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TheForce
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Want to be a beta tester for Google Glass? If you have $1500 you can buy your way into the program.

Google Glass is expected to be on sale for general retail later this year.

Google announced it still has a number of bugs to work out but is now ready for beta testing.
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TheForce
$150 is not the cost of the product. It is just the cost of the inventory to make one unit of the product. The actual cost is inventory ($150) + amortized R&D + marketing + mfg labor + 263A costs. Add all that up and you may realize a true cost per unit of over $500 for the first 100,000 units or whatever Google decides to amortize the R&D over. Then beyond that, there will be bug fix costs and upgrades that replace the amortized R&D. So, assuming they can wholesale the product for $800 making a profit of $300 per unit, it could then retail offering the retailer $700 to cover his profit and costs. Once competitors enter the game, Google will lose it's lead and need to cut pricing unless the demand for the original remains high due to it being superior. It;s why Apple products often maintain a high margin while Samsung stuff has very low margins. To compete, Samsung plays a price game. Apple stays with the idea their product is superior and commands the price. Time will tell if Google can play the Apple game of premium price for highest quality and still sell the numbers.
mike123abc
$150 is not the cost of the product. It is just the cost of the inventory to make one unit of the product. The actual cost is inventory ($150) + amortized R&D + marketing + mfg labor + 263A costs. Add all that up and you may realize a true cost per unit of over $500 for the first 100,000 units or whatever Google decides to amortize the R&D over. Then beyond that, there will be bug fix costs and upgrades that replace the amortized R&D. So, assuming they can wholesale the product for $800 making a profit of $300 per unit, it could then retail offering the retailer $700 to cover his profit and costs. Once competitors enter the game, Google will lose it's lead and need to cut pricing unless the demand for the original remains high due to it being superior. It;s why Apple products often maintain a high margin while Samsung stuff has very low margins. To compete, Samsung plays a price game. Apple stays with the idea their product is superior and commands the price. Time will tell if Google can play the Apple game of premium price for highest quality and still sell the numbers.

With a traditional company that would be true, but this is Google.

My point was that they were selling for $1500, which I do not think will be a price they will be able to mass market with. At 150 component cost Google will be able to reduce the retail price a lot and still be able to cover their costs. Google is not the same business model as Apple. Google barely marked up their phone hardware. In fact they want to be more like a game console manufacturer, they want to barely break even on the hardware. Google makes their money on the back end with advertising and other sales. I could see Google launching this at $199 or even less if they have figured out how to monetize the after market with sales of apps and advertising.

Just look at how much stuff Google gives away for free all sorts of programs, and apps, just to get the opportunity to sell ads.

I see the $1500 cost now as the cost of being a developer. These users are supposed to be developing uses to make the glasses a needed product that consumers will desire, and Google will be able to advertise on...
John Kotches
Mike123:

I could see glass having a GA (Generally Available) price of $500-600 assuming they continue with direct sales.

Early adopters always pay a premium price for their product.






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meStevo
Once it's closer to $300 or so I'll definitely be interested.
mike123abc
I would also not be surprised if they eventually allowed third party manufacturing.
TheForce
John, Mike- While I agree that Google is mostly focused on the ad end of their business model and have failed to monetize many other ventures, these other products don't seem to have staying power either. Google Glass will be like buying a Nexus phone. Here today, gone tomorrow. But I agree the development will get it off the ground in that product design. And, I also agree that if they can monetize the GUI with their core money maker, advertising, then they can consider it a winner. Once the basic design and interface is debugged, look to Samsung for the cheap product that most will afford. Then, Glass will quietly disappear just like the Nexus.

As far as pricing for the retail market. I learned this with my own products I sold through Dive stores. If you expect to have a retail store outlet, you need to be able to sell your products so you make a profit and still wholesale it to the retailer so he can mark it up 100%. Then if you sell to the general public at the same markup or sale price, you won't get any stores to buy your products wholesale. Never discount as a manufacturer. In fact, I sold a few of my products direct for more than the stores were selling just to keep the buyers at the stores happy.

Yes, Google is not Apple. I own stock in both but I trade Google and maintain no core position. Google's stock price hardly moves with news like Glass or any other product announcement. It moves solely on earnings. Apple on the other hand, has wide swings on the rumors of new products, then a few weeks of sales the stock moves again. News of dividend, buybacks and now a 7 for one split, also moves the stock. The reason why is everything Apple does generates good margins and unless it is cannibalized by one of their other products, it continues to earn nice revenues generation after generation. For the past 2 years Apple has been growth stunted by two problems. 1. They do not manage their cash pile to satisfy investors. We want to see more R&D and M&A. 2. Tom Cook has yet to introduce a product post Steve Jobs that is as successful as the iPAD or iPhone. Or, a service as successful as iTunes.
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osu1991
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
dishstaller
Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
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I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Juan
Not alot of dish customers any more
Foxbat
I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
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dishstaller
I really dislike change for the sake of change
TheRatPatrol
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
dishstaller
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Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


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dishstaller
BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.
meStevo
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If you're going try to read / listen to the book (can't recommend the audio book enough) before this comes out, I'd avoid trailers.

Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!




Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.
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meStevo
I've seen it twice. Can't recommend the audio book enough, Ray Porter's performance is amazing and there's so much more in the book than the movie.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
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Forgot to comment. I did watch when it first came out on MGM. I enjoyed it a lot. I think reading the book made it easier to watch. Several friends commented it was a little hard to follow.
TRG
TRG
"astrophage". I read the book but didn't see the film yet.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
That's what I will be watching this weekend.🤗
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K
Kindle book on sale for $2.99 today at Amazon.
dishstaller
.........there's so much more in the book than the movie.
I agree. That can go for pretty much any book vs movie. Back when I was single I would read any Stephen King or John Grisham book I could get my hands on. When you read a book you make up the scenes and characters in your mind.....the movie version always disappoints.
meStevo
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.

Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place. :eek:
osu1991
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
meStevo
Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


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dishstaller
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I had quit watching this show years ago because I ended up more annoyed than entertained. Well......I'm STILL more annoyed than entertained. I DO find it interesting to see how things work behind the scenes at many businesses. What annoys me is how utterly out of touch CEOs are with the companies they run. At the end of almost every episode the head of the company is amazed at how hard the employees have to work and many times have to work around impossible guidelines set forth from headquarters.

I found this one interesting because the new CEO had big plans for this company, Muscle Maker Grill, and it looked like the stores were all pretty busy. Recent history hasn't been good to this company however. I bet the covid lockdowns were the real killer.


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