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Last reply Jul 11, 2005 · posted in Cable Television and Fiber Providers

is it possible to have 2 dish's go through one cable?

is it possible to have 2 dish's go through one cable into the house and then split?

ok, basically i have directv right now and i'm starting to get into fta for fun. the problem is there is one coax cable going into the house being used by directv, the other by my cable internet. my question is once i install the second dish, can i have both dish cables go to a switch to have it travel along one cable into the house, then have a splitter to go to the recievers? will the recievers be able to distinguish the signal it needs? or can i run the fta signal alongside the cable internet line? i really don't think it's possible but i would like to avoid having to bring in another cable.

thanks,
ismael m

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Major-V

Jul 10, 2005

Tate Satellites said:
Just like iceberg said No, No, and if you did not get it hell NOOO. The Absolute easiest way to to this is just bite the bullet and run another wire. "And for the guy who was talking about doing the dpp44 switch for dish network, dude if you would have read the post he clearly says he has DIRECTV, so back off talking about installers any dishnetwork guy does this same thing you talked about everyday".

If you were purely going with fta you could do it with a switch made for fta. But please save yourself the time and headace trying to figure this out and just run another cable.

I read his post. Obviously, you DID NOT read mine carefully enough ---> DUDE. I was talking about my "OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE". And since I have Dish Net., that's what I used as my example to describe the MISINFORMATION that is sometimes provided by UNEDUCATED Installers and/or Cable/Satellite reps. My point in the story above was simple: DON'T take the word of a so called "expert" on the technology of stacking and destacking signals on one cable wire because 9 times out of 10, those so called "experts" are full of you know what.

There may be a way to stack and destack the original poster's signals onto one cable wire -- you have to research this and you may have to engage in some trial and error. Whatever you do, don't trust the instant "NO CAN DO" response.

END of rant.

Jared Twomey

Jul 10, 2005

Major-V said:
I read his post. Obviously, you DID NOT read mine carefully enough ---> DUDE. I was talking about my "OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE". And since I have Dish Net., that's what I used as my example to describe the MISINFORMATION that is sometimes provided by UNEDUCATED Installers and/or Cable/Satellite reps. My point in the story above was simple: DON'T take the word of a so called "expert" on the technology of stacking and destacking signals on one cable wire because 9 times out of 10, those so called "experts" are full of you know what.

There may be a way to stack and destack the original poster's signals onto one cable wire -- you have to research this and you may have to engage in some trial and error. Whatever you do, don't trust the instant "NO CAN DO" response.

END of rant.

what you are describing as your install at your house is a very simple example of signal stacking, ecspecially now with dish's dual tuner receivers most of us use diplexers on all kinds of back feeds, ota, and cable combination...

the reason i am chiming in is because it just kind of aggravated me that you are sitting here trying to shoot down the advice given by the so called "experts" on this forum... i agree, there are some installers out there that don't know what they are doing... i had a guy working for me that installed these things for over a year, and never saw or used a diplexer... but i think your 9 out of 10 ratio is way off, i think it's probably the other way around..
also, the original post was put on this forum because he wanted the "experts" advice, he got it, DON'T DO IT, it won't work by any easy means anyway... i mean sure, if you are willing to pay any amount possible, i'm sure some electronics engineer out there can figure out a way to drop the freq of one of the signals, then at the inside of the house convert the signal back to it's original freq.

in fact, from what i understand about dish networks proplus technology that's kinda what they do, one side of the separator uses the dishpro freq, the other uses legacy freq... (i could be wrong about that)

anyway, he asked a question, the "experts", (the guys that mess with dishs all day long, 5 or 6 days a week, and are certified to do so) gave him the reasonable answer to his question.... NO, Can't be done

Major-V

Jul 10, 2005

birddoggy said:
what you are describing as your install at your house is a very simple example of signal stacking, ecspecially now with dish's dual tuner receivers most of us use diplexers on all kinds of back feeds, ota, and cable combination...

the reason i am chiming in is because it just kind of aggravated me that you are sitting here trying to shoot down the advice given by the so called "experts" on this forum... i agree, there are some installers out there that don't know what they are doing... i had a guy working for me that installed these things for over a year, and never saw or used a diplexer... but i think your 9 out of 10 ratio is way off, i think it's probably the other way around..
also, the original post was put on this forum because he wanted the "experts" advice, he got it, DON'T DO IT, it won't work by any easy means anyway... i mean sure, if you are willing to pay any amount possible, i'm sure some electronics engineer out there can figure out a way to drop the freq of one of the signals, then at the inside of the house convert the signal back to it's original freq.

in fact, from what i understand about dish networks proplus technology that's kinda what they do, one side of the separator uses the dishpro freq, the other uses legacy freq... (i could be wrong about that)

anyway, he asked a question, the "experts", (the guys that mess with dishs all day long, 5 or 6 days a week, and are certified to do so) gave him the reasonable answer to his question.... NO, Can't be done

Yeah, and I gave him the advice to NOT listen to so called "experts".

There are no "experts" out there (in my opinion) -- regardless of education, PHD level, etc. Even a smart doctor will tell you that there are no absolutes and no certainties in anything. Anyone claiming to be an "expert" in anything is an "expert" storyteller. That's because an "expert" spends most of his/her time defending his/her position without giving any thought to possiblities outside of his/her limited scope of knowledge on the subject.

Furthermore, it's obvious, using my example alone, that there must be something out there for the OP to try to stack his two satellites onto one cable wire (if I can stack 3 locations and a landline cable connection, I'm sure the technology is out there somewhere). Deductive reasoning alone tells me there must be a cheap viable solution rather than punching holes in the wall to run legacy CABLE and fish it through the walls. (what a great way to keep the installers in business...if I do say so myself).

The first thing the original poster should do is find out the frequencies of both of his satellites and see whether or not both require power to pass through. He may also have to call around to specialty shops that sell these signal stackers and destackers on the internet and give them the frequencies each satellite uses and see how expensive the technology is to do this. Otherwise, yes, it may be cheaper to just run another line (I doubt it).

sateck01

Jul 10, 2005

bmw007 said:
ok, basically i have directv right now and i'm starting to get into fta for fun. the problem is there is one coax cable going into the house being used by directv, the other by my cable internet. my question is once i install the second dish, can i have both dish cables go to a switch to have it travel along one cable into the house, then have a splitter to go to the recievers? will the recievers be able to distinguish the signal it needs? or can i run the fta signal alongside the cable internet line? i really don't think it's possible but i would like to avoid having to bring in another cable.

thanks,
ismael m

you have directv, right.

at the op box you have a splitter that seperates the internet and the tv lines. take the out outbound tv line to the ant in port on a 3X4 multiswitch, then use diplexers before every ird, sat goes to sat in, ant goes to antenna in, not sat port. the computer line has to be left alone. this will only work with a round dish.

as for charlies set-up, i have no clue, there are so many screwy switches involved it is un-real

the directv / cable set up will work, been there done that

HCI

Jul 11, 2005

Major-V said:
Yeah, and I gave him the advice to NOT listen to so called "experts".

There are no "experts" out there (in my opinion) -- regardless of education, PHD level, etc. Even a smart doctor will tell you that there are no absolutes and no certainties in anything. Anyone claiming to be an "expert" in anything is an "expert" storyteller. That's because an "expert" spends most of his/her time defending his/her position without giving any thought to possiblities outside of his/her limited scope of knowledge on the subject.

Furthermore, it's obvious, using my example alone, that there must be something out there for the OP to try to stack his two satellites onto one cable wire (if I can stack 3 locations and a landline cable connection, I'm sure the technology is out there somewhere). Deductive reasoning alone tells me there must be a cheap viable solution rather than punching holes in the wall to run legacy CABLE and fish it through the walls. (what a great way to keep the installers in business...if I do say so myself).

The first thing the original poster should do is find out the frequencies of both of his satellites and see whether or not both require power to pass through. He may also have to call around to specialty shops that sell these signal stackers and destackers on the internet and give them the frequencies each satellite uses and see how expensive the technology is to do this. Otherwise, yes, it may be cheaper to just run another line (I doubt it).

Look you really have no clue what you are talking about.

As I said before and most anyone who reads this that actually knows what they are doing, that does this everyday not just for a hobby will say the same thing. The best and CHEAPEST way to do this is JUST RUN ANOTHER CABLE. The reason you can do it is you have dish network and thats all. No directv and no fta. That is were his problem is he is asking how to put both systems on one cable. Dish network, Directv, and even the fta systems have switchs that you can use to combine each individual system. It could be a dp34 to combine three satellites together for dish, a 5X4 for 2 lnbs on directv or a DiSEqC for fta. These switches are for the system they were built for and I will add if he could find a switch that would do it the switch along with the combinder and separator is going to be way more expensive than just running a new wire. 100 to 200 dollars vs. maybe 10 to 15. Hum let me see which one I would want to do.

BMW just run a new wire.

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Traditional/Streaming Live TV Providers Losses, 3rd Quarter 2026 Edition

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In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.

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Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?

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Oct 24, 2026

ncted said:
Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?

yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration

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(((Garyd)))

Oct 24, 2026

brice52 said:
yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration

The fiber coming in to the house looks like 300 ohm old TV wire I think that is the weak point.

Bruce

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dishstaller said:
Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.

They have been losing broadband subscribers for about 4 years now.

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(((Garyd))) said:
The fiber coming in to the house looks like 300 ohm old TV wire I think that is the weak point.

I agree, even it fails the isp will come and install another one

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Got to admit I never thought I'd see the day that cable lost internet subs.

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Got to admit I never thought I'd see the day that cable lost internet subs.

I think the cable companies didnt either, back when they had no real competition in their footprint.

But today, for many, maybe even most, cable isnt the only choice, or even the best.

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Monday at 12:22 PM

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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
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nelson61 said:
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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
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Can't remember where or who I saw predict this.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

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Bruce

Tuesday at 10:17 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

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Scott Greczkowski

Tuesday at 10:22 AM

Bruce said:
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.

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Bruce

Tuesday at 11:30 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.

Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.

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man00

Yesterday at 12:15 PM

Is Dish like Iran in one way...they both will totally collapse by end of week

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 12:16 PM

Other than the price, my experience with Boost is not that different than what I experienced with my years with Cricket. I will be curious to see what happens if SpaceX takes the reins.

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 2:54 AM

Bruce said:
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.

dish has new sats dtv does not

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renjy651

Today at 6:37 AM

slow_poke_pete said:
dish has new sats dtv does not

Hate to say this no one is ordering Satellite TV. Both DISH and Direct no new customers.
After 25 years with centurylink DSL 80 speed i changed to Xfinity 300 speed for $50 wow lightning fast for streaming. Still have DISH 27 years with them. Americas 250 package for $103. What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?
Still dish is easy to operate and change channels. What will Charlie Ergen do with new super satellites with loosing customers with satellites and boost?

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