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Dee_Ann
Last reply · posted in C-BAND Satellite Discussion
Obviously I don't have enough misery in my life so today I decided to take on the BUD again.
Rather pointless since I'm moving soon but again, I guess I needed to punish myself some more.

I had a Titanium C1PLL in place and it was pretty much mostly working. Not as well as it could but I figured that was a result of not having it aligned properly.

Some months ago I bought a pair of C2wPLLs but they have just sat gathering dust after I found out about moving.

Today I decided to go put one on my 10' BUD. It's an ODOM brand. That's all I know about it..

In the past I've never once taken to using any scientific or mathematical methods of aligning it, not even a little. I would just spend weeks futzing with it until I got lucky and hit something then I would just go full hands off and leave it parked on one satellite for months or years.

What really set me off on it again was that all of a sudden MeTV vanished for no good reason. So I figured I might as well go change the LNBF and see if I could get all precise like with it this time.

So, I took the LNBF and using a straightedge I drew a line down the outside of it that is perfectly aligned with it's ZERO mark.

Then I took a string and some clamps and I pulled a string line from the edges at the top and bottom and laid the string over the LNBF holder so that it was aligned perfectly with the center line of the dish and in prefect alignment with the polar mount.

Then I climbed the ladder and made a mark on the holder where the string was laying. If the dish were stood on it's edge perfectly vertical the mark I made would be at the exact top.

So then I put the new LNBF in the mount and lined it up with the new mark I made. This would put the LNBF so it's zero mark is perfectly aligned with the centerline of the dish.

I swung the dish back up and much to my dismay, nothing.. No signal at all.

Then I thought it might be the F/D (I don't fully understand what it even means and I certainly can't do the math) so I went the route of trying random settings, which got me nowhere at all.

Finally I decided to look up something about it and I read that you tie a string across the dish and measure the depth. I did that and it came out to 21 inches deep. I found a calculator for dishes and I put in the 10 foot and the 21 inch depth and it told me that the F/D should be .357 (I found this out after I already gave up for the night)

What makes this really difficult is that the dish is so big that I can not reach the LNBF without tipping it all the way over and then I have to climb up on a ladder. When it's tipped into the proper position for viewing, I can't reach anything even when I'm on a ladder. What I need is some sort of platform that I can extend into the dish that I can walk out on, mess with stuff then retract it back out of the way. But that's not likely to happen.

Since I have to tip it back and forth it's really hard to work on and I spend a great deal of time walking back and forth into the house to operate the motor.

Oh, also, I am reasonably confident that I have the elevation and declination set pretty close to what it should be, I expended a great deal of effort and angst over figuring that out much earlier this year. I also found a way to ensure that I have the azimuth set dead on as well.

What I'm not real sure about is should I have the LNBF aligned perfectly with the centerline of the dish?
Doesn't it like, change the skew as the dish tips, like a KU USALS does? I know on them you set the LNB to zero skew and the dish tips to change it.

Or am I completely missing something here? I'm thinking of going out to try changing the F/D now that I found a little calculator for it. I'm thinking that I had it wrong today. Obviously something was wrong as I could not find a signal at all after changing the LNBF.
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Dee_Ann
Actually, this is the best I've ever gotten this dish to work after having it up like almost 5 years.
mmewrench
In most cases you wont get the focal distance and the F\D ratio adjusted perfectly unless you have a way of moving the scaler closer, or further from the dish. Most of the newer dishes do not have this adjustment.

I have to agree with Primestar. Leave it alone and watch TV. Once you move in to the new house, you can take your time setting it up. The last time I upgraded to a new Bud (12 footer), I had the feed set up before I hung the dish on the pole and haven't touched it since.

geo-orbit.org has a goldmine of information. Read it all (over and over), and the next time you set up that Bud it will be so simple it will scare you.
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Dee_Ann
Cool beans... I'll do that.

I guess I will set up my FTA dishes when I move after all. I had really become very discouraged and was ready to just give up and quit.
But maybe I was a bit hasty. I'll set them up over there but I won't be in a huge hurry to get it done like I was planning on.
I'll make moving priority one. Maybe in next month or January I can do it. If I just worry about doing one dish at a time I can do it myself.
gabshere
Dee-ann
i aways like reading your posts :) not for the misery part but the story :) i have the other version of your dish which i hope to pull down next year and rehab a bit seems to have a bit of aged parts and hail damage ... 10 ft ODOM with 4 feedhorn support arms :) although the button hook you have seems to be doing well ...
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primestar31
I've had a few times myself when I just HAD to try to get that last little bit of performance, and made an adjustment that should have been quick, but ended up causing 5 hours or so of grief.

Sometimes you really do get it nearly perfect the first time out (even if you don't recognize that it is ok as-is), and any more playing with it just causes big trouble.
Foxbat
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Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
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Ronnie-
Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.


Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.


It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
navychop
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
navychop
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
KAB
KAB
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
S
Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade.. :what. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
ncted
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
Yeah, they boot up a bit slower than Roku, but the OS does a lot more, so it makes sense. How often are you booting them up that is a differentiator? Aside from OS updates, mine are on all the time. I will say the ATV4K is generally quicker than the Roku Ultras I have, when it comes to launching apps and responsiveness, not that the Roku is sluggish.
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navychop
apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
ncted
apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
I assume you mean services, like iCloud and Apple Music, and not actual software sales. Services have been growing quickly for Apple, but hardware still brings home the bacon. As for where Apple's revenue comes from, the iPhone is still king with 49.58% of revenue as of June 2026. Services comes in second with 28%. iPad, Mac, and Wearables/Home makes up the rest. So, that is 72% coming from hardware. Their profit margin is around 25%, FWIW.

I am skeptical the AppleTV 4k makes them much money on the hardware though, which I suspect is what you were getting at.
ncted
What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
You should have looked in the APP STORE instead. ;)
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navychop
Will do!
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Juan
Not alot of dish customers any more
Foxbat
I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
dishstaller
I really dislike change for the sake of change
dishdude
I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
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I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
Yes a lot cleaner, glossier, and less functional. Someone trying to justify why they are making a big salary. "See look shiny"
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cpdretired
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Several Dish offers showed up today in my account. Once you choose one the rest are removed. Offers were Showtime, Starz, AMC and others.
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Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.
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Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.
look again mine says free for 1 month
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Almighty1
look again mine says free for 1 month
Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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wonder why it says that
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Almighty1
look again mine says free for 1 month
You have a different offer that is free for a shorter timeframe which is different than the one that I and bnewt saw without defining the promotion period as I sent the question to DISH Care via Facebook Messenger and this is the response I got back 20 minutes ago.

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Almighty1
wonder why it says that
Answer 2 minutes ago from DISH Care via Facebook Messenger:
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osu1991
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Howard Simmons

Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
dishstaller
Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
TheRatPatrol
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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dfergie
I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Howard Simmons
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in Movie Talk
Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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dishstaller
BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.