hardware side, but the possibilities with both The Roku Channel and Tubi loom large. Howdy! can't hurt.
harshness
Given that Tubi is one of the hottest FAST services out there, I don't expect it to go anywhere. Building up intolerance for ads takes a while, and as long as the advertisers are willing to foot the bill, why not?
osu1991

Surprise! Fox Corp. said Friday it has closed the acquisition of streaming platform Roku, a deal valued at $22 billion, well ahead of the expected 2027 date.
K
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'Rockford Files' Reboot Gets NBC Pilot Order

I grow tired of all the reboots. Most I don't bother with but will depend on the actor chosen.
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long_time_Dish
Yeah, I'll check it out as well, but shan't be holding my breath...It'll be tough to equal James Garner in that role...
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harshness
...It'll be tough to equal James Garner in that role...
I can think of a few actors (including some females) who might fit the bill.

This will all depend on the storyline. I'm not sure how well it will translate. Modern TV hasn't been all that kind to PIs and even less kind to CIs (confidential informants).
K
Premier is Saturday, Jan 2nd. Moving to Thursday on the 7th.
long_time_Dish

I wonder how they're/if they're going to do something like the answering machine message opening? It was always funny...
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I wonder how they're/if they're going to do something like the answering machine message opening? It was always funny...
I hope they can find enough Pontiac Firebirds to keep the show going.🤔
osu1991
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.


:eek


It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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meStevo

Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.

So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.​
harshness
Let's tell it like it is. GM's EV efforts are coming from SAIC. The brain trust is almost entirely in China, and GM is hanging off of SAIC's shirt tails.

It is a lot like asserting that the Corvette was designed by Chevrolet when most of it came from the Cadillac CTS-V.
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Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.

So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.​
That's how Ford did it- vertical integration. He even set up a rubber plantation in S. America
osu1991

The Cybertruck was supposed to make the F-150 obsolete. It wasn't supposed to be boring, like a Ford or a Chevy. It was supposed to be "more truck than truck." It turns out, people just wanted trucks that were trucks, and CEO Elon Musk announced on X earlier this morning is that the Cybertruck is dying.


Ending production in middle of next year at gigatexas for cybercab production.
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dishstaller
These AI companies have over $3 trillion in debt. Derail that and you will see a stock market crash like we have never seen before.
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