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This is going to be a bit of a rant (sorry). I have always had problems with Dish receivers. I believe I'm on my third Hopper. They always send you refurbished units which means they didn't find the reported problem for that box because it only happened every week or two so there was no way to reproduce the problem. The recent box has two main problems, it occasionally just decides to reboot even if there is a program being viewed or recorded. It did that about 3 times earlier this year but hasn't happened since. The problem that happens on a regular basis is the recording schedule suddenly decides a program has been selected to be skipped by user or is a incorrect event. Sometimes if you try to "un-skip" or record the replacement event it refuses to make the change. The only way to fix that is to delete the timer and reinstall the timer. If you don't catch and fix the error then the program isn't recorded.
Two days ago the program guide only went to 1:30 AM the next morning. Support said turn the box off (standby) and it will redownload the guide. Indeed it did but there were many info not available spots. I had to do that 3 times before I finally got a complete program guide.
I check the recording schedule regularly during an evening of watching and recording. Last night was the "straw that may have broken the camel's back". Two correct programs were to record at 10 PM. The box decided they were incorrect events and crossed them out wouldn't let me reinstate them and wouldn't let me record them manually once they had started.. The only "fix" was to reboot. Then they showed in the "completed area" as incorrect programs and had to be started manually after losing the first few minutes of each program.
I'm sure Dish would be glad to replace my receiver yet again but 15 years of experience with replacement receivers is that they have similar or different intermittent problems. The "rebooting your receiver will fix 50% of the problems" chant by support is just stupid. It doesn't fix the problem it simply restarts the computer and the problem will show up again in a few hours/days/weeks.
So I am seriously thinking of leaving Dish for DirecTV. Perhaps it will have a different set of problems, perhaps not but I really can't take another 15 years of Dish problems and useless solutions.
Two days ago the program guide only went to 1:30 AM the next morning. Support said turn the box off (standby) and it will redownload the guide. Indeed it did but there were many info not available spots. I had to do that 3 times before I finally got a complete program guide.
I check the recording schedule regularly during an evening of watching and recording. Last night was the "straw that may have broken the camel's back". Two correct programs were to record at 10 PM. The box decided they were incorrect events and crossed them out wouldn't let me reinstate them and wouldn't let me record them manually once they had started.. The only "fix" was to reboot. Then they showed in the "completed area" as incorrect programs and had to be started manually after losing the first few minutes of each program.
I'm sure Dish would be glad to replace my receiver yet again but 15 years of experience with replacement receivers is that they have similar or different intermittent problems. The "rebooting your receiver will fix 50% of the problems" chant by support is just stupid. It doesn't fix the problem it simply restarts the computer and the problem will show up again in a few hours/days/weeks.
So I am seriously thinking of leaving Dish for DirecTV. Perhaps it will have a different set of problems, perhaps not but I really can't take another 15 years of Dish problems and useless solutions.
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I just reread this thread and you stated these skipped timers have been going on for 15 years... On the Hopper, we know the reason. On previous receivers, that obviously doesn't apply. You sure these aren't being skipped by someone else in your house ? 
In my house, my wife and I have a few extra kids we didn't know we had. Their names are "it wasn't me", " I don't know ", etc !
In my house, my wife and I have a few extra kids we didn't know we had. Their names are "it wasn't me", " I don't know ", etc !
Memories fade... we've been in this house for 13 years. My wife doesn't play with the programming. Its certainly been a bigger problem with the hopper. I'm not sure but I think it may be a new feature with the Hopper than you can go "above" the schedule and see what was not recorded and "why". That makes the whole thing more frustrating. Anyway if I catch the error before the recording time I can delete the timer and start over which should work.I just reread this thread and you stated these skipped timers have been going on for 15 years... On the Hopper, we know the reason. On previous receivers, that obviously doesn't apply. You sure these aren't being skipped by someone else in your house ?
Mexico takes on South Africa to open the World Cup Final (it is called the Final... this just isn't the World Cup Final... Final). The tournament has been plagued with rife malfeasance as FIFA has been committing all sorts of fraud with the ticket sales. Hotel rooms have gone unfilled as the prices to attend a game and stay somewhere are through the roof. I swear this is impacting Mansfield, OH hotel rates which are higher than average for the Indycar race. And there is a broadening VAR presence which will ruin things as nothing worse now when scoring a goal and knowing you can't quite celebrate yet as they check to see if a player was offside by a pixel a half-hour ago.
The Group Stage used to mean something, but now 32 of the 48... yeah, 48 teams are going to the Knockout Round. Getting into the Knockout Round used to be a big deal, even for the US. But now... if you don't lose all of your group stage games, you get to move on. Oi! And this is avoiding all the political stuff!
I have never been so unexcited for a World Cup before. Every game used to matter. But FIFA be darned if they don't try to squeeze out every dime they can out of the players, refs, and fans.
The Group Stage used to mean something, but now 32 of the 48... yeah, 48 teams are going to the Knockout Round. Getting into the Knockout Round used to be a big deal, even for the US. But now... if you don't lose all of your group stage games, you get to move on. Oi! And this is avoiding all the political stuff!
I have never been so unexcited for a World Cup before. Every game used to matter. But FIFA be darned if they don't try to squeeze out every dime they can out of the players, refs, and fans.
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Anybody been following the Tournaments? I've been watching all weekend on the various ESPN's...
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Last weekend I got in on a MLB game top of the 8th 1-1, first thought was extra innings... 
and it actually went extra after the 9th.
Catching a little of the AUSL, something to watch when I can't get into anything else.
and it actually went extra after the 9th. Catching a little of the AUSL, something to watch when I can't get into anything else.
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So...DirecTV advertises the Choice package with 95+ bonus channels for Satellite customers. You don't want 90+ of the 95...
Excluding PPV, premium networks, infomercial, shopping, religion, and non-English programming, there are 7 channels on satellite that are not on streaming:
NFL Network, MavTV, FE TV, Free Speech, NASA, INSP, and Pursuit. I'm pretty sure a couple of those are public interest that they have to carry to meet an FCC quota on satellite.
I hope they get called out for this advertising because that is ridiculous. One big network, NFL, will probably get added to streaming when their next agreement comes up, and the rest are likely very low viewership.
What about streaming, what do you get extra with the Choice package that isn't on Satellite:
Two stations - one of which is an internet TV - Fox Weather, and Heros & Icons (a diginet). Nothing special here to look at either.
If they cleaned up a couple of their agreements, added a few public interest stations to streaming, they could probably have their lineups match. It's close now, if you take out all the garbage on satellite that they earn money on. If they can sell infomercials on satellite, why can't they on streaming, seems like a miss. A bigger miss, including those stations in the "bonus channels just for satellite customers." Pretty sad marketing right there.
Attached is a comparison sheet of satellite vs streaming for the three main packages if anyone is interested.
MOD EDIT: See Post #3 for an up to date list of what channels are available on sat but not on streaming/internet, see Post #21 for an up to date list of what's available in the app for streaming customers, but not for sat customers.
Excluding PPV, premium networks, infomercial, shopping, religion, and non-English programming, there are 7 channels on satellite that are not on streaming:
NFL Network, MavTV, FE TV, Free Speech, NASA, INSP, and Pursuit. I'm pretty sure a couple of those are public interest that they have to carry to meet an FCC quota on satellite.
I hope they get called out for this advertising because that is ridiculous. One big network, NFL, will probably get added to streaming when their next agreement comes up, and the rest are likely very low viewership.
What about streaming, what do you get extra with the Choice package that isn't on Satellite:
Two stations - one of which is an internet TV - Fox Weather, and Heros & Icons (a diginet). Nothing special here to look at either.
If they cleaned up a couple of their agreements, added a few public interest stations to streaming, they could probably have their lineups match. It's close now, if you take out all the garbage on satellite that they earn money on. If they can sell infomercials on satellite, why can't they on streaming, seems like a miss. A bigger miss, including those stations in the "bonus channels just for satellite customers." Pretty sad marketing right there.
Attached is a comparison sheet of satellite vs streaming for the three main packages if anyone is interested.
MOD EDIT: See Post #3 for an up to date list of what channels are available on sat but not on streaming/internet, see Post #21 for an up to date list of what's available in the app for streaming customers, but not for sat customers.
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So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
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