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I'm in southeast Alabama, in the southwestern corner of the Dothan DMA; 722k with OTA module, western arc (110,119,129), Dish America. Dothan DISH locals on the western arc are SD only, HD locals are available on the eastern arc 61.5 satellite (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dnall&sub=true&market=Dothan, AL). I'm in a fringe OTA reception area. I'm using a high gain, long range Channel Master rooftop antenna with pre-amp. OTA reception of the Dothan ABC and FOX stations is poor to non-existent. HD OTA reception of Panama City ABC and Montgomery FOX is usually good but is easily affected by weather and atmospherics - very frustrating losing signal in the middle of a recorded program. I record ABC and FOX shows twice - OTA HD and DISH SD - and often have to switch to the SD recording to finish watching a program. I'd like to receive DISH locals in HD.

Option 1) I may be able to switch to the eastern arc. I have an installer coming out tomorrow to do a site survey. If he finds a clear view of the eastern arc, he would install a twin LNBF to receive the 72.7 and 61.5 satellites.

Option 2) Stay with the western arc setup that I have but add a second dish for the 61.5 satellite.

Option 3) "Move" a few miles down the road (and across the state line) to the Panama City DMA, which offers HD locals via the 61.5 and 129 satellites (http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?search=dnall&sub=true&market=Panama City, FL). I'd be just inside the yellow loop of the 129 spot beam's footprint. This would conceivably eliminate the need for new hardware but would increase sales tax by about $6 per month.

Questions: Assuming clear view of the sky in either direction, how does eastern arc reception, rain fade, etc compare to the western arc? Is it feasible to add a 61.5 dish to my western arc setup? Will the 722k receiver encounter any conflicts receiving locals on two satellites? Is there any way for me to test the signal strength of the Panama City locals on the 129 satellite before "moving"?

Answers to these questions and any other constructive input/ideas would be greatly appreciated.
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Tampa8
I should explain a little more.
I say that would be my first choice because;
1. WA in my experiences loses the signal less often and for less time than the EA.
2. It gives a little redundancy - some channels on the WA will also be on 61.5 should one or the other have a problem.
3. I have a combination of the partial WA and full EA now using two dishes and a DP44 switch and like it. Having both has come in handy a few times.

However on the side of just getting a new EA set-up;
1. Less complicated, no need for the DP44 switch, one dish, less to go wrong.
2. Thousands of people are on the EA and do not normally lose the signal, and especially if they use the newer DISH that is specifically for 61.5 and and 72 (Just two satellites instead of the older one that was for 3) you should get good signals.

So on further review, since you are having a tech come out, if they want to install a new EA set-up and that gets you locals in HD, that may be the way to go. I'm all for "moving" but if you can accomplish getting HD locals the normal way, probably a better choice.
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Tech came out - BTW, he's a local guy with a local phone number - not a 1-800 - a father and son independent DISH and Direct dealer - just the two of them doing installs. I'd been out with my Boy Scout-style compass trying to figure out if the EA was going to be clear of some trees out back. He had a smart phone app which uses his phone's camera to display a real-time view from the existing dish location - full color photo image of the trees in question with the 61.5 and 72.7 satellites super-imposed on the image well clear of the trees. Wish I had that when I put in a C-Band dish 24 years ago! Anyway, we kicked it around. He wasn't interested in installing a separate 61.5 dish and couldn't/wouldn't say if I'd be able to get DISH to authorize/turn-on EA locals on 61.5 while main dish is on WA. He said he could reconfigure my WA dish for EA with a new 61.5/72.7 LNB in about 30 minutes at no charge - DISH would foot the bill as a free upgrade to get the HD locals. It seemed like the best, least complicated option so I gave him the go ahead. He called DISH at my request to verify there would be no change of programming, that all of my Dish America channels were available on the EA, and that there would be no charge and no new commitment. He did his thing, ran a check switch, got a good lock on both satellites, got a new guide download, and everything worked as it should. Probably just my imagination, but EA picture seems to be sharper, colors more vivid. I know a locked digital signal on either arc should give the same image, but I was especially pleased with the picture quality on today's NASCAR race on ESPN and tonight's NFL game on FOX. No significant rainfall since the install so no way yet to judge rain fade. I'm happy with the outcome - just irked to find out HD locals have been available on the EA here since last Fall. With all of the times I've call DISH to inquire about HD availability, you'd think they'd have a system in place to notify customers of available upgrades.
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ChadT41
Is it possible to have a system setup, yes. Their current system though, has you locked into which satellites and systems you have. It is usually wrong and although the intent of it is great, is a stupid stupid implementation.
nelson61
With all of the times I've call DISH to inquire about HD availability, you'd think they'd have a system in place to notify customers of available upgrades.

Glad you got your HD up and running!

The easiest way to find what local channels and type (SD/HD) you have available on either arc are the Market sortable (click the market header) tables at Satellite Guys "The List".

http://www.satelliteguys.us/thelist/index.php?page=sub
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The easiest way to find what local channels and type (SD/HD) you have available on either arc are the Market sortable (click the market header) tables at Satellite Guys "The List".

"The List" and LyngSat are sources that I used. I was looking because the phone company is currently promoting Direct with HD locals. Some searching to verify their ad led me to DISH HD locals on the EA. Without that, I might have been lured to the Dark Side. Seems to me it would be a pretty simple algorithm to identify subscribers in the DMA on the WA already paying for HD programming, and to send a notice that HD locals are now available. There are probably many more folks paying every month for SD programming when HD is available for the same price. Any DISH reps listening?
SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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They were high-end specialty, somewhat buggy and the 612/622/722 just overwhelmed it in popularity.
HipKat
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
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Well if it is because of reliability that wouldnt shock me.I went through 5 or 6 of them in little over 2 years. I loved the Sling when it worked! Saved lots of money having it in the day. That was probably 15 or 16 years ago?
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I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
Nominal
I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
You are thinking of the 921. The 922 was the first DVR with Sling functionality built in (that was eventually disabled along with the Sling Adapter for the 722s and the 1st Hopper because they relied on now-defunct Adobe Flash technology). With the bugginess described by others and the removal of its marquee feature (Sling) the 922 faded into obscurity once the Hopper 2 with built in Sling was released and they finally made the concept into a fully functional product.
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
harshness
Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
The two instances of "The" should have been highlighted.

Take
Me to the River - Talking Heads
dishstaller
Blinded By The Light - Manfred Mann's Earth Band
Bobby
I Saw The Light - Todd Rundgren
long_time_Dish
Little Bit Of Light - Strange Weather
EatMyVolts
A Little Bit of Soap -- The Jarmels
Peter Parker
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
No idea what improvements might be involved.
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bookworm370
Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.
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Foxbat
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"
Here's the one I need:
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dishstaller
Here's the one I need:
Just ordered one....that's great.
jsmit86
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
long_time_Dish
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
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Almighty1
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
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dfergie
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We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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TRG
Two Chicago style hot dogs and a Fanta orange soda.
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Little mini pepperoni pizza, green beans, apples and chocolate milk.
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Fanta orange soda.
Sitting in fridge cooling off, bought 1 along with 2 Mexican Cokes at La Tienda... (I keep a few cokes stashed as well as in fridge and camper fridge)
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Garlic cheese bread
Green beans
Apples
Chocolate Milk
Some weird noodles. ;)
(They have salad and a couple other fruits if wanted)
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Club sandwich and corn chowder. Iced tea.
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Chili dog bowl, water… (homemade chili)
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
Source Gateworld
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dfergie
The Tokra pt 1, I know pt 2 will be next...
(came across on Pluto tv live, went to media server for "clean" version)
R
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
osu1991
long_time_Dish
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
Bobby
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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Bobby
MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
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CFB, Notre Dame at BYU, Saturday 10-27, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
Bobby
NASCAR, Freeway Insurance 500, Sunday 10-18, 12PM PDT, Channel 148-04.
Bobby
CFB, Ohio State at Indiana, Saturday 10-17, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona State at Texas Tech, Saturday 10-17, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
Bobby
CFB, Ole Miss at Texas, Saturday 10-24, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
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Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.
Foxbat
Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.
K
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
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K
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
K
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
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Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.
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harshness
I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
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MikeD-C05
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.
harshness
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
MikeD-C05
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
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osu1991
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping
K
I just thought her behavior, including the bare feet thing, was disrespectful to her position.
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