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Looking to switch to dish, prefer to have the new super joeys, any ideas when they are slated to start hitting the homes?

Also, anyone know if they will run off your home wifi hence slowing down your internet?
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Scherrman
These are the feature I know it includes so far:
- AutoHop
- VOD
- Blockbuster @Home
- PTAT
- Locate Remote
- Complete DVR integration
TheKrell
These are the feature I know it includes so far:
- AutoHop
- VOD
- Blockbuster @Home
- PTAT
- Locate Remote
- Complete DVR integration

I wonder what "complete" mean. We saw Vivek showing the integration on... Something! But was that a SJ (I think yes), or a Hopper, or another old-school Joey? What if you're on the Hopper. Can you see 5 tuners there?

You can have a sj for the small price of your soul......

Or, as Charlie once endearingly said, "Just send us your paychecks!" God I miss those Charlie Chats.

I'm curious as to what the actual cost will be on these, especially the wireless Joey...

Me too. If it comes with the 802.11ac access point, the price may be eye-popping. :eek:
3HaloODST
I wonder what "complete" mean. We saw Vivek showing the integration on... Something! But was that a SJ (I think yes), or a Hopper, or another old-school Joey? What if you're on the Hopper. Can you see 5 tuners there?

Complete integration between SJ and Hopper. All receivers can see all tuners. It will be the same as having a 5-tuner Hopper. Hopper-to-Hopper integration seems to be out of the picture now, and it's looking like it will never be. They will have some conflict resolution integration of some sort in a future software release.

Personally I'm fine with that. I will be keeping my 4 Hoppers and maybe swap out my Joey 1.0 for the Joey 2.0. Super Joey isn't very intriguing when you already have 4 Hoppers. I may look into a Virtual Joey, and that will allow me to set timers from any Hopper, just like the Joey hardware. Being able to access all Hopper recordings from any Hopper at any location was the main thing. Since that's already there and will only get better, no real urges for more integration here.
F
The one stumbling block for me upgrading my VIP622 to Hopper was lack of OTA support and they finally did that last year but didn't notice much fan fare about it. I never understood if it had the same functionality as VIP's receivers.
I'm kind of nervous for the announcement of the new joey's without any mention of OTA. I would hope I could add OTA tuner to hopper & both super joey 7 & wireless joey. I would assume Virtual Joey on my PS3 is out of the question (but that's ok).
I would like to know what I can do with a Hopper OTA module and if I can add them to Joey and the limitations they have.
Scherrman
The one stumbling block for me upgrading my VIP622 to Hopper was lack of OTA support and they finally did that last year but didn't notice much fan fare about it. I never understood if it had the same functionality as VIP's receivers. I'm kind of nervous for the announcement of the new joey's without any mention of OTA. I would hope I could add OTA tuner to hopper & both super joey 7 & wireless joey. I would assume Virtual Joey on my PS3 is out of the question (but that's ok). I would like to know what I can do with a Hopper OTA module and if I can add them to Joey and the limitations they have.
Not sure why you would have any concern about the OTA, it's works great. Just connect it to the Hopper and you have access to those channels from any Joey connected to that Hopper. The only downfall I can see is that it's just a single tuner and not dual like the old one.
david_jr
Being able to access all Hopper recordings from any Hopper at any location was the main thing. Since that's already there and will only get better, no real urges for more integration here.

Personally I could be perfectly happy without full integration of Hoppers, however how about a setting that allows us to stay in the DVR of the Hopper we are viewing after we stop the recording. Personally having to re-navigate back to the other Hopper everytime and start over is a royal pain in the rump especially when catching up on a bunch of half hour shows. You'd think the people that came up with AutoHop could figure this out. It would also be great to see the EHD connected to the other Hopper for either viewing or downloading shows to.
Scherrman
Personally I could be perfectly happy without full integration of Hoppers, however how about a setting that allows us to stay in the DVR of the Hopper we are viewing after we stop the recording. Personally having to re-navigate back to the other Hopper everytime and start over is a royal pain in the rump especially when catching up on a bunch of half hour shows. You'd think the people that came up with AutoHop could figure this out. It would also be great to see the EHD connected to the other Hopper for either viewing or downloading shows to.

I wouldn't mind that fix as well.
J
Not sure why you would have any concern about the OTA, it's works great. Just connect it to the Hopper and you have access to those channels from any Joey connected to that Hopper. The only downfall I can see is that it's just a single tuner and not dual like the old one.
His 622 (and the 722) only had a single tuner anyway.
Tampa8
The one stumbling block for me upgrading my VIP622 to Hopper was lack of OTA support and they finally did that last year but didn't notice much fan fare about it. I never understood if it had the same functionality as VIP's receivers.
I'm kind of nervous for the announcement of the new joey's without any mention of OTA. I would hope I could add OTA tuner to hopper & both super joey 7 & wireless joey. I would assume Virtual Joey on my PS3 is out of the question (but that's ok).
I would like to know what I can do with a Hopper OTA module and if I can add them to Joey and the limitations they have.

I think you just have a lack of understanding the Hopper system. There was TONS of talk about it - before it was available - during it's introduction - and after. OTA module goes on the Hopper, and makes sense. Everything flows from the Hopper to the Joey at least to this point.
In regards to the Ps3 who knows, but don't assume that app will be free.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Little Miss Dangerous - Ted Nugent
RaiderPower
Little Miss Can't Be Wrong - Spin Doctors
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Jump Down, Spin Around - Harry Belafonte
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long_time_Dish
Stop Draggin' My Heart Around - Tom Petty and Stevie Nicks
H
This Old HEART Of Mine(Is Weak For You)-The Isley Brothers
iJustine
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T
It's not even where it folds!
SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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S
That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
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Almighty1
That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
AZ.
AZ.
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
someone is showing their age
Almighty1
someone is showing their age
LOL. It depends if the person saw it during the years when they were actually still available which is 1968 to 1983 meaning the person could be 43-58 years old or they can even be a few years old if they learned to read and write at a young age and actually saw a telephone with that label somewhere recently just like even here in San Francisco, payphone still exist physically in public places but whether they can be used or not is a different issue. It still looks like this even today:
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dishstaller
I opened my Radio Shack in Sept 1984 and right about that time they did the whole deregulation thing with the phone companies. I bought TONS of those phones that had been refurbished with a new outer shell. You could throw one of those out of a 3 story high window and it would still work.
That was an interesting time in history. I would have older customers come in and ask about phones.....they were terrified that they were going to get into trouble hooking up a second phone without the phone company knowing about it. One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone. I guess younger folks can't conceive of a time when you were limited to the number of phones you could have in your house....and limited to the length of the cord 🤣
navychop
someone is showing their age

You should hear his stories about when rocks were soft and pterodactyls were the new kid on the block!
dishstaller
One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA0yZ1nrm6M&pp=ygUPd2tycCBwaG9uZSBjb3Bz
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
He was 71 yrs old. One of my favorite songs is Seminole Wind....the violin is killer.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8sh9P3X33w
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FTA4PA
Rest In Peace
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I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song. Rest in peace Mr Anderson.
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Bobby
Rest in peace.
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comfortably_numb
Hope you're out there Swingin', John.
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dishstaller
I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song.
That's one of those songs that hits a little too close to home for me. I like the song but just can't listen to it. It's kinda like that song "Daddy never was the Cadillac kind".....reminds me too much of my Grandfather who died Feb 18, 1995.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
My OTA is not working anymore. This started after the latest update. I have the OTA dongle with a OTA antenna that I've been using for years. My hopper does not recognize the dongle anymore and when I go to the OTA setting, it has a screen that says to plug a dongle into the USB. I tried unplugging and plugging back, in the same usb port and other ports. The Hopper does not recognize it. Anyone have same issue?
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Scott Greczkowski
Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy. :)
bookworm370
Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy. :)
Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that! ;)
S
Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that! ;)
dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!
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ppappas
dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!
They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.
Almighty1
They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.
Unless of course they didn't keep a copy of the old drivers and can no longer get it. Then there is always the their support for the product is EOL after a x amount of time so it will make the consumer have to buy the current product offering.
B
Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
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Almighty1
Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
No updates but if you can get DISH Technical Operations to roll you back to H710 or earlier even though H708 would be best because it also eliminates another problem like in this comment, you will also no longer have the problem as long as you don't update manually or forced to any new version until the problem is fixed as the problem started in H711 and still exist in H712 and H713.
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dishstaller
Installed an off-air antenna a couple days ago for a customer who had just cancelled his Dish service. He had a dual off-air adapter and gave it to me. Cool. I'll keep it on the truck....might come in handy. Got to admit I don't watch anything as far as live tv goes anymore. Even if we have severe weather, our local channels will have a live feed on Youtube.
navychop
In other news, it was announced that the software fix for the two tin cans and a string will not be forthcoming. A hardware fix is required. However, that fix will let you receive stations from a gazillion miles away.

Truck roll charges may apply. Two year commitment required.
M
Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
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navychop
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
TRG
TRG
17 years ago the US turned off analog OTA signals in favor of digital broadcasting. Now the push is ATSC 3 "Nextgen TV". But nobody seems to be able to agree on DRM implementation protocols. People don't want to hook their TV up to the internet in order to watch over the air TV. At least I don't. With all the data they collect about your viewing habits the box should be given away at no cost.
navychop
Comb your hair.
primestar31
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
star trek GIF


It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
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navychop
I truly hope you are right.
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