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Hi, maybe you folks can help me understand something.

I've got an old General Instruments 450i receiver, actually rebranded as "Digital Innovations", but it's a 450i, that looks exactly like one on currently being sold Fleabay except for the branding. I was going to include a link but I guess that's not allowed, but the seller of that receiver is asking 80 bucks for it, which to me seems outrageous.

I originally bought the receiver used over a decade ago, and at one point it was unplugged for at least a couple of years, but lately I've used it solely as a dish mover for a C-band dish, and only power it up long enough to move the dish and then unplug it. Thinking of getting a Vbox to move the dish & if that happens, the one last justification I have for keeping this receiver would be gone.

I'm pretty sure that at one time you could use it to subscribe to a certain kind of encrypted analog signals, maybe Digicipher, but I only used it to watch unencrypted analog channels. IIRC it contains some kind of card that does the decryption if you have purchased a subscription, but I also seem to recall reading that there is a battery on that card and if that battery goes completely dead, the card becomes worthless, and I can't believe the battery would not be dead after all this time.

What I don't get is, now that most of the signals are digital, how can anybody can even unload these on eBay? I imagine it would cost at least $25 to ship this thing, after all it is from the days when satellite receivers were quite heavy, so I'm thinking it would be much less hassle to just scrap it, but I don't want to do that if it actually has some value. Other than the battery thing, as far as I know there is nothing wrong with it - it worked great as long as there were still analog signals to watch - but I just can't figure out how on earth people are selling these things on eBay. Who in their right mind would buy one? Is there some hidden value in these receivers that I am not appreciating?

I'm at a loss to understand how someone could possibly justify asking that kind of money for a receiver that ancient, that could only receive analog signals. What am I missing here?

I'm not trying to sell my receiver right now, I'm only trying to figure out if it might actually have any value, and if it does, why???
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toucan-man
They're not very good boat anchors. Maybe for a small canoe in calm waters. Just sayin'...
R
A left fielder is right-handed; IM LEFT-HANDED and know I am in right field. It is like baseball in one way; you play until you can no longer play the game! When you can no longer play the game (IE: see pictures) it must be left to play another; it just won't be the same game (great dish mover/controller)!
I wish you could have sold them to me for the shipping also...other peoples trash turn up valued by many! Thanks! Heavy, isn't it?:cool:
turbosat
Still use two of those old GI boxes to move dishes, they are great for motor control. Each satellite position can be tweaked and information saved, with a good positioner on the dish they're quite accurate. The 550 and 650 I have will save video offset, positioner and polarity-tweaks for each transponder, if you use a polarotor feedhorn. Plus they run cool for a big Cadillac piece of electronics. And for the few analog channels you might still find, they have very nice picture quality. But $80, haha, not even.
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Still use two of those old GI boxes to move dishes, they are great for motor control. Each satellite position can be tweaked and information saved, with a good positioner on the dish they're quite accurate. The 550 and 650 I have will save video offset, positioner and polarity-tweaks for each transponder, if you use a polarotor feedhorn. Plus they run cool for a big Cadillac piece of electronics. And for the few analog channels you might still find, they have very nice picture quality. But $80, haha, not even.

Well, I do still see analog with them, and people always say they will sell them for what I want to pay. But having to pick them out of the trash costs me more than 80.00; I would lose my license to recycle other peoples garbage; and in the electronics industry; I would pull such out of the garbage and take it home anyways! Do you know what Companies like Comcast/Verizon and Cox Cable do; did; will continue to do? They put a price on taking out satellite tv systems, and use a 50 lb. Maul to destroy "equipment like those"! When I write a book about my experiences (they "buy" like watching GCI); you know who "they" are!
Tron
They're not very good boat anchors. Maybe for a small canoe in calm waters. Just sayin'...

I call boat anchors of that size and weight door stops. Probably a better use. Smaller things are referred to as paperweights ;) ...
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I call boat anchors of that size and weight door stops. Probably a better use. Smaller things are referred to as paperweights ;) ...

Now that is 280.00 ea. GI450i on the retail for each for sale today; and I paid 380 20 years ago today! Better than any car driven; except my Maserati goes 255!
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· posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
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dfergie
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We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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TRG
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Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.

Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life. 🍺

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Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.

Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life. 🍺

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Leftovers for lunch, bacon wrapped salmon fillet from Saturday and a KFC thigh from Friday, Tea.
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Congrats! I love retirement, no wake ups, no e-mails...
Leftovers for lunch, bacon wrapped salmon fillet from Saturday and a KFC thigh from Friday, Tea.
I've been retired since October. It was very strange at first. But I'm loving it now.
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Creamy flat chicken enchiladas with green chile, beans and rice.

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Layered Spicy Dorito / chili cheese Frito pie casserole…real sugar Pepsi
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I had a very unusual but delicious 1/4lb hotdog with cream cheese, raspberry preserves and chopped Hatch green chile. It is an unlikely combination but it works.


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N5XZS
Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
New low power station has been granted by the FCC and the new call leter is K33OB-D on RF ch. 33.

Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.

It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.

This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.😎
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N5XZS
Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets on like the Rev'n, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2
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Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets like Revn, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2

I watch MovieSphere Gold channel a lot. Many recent movies on that digitnet :)
N5XZS
Yes that's a good channel MovieSphere, only thing is the missing CC on it. :rolleyes: :hatsoff2
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According to the FCC listing, the tower is near I-40 and Juan Tabo:

primestar31
According to the FCC listing, the tower is near I-40 and Juan Tabo:

Many of these in my DMA are on cell towers, so don't always reach very far because the towers aren't very high.
zippyfrog
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
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zippyfrog
However, when I make a change (tried to add the Columbian pack for $2 so I could generate my bill) and there is a new line - it says "Access for TV" - whereas previously that line item was not there. I hope they aren't charging $5.00 for the initial TV now...

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Apparently it's not an "owned receiver" fee but rather an extension fee that's applied to 2nd and subsequent viewing. Maybe that played into their decision to force a box at every TV- garnering those fees
zippyfrog
Apparently it's not an "owned receiver" fee but rather an extension fee that's applied to 2nd and subsequent viewing. Maybe that played into their decision to force a box at every TV- garnering those fees
Possibly. In theory, $9 of the base pack has a rental fee built in. But now is this $5 a chance to get a little more? I don't know for sure. According to chat, it is a glitch and will be resolved in a timely manner, but we shall see. Part of my thinks there is a going to be a new charge, whether it is now or this fall. Here in Illinois, the law requires we are given 30 days notice of any fee changes, but I have not been given anything.

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MikeD-C05
These fees are why streaming has caught on so well across the country and DISH is losing subs each quarter. Soon won't be enough subs to be profitable.
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Does cable charge box rent?
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Bruce
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
With the 1st Quarter Report just released, Dish lost another 180,000, now at 4.84 Million.

Sling now at 1.79 million subscribers, down approximately 190,000.

For comparison, YouTube TV now has about double the subscribers of Dish and Sling combined.

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fmj77
I'm surprised Dish still has that many subscribers. I don't know a single person in my area that is still with them after getting either Starlink or fiber at their home. They all cancelled Dish and went with streaming. I used to get offers pretty regularly in the mail to come back to Dish, but no more. Haven't seen one in a couple of years now.
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I'm surprised Dish still has that many subscribers. I don't know a single person in my area that is still with them after getting either Starlink or fiber at their home. They all cancelled Dish and went with streaming. I used to get offers pretty regularly in the mail to come back to Dish, but no more. Haven't seen one in a couple of years now.
Only about 3.6% of Households in the United States, still have Dish Network.

For comparison, YouTube TV has about 10%.
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$25 a month for 1 gig, for two years with Spectrum. I'd be darned that their router was MUCH better than AT&T's. I didn't realize that what I thought was something else was the bloody router. Those buffering issues stopped when I swapped... after AT&T refused to lower my bill, after 25 years of high speed internet service. They wanted $80 or so a month for 1 gig, with no drop to a lower speed.
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I despise that most of all. I'm going to talk to a remote?
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$25 a month for 1 gig, for two years with Spectrum. I'd be darned that their router was MUCH better than AT&T's. I didn't realize that what I thought was something else was the bloody router. Those buffering issues stopped when I swapped... after AT&T refused to lower my bill, after 25 years of high speed internet service. They wanted $80 or so a month for 1 gig, with no drop to a lower speed.


1gbit up and down here from att start out great was suppose to be $60 for life of service, with years time it went back up to $80 I complained about they gave us $49 for year which about to end, I Wonder what prices will be when it "up" I in no way like ATT fiber service there DNS that are hardcode and unchange able in the router are some WORSE DNS I ever used. you know how much of pain it is to change DNS setting on EVERY single wireless device...
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mwdxer1
Only about 3.6% of Households in the United States, still have Dish Network.

For comparison, YouTube TV has about 10%.
I dropped Dish a couple years back after having them for 25 years. The pricing got higher and after we got high speed internet, I watched it less and less. It got to the point all I watched was TCM for classic movies. Many of them are on You Tube now and a Premium subscription is $14 a month. A far cry of the $100 a month was paying with AT180, Supers, and locals. I get locals OTA anyway. I took down the dish several months ago and tossed it. I owned all my my equipment, so nothing to return. Do I miss a traditional cable type service? No way. If I want one I have all of the free live streaming with Roku, the Fire Stick, as well as Google TV. Right now as I type this, I am watching episodes of "The Midnight Special" from 1976 on You Tube, ad free. Dish was fine for many years. I do not regret buying the equipment and installing it myself (No installers in 1999). I enjoyed Dish for many years. My thoughts, Dish & Direct will be forced to merge in time, or they both will be gone. Even cable companies are getting out of TV. Some are only selling the internet and phone packages.
tanman
I despise that most of all. I'm going to talk to a remote?
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nelson61
A lot of it flows back to the 4 big networks.
Cable and satellite are their money tree.

But, in reality, each market need 1 or perhaps 2 news feeds - not 4 or more
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MikeD-C05
A lot of it flows back to the 4 big networks.
Cable and satellite are their money tree.

But, in reality, each market need 1 or perhaps 2 news feeds - not 4 or more
In my area we get 2 news feeds spread over 4 local stations.
ABC/NBC (TEGNA)
Same news cast simulcast over both channels.

CBS/Fox (Sinclair)
Same news casters at 5pm, 6pm, 10pm.
Fox shows an hour at 9pm but same news casters.
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