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Dee_Ann
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With the impending arrival (pleeeeeeeease let it be soon!) of my new red Amiko A3 I am trying to work out how I will go about redoing EVERYTHING..

Several of my dishes will have dual output LNBF's so they can also feed a secondary system but we won't worry about those right now. So let's just pretend everything is single output for now.

The dishes. I have the 10' C-band. It's motorized but currently the Gbox is not "in the loop". No device I have can move the dish except the Gbox which is stand alone right now. The cable does not pass through it, the only wires connected to it are the motor control wires. When connected to the PC, the PC would send random commands to it and cause frequent flop overs. I had to remove it because of that. As of now I can only move the dish with the remote control or the push buttons on the box.

I would like to put the box in the system properly so that the A3 can move the dish on demand as it needs to.

I have the Prodelin 1.8m that I am planning to convert to a C-band minibud. Most likely I will parked it on MeTV since they have a more stable signal than RTV. I figure the DVB-S will be less temperamental. In the past I've had miserable luck with RTV's S2 signal even using a 10' dish.

I plan to install another HH USALS 1m KU dish for the A3. (I have one now in use for my MicroHD and I want to leave that as is.)

I have assorted fixed KU dishes that I want to put on it as well. One for 97, maybe one for 103, one for 125 and a spare. Just because they are already in the ground and I get annoyed waiting on those stupid "moving dish" messages to clear. I also like the instantaneousness of fixed dishes. And as much trouble as I've had with motorized dishes, I want them to by my primary dishes and the motorized KU dish as a backup and exploration dish.

As far as I can figure it, I have to run the HH motor on the 0k side of the 22khz Ecoda switch. So when I want to view something on it the tuner only has to concern itself with sending a USALS only signal to it.

EVERYTHING else, I believe, should go on the 22k side of the Ecoda. But what I'm not sure if I can do is have the Gbox in the system too. I was thinking it can be used as a GOTO-X controller. So to move the dish on the C-band arc I would send a 22k on AND a GOTO-X. I'm thinking I can put the DiSEqC (I BLOODY HATE THIS WORD! I CAN NEVER SPELL OR PRONOUNCE IT!!! :mad: ), the BLOODY STUPID DiSEqC switch in there as well to give me eight uncommitted DiSEqC ports on the 22k side.

I really hate this stupid word, DiSEqC I have to look it up on google every single time and copy and paste it. This is the STUPIDEST WORD EVER INVENTED!! GRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!

ANYWAY........ :mad:

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So to watch MeTV I would need (assuming I assign Gbox position 10 to SES 1) to send this signal,

22k on, uncommitted DiSEqC port 1, GOTO-(10)

BUT, to watch RTV on SES2 which is a fixed dish it would be,
22k on, uncommitted DiSEqC port 2 (no goto command needed, not motorized)

To watch something on 97w it would be 22k on, uncommitted DiSEqC port 3

etc....

I don't see an issue with stacking two commands such as the 22k and the DiSEqC commands but what about adding a third command, the GOTO-X ??

Will the Amiko A3 let me do this? I know for a fact that I can do it with my PC using that deadware 'MyTheatre'..

I want to get rid of the PC completely (I have other plans for it) and do this strictly with STB's..

I also plan to put an SiliconDust ATSC OTA tuner on the A3.

Can I do these things? What happened to the resident switch genius ?? Anole? If anyone would know it would be him.

Thanks!

Edit: Another option I've discovered since reading up on this DiSEqC stuff, if nothing else, what about an option to send customized commands to DiSEqC devices? From what I read, the tuner sends some HEX codes that the switches respond to and in complex, stacked systems you can stack the commands to get complex results. So I'm wondering if the A3 will have the option to send custom DiSEqC commands ? If it won't let me stack three commands like above, maybe I can send it custom commands?

Turns out my switch is a Digiwave, not a DMS like I used in the picture. So my switch is a DiSEqC 1.1 - 8 ports all uncommitted . uncommitted 1 - uncommitted 8
I'm sure this is a very important point when it comes to chaining/stacking three DiSEqC devices.
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Must have been a senior moment. The switch is after the motor.
Dee_Ann
Right.. I was planing on the 8x1 going after the switch and then all the LNBF's connect into it. It involves some extra back and forth wires buy oh well..
I just hope it will work.

I bought a new 500gb little wee tiny disk for the A3. I can't believe how tiny it is!

I guess now I need to start looking for a second HH USALS motor too.

I also need to hurry up and get my C-band dishes in proper working order because I saw Doctor Who starts on RTV on the 4th of August.
I really hate that they killed the KU feed. :(

I should start by making my 10 foot dish work right. It's a mess and has never really worked right. Now that I have a proper meter I need to get it done.
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SNIP

Dee_Ann said:

So here's a basic concept.

Amiko A3------>Gbox(1.2)------>HH USALS(1.2)------>8x1(1.1)------>ALL LNBF's

SNIP

Without using custom set Diseqc 1.2 positions that keep C-band sats and Ku-band sats separate(ie..positions 1-30 C-band and Positions 31-60 Ku-band) I don't think this will do what you want. I believe BOTH motors will respond to the Diseqc 1.2 commands. I do not think this is what you desired. If you have a 22khz switch and no universal LNB(F)s, then the following is what I would do:
Receiver -----22khz switch off ------ V/Gbox/ASC1 ------------------c-band LNB(F)s
Receiver -----22khz switch on ------- H-H motor ----------Diseqc switch-----Ku band LNB(F)s
Titanium
USALS and DiSEqC 1.2 motor control use different DiSEqC command sets. It is possible with most satellite receivers to program each satellite independently using either DiSEqC 1.2 or USALS.

A USALS command will not trigger the DiSEqC 1.2 positioner and a DiSEqC 1.2 command will not move a USALS motor (unless the user has saved the DiSEqC 1.2 position in the motor).
Dee_Ann
But, I thought, or so I read, that USALS is just a computer program that figures out what diseqc 1.2 command to send a motor... No?



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I found this which details how all the diseqc stuff works. http://www.spaun.com/files/8df79_en_DiSEqC_for_Technicians.pdf

I really know pretty much nothing about this but I'm going to read it, several times over.
Maybe I can figure it out, how to make it all work.
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
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I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Not alot of dish customers any more
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I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
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I really dislike change for the sake of change
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
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Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
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No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
dishstaller
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Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


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BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.
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If you're going try to read / listen to the book (can't recommend the audio book enough) before this comes out, I'd avoid trailers.

Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!




Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.
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I've seen it twice. Can't recommend the audio book enough, Ray Porter's performance is amazing and there's so much more in the book than the movie.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
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Forgot to comment. I did watch when it first came out on MGM. I enjoyed it a lot. I think reading the book made it easier to watch. Several friends commented it was a little hard to follow.
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"astrophage". I read the book but didn't see the film yet.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
That's what I will be watching this weekend.🤗
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Kindle book on sale for $2.99 today at Amazon.
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.........there's so much more in the book than the movie.
I agree. That can go for pretty much any book vs movie. Back when I was single I would read any Stephen King or John Grisham book I could get my hands on. When you read a book you make up the scenes and characters in your mind.....the movie version always disappoints.
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.

Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place. :eek:
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
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Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


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I had quit watching this show years ago because I ended up more annoyed than entertained. Well......I'm STILL more annoyed than entertained. I DO find it interesting to see how things work behind the scenes at many businesses. What annoys me is how utterly out of touch CEOs are with the companies they run. At the end of almost every episode the head of the company is amazed at how hard the employees have to work and many times have to work around impossible guidelines set forth from headquarters.

I found this one interesting because the new CEO had big plans for this company, Muscle Maker Grill, and it looked like the stores were all pretty busy. Recent history hasn't been good to this company however. I bet the covid lockdowns were the real killer.


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