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Jason S
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Last reply · posted in C-BAND Satellite Discussion
After searching & asking, more searching & asking, then a little more searching & asking, I now have an C-band dish.

I went to go look at it today. While it was in less than prime condition, I couldn't pass up on the price (free). I had plenty of help from the owner's brother and he even supplied the tools and trailer!

It measures nearly 8' across the dish rim. From what remains on the LNB housing, it looks it said Echostar. I haven't found any other identifying labels or mark on the dish or polar mount.

It'll need some TLC to make operational, but it was enough setup not to pass up. The mesh is dented up and a portion of one panel is missing. At the very least I can use the polar mount and pole.

Here are some photos:
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pdiddy
Jason,did you get the system up and running?Dying to hear more than anything how the asc1 is working for you?Keep us posted.
Jason S
Jason,did you get the system up and running?Dying to hear more than anything how the asc1 is working for you?Keep us posted.

Hopefully soon...

Other than gathering parts and supplies, I haven't made much progress. Inclement weather, seasonal events and other obligations have kept me away from setting this up. About all that I've been able to do is mess around with one of my Ku dishes.
Jason S
It looks like the ASC1 may not get setup with the Echostar dish after all...

However, it looks like there could be a new post entitled "SAMI dish rescued..."

I had inquired to the city earlier about a dish on a roof (post #64), then was directed to speak to the county about it. The county commissioners had a meeting today and my inquiry was brought up. They decided it wouldn't be worth posting a notice and taking bids. Additionally, I was told I could have 'it' if I were to pay for the time it took the county road & bridge personnel to take it off the roof ('it' being the dish, polar mount, and what I presume to be a NPRM)...

As for the road & bridge personnel, I had to inquire about how much they thought that would cost- especially if it took several hours. I was told the county personnel rate would be $10-15 per hour plus the rate for any use of equipment (e.g., lifting equipment). It should only take two people to remove the dish, plus one guy to lean on the shovel... I would rather do it myself, but being that the dish is on the roof of a county owned building, etc.; I'm going to take their offer and hope they don't muck things up removing the dish.

I was told that county personnel would contact me in a few days, but that with Christmas and New Year coming up it may be after the 1st before they actually take it down.

Attached below is an extremely poor cell phone photo. I could barely make out SAMI on the LNB housing, so I'm presuming it's all SAMI (not just the LNB housing). From what I can see from ground level, there appears to be some minor hail damage. Sorry for the poor photo.
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I would be happy to know any additional information from those familiar with SAMI dishes. I don't know the size exactly, but it appears to be over 8' in diameter. The actuator arm appeared to have most of the plating on it still and overall everything looked to be in pretty good shape (at least from the ground)...
FaT Air
Looks like a SAMI. (Nice dish) Hope they don't 'muck it up' NPRM? sweet!
Don't sweat the hail dents. Should do little degradation on C band (ulnless it's 'massive' hail dent damage) and/but much can be 'massaged' out.
Jason S
Update on the Echostar progress...

Until now, the coax I was using was a mixture of new and used and laying on top of the ground. I finally had time and decent weather to work on getting some ribbon cable and coax buried. I had previously purchased the partial spool of Commscope 8136 ribbon cable and decided I should also run an additional length of RG-6, since I was at it.

To save digging, I decided to run the cables to my shop, then route them through the shop and then back out to the Echostar dish. Overall length of cable would've been the same either way.

I began Friday, after work, digging a trench to the shop and made good progress until I ran out of light and hit frozen soil. So I used a mattock to open the ground and then watered the trench.

Saturday, after more digging and watering, I was able to finish the trench out to the shop building. The trench didn't go nearly as straight as I would've liked, but it's done... After the trenching, I fished Commscope 8136 ribbon with a RG-6 through the PVC electrical conduit to the shop. (Since moving in last year, the yard has been a work in progress- one of my 'little helpers' thought it needed mowing, in addition to running off with my tools)

Sunday I dug the trench from the shop to the Echostar pad and routed the wiring through the shop. I didn't have enough conduit to finish the job, so pretty much quit early.

Today, I got the remaining supplies I needed to finish the job. Prior to completing the wiring job, I decided I should verify wiring to ensure that what I intended to do would actually work. This is the wiring schematic that I put together:

[GALLERY=media, 42]Sat_dish_wiring by Jason S posted Jan 19, 2015 at 10:05 AM[/GALLERY]

I very much appreciate Titanium (Brian Gohl) for taking the time to verify the coax/switch setup prior to finalizing the wiring.

After all the cable was run, I attached the Power and Sensor wires to the actuator and wired the drain wire on the actuator end. I swapped coax on the 1.2m Ku dish currently on 97W and 103W and ran the cable to the shop, in which the Amiko 4-port switch resides. At the house, I was able to bundle the wires together and make a relatively neat installation into the house. All the wiring fit nicely, but it is very snug in the box with the extra run from the 22khz switch plus the switch itself and the OTA antenna cable.

I was floored whenever I powered on the receiver and switched through the satellites and found that everything was working and all the transponders were at least the same quality, if not better.

There is still some tidying up to do. But now I've got well over half of my "New Year! Any big FTA projects this year?" completed with room to expand.

At this point, I just need to get the ASC1 wired up and programmed...
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Jason S
This may be the final post for the Eshostar rescue...

As I had the ribbon cable run from the house to the dish, I verified continuity before hooking in the ASC1 actuator controller. To do this I connected the two leads for the motor together (in this case red and white wires), as well as the two leads for the sensor wires (brown and orange on my setup):
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(Note that the ribbon cable I ran is two strands of RG-6, plus the motor control wires, shielded sensor wires and LNB polarotor control wires)

I then went to the actuator at the dish and verified continuity using a digital and analog meter. Here is the analog meter on the motor power wires:
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Here is the analog meter on the sensor wires:
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As the wiring to the house (and receiver) tested good. I hooked up two sets of wire jumpers to the motor. One set of jumpers was attached to the motor power wire terminals and one set of jumpers was attached to the motor sensor wire terminals. I didn't take photos of this. However, the motor sensor jumpers ran to the analog meter set on 10 ohm and the motor power jumpers ran to a 18V Milwaukee battery pack.

I hooked up the power wire jumpers to the battery pack and watched the analog meter. It fluctuated slightly, so I slowly connected and disconnected the power to the motor to verify the reed switch was operating.

Once I was satisfied that the reed switch (sensor) was operating, I verified east and west limits and ran the dish to the west limit. Then I attached the ribbon cable wires running to the house and reinstalled the motor cover.

As the motor wiring tests went well, I hooked up the ASC1 into my existing setup. I then began the Diseqc 1.2 setup process...

The setup process entailed running the dish from 139W to 78W and setting satellite positions. The Manhattan receiver apparently communicated well with the ASC1, and as I saved positions the actuator controller prompted that the position was saved. As I had the C-band functioning well, I went ahead and established for future additions.

This is the wiring schematic I have right now, which should accommodate future expansion (including motorizing a Ku dish) and moving some things around:
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At this time, I have some tidying up to do with the FTA setup on both the house end and C-band end of things, but here is the final bit of my motorizing process (ASC1 hooked up and working quite well):
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Now that I have the 7.5' Echostar/KTI setup and operating well; I have to figure out how, when and where to place the 'new' 10' SAMI...
Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Y
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
osu1991
AZ.
AZ.
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
Jimbo
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
This will be a SAD DAY when this passes ....

They complained the last year that we had a bunch of Blow Outs in the Playoffs ... heres an idea, lets Double the amount of teams and hope for Closer games ... ya right.

This never should have went past 8 teams, 10 at the most.

Now, I have heard that play in games are being talked about, such as #13 plays #24 and so forth, to cut the field down (why cut it down, just don't expand it.)
I'm not sure exactly how thats going to work out or if it was just someone talking.

They were also talking about starting the Season earlier ...

I really don't like the National Championship game being the end of January ... if the Semi Finals are over New Years, thats fine with the Championship game the next week.
Jimbo
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...
AZ.
AZ.
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...
Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....
"MysteryMan"
Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
I created this thread on the original Edgecutter Cutting Edge Forums site. It's simply a place for those to review the latest software available for those using Windows 10 and Windows 11. To date it has received 112,559 views. I have been asked by staff to continue this thread here.
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EarDemon
If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.
WhiteBeard
If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.
To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything. ☹️
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EarDemon
To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything. ☹️
For niche use cases, yes I agree. Kali for ethical hacking and security testing, and running a Cacti server for network monitoring are the two things I have experience in. Plus thousands and thousands of other things, but for every day use I just can't see it. The owner of the GMRS repeater that I pay to access is changing the Tx DPL tones tomorrow, while Chirp is available on Linux, the software to program my MXT500 is not.

I run Fedora and Ubuntu in VMWare, honestly I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows. The cartoonish dock at the bottom of the screen reminds me of Apple products.
EarDemon
I have no OEM bloat, on CTO devices where I can access the drive, I order it with the smallest allowed drive and crack the device open throw the factory drive in the garbage and put in my own WD Black and install Windows from bootable media. For Windows bloat, I install Windows using the English - World option which limits preinstalled MS bloat.

Windows and Office features I wish to block, like CoPilot and Cortana, macro enabled Office files and others are blocked with GPOs.

Between keeping all software up to date, doing firmware updates, putting IoT devices on a separate VLAN, running Symantec Endpoint (say what you want about it, it's been good to me) and practicing safe hex, I'm vigilant but not paranoid about security.

With NVMe SSDs, my cold boot up time on all devices is under 30 secs as well. Fast boot disabled, BitLocker drive encryption enabled.

I have nothing against Linux, been paying with it on and off since 2004ish, it's just not the right solution for me.
HipKat
it's just not the right solution for me.
As I said above, and, FWIW, I run Win11 Pro and Arch on separate 250 GB NVME drives, using F8 to select which I boot to, with a 1TB SSD for storage, accessible to both OSs and a third formatted Nvme I want to use to learn Kali. It was much faster to setup Arch than it was to strip down Windows. Windows still takes much longer to boot.

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harshness
I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows.
What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI? By many accounts, it has been going downhill since Windows 7.

There are Linux desktops that offer Windows or Mac UIs, yet you don't hear much chatter about them outside of questions about when the creators might get sued.
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EarDemon
What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI?
Because it's what I prefer. I know I've said this a few times, I use Open Shell to give me the cascading start menu a la WIN 95 and NT4.0. The only reason I went from Windows Vista to 7 back in the day was because of Classic Shell. I cannot stand anything other than the OG start menu from 30+ years ago. I'm using ExplorerPatcher to give me Windows 10 UI elements of the taskbar and right click context menus.

If you could take a look at how I set up Windows 95, you'd find many similarities to how I use 11.
EarDemon
I could probably use that as a starting point, but I don't like the full size icons. If you have to click on each folder that's also a no-go for me, it has to be cascading.

I used to have Peppermint Linux in a VM, that was about as close as I could get to recreating a Windows NT4.0 style of menu structure, but I could never get it to scale properly in VMWare on a 4K display and eventually gave up.

Whatever the boot up time it's fine with me. The longest part of my bootup is the HP SureStart BIOS integrity check. Once that is done, it's only a few more seconds. I haven't done this reg tweak yet since the reformat, but I switched the bootup animation to the Windows 10 style spinning circle of dots, and it's two and a half rotations. I can live with that.
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Hard getting used to the new younger Gibbs, Mark Harmons son had the right look but I understand he didn't want the role.
Still I'm enjoying, pretty good job with Franks.
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dfergie
Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...
R
Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...
Will the OG Gibbs be on NCIS or will Tony be on NCIS Origins?
dfergie
Tony was there at the end of the episode with Gibbs.
R
Tony was there at the end of the episode with Gibbs.
I saw Gibbs walk into the door, but I did not see Tony.
Jimbo
Tony was there at the end of the episode with Gibbs.
Tony was Not in this episode ... you may remember Gibbs walking into the office and those around Welcomed him home, Voices only.

If you also watch the Mothership, Tony has been in that one ...
dfergie
Tony was Not in this episode ... you may remember Gibbs walking into the office and those around Welcomed him home, Voices only.

If you also watch the Mothership, Tony has been in that one ...
I must have seen that in previews
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osu1991
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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Kiss - The Art Of Noise
long_time_Dish
Beautiful Noise - Neil Diamond
sdfntx
White Noise - Jessie Baylin
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dishstaller
White Rabbit - Jefferson Airplane
long_time_Dish
White Sun - The Doobie Brothers
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Wasn't exactly sure where to post this. Just had a customer come in inquiring about internet. He has HughesNet and had heard good things about mine. He asked if we provided email addresses and it kinda caught me off guard. I said he should be able to keep whatever email he had been using....my sister in law is still using a BellSouth email addy and they haven't been around here for many years. He said he had gotten a letter from HughesNet stating that they had until Nov 16th to save, move, forward, whatever, their Hughesnet emails because they would lose them after that date.

I have never heard of a company simply mass-deleting email accounts (the customer still has his HughesNet service). From what I understand, in the past, the company who was ditching their email service simply sold the customer base to a company like Google.

Anyone else getting this letter. He said he would show it to me tomorrow when I go out there and set up his internet.
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Foxbat
Doing a Google of the HughesNet Email notice, it seems that HughesNet has been trying to eliminate hosting emails since 2019. And with HughesNet filing Chapter 11 back in August, it would be a smart move to switch to a more stable Email provider. Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

SpaceX's Starlink and the Cellular 5G Home Internet solutions have pretty much relegated HughesNet and its high latency, low bandwidth Internet service to History. If Earth had shorter days, maybe a Geostationary Internet Solution might have stood a fighting chance…
navychop
If Earth had shorter days,

Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

🙄
Foxbat
Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

🙄
Still the same number of years, just more Sunsets…😉
K
Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

I still have one of those although I've been trying to wean myself off it.
JSheridan
Among my many email accounts I still have a .netscape.net which AOL assimilated a while back.
EarDemon
Yep, I got the notification a few days ago. I'm not totally surprised.

Never used the address for anything, so no big loss to me.
meStevo
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Starting a thread klang !

After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.

Keri Russell Wow GIF by NETFLIX
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K
Probably starting season 3 tonight. :D
meStevo
Finished it this evening. General impressions with no story spoilers, but will spoil it anyways as it just came out today.

Not quite as impactful of a finale as past seasons I thought, we'll see how far down the rabbit hole things go as the latest plot twists and turns unravel. Thought this season had a full episode or two too much rom-com style disagreements, but it was more or less paid off later. Ultimately didn't enjoy that being more of a throughline in the stories this season compared to what I remember of the priors.

My least favorite of the 3 seasons, but still very good. Really wonder how far they'll go with things, hard to see a nuclear attack or something ever actually happening. They just had a better story to tell and more meaningful beats in the prior season.
KAB
KAB
Not in a hurry to watch it this time.
K
Finished season 3 last night. Still one of my favorite shows.

Anyone else wonder if there might be something else going on with Callum? Seems to me he has too much access to Russian intelligence.
meStevo
One episode into season 4 that dropped today...

Jon Stewart Popcorn GIF
Bobby
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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jsmit86
Regarding the no sound bug when watching 4K HDR events or DVR recordings with Dolby set to ON:
I got rolled back to H708 last night after getting an email from the support team. It fixed the bug.

The email indicated that they believed they found the issue, and if the fix works, they would roll it out via an update in the coming weeks.

So... we should see that bug exterminated in the near future.
long_time_Dish
148-04 says the NASCAR race on at noon on Sunday. Be interesting to see if it is.
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Bobby
MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
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Foxbat
MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
CFB, Notre Dame at BYU, Saturday 10-27, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
CFB, Ohio State at Indiana, Saturday 10-17, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona State at Texas Tech, Saturday 10-17, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.🙁

I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.

edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.
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Bobby
Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.🙁

I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.

edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.
As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.
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Bobby
As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.
As an edit, you need to sub to the National Action Pack at $12 a month to receive those channels.
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