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Occasionally I work from home, and with the amount of snow we've received so far this winter, it has been more so then normal. My internet service from Time Warner has always been top notch reliable and completely rock solid, but so far this Winter, snow plows have destroyed the cabling at the pole, not once, not twice but three times. Each time requiring a new line from my tap to the RG11 line that runs into my garage. They have been quick to respond, but with the horrific snow that we received this winter, coupled with the driving bans, it does mean I'm without internet (phone and cable TV) access for a day or two.
Due to the mission critical nature of some of the things I am responsible for at work, I can't be without internet access, when I work from home. So I need a reliable back up to my 50Mb (actually overprovisioned to 55Mb) cable connection. Verizon does not provide DSL service at my address, there are no WISPs in the area and cellular data is not an option. I live in a rural area. AT&T has no 4G here, T-Mobile has no service here period, Verizon has 4G but due to the distance of where I am from the tower speeds were never that great provided I can maintain a connection and I am currently a Sprint customer, I can get one bar of LTE in my bathroom, that gives me an average of 15Mb down/5Mb up, but once I leave the bathroom, I drop to 1X.
So I'm exploring satellite as an option. Work will reimburse me any and all installation costs and like my normal TWC broadband, they will allow me to expense my back up internet. So essentially this will not cost me a dime. So which sucks less, Hughes or Exede? I am a networking guy, but never played around with setting up and configuring a dual WAN set up. At home I am outfitted with Cisco gear from their Small Business line and have an RV320 router which supports dual WAN load balancing and failover.
1) Which sucks less Hughes Net or Excede? Gen 4 is available in my area and so is Excede according to Wild Blue's website.
2) I know the latency is outrageous with satellite internet, is the high latency enough to make doing RDP or VNC while connected to my company's SSL VPN near impossible?
3) With both satellite internet providers if you go over your cap, you're just slowed down to dial up speeds correct? There are no overages?
4) In a dual WAN failover set up, is it possible to restrict what the secondary internet source can feed and have it restricted somehow by local IP address, MAC address or router port numbers? For example, my four port router feeds my main desktop PC directly, two Cisco SG-200 8 port smart switches in different areas of the house and my Cisco WAP371 wireless access point. If I was in a failover situation and running solely on satellite internet, I would not want smartswitch #2 to have any internet access since that feeds data to all of my home entertainment devices (TV, A/V Receiver, Blu Ray Player, PS4, Xbox One, DirecTV DECA and Genie Go). I don't really want a chunk of my satellite cap to be chewed up by an Xbox or Playstation update, or me being bone headed and doing something like downloading a game inadvertently. Smart switch #1 just feeds two additional desktop PCs, one which is rarely ever used, and my Philips Hue hockey puck so I don't care about that and I don't run a lot my on WIFI other than my two laptops and printer, which would be needed for work purposes if I'm stuck at home.
Does a sat internet solution make sense in my situation? Any other thoughts on the idea?
Due to the mission critical nature of some of the things I am responsible for at work, I can't be without internet access, when I work from home. So I need a reliable back up to my 50Mb (actually overprovisioned to 55Mb) cable connection. Verizon does not provide DSL service at my address, there are no WISPs in the area and cellular data is not an option. I live in a rural area. AT&T has no 4G here, T-Mobile has no service here period, Verizon has 4G but due to the distance of where I am from the tower speeds were never that great provided I can maintain a connection and I am currently a Sprint customer, I can get one bar of LTE in my bathroom, that gives me an average of 15Mb down/5Mb up, but once I leave the bathroom, I drop to 1X.
So I'm exploring satellite as an option. Work will reimburse me any and all installation costs and like my normal TWC broadband, they will allow me to expense my back up internet. So essentially this will not cost me a dime. So which sucks less, Hughes or Exede? I am a networking guy, but never played around with setting up and configuring a dual WAN set up. At home I am outfitted with Cisco gear from their Small Business line and have an RV320 router which supports dual WAN load balancing and failover.
1) Which sucks less Hughes Net or Excede? Gen 4 is available in my area and so is Excede according to Wild Blue's website.
2) I know the latency is outrageous with satellite internet, is the high latency enough to make doing RDP or VNC while connected to my company's SSL VPN near impossible?
3) With both satellite internet providers if you go over your cap, you're just slowed down to dial up speeds correct? There are no overages?
4) In a dual WAN failover set up, is it possible to restrict what the secondary internet source can feed and have it restricted somehow by local IP address, MAC address or router port numbers? For example, my four port router feeds my main desktop PC directly, two Cisco SG-200 8 port smart switches in different areas of the house and my Cisco WAP371 wireless access point. If I was in a failover situation and running solely on satellite internet, I would not want smartswitch #2 to have any internet access since that feeds data to all of my home entertainment devices (TV, A/V Receiver, Blu Ray Player, PS4, Xbox One, DirecTV DECA and Genie Go). I don't really want a chunk of my satellite cap to be chewed up by an Xbox or Playstation update, or me being bone headed and doing something like downloading a game inadvertently. Smart switch #1 just feeds two additional desktop PCs, one which is rarely ever used, and my Philips Hue hockey puck so I don't care about that and I don't run a lot my on WIFI other than my two laptops and printer, which would be needed for work purposes if I'm stuck at home.
Does a sat internet solution make sense in my situation? Any other thoughts on the idea?
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Just a quick update on this. About a month ago I got the new Netgear Fuse mobile hotspot from Sprint. Ideally I would like this thing hardwired to my PC or better yet the router via USB, but there is next to no cell reception in my home office. So I have the hot spot sitting on the windowsill of my bathroom, where I get two bars of LTE from the tower about 4 miles away and connect via wifi. That's -101 dBm on band 25. Speeds aren't that shabby for living in the middle of nowhere.
I opted for the 3GB plan for $35 for the time being and will pay for it myself and will try it out to see the reliability. If I feel confident it will be reliable enough for me if I'm stuck at home for a few days and if the cable goes down, then I will upgrade to the 12GB plan for $80 and expense it.
What is really nice is the almost real time, up to the second data usage meter on the display of the hot spot. After doing some rough analysis, 12 GB could probably give me two to two and a half days worth of data to work from home if I use it vigilantly . If I get close, I can always upgrade to the 30GB plan for $30 more and drop back down later on, and if work doesn't reimburse me, so what, total difference won't be more then $50 bucks after taxes and fees.
Kinda bum'd that I won't get to play with the dual WAN functionality of my router, and I won't have the convenience of automatic failover, but these ping times are a tad bit better than the 800+ms pings I've seen posted around the internet for satellite. If/when band 26 ever gets here I'll be golden. VPN, RDP and VNC are working almost flawlessly over the LTE connection so far.
I opted for the 3GB plan for $35 for the time being and will pay for it myself and will try it out to see the reliability. If I feel confident it will be reliable enough for me if I'm stuck at home for a few days and if the cable goes down, then I will upgrade to the 12GB plan for $80 and expense it.
What is really nice is the almost real time, up to the second data usage meter on the display of the hot spot. After doing some rough analysis, 12 GB could probably give me two to two and a half days worth of data to work from home if I use it vigilantly . If I get close, I can always upgrade to the 30GB plan for $30 more and drop back down later on, and if work doesn't reimburse me, so what, total difference won't be more then $50 bucks after taxes and fees.
Kinda bum'd that I won't get to play with the dual WAN functionality of my router, and I won't have the convenience of automatic failover, but these ping times are a tad bit better than the 800+ms pings I've seen posted around the internet for satellite. If/when band 26 ever gets here I'll be golden. VPN, RDP and VNC are working almost flawlessly over the LTE connection so far.
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Due to security concerns and the fact that the Tapatalk Plugin for Xenforo is no longer being updated we have removed Tapatalk support from SatelliteGuys.
For those who were using it we recommend using our PWA App instead which is faster and does not have all the spam Tapatalk had. Below is a graphic showing how to add SatelliteGuys to your devices home screen. (While iOS is shown the process is mostly the same for Android.)
Thanks for your understanding.
For those who were using it we recommend using our PWA App instead which is faster and does not have all the spam Tapatalk had. Below is a graphic showing how to add SatelliteGuys to your devices home screen. (While iOS is shown the process is mostly the same for Android.)
Thanks for your understanding.
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Actually, PWA stands for "Progressive Web Application" and is basically just saving a site's homepage to your desktop where it appears as an "App" with the rest of your smartphone's Apps.
A PWA is a custom version of SatelliteGuys which is optimized for mobile devices. While it may look like the website, its actually different so that only the files needed for mobile are sent, meaning its a much faster experience all around.
TapaTalk is essentially dead. It was written for PHP 5.4 and we are now running PHP 8.4. There have been a LOT of PHP security updates since then and since Tapatalk for Xenforo has not been updated in a long long time it is not the safest idea to keep running it.
In addition those trying to view the site on their mobile devices using a browser were getting spammed on the top of the screen for people to install TapaTalk, this ad in some cases would take up 20% of the users screen. We could get rid of that ad but we would have to pay $20 a month to get rid of it.
In addition TapaTalk could and was inserting their own ads on SatelliteGuys in the app which only benefitted them, SatelliteGuys was not paid for those ads they were displaying on our site. Again we could pay to get rid of those ads.
And here was the cost of the Premium Tier.
Now to make matters worse Tapatalk recently announced that they are going to start charging users of the app 99 cents a month to continue using it.
So soon you would be paying them each month to access SatelliteGuys via their app, again all the money going to them... and you would still see all their ads too.
Tapatalk was a great program which we run for many many years, and for a long time we DID pay for the premium tier. But now with such a small offset using it (My numbers show a total of 6 members) it wasn't work paying for any longer.
In addition Tapatalk was sold to a different owner who made lots of promises of improvements and updates but then that owner has been really radio silent since, instead they have been letting TapaTalk rot on the vine.
If you visit their support forum at https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/tapatalksupport/ you will see there is not much going on, in fact most of the support questions posted there go unanswered.
Please give the PWA a try, I was a die hard Tapatalk user myself but now only use the PWA on devices. It is a much better all around experience, with no bloatware or additional ads based on your user membership level.
I don't have an android phone so I could not make a graphic showing you how to add SatelliteGuys PWA to your phones apps or home screen. But here is a site that explains how to do it on all kinds of devices. How to Install a PWA on iOS, Android, Windows & Mac [2025 Guide]
The above link also explains PWA's better as well.
If Tapatalk were to update their plugins so we know we are more secure and up to date and allow us to remove the "Smart Banner" without having to pay $20 a month, we would consider adding it back. I don't even care about their ads, as if a user wants to use their app and is willing to sit through their ads in order to use that app then I am ok with it.
But hopefully that explains better why it was removed. It was not done to cut anyone off from the site. Please give the PWA a try.
TapaTalk is essentially dead. It was written for PHP 5.4 and we are now running PHP 8.4. There have been a LOT of PHP security updates since then and since Tapatalk for Xenforo has not been updated in a long long time it is not the safest idea to keep running it.
In addition those trying to view the site on their mobile devices using a browser were getting spammed on the top of the screen for people to install TapaTalk, this ad in some cases would take up 20% of the users screen. We could get rid of that ad but we would have to pay $20 a month to get rid of it.
In addition TapaTalk could and was inserting their own ads on SatelliteGuys in the app which only benefitted them, SatelliteGuys was not paid for those ads they were displaying on our site. Again we could pay to get rid of those ads.
And here was the cost of the Premium Tier.
Now to make matters worse Tapatalk recently announced that they are going to start charging users of the app 99 cents a month to continue using it.
So soon you would be paying them each month to access SatelliteGuys via their app, again all the money going to them... and you would still see all their ads too.
Tapatalk was a great program which we run for many many years, and for a long time we DID pay for the premium tier. But now with such a small offset using it (My numbers show a total of 6 members) it wasn't work paying for any longer.
In addition Tapatalk was sold to a different owner who made lots of promises of improvements and updates but then that owner has been really radio silent since, instead they have been letting TapaTalk rot on the vine.
If you visit their support forum at https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/tapatalksupport/ you will see there is not much going on, in fact most of the support questions posted there go unanswered.
Please give the PWA a try, I was a die hard Tapatalk user myself but now only use the PWA on devices. It is a much better all around experience, with no bloatware or additional ads based on your user membership level.
I don't have an android phone so I could not make a graphic showing you how to add SatelliteGuys PWA to your phones apps or home screen. But here is a site that explains how to do it on all kinds of devices. How to Install a PWA on iOS, Android, Windows & Mac [2025 Guide]
The above link also explains PWA's better as well.
If Tapatalk were to update their plugins so we know we are more secure and up to date and allow us to remove the "Smart Banner" without having to pay $20 a month, we would consider adding it back. I don't even care about their ads, as if a user wants to use their app and is willing to sit through their ads in order to use that app then I am ok with it.
But hopefully that explains better why it was removed. It was not done to cut anyone off from the site.
Please give the PWA a try.
I just installed the PWA on my Android phone. It was pretty easy to do, and now I'm posting this from my phone. Thanks, Scott!A PWA is a custom version of SatelliteGuys which is optimized for mobile devices. While it may look like the website, its actually different so that only the files needed for mobile are sent, meaning its a much faster experience all around.
TapaTalk is essentially dead. It was written for PHP 5.4 and we are now running PHP 8.4. There have been a LOT of PHP security updates since then and since Tapatalk for Xenforo has not been updated in a long long time it is not the safest idea to keep running it.
In addition those trying to view the site on their mobile devices using a browser were getting spammed on the top of the screen for people to install TapaTalk, this ad in some cases would take up 20% of the users screen. We could get rid of that ad but we would have to pay $20 a month to get rid of it.
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In addition TapaTalk could and was inserting their own ads on SatelliteGuys in the app which only benefitted them, SatelliteGuys was not paid for those ads they were displaying on our site. Again we could pay to get rid of those ads.
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And here was the cost of the Premium Tier.
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Now to make matters worse Tapatalk recently announced that they are going to start charging users of the app 99 cents a month to continue using it.
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So soon you would be paying them each month to access SatelliteGuys via their app, again all the money going to them... and you would still see all their ads too.
Tapatalk was a great program which we run for many many years, and for a long time we DID pay for the premium tier. But now with such a small offset using it (My numbers show a total of 6 members) it wasn't work paying for any longer.
In addition Tapatalk was sold to a different owner who made lots of promises of improvements and updates but then that owner has been really radio silent since, instead they have been letting TapaTalk rot on the vine.
If you visit their support forum at https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/tapatalksupport/ you will see there is not much going on, in fact most of the support questions posted there go unanswered.
Please give the PWA a try, I was a die hard Tapatalk user myself but now only use the PWA on devices. It is a much better all around experience, with no bloatware or additional ads based on your user membership level.
I don't have an android phone so I could not make a graphic showing you how to add SatelliteGuys PWA to your phones apps or home screen. But here is a site that explains how to do it on all kinds of devices. How to Install a PWA on iOS, Android, Windows & Mac [2025 Guide]
The above link also explains PWA's better as well.
If Tapatalk were to update their plugins so we know we are more secure and up to date and allow us to remove the "Smart Banner" without having to pay $20 a month, we would consider adding it back. I don't even care about their ads, as if a user wants to use their app and is willing to sit through their ads in order to use that app then I am ok with it.
But hopefully that explains better why it was removed. It was not done to cut anyone off from the site.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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As you may have noticed we are doing a Fund Raiser for SatelliteGuys!
As many of you know I have been paying for a majority of the operation of the site out of my own pocket for awhile now. Now looking at things we have a number of renewals coming up that I could use some help with. These renewals include the license renewal for our Forum Software, Renewal of a number of our add on's the site uses, renewal of domain names etc.
I have set a goal of $400.00 - any extra that comes in will just go to fund the operations of the site. None of the money will go to me (I tried BuyMeACoffee a few months ago, and they denied me saying they do not do business with Satellite Piracy sites... which we are not... hell we host the beta programs for both DISH and DIRECTV here...)
Anyways... if you would like to help out please click the link below.
www.satelliteguys.us
Thank you in advance.
As many of you know I have been paying for a majority of the operation of the site out of my own pocket for awhile now. Now looking at things we have a number of renewals coming up that I could use some help with. These renewals include the license renewal for our Forum Software, Renewal of a number of our add on's the site uses, renewal of domain names etc.
I have set a goal of $400.00 - any extra that comes in will just go to fund the operations of the site. None of the money will go to me (I tried BuyMeACoffee a few months ago, and they denied me saying they do not do business with Satellite Piracy sites... which we are not... hell we host the beta programs for both DISH and DIRECTV here...)
Anyways... if you would like to help out please click the link below.
SatelliteGuys Maintenance Fund Raiser
www.satelliteguys.us
Thank you in advance.
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I planned on removing it today, but then my fathers car broke down and I had to drive him all around to get his stuff done. Then I had a doctors appointment after that which was annoying...
Dr asks me if I have had any changes, so I tell him something wrong with me that started a month or so ago and his reply back is, that it sucks to get old... I hate that. Why ask me. if your going to come back with a smart ass answer.
Anyays I hope to get rid of Tapatalk tomorrow.
And we had more people donate today, thank you! The extra money is going to future expenses since things like add ons don't expire at the same time.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU AGAIN!
Dr asks me if I have had any changes, so I tell him something wrong with me that started a month or so ago and his reply back is, that it sucks to get old... I hate that. Why ask me. if your going to come back with a smart ass answer.
Anyays I hope to get rid of Tapatalk tomorrow.
And we had more people donate today, thank you! The extra money is going to future expenses since things like add ons don't expire at the same time.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU AGAIN!
Tapatalk has been removed.
I have added a new feature which is a work in progress called "Social Feed" which displays the forums Facebook style. Its nice for people who like that, but needs work. But i have been watching this one for awhile and the author is being really responsive to suggestions and adding them. So if you have any please let me know and I can pass them along.
I have added a new feature which is a work in progress called "Social Feed" which displays the forums Facebook style. Its nice for people who like that, but needs work. But i have been watching this one for awhile and the author is being really responsive to suggestions and adding them. So if you have any please let me know and I can pass them along.
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Time for another AWESOME video from TFL Electric Vehicles!
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I have had good experiences with Brave but lately I am frustrated with it.
Now when I launch the app it shows a box at the bottom asking if I want to go back to the last opened page. It is in conveniently located and I would prefer to eliminate it.
Does anyone know how to do this?
Please let's not sidetrack the discussion into an exploration of why I don't care for it or a lecture about all the wonderful aspects of the feature. I just do not care for it.
Now when I launch the app it shows a box at the bottom asking if I want to go back to the last opened page. It is in conveniently located and I would prefer to eliminate it.
Does anyone know how to do this?
Please let's not sidetrack the discussion into an exploration of why I don't care for it or a lecture about all the wonderful aspects of the feature. I just do not care for it.
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I don't have an Android phone so I don't know if this will apply to the Brave settings on your android device but it works on the desktop for me.
Change this setting to either startup to a different website or a new tab page. I have mine set to open to google.com instead of where I left off and it doesn't ask me at the next startup if I want to open the last opened page unless it crashed.
Change this setting to either startup to a different website or a new tab page. I have mine set to open to google.com instead of where I left off and it doesn't ask me at the next startup if I want to open the last opened page unless it crashed.
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Since the Reds have there thread we should too!
Last watched Nine inch Nails
Next 3:10 to Yuma
Last watched Nine inch Nails
Next 3:10 to Yuma
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Looking for a manual. Want to do some radio astronomy with it. Realize it's old but, since it's not for tv use don't need any decoders, just the RF section.
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New low power station has been granted by the FCC and the new call leter is K33OB-D on RF ch. 33.
Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.
It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.
This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.
Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.
It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.
This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.
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The 'get after it media' stations
www.getafteritmedia.com
Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etc
probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations
Get After It Media
www.getafteritmedia.com
probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations
Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etcGet After It Media
We already have those diginets here.
Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets on like the Rev'n, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. 
Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets like Revn, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station.
I watch MovieSphere Gold channel a lot. Many recent movies on that digitnet
Yes that's a good channel MovieSphere, only thing is the missing CC on it. 
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Direct YouTube Link - Paul's Microsoft Build 2026 Takeaways #shorts
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