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Cascade
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Last reply · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion
After owning my Winegard 76cm dish for a while I decided it's time for something with a little more gain, I'd commented in another thread at how the Fortec Star dishes sold by Sadoun may not be as solid as I'd liked, I felt I had to see for myself.

I ordered the Fortec Star 120cm (4') dish earlier this week, yesterday it arrived in a large, flat box via FedEx who took great care in shipping the dish to me.
The front and sides of the box had large red "Fragile" labels, just incase the FedEx guy didn't get the message the first five times.
I was surprised how quickly the dish arrived having only took 3 days to reach me from Sadoun (Our new sponsor)

The box was constructed of thick cardboard and sealed with thick staples with plastic straps for extra reinforcment.

Unpacking the dish I was pleasantly surprised at how it was wrapped, in addition to the cardboard there was a layer of bubble-wrap to protect the parabola from damage.

Inside the box there was another box of parts, nuts/bolts, LNB holder, U-bolts and the instruction sheet.
After taking the dish out of the box I lay it face down on the floor to check for true which I found to be exceptional - there was no warpage and no dents or scratches. The steel used for the reflector is 18 gauge and powder-coated for protection against the elements.

The rear brackets which hold the mount onto the reflector are constucted of a much heavier gauge steel which I found to be almost indestructible (As you'll see later).
Two cross-members bolt securely onto the rear of the reflector with a square section connecting the two together which is part of the mounting assembly, this adds rigidity to the reflector and provides a secure mount for the Az/El mount.

The mount itself is also constructed of the same heavy gauge steel as the cross-members and has the necessary markings for elevation as well as the holes for the provided U-bolts which hold the dish/mount onto a regular positioner or pole of up to 3 inches, in this case I used my trusty DMSI SG2100 which is rated for including, and up to a dish of this size.
My only caveat with the mount is the way the U-bolts slide into the mount holes - you'll need to physically separate the elevation/mount slightly to enable them to slide in, this was no bad thing as it demonstrated the sheer strength of the mount.
After noticing some people had problems with the elevation on some dishes not being able to adjust to a low angle I can safely say this mount will satisfy.
The range of adjustment on the mount is huge and I don't forsee anybody having a problem with low or high elevation settings whatsoever.

The pole mount on the dish can be affixed with the pole-stop pointing up or down as to give compatibility with practically every positioner system, in my case the SG2100s mount is pointing downward, it'll work perfectly with positioners with a mount that points up too, kudos to Fortec for that idea.

I took the Winegard off the SG2100 ready to be mounted onto another pole and lifted the Fortec into place, this isn't the lightest of dishes so I had to hold the dish up with one arm while I tightened the bolts with my other, the U-Bolts will fit masts of up to 3 inches in diameter and are constructed of hard steel and are more than adequate.

After making sure the dish was square to the positioner I assembled the LNB holder
Because the focal length of the dish is longer than a regular 76cm dish the holder has 2 lightweight steel support arms which bolt into place either side of the reflector and again at the end of the LNB arm, again - the bolts used are good quality and ensured a good fit for the whole assembly.
The LNB holder itself is by far the highest quality I've seen, it's made of very thick, moulded plastic which screws into the end of the arm, it also includes a 40mm to 23mm adapter which allows for use of an LNB with a narrow throat.

With everything in place and securely fastened I hooked the motor back up along with the LNB and swung my dish over to Galaxy10R. (The positioner was already set up from when I'd installed the Winegard so I didn't feel the need to adjust it just yet)
I thought the SG2100 may struggle with the weight of the Fortec 120cm however it seemed as fast as ever and didn't falter with the heavier load.

With my old dish the maximum I could get out of TheTube (G10R/11720/V/27692) is usually 32% Signal/100% quality (Fluctuating) on a good day, my neighbours trees slightly obscure my view of G10R especially when leaves are growing. When it starts raining I lose almost all of G10R.



Conclusion:

I anticipate no rainfade with this beauty.
Both the Invacom SNH-031 and the ASC321 LNBs were tested, both gave amazing results.
Without even tweaking the elevation or azimuth on the motor or dish I now have 75% Signal and a rock solid 100% Quality reading.
I'm pulling in transponders I thought were dead and can now receive feeds I wouldn't have even known about.
With proper alignment I know this dish will give me even higher figures - I never though I'd get anywhere near a 75% signal from TheTube.
The same goes for all the other satellites I can see, with a signal meter inline and using the SG2100s built-in manual east/west control, the meter would fly over past the maximum signal reading with every sat I hit.
Fantastic.

Overall I'm impressed, I honestly didn't expect the dish to be constructed as well as it is and I'm basically forced to eat my own words.

It may not be the cheapest dish you can buy, 90cm dishes are cheaper to ship however if you want something that'll pull in everything that's up there while still being smaller than a regular C-band dish, look no further.

For those wanting the ultimate in gain without having to find an unwieldy C-Band dish, the 120cm Fortec is perfect and in this case you certainly get what you pay for.
A larger dish such as this really is the way to go, combined with a decent LNB there's very little you'll miss and you'll definitely thank yourself for it.


Thanks to Sadoun Satellite Sales for supplying this fantastic dish for review.
http://www.sadoun.com
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I have one of Sadoun's Fortec Johnsa 1.2 meter dishes. I am using it for receiving some South American feeds that just barely make it here. The way you get the U Bolts installed is to put them in one hole up through the inside of the mount and back out the other hole. I had to use a bigger bolt and I used one from a muffler clamp. So far the dish looks great. The only down side is that the dish must be aimed carefully as the beam is much tighter then a smaller dish. Jamal Sadoun has a good product.
Cascade
Tom Taylor said:
The way you get the U Bolts installed is to put them in one hole up through the inside of the mount and back out the other hole.

I found that one out a few days too late :)
It is a very good dish though, I'm picking up some Americas stations I never knew existed.
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Cascade - Any Chance of an Updated Review???

Cascade:

A little over a month ago, you had advised that you would update your review once your C Band LNB arrived. I know that I am awaiting your thoughts and comments vis-a-vis using the C Band LNB on your "new" dish. I bet many others would appreciate your update also.

If you can find the time over the weekend or sometime in the near future, please advise. I am in the process of playing. Ordered new KuBand LNB (Invacom Quad) from PSB, and would like to consider changing out dish and possibly my SG2100 (if necessary).

Best regards, and no disrespect intended,

greyskies in sunny (rained earlier today) South Florida
Cascade
If the scalar-cone arrives tomorrow I'll get that assembled and post results.
I haven't updated this in a while due to the lack of a real offset LNB such as rayydio just bought.
I haven't posted in the review thread as I don't want to mislead anyone into thinking that this is a perfect replacement for a decicated Cband dish and I wanted to wait til I could find a real offset Cband LNB. After my positioner died I had to fork out for another and the c-band project went on the back boiler (Reviews are costly.)
The thread in the main section is where I've been posting results with different LNB configs etc.

If the cone-scalar from Alec performs as well as we all hope I'll update the thread to include Cband, if it doesn't I'll have to save up for the same cone rayydio purchased.

Either way I haven't fogotten about this thread, it won't be this weekend (forum housekeeping) it'll most likely be sometime next week.
Sadoun
Hi Tom

Thanks for the comments. I am glad you are able to pull these weak signals from South America. What Satellite are you aiming it at, if you don't mind me asking?

Here is a picture of how the U-Bolts should be installed:

dfergie
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Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?
We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Leftover carnitas with a giant KFC potato wedge, shredded mozzarella and hot sauce... Water
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Two Chicago style hot dogs and a Fanta orange soda.
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Little mini pepperoni pizza, green beans, apples and chocolate milk.
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Fanta orange soda.
Sitting in fridge cooling off, bought 1 along with 2 Mexican Cokes at La Tienda... (I keep a few cokes stashed as well as in fridge and camper fridge)
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Garlic cheese bread
Green beans
Apples
Chocolate Milk
Some weird noodles. ;)
Ramy
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.
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Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.
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Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
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I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
K
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
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Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.
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I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
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Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.
harshness
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
MikeD-C05
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
osu1991
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping
K
I just thought her behavior, including the bare feet thing, was disrespectful to her position.
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
Source Gateworld
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S3 Ep22 Nemesis & S4 Ep1 Small Victories...
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S3 Ep22 Nemesis & S4 Ep1 Small Victories...
Two of my favorite Replicator episodes. :)
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The Tokra pt 1, I know pt 2 will be next...
(came across on Pluto tv live, went to media server for "clean" version)
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
osu1991
SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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dishdude
They didn't sell many, they were pricey and not out long. Quickly got replaced by the Hopper.
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They were high-end specialty, somewhat buggy and the 612/622/722 just overwhelmed it in popularity.
HipKat
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
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Well if it is because of reliability that wouldnt shock me.I went through 5 or 6 of them in little over 2 years. I loved the Sling when it worked! Saved lots of money having it in the day. That was probably 15 or 16 years ago?
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I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
Scott Greczkowski
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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TAKE IT As It Comes-The Doors
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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
The two instances of "The" should have been highlighted.

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Me to the River - Talking Heads
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Blinded By The Light - Manfred Mann's Earth Band
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I Saw The Light - Todd Rundgren
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
meStevo
Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


View: https://x.com/RapSheet/status/2111074303185989663?s=20
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Browns lead the AFC North 🤣

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Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Scott Greczkowski
Was down due to an emergency update at the ISP. They did email me seconds before they took it down and apologized for the short notice.

However once the server was back online NGINX failed to start.

I was at the grocery store and just rebooted the entire server and everything came back up again.

Just got home from the grocery store I will bring in the groceries and then take a look at what NGINX failed the first time.
comfortably_numb
Was down due to an emergency update at the ISP. They did email me seconds before they took it down and apologized for the short notice.

However once the server was back online NGINX failed to start.

I was at the grocery store and just rebooted the entire server and everything came back up again.

Just got home from the grocery store I will bring in the groceries and then take a look at what NGINX failed the first time.

NGINX
The site uses Nugenix?!


View: https://youtu.be/_DhEEo5S9fg
Scott Greczkowski
Ok checked it out and for some reason the web server (NGINX) tried starting before the DNS resolver fully loaded. This is why it worked when I rebooted the machine.

Thanks to ChatGPT it had me change the NGINX config to prevent this from happening again.

With that said I can't prevent the ISP from doing emergency upgrades which was the cause of all of this.
navychop
Nature will develop better idiots.
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Nature will develop better idiots.
God help us.
Scott Greczkowski
I guess this is what the downtime was about.

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