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Last reply Jan 20, 2004 · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center

Getting a lot of Spam after becoming member here!

After I enrolled at this site, I have been getting a ton of spam! This is the only site I have registered at my business address. Is anyone else having this problem? It would lead me to believe that they are selling their membership lists, or have been hacked.

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mikew

Jan 20, 2004

Umm..not here.

Guderian

Jan 20, 2004

There is a new mass mailer worm out that is spreading very fast across the internet. Read about it here.

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_857408.html

and how to remove it here.

http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.beagle.a@mm.html

Scott Greczkowski

Jan 20, 2004

We do not sell, share or show anyone your email address. Nor have we been hacked.

I hate spam as much as you do.

ewindowman

Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 14 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th

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JSheridan

Wednesday at 5:06 PM

AT&T runs First Net which was set up so first responders have a signal almost everywhere, which is the case around here and up and down the east coast when I've been traveling. In my experience T-Mobile has the fastest network but patchy coverage while Verizon has a slow network and also patchy coverage as well. We also have a iPhone on T-Mobile and one on Mobile-X which uses the Verizon network, so comparison is easy.

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EarDemon

Wednesday at 6:31 PM

JSheridan said:
AT&T runs First Net which was set up so first responders have a signal almost everywhere, which is the case around here and up and down the east coast when I've been traveling. In my experience T-Mobile has the fastest network but patchy coverage while Verizon has a slow network and also patchy coverage as well. We also have a iPhone on T-Mobile and one on Mobile-X which uses the Verizon network, so comparison is easy.

I did a 2500 mile round trip road trip a few weeks ago, there were a handful of places where Verizon had service and I had nothing on FirstNet. Most notably in the backwoods of Kentucky and Tennessee. Those same places I had no service on T-Mobile either. In populated areas, like the Lexington metro and Knoxville metro AT&T not only had great coverage, better than Verizon and T-Mobile generally, they have n77 everywhere. I hit 1.2 Gbps or higher pretty much everywhere, beating out the other two. That is the exact opposite here back in Western NY. Very little n77 on AT&T here and T-Mobile always rockets to 1.5 Gbps or higher.

As far as I know, there is no AT&T tower in my town. The tower I connect to when I'm outside, no service indoors, is one about 4.5 miles north of me in a different town, I can barley latch on to band 12, not 14. It's LTE only but when near that tower I exceed 200 Mbps which is phenomenal for low band LTE, but T-Mobile and Verizon have mid band on the same tower, and i'm well over a gig.

I'm looking forward to the n14 conversion and deployment of n79/4.9 GHz. Since AT&T can't sell their home internet service in NY State, I don't expect big things from them besides the enhancements to FirstNet.

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JSheridan

Yesterday at 3:06 PM

EarDemon said:
... Since AT&T can't sell their home internet service in NY State, I don't expect big things from them besides the enhancements to FirstNet.

We're in NY and we can now. We're an AT&T retailer and have been selling AT&T Internet Air for a few months. It's $35 a month if you're an AT&T post paid subscriber, $55 a month if you're not a subscriber.

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 5:42 PM

JSheridan said:
We're in NY and we can now. We're an AT&T retailer and have been selling AT&T Internet Air for a few months. It's $35 a month if you're an AT&T post paid subscriber, $55 a month if you're not a subscriber.

The AT&T Internet that everyone has access to is AT&T WorldNet aka att.com which is the same backbone created in 1994 that is a joke. AT&T has 3 Internet tier 1 backbones. AT&T Global Network Services formerly IBM Global Network Services (prserv.net) and AT&T Emerging Network Services, formerly (CERFNet (California Educational and Research Foundation Network) that was part of NSFNet (National Science Foundation Network). AT&T WorldNet has always been a inferior and not the same quality as the other two which are highly respected.

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comfortably_numb

Yesterday at 7:58 PM

Almighty1 said:
The AT&T Internet that everyone has access to is AT&T WorldNet aka att.com which is the same backbone created in 1994 that is a joke

JSheridan is referring to ATT's (relatively) new 5G cellular home internet.

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Juan

Yesterday at 10:10 PM

comfortably_numb said:
JSheridan is referring to ATT's (relatively) new 5G cellular home internet.

Which connects to a backbone network

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comfortably_numb

Yesterday at 11:17 PM

Juan said:
Which connects to a backbone network

Fun fact.. the backhaul to the tower in Drexel, MO for both VZW and ATT is provided by CenturyLink

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Juan

Today at 8:29 AM

comfortably_numb said:
Fun fact.. the backhaul to the tower in Drexel, MO for both VZW and ATT is provided by CenturyLink

Backhaul only connects to the backbone...any cell phone tower in the verizon region ( core)..has to connect to the verizon backbone in some fashion..same with att..no matter what provider you use...the actual network ( routers and such) are owned by the cell phone company determine the speed of your cell phone connection

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comfortably_numb

Today at 9:28 AM

Juan said:
Backhaul only connects to the backbone...any cell phone tower in the verizon region ( core)..has to connect to the verizon backbone in some fashion..same with att..no matter what provider you use...the actual network ( routers and such) are owned by the cell phone company determine the speed of your cell phone connection

And yet the fiber to that tower is still provided by CenturyLink... so my point still stands, no?

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Almighty1

Today at 1:15 PM

comfortably_numb said:
And yet the fiber to that tower is still provided by CenturyLink... so my point still stands, no?

No, Fiber to the towers is not CenturyLink for Drexel, MO because it can be either ILEC (Incumbent Local Exchange Carrier) or it can be CLEC (Competitive Local Exchange Carrier).
CenturyLink which has been known as Lumen Technologies is not the incumbent carrier in Drexel. In the Drexel, Missouri wire center and surrounding Cass/Bates county lines, alternative fiber and Competitive Local Exchange Carriers (CLECs) with active transport infrastructure include:

Peoples Telecommunications (Peoples Services): Operates extensive localized fiber facilities directly in the Drexel and Louisburg area, functioning as the primary regional CLEC/independent carrier on the ground.
MoKan Communications (MoKan Dial): Maintains contiguous fiber routes right along the Missouri–Kansas border surrounding Drexel, often interconnecting or leasing dark fiber to neighboring towers.
Conexon Connect: Builds and operates middle-mile and last-mile fiber networks across Cass County in partnership with local electric cooperatives, providing modern fiber transport paths through rural pockets around Drexel.
Craw-Kan Telephone Cooperative: Holds an adjacent fiber footprint on the southern/Kansas edge of the Drexel exchange area that supports regional carrier transport.

(Note: While Consolidated Communications—which operates retail services under the Fidium brand—is the historical wireline incumbent in Drexel itself rather than CenturyLink, wireless carriers frequently bypass the ILEC copper plant by pulling backhaul from Peoples or Conexon's fiber rings.)

So when it comes to connecting to the internet, you are really dealing with up to 3 companies whether it's AT&T or Verizon.

With AT&T, it can be up to 3 companies.

The first company is AT&T Wireless or AT&T California (ILEC) which provides the wireless connection or wired circuit to you.
The second company which applies only to physical circuits and not wireless service is AT&T Advanced Solutions Inc better known as ASI as a CLEC who provides the data transport between you and the ISP. If this was wireless, then it would be second company being the ISP. AT&T WorldNet being the ISP.
The third company would be the ISP itself which would be AT&T WorldNet if this was a wired connection.

As far as the Verizon backbone is concerned which is what was known as UUNet aka AlterNet (AS 701) as BBNPlanet (AS 1) later known as GTE Internetworking/Genuity has been sold to Level 3 and then CenturyLink which rebranded to Lumen Technologies.

While it will connect to Verizon's backbone which highly depends on the Access Point Name (APN) as using San Francisco where I am located for example,
a direct Verizon mobile customer will connect to Verizon's backbone in San Francisco. A Comcast/XfinityMobile customer which uses Verizon's towers will not as the first hop as seen in traceroutes can be in Houston, Chicago or Atlanta so to reach someone who uses Verizon across the street, the data packet will travel to one of those first and then travel back to San Francisco using Verizon. In both cases, you will always see Verizon Wireless as the first few hops before it will reach Verizon's Internet Backbone. MVNOs do not use the default APN and usually has their own gateways which in the case for Xfinity Mobile is COMCAST.RSLR.VZWENTP which is read just like internet domain names, in reverse order, Verizon Enterprise-Reseller-Comcast. XfinityMobile originally had high latency because of this reason which I and many others complained about but XfinityMobile ignored the issue until I filed a complaint with the FCC that finally pushed it to Xfinity Mobile's Engineering department which finally made it connect to Verizon Wireless's IP network in San Francisco and connected to Verizon's backbone locally.

So basically the APN is the invisible network you will not see in the traceroutes due to:

Mobile Access Point Names (APNs) – Cellular Networks

A cellular APN (the gateway connecting a mobile device to the carrier's packet data network):
• Carrier-Grade NAT (CGNAT) and Tunneling: Cellular data traffic is typically encapsulated inside tunnels (such as GTP - GPRS Tunneling Protocol) and routed through massive carrier gateways.
• ICMP Filtering and Rate Limiting: Mobile carriers and core network routers frequently block, drop, or rate-limit ICMP/traceroute responses (TTL Expired messages) for security, privacy, and to reduce router processing overhead.
• Hidden Hops: Carrier-grade firewalls and internal routers may be configured not to reply to probes or decrement TTL in ways that expose their internal architecture.

The backbone one connects to is only one part of the equation as it depends a lot on what sites one frequently connects to and what backbones those destinations are connected with that determines the quickest path between the source and the destination. Some destination sites only are connected to one backbone and some are connected to multiple backbones for redundancy. That is why it matters to choose the ISP that works the best for the sites one connects to if you want the best performance possible as the lowest latency and the speed is the objective of reaching the sites you most frequent. While there are many tier 1 backbones, the ones that carry 90% of the traffic worldwide are the ones that hopefully whatever ISP one chooses is directly connected to. There are also private peering points and public peering points locally so it does not always have to travel to a backbone provided that there is a peering agreement between the networks. All of this is done using BGP4 (Border Gateway Protocol version 4) which is how routes are announced as the path is determined by ASN (Autonomous System Numbers) so the routing table for different IPv4 or IPv6 can route a different way which all depends on the BGP4 announcements that the destination networks announced so like some sites may be just AS 701 100% of the way while other sites may be AS 701 to AS 1 or more and if there is peering, it may not even touch AS 701 at all and just connect directly between ones own AS drectly the the others AS (Autonomous System). AS has nothing to do with physical distance but just the shortest path of getting there.

This is better explained here:

Multiple access to the Internet via BGP4 protocol | BGP.us

BGP routing protocol was implemented when extensive routing tables started to significantly slow down the routers’ operation. Classless routing technique (CIDR) eliminates many bottlenecks and increases the stability of the Internet.

www.bgp.us

As I own and run a ISP, a lot of sites are actually local on the network as it's all on Akamai Technologies CDN (Content Delivery Network) servers which are physically hosted at our location so if one was visiting Apple, Microsoft, etc, the content is already on the Akamai server so it usually does not even need to travel the entire internet to get to it.

But on my home connection which is Comcast, it does travel all the way on Comcast before it hands off to Akamai's network in San Jose, CA before it reaches the Akamai server in Los Angeles which is probably located at One Wilshire Blvd in LA.

tracert www.apple.com

Tracing route to e6858.dsce9.akamaiedge.net [23.199.1.26]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms <1 ms 192.168.2.1
2 4 ms 6 ms 4 ms 10.0.0.1
3 15 ms 19 ms 20 ms 10.22.121.18
4 21 ms 19 ms 28 ms po-54-rur01.sfmission.ca.sfba.comcast.net [162.151.1.129]
5 16 ms 9 ms 11 ms po-100-xar01.sfmission.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.85.57.245]
6 26 ms 10 ms 10 ms po-2-xar02.sfmission.ca.sfba.comcast.net [96.216.230.178]
7 22 ms 21 ms 16 ms ae-246-rar01.hayward.ca.sfba.comcast.net [96.216.231.69]
8 17 ms 18 ms 18 ms be-399-ar01.hayward.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.86.143.89]
9 18 ms 13 ms 17 ms be-36321-cs02.9greatoaks.ca.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.93.133]
10 32 ms 34 ms 22 ms be-2211-pe11.9greatoaks.ca.ibone.comcast.net [96.110.32.246]
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 12 ms 13 ms 11 ms ae11.r02.sjc01.icn.netarch.akamai.com [23.207.232.38]
13 25 ms 19 ms 22 ms ae7.r23.lax01.icn.netarch.akamai.com [23.193.113.12]
14 28 ms 34 ms 26 ms ae0.r22.lax01.mag.netarch.akamai.com [23.192.3.66]
15 28 ms 28 ms 26 ms ae1.r22.lax01.ien.netarch.akamai.com [23.192.3.99]
16 25 ms 25 ms 26 ms ae22.r04.border101.lax01.fab.netarch.akamai.com [23.203.155.29]
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 22 ms 21 ms 20 ms a23-199-1-26.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com [23.199.1.26]

Yet to reach Charles Schwab compared to Apple, it will actually use a Akamai server locally in the Silicon Valley on Akamai's network.

tracert www.schwab.com

Tracing route to e245857.x.akamaiedge.net [23.11.207.235]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 2 ms 15 ms 192.168.2.1
2 5 ms 4 ms 6 ms 10.0.0.1
3 14 ms 14 ms 16 ms 10.22.121.18
4 14 ms 9 ms 10 ms po-54-rur01.sfmission.ca.sfba.comcast.net [162.151.1.129]
5 14 ms 11 ms 11 ms po-100-xar01.sfmission.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.85.57.245]
6 15 ms 24 ms 13 ms ae-246-rar01.santaclara.ca.sfba.comcast.net [69.139.199.149]
7 17 ms 19 ms 21 ms be-299-ar01.santaclara.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.86.143.93]
8 50 ms 48 ms 53 ms 50.219.153.14
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 11 ms 10 ms 20 ms a23-11-207-235.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com [23.11.207.235]

The *'s just means that ICMP ping packets are blocked or ignored as long as the latency looks normal. If it's some high number, then it means there is packet loss.

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JSheridan

Today at 1:41 PM

comfortably_numb said:
JSheridan is referring to ATT's (relatively) new 5G cellular home internet.

Thanks, that's exactly right. AT&T wired or fiber is not around here. Unfortunately this is Verizon country.

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navychop

Today at 2:38 PM

JSheridan said:
Thanks, that's exactly right. AT&T wired or fiber is not around here. Unfortunately this is Verizon country.

AH! Soon to be StarLink country!

:devilish

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comfortably_numb

Today at 2:43 PM

Almighty1 said:
No, Fiber to the towers is not CenturyLink for Drexel, MO because it can be either ILEC (Incumbent Local Exchange Carrier) or it can be CLEC (Competitive Local Exchange Carrier).
CenturyLink which has been known as Lumen Technologies is not the incumbent carrier in Drexel. In the Drexel, Missouri wire center and surrounding Cass/Bates county lines, alternative fiber and Competitive Local Exchange Carriers (CLECs) with active transport infrastructure include:

Peoples Telecommunications (Peoples Services): Operates extensive localized fiber facilities directly in the Drexel and Louisburg area, functioning as the primary regional CLEC/independent carrier on the ground.

MoKan Communications (MoKan Dial): Maintains contiguous fiber routes right along the Missouri–Kansas border surrounding Drexel, often interconnecting or leasing dark fiber to neighboring towers.

Conexon Connect: Builds and operates middle-mile and last-mile fiber networks across Cass County in partnership with local electric cooperatives, providing modern fiber transport paths through rural pockets around Drexel.

Craw-Kan Telephone Cooperative: Holds an adjacent fiber footprint on the southern/Kansas edge of the Drexel exchange area that supports regional carrier transport.

(Note: While Consolidated Communications—which operates retail services under the Fidium brand—is the historical wireline incumbent in Drexel itself rather than CenturyLink, wireless carriers frequently bypass the ILEC copper plant by pulling backhaul from Peoples or Conexon's fiber rings.)

So when it comes to connecting to the internet, you are really dealing with up to 3 companies whether it's AT&T or Verizon.

With AT&T, it can be up to 3 companies.

The first company is AT&T Wireless or AT&T California (ILEC) which provides the wireless connection or wired circuit to you.
The second company which applies only to physical circuits and not wireless service is AT&T Advanced Solutions Inc better known as ASI as a CLEC who provides the data transport between you and the ISP. If this was wireless, then it would be second company being the ISP. AT&T WorldNet being the ISP.
The third company would be the ISP itself which would be AT&T WorldNet if this was a wired connection.

As far as the Verizon backbone is concerned which is what was known as UUNet aka AlterNet (AS 701) as BBNPlanet (AS 1) later known as GTE Internetworking/Genuity has been sold to Level 3 and then CenturyLink which rebranded to Lumen Technologies.

While it will connect to Verizon's backbone which highly depends on the Access Point Name (APN) as using San Francisco where I am located for example,
a direct Verizon mobile customer will connect to Verizon's backbone in San Francisco. A Comcast/XfinityMobile customer which uses Verizon's towers will not as the first hop as seen in traceroutes can be in Houston, Chicago or Atlanta so to reach someone who uses Verizon across the street, the data packet will travel to one of those first and then travel back to San Francisco using Verizon. In both cases, you will always see Verizon Wireless as the first few hops before it will reach Verizon's Internet Backbone. MVNOs do not use the default APN and usually has their own gateways which in the case for Xfinity Mobile is COMCAST.RSLR.VZWENTP which is read just like internet domain names, in reverse order, Verizon Enterprise-Reseller-Comcast. XfinityMobile originally had high latency because of this reason which I and many others complained about but XfinityMobile ignored the issue until I filed a complaint with the FCC that finally pushed it to Xfinity Mobile's Engineering department which finally made it connect to Verizon Wireless's IP network in San Francisco and connected to Verizon's backbone locally.

So basically the APN is the invisible network you will not see in the traceroutes due to:

Mobile Access Point Names (APNs) – Cellular Networks

A cellular APN (the gateway connecting a mobile device to the carrier's packet data network):
• Carrier-Grade NAT (CGNAT) and Tunneling: Cellular data traffic is typically encapsulated inside tunnels (such as GTP - GPRS Tunneling Protocol) and routed through massive carrier gateways.
• ICMP Filtering and Rate Limiting: Mobile carriers and core network routers frequently block, drop, or rate-limit ICMP/traceroute responses (TTL Expired messages) for security, privacy, and to reduce router processing overhead.
• Hidden Hops: Carrier-grade firewalls and internal routers may be configured not to reply to probes or decrement TTL in ways that expose their internal architecture.

The backbone one connects to is only one part of the equation as it depends a lot on what sites one frequently connects to and what backbones those destinations are connected with that determines the quickest path between the source and the destination. Some destination sites only are connected to one backbone and some are connected to multiple backbones for redundancy. That is why it matters to choose the ISP that works the best for the sites one connects to if you want the best performance possible as the lowest latency and the speed is the objective of reaching the sites you most frequent. While there are many tier 1 backbones, the ones that carry 90% of the traffic worldwide are the ones that hopefully whatever ISP one chooses is directly connected to. There are also private peering points and public peering points locally so it does not always have to travel to a backbone provided that there is a peering agreement between the networks. All of this is done using BGP4 (Border Gateway Protocol version 4) which is how routes are announced as the path is determined by ASN (Autonomous System Numbers) so the routing table for different IPv4 or IPv6 can route a different way which all depends on the BGP4 announcements that the destination networks announced so like some sites may be just AS 701 100% of the way while other sites may be AS 701 to AS 1 or more and if there is peering, it may not even touch AS 701 at all and just connect directly between ones own AS drectly the the others AS (Autonomous System). AS has nothing to do with physical distance but just the shortest path of getting there.

This is better explained here:

Multiple access to the Internet via BGP4 protocol | BGP.us

BGP routing protocol was implemented when extensive routing tables started to significantly slow down the routers’ operation. Classless routing technique (CIDR) eliminates many bottlenecks and increases the stability of the Internet.

www.bgp.us

As I own and run a ISP, a lot of sites are actually local on the network as it's all on Akamai Technologies CDN (Content Delivery Network) servers which are physically hosted at our location so if one was visiting Apple, Microsoft, etc, the content is already on the Akamai server so it usually does not even need to travel the entire internet to get to it.

But on my home connection which is Comcast, it does travel all the way on Comcast before it hands off to Akamai's network in San Jose, CA before it reaches the Akamai server in Los Angeles which is probably located at One Wilshire Blvd in LA.

tracert www.apple.com

Tracing route to e6858.dsce9.akamaiedge.net [23.199.1.26]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms <1 ms 192.168.2.1
2 4 ms 6 ms 4 ms 10.0.0.1
3 15 ms 19 ms 20 ms 10.22.121.18
4 21 ms 19 ms 28 ms po-54-rur01.sfmission.ca.sfba.comcast.net [162.151.1.129]
5 16 ms 9 ms 11 ms po-100-xar01.sfmission.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.85.57.245]
6 26 ms 10 ms 10 ms po-2-xar02.sfmission.ca.sfba.comcast.net [96.216.230.178]
7 22 ms 21 ms 16 ms ae-246-rar01.hayward.ca.sfba.comcast.net [96.216.231.69]
8 17 ms 18 ms 18 ms be-399-ar01.hayward.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.86.143.89]
9 18 ms 13 ms 17 ms be-36321-cs02.9greatoaks.ca.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.93.133]
10 32 ms 34 ms 22 ms be-2211-pe11.9greatoaks.ca.ibone.comcast.net [96.110.32.246]
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 12 ms 13 ms 11 ms ae11.r02.sjc01.icn.netarch.akamai.com [23.207.232.38]
13 25 ms 19 ms 22 ms ae7.r23.lax01.icn.netarch.akamai.com [23.193.113.12]
14 28 ms 34 ms 26 ms ae0.r22.lax01.mag.netarch.akamai.com [23.192.3.66]
15 28 ms 28 ms 26 ms ae1.r22.lax01.ien.netarch.akamai.com [23.192.3.99]
16 25 ms 25 ms 26 ms ae22.r04.border101.lax01.fab.netarch.akamai.com [23.203.155.29]
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 22 ms 21 ms 20 ms a23-199-1-26.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com [23.199.1.26]

Yet to reach Charles Schwab compared to Apple, it will actually use a Akamai server locally in the Silicon Valley on Akamai's network.

tracert www.schwab.com

Tracing route to e245857.x.akamaiedge.net [23.11.207.235]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 2 ms 15 ms 192.168.2.1
2 5 ms 4 ms 6 ms 10.0.0.1
3 14 ms 14 ms 16 ms 10.22.121.18
4 14 ms 9 ms 10 ms po-54-rur01.sfmission.ca.sfba.comcast.net [162.151.1.129]
5 14 ms 11 ms 11 ms po-100-xar01.sfmission.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.85.57.245]
6 15 ms 24 ms 13 ms ae-246-rar01.santaclara.ca.sfba.comcast.net [69.139.199.149]
7 17 ms 19 ms 21 ms be-299-ar01.santaclara.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.86.143.93]
8 50 ms 48 ms 53 ms 50.219.153.14
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 11 ms 10 ms 20 ms a23-11-207-235.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com [23.11.207.235]

The *'s just means that ICMP ping packets are blocked or ignored as long as the latency looks normal. If it's some high number, then it means there is packet loss.

Sorry, I meant Consolidated. That's who provided my DSL when I lived there and the tech who installed it told me they provide the backhaul to that tower. People's has only been in town for two years, maybe less.

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MikeD-C05

Today at 2:44 PM

Wow ,who would of thought there was this much to talk about when it came to phone companies?

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comfortably_numb

Today at 2:46 PM

MikeD-C05 said:
Wow ,who would of thought there was this much to talk about when it came to phone companies?

One ringy dingy, two ringy dingies...

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Strega

14 minutes ago

The movie "The President's Analyst" warned us about the telephone industrial complex.

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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Lights - Journey

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Hit the Lights - Metallica

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Hit The Road Jack - Ray Charles

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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply Today at 2:40 PM · posted in Ham Radio, SDR & Police Scanner Technology

Getting into HAM in 2024?

Hard to believe that the guy who runs this site, whos main focus is communications, and a guy who lives less than a half mile from the ARRL and W1AW does not have his ham license!

Well I want to change that in 2024!

Our local police department is moving to our states digital system next month and I have been working with our police department to get ready for the move, as I am the one who streams their radios online to Broadcastify. They put up a test feed for me and I was having trouble picking it up in the house, so last week as a christmas gift for me I put up a brand new Diamond D3000N Antenna on the roof. The Antenna is 40 feet in the air, on top of that our house is on top of a hill.

With that new antenna I am now picking up the. new digital system... and since I got the new antenna... which can also transmit at up to 200 watts... this may be the time to get into ham radio.

So how do I get started? What advice can people give? What kind of euipment should I be saving up for?

Without Morse Code, I should be able to pass the test without an issues.

So where do I go from here?

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jayn_j

Jan 11, 2026

For us, it was Mr Witte at our high school. He convinced the district to approve equipment and space for a station in the school. He also convinced them that study hall could be spent at the station and taught us thoery during that period. He came up with tapes for learning Morse as well. As a result, we all earned our novice license at 12 (6 year high school), and general about 6 months later.

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reubenray

Today at 10:44 AM

What would be a ballpark cost of getting into HAM radios? This would be for the equipment, antennas, etc.

WhiteBeard

Today at 11:43 AM

reubenray said:
What would be a ballpark cost of getting into HAM radios? This would be for the equipment, antennas, etc.

HF can be expensive if you want to put up a 50+ foot tower with a tri-band antenna and rotor - that would cost several thousands of dollars. But you can get HF radios that are under $1k and use a multiband dipole antenna that's under $100. It'll be additional cost for mobile radios and handheld radios that operate in the VHF/UHF bands. You can probably get into ham radio for under $200 but if you're serious you'll need to spend some bucks. The cost will depend on what you want to do.

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dishstaller

Today at 1:31 PM

WhiteBeard said:
if you want to put up a 50+ foot tower with a tri-band antenna and rotor - that would cost several thousands of dollars.

Yep, those tower sections went through the roof a few years ago. I used to carry them and retailed them for about $125 per section, a little more for the top. The cost got so high my distributor quit carrying them.

navychop

Today at 2:40 PM

Don't forget the cost of the head examination.

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Last reply Today at 10:47 AM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 12:48 AM

Wow. I guess it's good that incantation still works. I would have figured that Microsoft would have come up with a better solution to patch management by now. I think I learned that back in the W2000 or XP days…

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HipKat

Yesterday at 6:53 AM

Foxbat said:
Wow. I guess it's good that incantation still works. I would have figured that Microsoft would have come up with a better solution to patch management by now. I think I learned that back in the W2000 or XP days…

I'll be running it this weekend. I had to boot into Windows the other day, and it froze after booting with a Python error. A hard reset, and it booted fine, but I've had Wiondows freeze a few times over the last few months during boot.

Those commands are something I've always kept for times like this, after I run Samsung Magician, should it not find the issue.

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harshness

Yesterday at 11:14 AM

HipKat said:
... but I've had Wiondows freeze a few times over the last few months during boot.

I highly recommend running a default Memtest86 test (four passes, all tests) on the machine. Note that it may take all night.

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primestar31

Yesterday at 3:44 PM

I use a Beelink Mini PC, Intel 12th Gen Alder Lake- N95 running Windows 11 Pro as my Channels DVR. I only log into it when I need to, and do that with the Remote Desktop app from my personal Windows 10 laptop.

It runs Channels DVR, plus Docker Desktop and a few bridge programs used with Channels like that. It's supposed to auto-logon into my profile back into the Windows Desktop, and auto start all those things. EVERY TIME it reboots for whatever reason, usually only AFTER one of these push updates at 3am, Channels itself restarts fine, but my Docker Desktop and two bridge programs do NOT restart unintended like they should.

IF I then log into the Windows desktop using the Remote Desktop app, Docker and my bridge programs THEN engage and startup as they should.

What's wrong with my settings, so I can fix this once and for all to properly log into my profile after an automatic update reboot to bring up Windows and allow these programs to autostart as they should?

b4pjoe

Yesterday at 3:57 PM

primestar31 said:
I use a Beelink Mini PC, Intel 12th Gen Alder Lake- N95 running Windows 11 Pro as my Channels DVR. I only log into it when I need to, and do that with the Remote Desktop app from my personal Windows 10 laptop.

It runs Channels DVR, plus Docker Desktop and a few bridge programs used with Channels like that. It's supposed to auto-logon into my profile back into the Windows Desktop, and auto start all those things. EVERY TIME it reboots for whatever reason, usually only AFTER one of these push updates at 3am, Channels itself restarts fine, but my Docker Desktop and two bridge programs do NOT restart unintended like they should.

IF I then log into the Windows desktop using the Remote Desktop app, Docker and my bridge programs THEN engage and startup as they should.

What's wrong with my settings, so I can fix this once and for all to properly log into my profile after an automatic update reboot to bring up Windows and allow these programs to autostart as they should?

I don't use docker on my windows 11 pc but I do use Channels DVR and after updates it reverts back to the login screen and Channels DVR does not run until I login. I have been burned by this several times. How are you getting windows 11 to auto log in?

primestar31

Yesterday at 4:24 PM

b4pjoe said:
How are you getting windows 11 to auto log in?

Apparently, I'm not, that's my problem.

The Channels DVR software can be set as a service, and that starts automatically whether anybody is logged in or not after the pc reboots. That's a choice when you first install it by checking a box. There's likely a way to bring that choice back up after it's been installed for a while, BUT, you'd have to ask them on their forum for the best way to do it as I don't remember.

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b4pjoe

Yesterday at 4:41 PM

primestar31 said:
Apparently, I'm not, that's my problem.

The Channels DVR software can be set as a service, and that starts automatically whether anybody is logged in or not after the pc reboots. That's a choice when you first install it by checking a box. There's likely a way to bring that choice back up after it's been installed for a while, BUT, you'd have to ask them on their forum for the best way to do it as I don't remember.

Channels Community

I think I tried it as a service once and it would not let me use hardware transcoding and forced it to software transcoding.

primestar31

Yesterday at 5:53 PM

primestar31 said:
I use a Beelink Mini PC, Intel 12th Gen Alder Lake- N95 running Windows 11 Pro as my Channels DVR. I only log into it when I need to, and do that with the Remote Desktop app from my personal Windows 10 laptop.

It runs Channels DVR, plus Docker Desktop and a few bridge programs used with Channels like that. It's supposed to auto-logon into my profile back into the Windows Desktop, and auto start all those things. EVERY TIME it reboots for whatever reason, usually only AFTER one of these push updates at 3am, Channels itself restarts fine, but my Docker Desktop and two bridge programs do NOT restart unintended like they should.

IF I then log into the Windows desktop using the Remote Desktop app, Docker and my bridge programs THEN engage and startup as they should.

What's wrong with my settings, so I can fix this once and for all to properly log into my profile after an automatic update reboot to bring up Windows and allow these programs to autostart as they should?

Ok, I just used Google A.I. to tell me how to fix all this, so I'm all set now as that makes it all easy and step by step. I changed an admin setting in gpedit so that automatic updates will download, but will prompt me for install and reboot, they aren't allowed to automatically install and reboot at 3 am anymore. I then changed my one bridge program to start via Task Scheduler instead of its own autostart feature, so it'll log in with my Windows account after a 1 minute delay

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HipKat

Yesterday at 6:32 PM

harshness said:
I highly recommend running a default Memtest86 test (four passes, all tests) on the machine. Note that it may take all night.

I'll run it while I'm at work but this only happens when I boot into Windows, never Linux

harshness

Today at 10:47 AM

HipKat said:
I'll run it while I'm at work but this only happens when I boot into Windows, never Linux

Windows consumes considerably more RAM than Linux, so your chances of encountering flaky RAM with Windows are similarly higher.

It is a non-destructive test, so all you have to lose is access to the computer for the duration of the abortable test.

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