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Mrlewp87

Last reply Aug 24, 2014 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Ethernet to Hopper: Weaker Than WiFi !??

Previously had new Sagemcom 4320 Gateway in office, about 40 ft. from living room TV stand. Our Hopper, web TV- Netflix, Amazon etc., and Chromecast- all were fed via WiFi. Source was 2 antennae D-Link router set up as a wireless AP, about 33 ft. from the stand, and no wall ! We actually did watch HD TV often, tho' with occasional/ frequent buffering. Then the sometimes message to switch to SD.
Download speeds generally were right on or very close to our paid service- 6 mbps. Tiring of the buffering now, I moved the Sagemcom to right on top of the TV stand, and cabled the TV and Dish Hopper. Lo and behold... After going into Settings, and running the Dish broadband test, the download speed struggles to obtain a range in the upper 4 mbps !? Temporarily, the D-Link AP router is in the office, at least 8-10 ft. further away, and with plenty of wall to cut thru (long glancing path down hall). Yet, any WiFi devices still register great signal, and still at or near the max- 6 mbps !!
Something's amiss here, would you say?

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davepo

Aug 23, 2014

Nope, 1 ethernet, the rest moca and bridging enabled on the ethernet connected hopper only.

Mrlewp87

Aug 23, 2014

"davepo", some clarifications please. You "got the 655 installed...."? You made the changes, or had the "installer" do it? I'm not ready to pay a Windstream tech, if I'm reading correctly? I've done some static IP stuff myself, but am I to understand that the customer can't perform these settings changes?
Regardless, normally (?) the static IP has to be set within the device's settings, then entered into the router's applicable settings, is this right? So, would the user need to access each Joey's settings and assign it the static IP, or is this done just within the primary router (in my case, the Sage4320)- perhaps using each Joey's MAC ID? Our 3 Joey's are seen in the Sagemcom's DHCP list, I think since I enabled "Bridging" in the Hopper's Broadband section.
UPDATE; I don't know how I could have presented my concerns any differently, but somewhat by chance, I've figured out a couple things on my own. The *download speed* issue- Ethernet slower than WiFi?- was based on my mis-reading of info presented by the Hopper's utilities. Under the "Broadband" heading, is Ethernet, Wireless, and MoCA. It stands to reason that the wireless speed would suffer, since I temporarily had moved the D-Link AP router further from the Hopper, and behind a long wall. What I should have been looking at was the Ethernet connection status, not the wireless.
Our Netflix and Amazon internet TV seemed to be going as well as before, so I decided to check out some movies using the DISH ON DEMAND button.(not the guide menu) AT first I was really bummed, when after "renting" a FREE movie, in SD quality, the message appeared "downloading at 2.xxx mbps ! I realized later on that this was due to the resolutioin of the movie. When I selected an HD movie, the message appearing now said "downloading at 6.3xx mbps"! I'd not seen this speed, ever. (remember, we're DSL. I have to get excited about 6 mbps. Ha) This proved to me that the Ethernet was doing fine, as expected.
I'm always going long here, but would you or someone clarify this for me. The Joey's need your WiFi for what? Does it matter whether it's your primary router doing the wireless, or another set up as a wireless AP?

JM42

Aug 23, 2014

Results are very odd. Static IPs shouldn't be required, and haven't been in my experience. Expecting a tech to set that up would be a support nightmare. Most likely some compatibility issue between the Hopper and the router. Everything normally just works, but you did mention d-link, so all bets are off.

davepo

Aug 24, 2014

Mrlewp87 said:
"davepo", some clarifications please. You "got the 655 installed...."? You made the changes, or had the "installer" do it? I'm not ready to pay a Windstream tech, if I'm reading correctly? I've done some static IP stuff myself, but am I to understand that the customer can't perform these settings changes?
Regardless, normally (?) the static IP has to be set within the device's settings, then entered into the router's applicable settings, is this right? So, would the user need to access each Joey's settings and assign it the static IP, or is this done just within the primary router (in my case, the Sage4320)- perhaps using each Joey's MAC ID? Our 3 Joey's are seen in the Sagemcom's DHCP list, I think since I enabled "Bridging" in the Hopper's Broadband section.
UPDATE; I don't know how I could have presented my concerns any differently, but somewhat by chance, I've figured out a couple things on my own. The *download speed* issue- Ethernet slower than WiFi?- was based on my mis-reading of info presented by the Hopper's utilities. Under the "Broadband" heading, is Ethernet, Wireless, and MoCA. It stands to reason that the wireless speed would suffer, since I temporarily had moved the D-Link AP router further from the Hopper, and behind a long wall. What I should have been looking at was the Ethernet connection status, not the wireless.
Our Netflix and Amazon internet TV seemed to be going as well as before, so I decided to check out some movies using the DISH ON DEMAND button.(not the guide menu) AT first I was really bummed, when after "renting" a FREE movie, in SD quality, the message appeared "downloading at 2.xxx mbps ! I realized later on that this was due to the resolutioin of the movie. When I selected an HD movie, the message appearing now said "downloading at 6.3xx mbps"! I'd not seen this speed, ever. (remember, we're DSL. I have to get excited about 6 mbps. Ha) This proved to me that the Ethernet was doing fine, as expected.
I'm always going long here, but would you or someone clarify this for me. The Joey's need your WiFi for what? Does it matter whether it's your primary router doing the wireless, or another set up as a wireless AP?

You can set static ips in your router if your router supports that feature. I installed and setup the router myself. I set an ip for each hopper and joey for their mac addresses. Once they try to connect to the network, they get the address you assigned to them. Some of my devices like my printer and wireless access point can assign themselves a static ip, and when they connect to the network, that's the ip they get. You don't have to do it in both places. I guess you could, but it's not necessary.

Your joey does not need your wifi. It should get connection through your hopper via the moca network. Enable bridging on the hopper that is connected to your router. Your primary router should have dhcp enabled. Your access point should have dhcp disabled. You don't need two devices giving out addresses.

It sounds like you have everything set up right. Sorry it took so long to respond, we were outside all day yesterday and the dew point was around 75, brutal day for football.

charlesrshell

Aug 24, 2014

I think it is easier to use the router's DHCP reservations. In my router I have setup all my Hoppers, Joeys, printers, Xbox One, and Slingbox 500 in the DHCP reservations so they always have the same IP address.

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dfergie

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Last reply 4 minutes ago · posted in What's Cooking?

What's For Lunch?

We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so...

Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...

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Oct 12, 2026

TRG said:
Fanta orange soda.

Sitting in fridge cooling off, bought 1 along with 2 Mexican Cokes at La Tienda... (I keep a few cokes stashed as well as in fridge and camper fridge)

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Peter Parker

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 7 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

DISH Hopper 3 Software Version 713 Is Out

No idea what improvements might be involved.

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bookworm370

Saturday at 3:17 PM

Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.

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naptime

Yesterday at 1:05 AM

I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

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reubenray

Yesterday at 6:14 AM

bookworm370 said:
Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.

My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 1:01 PM

reubenray said:
My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning.

Had a customer call recently saying their remote was really acting up, some buttons no longer functioned. Told them to reboot the Hopper....problem fixed.
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"

https://www.amazon.com/Have-Tried-Turning-Again-T-Shirt/dp/B07G1ZV9W9/ref=sr_1_11?crid=3NNRAEED195WV&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.86TxUTPcw48CRYlDcLntwpMxbPDBfjiLu4wMZGX3VN6ajG_cFCuoDBJT7pS9CW2mjThKlke5Z6dlXH8bJKkQF4s892wGVU1ca_00S0BQz6F15V30_4szIdWeycvw3_zoVtsULQASM8bGcgvsKms930xApC43y_-YBVN0Q8Xsf_csSqXcmhWpresARdXHfx2VazllrXI8asduvrbnk9S3CGnzjqnVTkjzFSpSQLdQKA6Dx_7UfbQIBBJsqAmQwwtDGqM0YKVIkjV4ARgVJvJ69vLPhxV0m8pkJQd_2w_QX_A.-jSy9OqrqWdxPBsgZGia1hHMbvDAKxxhRn9kK1EBdCc&dib_tag=se&keywords=have%2Byou%2Btried%2Bturning%2Bit%2Boff%2Band%2Bon%2Bagain&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1792342839&sprefix=have%2Byou%2Btried%2B%2Caps%2C265&sr=8-11&customId=B0752XJYNL&customizationToken=MC_Assembly_1%23B0752XJYNL&th=1&psc=1

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cpdretired

Yesterday at 6:58 PM

dishstaller said:
Had a customer call recently saying their remote was really acting up, some buttons no longer functioned. Told them to reboot the Hopper....problem fixed.
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"

https://www.amazon.com/Have-Tried-Turning-Again-T-Shirt/dp/B07G1ZV9W9/ref=sr_1_11?crid=3NNRAEED195WV&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.86TxUTPcw48CRYlDcLntwpMxbPDBfjiLu4wMZGX3VN6ajG_cFCuoDBJT7pS9CW2mjThKlke5Z6dlXH8bJKkQF4s892wGVU1ca_00S0BQz6F15V30_4szIdWeycvw3_zoVtsULQASM8bGcgvsKms930xApC43y_-YBVN0Q8Xsf_csSqXcmhWpresARdXHfx2VazllrXI8asduvrbnk9S3CGnzjqnVTkjzFSpSQLdQKA6Dx_7UfbQIBBJsqAmQwwtDGqM0YKVIkjV4ARgVJvJ69vLPhxV0m8pkJQd_2w_QX_A.-jSy9OqrqWdxPBsgZGia1hHMbvDAKxxhRn9kK1EBdCc&dib_tag=se&keywords=have%2Byou%2Btried%2Bturning%2Bit%2Boff%2Band%2Bon%2Bagain&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1792342839&sprefix=have%2Byou%2Btried%2B%2Caps%2C265&sr=8-11&customId=B0752XJYNL&customizationToken=MC_Assembly_1%23B0752XJYNL&th=1&psc=1

Works every time. My wife needs one.

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 7:14 PM

dishstaller said:
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"

Here's the one I need:

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 10:15 PM

Foxbat said:
Here's the one I need:

View attachment 194877

Just ordered one....that's great.

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jsmit86

Today at 9:57 AM

naptime said:
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

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long_time_Dish

7 minutes ago

jsmit86 said:
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin

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dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply 10 minutes ago · posted in TV Shows

Stargate SG-1 Discussion

Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed

Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner

The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
Source Gateworld

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dfergie

Sep 10, 2026

The Tokra pt 1, I know pt 2 will be next...
(came across on Pluto tv live, went to media server for "clean" version)

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reubenray

Today at 1:30 PM

I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?

osu1991

Today at 2:00 PM

Watch Stargate SG-1 for Free Online | Pluto TV

Stargate SG-1 picks up where the blockbuster film left off as the SG-1 team sets out to explore the mysteries of the Stargate and the worlds beyond it in the pulse-pounding series which became a worldwide phenomenon and a science fiction classic. Stream Stargate SG-1 for free on Pluto TV.

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long_time_Dish

17 minutes ago

reubenray said:
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?

Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.

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reubenray

10 minutes ago

long_time_Dish said:
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.

Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.

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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply 35 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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ClarkGable said:
Take It To The Limit - The Eagles

The two instances of "The" should have been highlighted.

Take Me to the River - Talking Heads

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TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Today at 3:02 PM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Elon Musk’s Wildest Demo Yet! Is It Real?

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!

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Bobby

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Last reply Today at 2:37 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish 4K Event Listings (No Discussion)

This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.

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Bobby

Tuesday at 8:48 PM

MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.

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Bobby

Tuesday at 8:50 PM

CFB, Notre Dame at BYU, Saturday 10-27, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.

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Tuesday at 8:52 PM

NASCAR, Freeway Insurance 500, Sunday 10-18, 12PM PDT, Channel 148-04.

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Bobby

Thursday at 3:57 PM

CFB, Ohio State at Indiana, Saturday 10-17, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona State at Texas Tech, Saturday 10-17, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.

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Today at 2:37 PM

CFB, Ole Miss at Texas, Saturday 10-24, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.

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Ramy

Supporting Founder

Last reply Today at 2:11 PM · posted in The Sports Section

2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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reubenray

Yesterday at 6:19 AM

A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 6:34 PM

Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"

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osu1991

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View: https://youtu.be/mUq0cZaflyc?si=odZ2TTCweQXCWNBR

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Today at 11:08 AM

osu1991 said:
View: https://youtu.be/mUq0cZaflyc?si=odZ2TTCweQXCWNBR

They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.

. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!

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Jimbo

Today at 2:11 PM

Mike0616 said:
They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!

Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.

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klang

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 2:04 PM · posted in TV Shows

Star Trek: Starfleet Academy - Paramount+

Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.

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klang

Jul 28, 2025

I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.

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klang

Oct 11, 2026

klang said:
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.

Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.

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MikeD-C05

Oct 11, 2026

klang said:
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.

Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.

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harshness

Tuesday at 11:28 AM

MikeD-C05 said:
I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.

Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?

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MikeD-C05

Yesterday at 12:51 PM

harshness said:
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?

There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.

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harshness

Yesterday at 2:00 PM

MikeD-C05 said:
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.

Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.

MikeD-C05

Today at 1:35 PM

harshness said:
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.

I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that.

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osu1991

Today at 1:59 PM

MikeD-C05 said:
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that.

Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping

klang

Today at 2:04 PM

I just thought her behavior, including the bare feet thing, was disrespectful to her position.

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Linus Tech Tips

Today at 1:32 PM · posted in Linus Tech Tips

This video was pain and suffering

Time for another AWESOME video from Linus Tech Tips!

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SuperDish_Fan23

Last reply Today at 1:22 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!

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dishdude

Today at 1:45 AM

They didn't sell many, they were pricey and not out long. Quickly got replaced by the Hopper.

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telstar_1

Today at 1:50 AM

They were high-end specialty, somewhat buggy and the 612/622/722 just overwhelmed it in popularity.

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HipKat

Today at 8:55 AM

I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.

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AZ.

Today at 9:02 AM

Well if it is because of reliability that wouldnt shock me.I went through 5 or 6 of them in little over 2 years. I loved the Sling when it worked! Saved lots of money having it in the day. That was probably 15 or 16 years ago?

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telstar_1

Today at 1:22 PM

HipKat said:
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.

I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.

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Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.