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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV General Forum
Looks like DIRECTV is getting closer to launching live linear 4K as their new Reverse Band are starting to find their way to warehouses across the country.

It is expected with this LNB hooked up to a new DIRECTV HR-54 and using a 4K RVU Client or a C61K client box DIRECTV customers will be able to watch live 4K television when it launches after the new year.

It is rumored the first 2 4K Channels DIRECTV will offer is The Audience Network 4K... and another 4 Letter Sports Network, who's name I can't remember. ;)

There will be two different reverse band LNB's, The other LNB will fit the Slingline 5 dish. As soon as we have one we will post pictures as well.

Thanks for making SatelliteGuys your choice for DIRECTV news and Information.
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Guaranteed Directv will continue to use 101, we just don't know for sure what they'll be using it for. Stuart Sweet keeps saying Directv plans to abandon 119 after the MPEG2 shutdown but it isn't clear if that was something he heard officially from Directv or he's guessing.

The D7S satellite at 119 is getting old, though they would have other options if they wanted to keep using 119. I can't see them continuing with 110, three transponders isn't worth the trouble - and it hasn't been used in the US for years anyway.

It would be easier for them to drop 110/119 and have everyone use an SL3, but that would mean Dish (eventually) getting the use of those transponders. Maybe Directv doesn't care about that anymore, or they've made some deal with them over that we aren't aware of.
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As was suggested some time back, it would seem to be a pretty logical and even swap if DIRECTV would give Dish their 14 Ku licenses at 110/119 in exchange for Dish relinquishing their claim on the Reverse Band at 103W.

But again, that's all speculation of course...

Well its a little more complicated than that, since Dish has no claim on that, it is actually a Canadian company called Ciel that holds the ITU license for RB at 103W. I haven't seen any updates from the FCC for ages about the status of that (but then I don't really know where the heck to look on their site for that)

Dish could shelve their plans for the 25K dishes on cell towers that were going to use Ciel's license, but that doesn't solve Directv's problem unless Dish has some leverage with Ciel to get them to agree to FCC coordination in a manner that results in Directv being able to use RB@103W all the way to the Canadian border.

This would make sense for everyone involved if Directv can get guarantees about RB's future, can drop 110/119 and maybe replace Slimline with a smaller less oval dish, and Dish can have the same bandwidth available in both arcs. Ciel doesn't care unless they have a customer for the RB package on the Ciel-6i satellite at 103W.
Claude Greiner
Guaranteed Directv will continue to use 101, we just don't know for sure what they'll be using it for. Stuart Sweet keeps saying Directv plans to abandon 119 after the MPEG2 shutdown but it isn't clear if that was something he heard officially from Directv or he's guessing.

The D7S satellite at 119 is getting old, though they would have other options if they wanted to keep using 119. I can't see them continuing with 110, three transponders isn't worth the trouble - and it hasn't been used in the US for years anyway.

It would be easier for them to drop 110/119 and have everyone use an SL3, but that would mean Dish (eventually) getting the use of those transponders. Maybe Directv doesn't care about that anymore, or they've made some deal with them over that we aren't aware of.

They will not abandon 110 and 119. The whole purpose of holding on to those assets was to deny Dish Network use of those transponders.

The second Directv gives up their 14 licenses at 110/119, you know Dish Network is applying for them.

Unless AT&T is in bed with Charlie, I don't see this happening.

Several things need to happen...

#1 all SD equipment must be replaced with HD equipment.

#2 once all SD equipment is replaced all programming needs to go to MPEG4 / 8PSK

#3 All SD Duplicate feeds of HD programming must cease.

#4 Popular HD channels such as ESPN should be moved from 99/103 to 101 since the signal
Is stronger and to reduce rain fade on more popular often watched channels.

#5 any additional capacity on 99/103/110/119 should be used to expend 4K.

#6 Directv should consider moving international programming from 95 to 119/110 before making the decision to stop providing programming at 119.

At the very least 110 should be used, as any Dish that can see 119, also sees 110
Claude Greiner
Well its a little more complicated than that, since Dish has no claim on that, it is actually a Canadian company called Ciel that holds the ITU license for RB at 103W. I haven't seen any updates from the FCC for ages about the status of that (but then I don't really know where the heck to look on their site for that)

Dish could shelve their plans for the 25K dishes on cell towers that were going to use Ciel's license, but that doesn't solve Directv's problem unless Dish has some leverage with Ciel to get them to agree to FCC coordination in a manner that results in Directv being able to use RB@103W all the way to the Canadian border.

This would make sense for everyone involved if Directv can get guarantees about RB's future, can drop 110/119 and maybe replace Slimline with a smaller less oval dish, and Dish can have the same bandwidth available in both arcs. Ciel doesn't care unless they have a customer for the RB package on the Ciel-6i satellite at 103W.

But I think it's a matter of convince also.

For dish to fire up and use 14 transponders at 110/119 is no big deal for them. Customers already have the correct dishes in place.

For Directv to use the reverse band, they need to swap LNB's for every customer that wants the additional programming.

The same holds true for using 110/119, but there is the possibility with line of site issues where that is not the case going with a reverse band.
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But I think it's a matter of convince also.

For dish to fire up and use 14 transponders at 110/119 is no big deal for them. Customers already have the correct dishes in place.

For Directv to use the reverse band, they need to swap LNB's for every customer that wants the additional programming.

The same holds true for using 110/119, but there is the possibility with line of site issues where that is not the case going with a reverse band.
Although, if Dish were to get DIRECTV's 14 transponders at 110/119, which would place them on the western arc of course ...

Considering this would be effectively useless unless Dish can do for one arc what it can likewise do for the other. Does Dish have enough, or can clear up, the extra capacity on their eastern arc to match a gain of 14 transponders on the western?
Claude Greiner
Although, if Dish were to get DIRECTV's 14 transponders at 110/119, which would place them on the western arc of course ...

Considering this would be effectively useless unless if Dish can not do for one arc what it does likewise for the other. Does Dish have enough, or can clear up, the extra capacity on their eastern arc to match a gain of 14 transponders on the western?

Wasn't eastern arc supposed to be 61.5/72/77 ?

If I'm not mistaken they are not using 72 or 77?

Technically eastern arc would Have more capacity than western arc.

Also eastern arc is 100% mpeg4 8psk. Western arc is not at this time
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Wasn't eastern arc supposed to be 61.5/72/77 ?

If I'm not mistaken they are not using 72 or 77?

Technically eastern arc would Have more capacity than western arc.

Also eastern arc is 100% mpeg4 8psk. Western arc is not at this time
AIUI, they're not using 77W on the EA except for some local markets well south of the Canadian border. Since the bird there can't have full CONUS coverage for national programming without interference to Canada.
Claude Greiner
AIUI, they're not using 77W on the EA except for some local markets well south of the Canadian border. Since the bird there can't have full CONUS coverage for national programming without interference to Canada.

Still it can be used
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Still it can be used
But definitely not for national programming with a coverage like this (currently from E6 or 8)...

Coverage from 77°

The beam can't hit the northern part of the CONUS without spilling over into Canada which is using the same 12.2-12.7 GHz Ku DBS frequencies for service at 77W nominal.
ChrisK114
Okay I was installed in May. Got info and test and it shows this. Does this mean I am ready?
nelson61
But definitely not for national programming with a coverage like this (currently from E6 or 8)...

Coverage from 77°

The beam can't hit the northern part of the CONUS without spilling over into Canada which is using the same 12.2-12.7 GHz Ku DBS frequencies for service at 77W nominal.
???????

77w provides full conus coverage well into Canada and down to Panama and has essentially the full Dish SD suite transmitting along with a few locals (which cover also conus).
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Okay I was installed in May. Got info and test and it shows this. Does this mean I am ready?
Yep ...

That's the Slimline-3 version of the Reverse Band capable LNBs and the most popular one.

I have the Slimline-5 version of that same LNB myself because of DIRECTV's stupid policy of keeping a favorite holiday music channel of my sister's on the 119W satellite for 11 out of 12 months of the year.
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???????

77w provides full conus coverage well into Canada and down to Panama and has essentially the full Dish SD suite transmitting along with a few locals (which cover also conus).
Canada providers do not use 77. Only dish Mexico and dish usa.
Ok, I'm lost here then (never been a Dish sub.)...

If Dish service is still authorized for full CONUS coverage at 77W, why are the footprints from the satellites there still not covering the northern CONUS?

And why has Dish apparently abandoned 77W for CONUS coverage by long distributing the EA Twin LNB?
raoul5788
Ok, I'm lost here then (never been a Dish sub.)...

If Dish service is still authorized for full CONUS coverage at 77W, why are the footprints from the satellites there still not covering the northern CONUS?

And why has Dish apparently abandoned 77W for CONUS coverage by long distributing the EA Twin LNB?
Since this is a Directv forum you would be better off asking in the Dish area.
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They will not abandon 110 and 119. The whole purpose of holding on to those assets was to deny Dish Network use of those transponders.

The second Directv gives up their 14 licenses at 110/119, you know Dish Network is applying for them.

Unless AT&T is in bed with Charlie, I don't see this happening.

Several things need to happen...

#1 all SD equipment must be replaced with HD equipment.

#2 once all SD equipment is replaced all programming needs to go to MPEG4 / 8PSK

#3 All SD Duplicate feeds of HD programming must cease.

#4 Popular HD channels such as ESPN should be moved from 99/103 to 101 since the signal
Is stronger and to reduce rain fade on more popular often watched channels.

#5 any additional capacity on 99/103/110/119 should be used to expend 4K.

#6 Directv should consider moving international programming from 95 to 119/110 before making the decision to stop providing programming at 119.

At the very least 110 should be used, as any Dish that can see 119, also sees 110


1. I think you misunderstand what "abandon 110/119" entails. Directv doesn't have to surrender any broadcast licenses, they just quit using those slots. After some time when they are inactive, Dish can petition the FCC to get temporary permission to use them which they have to renew every six months - like they are doing with three of the transponders at 61.5W. I don't know how long after Directv "abandons" 110/119 before Dish can apply, and how long Directv can gum up the works, but I think it is safe to say that it would be a few years at minimum after the 2019 MPEG2 shutdown before Dish could start using them if Directv was not cooperative. If they had a deal with Dish, then they could surrender their license to the FCC, but Dish would still only get temporary permission to use them and have to reapply every six months.

Numbers 2 & 3 will be taken care of in 2019, that's what the whole "MPEG2 shutdown" is about - though they don't need to go 8PSK. Directv isn't using 8PSK for any CONUS transponders now, Dish is forced to compress everything more due to their small amount of bandwidth compared to Directv.

4. They could move popular HD channels to 101, but it isn't certain that is what they will do. They might carry MPEG4 SD duplicates of everything from 101, so that 101 only dishes on RVs continue to be useful (they would not have locals, but RV accounts can get the NYC or LA locals that are CONUS)

5. Expand 4K? There may never be enough 4K channels to fill up the 36 reverse band transponders they have now, so I don't think anyone needs to be worried about "expanding 4K" for many years, if ever.

6. The 95* satellite will go away at the same they drop MPEG2 SD in 2019, that programming will likely go to 101. Theoretically it could go to 119 if they keep 119 around, but I don't just don't see the value in keeping that slot to be honest.
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Numbers 2 & 3 will be taken care of in 2019, that's what the whole "MPEG2 shutdown" is about - though they don't need to go 8PSK. Directv isn't using 8PSK for any CONUS transponders now, .

Good analysis, but just one note of correction ...

DIRECTV actually is using 8-PSK for 4 national Spanish HD channels on 119 CONUS tp. 24. And has been doing so for some time now.
Bruce
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
I was reading this article


That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.


Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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There are contracts on streaming services. If you want a cheaper price you have to sign up for a year and pay the full amount. If you want to cancel you can but you don't get any money back. They don't cancel it until that yearly subscription ends. So if you don't want a contract you have to pay the higher monthly fee. But at least now you have a choice which way to go.
Jimbo
There are contracts on streaming services. If you want a cheaper price you have to sign up for a year and pay the full amount. If you want to cancel you can but you don't get any money back. They don't cancel it until that yearly subscription ends. So if you don't want a contract you have to pay the higher monthly fee. But at least now you have a choice which way to go.
I wish all Streaming services offered Yearly deals.
b4pjoe
I wish all Streaming services offered Yearly deals.
Yeah if you know you are going to be there for that long you can definitely save some money. Disney+ and Hulu both have yearly deals but not if you bundle them. You have to just go monthly when you bundle them.
Jimbo
Yeah if you know you are going to be there for that long you can definitely save some money. Disney+ and Hulu both have yearly deals but not if you bundle them. You have to just go monthly when you bundle them.
I have 2 that I know I'll do for sure year round, thats Netflix and Paramount Plus ...
The others I use fron time to time, although Hulu I find myself using this past year (I have it in a Bundle with ESPN and Disney) Surprisingly, I find ESPN almost useless.
Bruce
Comcast Corporation, one of the largest telecommunications and media conglomerates in the United States, has shed more than 13 million pay-TV subscribers since reaching its zenith in the late 2000s. The company's video subscriber base, which includes traditional cable television services, stood at approximately 24.2 million customers toward the end of 2008. By the close of the first quarter of 2026, that figure had plummeted to roughly10.95 million, representing a loss of about 13.25 million subscribers, or more than half of its historical peak.

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Comcast Corporation, one of the largest telecommunications and media conglomerates in the United States, has shed more than 13 million pay-TV subscribers since reaching its zenith in the late 2000s. The company's video subscriber base, which includes traditional cable television services, stood at approximately 24.2 million customers toward the end of 2008. By the close of the first quarter of 2026, that figure had plummeted to roughly10.95 million, representing a loss of about 13.25 million subscribers, or more than half of its historical peak.


Couldn't happen to a nicer company!
Bruce
The average monthly cost of cable television in the United States has climbed to $147, marking a significant increase that reflects broader trends in media consumption and rising operational expenses for providers. This figure represents the baseline expense for standard television packages across major cable operators, excluding additional fees for premium channels, equipment rentals, or taxes that often push household bills even higher.

This is without Broadband services ( bundled), also, paying a lot more for a lot less new scripted content and now….sports.

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Anyone know how Canadians are doing with cord cutting? I would think there could be added incentive simply in that Canadian cable/sat has been heavily regulated to exclude much of US content in order to promote home content. Streaming would seem to cut through any of that, presuming there aren't restrictions on that as well. Or maybe US streamers won't sell there?
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Wasn't there a law passed a long time back mandating service providers level the sound from one ch. to the next? Or was that just for within any single given ch., and not letting commercials be boosted? Regardless it's a pain on DiSH with some ch's way louder than others, and having to jockey the sound up & down. Is there some fix? Can some TVs compensate for this?
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depend on how you tv and box is setup? as both have "audio" leveling

for me if I have audio leveling on hopper enabled DD is lower then Stereo if i turn off on h3 turn on tv it the reverse. Almost ALL streaming channels much lower volume level then statalite channels.

Either way one my pet peaves is that even channel seem to have it own "audio level" and so to commericals and none of the actual audio leveling functions actual fix this and never have. would be nice if every channel dish/dtv/fios etc all made volume level defualt to same dB so atlest all channel where consistent volume probably wont help commercials though.

To my knowledge no TV has ever had audio leveling function that actual fixed that all it really does it either lower or raise the volume
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depend on how you tv and box is setup? as both have "audio" leveling

for me if I have audio leveling on hopper enabled DD is lower then Stereo if i turn off on h3 turn on tv it the reverse. Almost ALL streaming channels much lower volume level then statalite channels.

Either way one my pet peaves is that even channel seem to have it own "audio level" and so to commericals and none of the actual audio leveling functions actual fix this and never have. would be nice if every channel dish/dtv/fios etc all made volume level defualt to same dB so atlest all channel where consistent volume probably wont help commercials though.

To my knowledge no TV has ever had audio leveling function that actual fixed that all it really does it either lower or raise the volume
maybe he should post his gear so we could look into it 🤔.. t.v. soundbars AVR whatever he's running.. our home theater has volume leveling but so does our soundbar in the bedroom:)
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maybe he should post his gear so we could look into it 🤔.. t.v. soundbars AVR whatever he's running.. our home theater has volume leveling but so does our soundbar in the bedroom:)

Most stuff has all this volume leveling, almost all them dont work the way should or advertised as. maybe "ai" versions of volume level will work closer to way we would like to which make all channels and inputs same defualt sound level, including commercials

There is reason my entire mp3/audio music collection on my pc was changed to have same defualt "dB" for all files via something like MP3Gain so there all same defualt volume level and there for I never have to play around with my volume. I know Winamp could change dB defualts but never worked as good as just manual changing all the audio/mp3/music collection files to just be all the same
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But doesn't music require a lot of dynamic range? At least classical & the like? So there has to be allowance for some highs without attenuation, and some lows without boosting. It seems there needs to be some kind of a universal median level that all sources can register to, that still allows for both soft and loud intermittently. My dad always had westerns on and the gunshots really rang out
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That's a fundamental issue with volume levels - it's not just that people want some "level" but that the material itself can demand (or at least so says the creator) a wide dynamic range or a smaller one. ie: do you boost the typical conversations upward and use most of your range just for voices? Or do you leave room for the explosions and jet engines. Creators and viewer/listeners all vary in their priorities, and most volume-leveling products are trying to do things in real time so they have very little context to work with. Even when using a tool that reads a whole file and displays a peak volume, you can wonder how often such a volume occurs and then you can disagree on how important it is for something like an explosion to have any clipping/distortion.

I think the OP refers to the Commercial Advertisement Loudness Mitigation Act, AKA the CALM act. But as the name suggests, I think it only has to do with commercials and not different sources.

By the way, if you watch westerns with realistic gunshot sound levels, I recommend hearing protection. :)
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I will say this on PC it worse one game is one volume level by defualt another is super quiet and another deafening loud, and volume leveling dont equalize it. The dynamic range isnt the problem the defualt volume is not same from channel to channel, commercial to commercial game to game.

To mean volume leveling is defeat volume level from source to source channel to channel, commercial to commercial, game to game.

Default volume level of 89.9 dB across the board fixes that tv providers can easily do this from there end and mandate commercial creators follow it, but it wont ever happen

Maybe volume leveling means somthing else to other people
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This only if anything seems to be worsening on DiSH. Ch. 215 is a prime example. It's typically much louder than other ch's, and today I notice it even contradicting itself, shifting drastically up and down inexplicably over periods of several minutes. Oddly, the quietest periods have come during commercials...
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Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Right on Time - Brandi Carlile
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Time Stand Still - Rush
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I Can't Help It (If I'm Still In Love With You) - B.J. Thomas
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Help Is On Its Way - Little River Band
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Little Band of Gold - Sonny James
Bobby
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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Bobby
WC, Canada vs Bosnia and Herzegovina, Friday 6-12, 12PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, USA vs Paraguay, Friday 6-12, 6PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
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WC, Qatar vs Switzerland, Saturday 6-13, 12PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Brazil vs Morocco, Saturday 6-13, 3PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Haiti vs Scotland, Saturday 6-13, 6PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Australia vs Türkiye, Saturday 6-13, 9PM PDT, Channel 540-02
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WC, Germany vs Curaçao, Sunday 6-14, 10AM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Netherlands vs Japan, Sunday 6-14, 1PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Côte d'Ivoire vs Equador, Sunday 6-14, 4PM PDT, Channel 540-02.
WC, Sweden vs Tunisia, Sunday 6-14, 7PM PDT, Channel 540-02.
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WC, Belgium vs Egypt, Monday 6-15, 12PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Saudi Arabia vs Uruguay, Monday 6-15, 3PM PDT, Channel 540-02.
WC, Iran vs New Zealand, Monday 6-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 540-02.
Bobby
WC, France vs Senegal, Tuesday 6-16, 12PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Iraq vs Norway, Tuesday 6-16, 3PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Argentina vs Algeria, Tuesday 6-16, 6PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Austria vs Jordan, Tuesda6 6-16, 9PM PDT, Channel 540-02.
Gary Toma
Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D9S, D16
@103W.... D10, D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​



See also

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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604 Pursuit HD is testing

Women's US Open Out, Men's US Open and World Cup in

The World Cup Bracket on 205-6 and 407-2 will be repurposing CINEHD 154
(There will be a mix on one of the 205s and 407-1)

The Vegas specific slate for KTNV is repurposing Dispute Slide 1 Test 9109
lordodogg
604 Pursuit HD is testing
Interesting. I remember that being HD-only for a bit a long time ago and then it was back to SD-only.
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Interesting. I remember that being HD-only for a bit a long time ago and then it was back to SD-only.
looking at the old maps, that was from March 2017 to June 2019.
lordodogg
Starz is apparently dropping all of the west coast feeds of their networks tomorrow. FiOS has already dropped most of the ones they carried and I imagine DirecTV would be affected with STZw on 526 and SENw on 536.
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seems to actually only be affecting their sister channels, not the main channels
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Starz, Starz Encore and Starz Encore Westerns are keeping their west coast feeds. The rest of the Starz, Starz Encore and Plex channels will only have East coast feeds
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
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Does cable charge box rent?
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Does cable charge box rent?
The cable company I was with years ago did charge $9.99 for a receiver.

RJ T.
From Illinois
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Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
I went to try to add the Heartland channel as dummy to see what it would do for me as I own my receiver and have DISH Outdoors and this is what mine shows. (Note however I had to take the 2nd receiver I told you I added the other day off because I was told you can only have 1 receiver when you have a one outlet on the Dish Playmaker and was having issues with the 2nd receiver and I didn't know that and that was done yesterday as well so I am back to one receiver.)

Let's upgrade your package.

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June 11, 2026 - July 11, 2026
You are changing your programming in the middle of the bill cycle. The bill shown below is your bill for next month including prorations and credits. Your following bill will return to the fixed rate. This bill will take effect from now until July 11, 2026.
Monthly Services
$86.99

Flex Pack
$72.99
Local Channels
$14.00
Add-Ons
$68.98

National Action Pack
$12.00
Regional Action Pack
$12.00
News Pack
$10.00
Paramount+ with Showtime
$10.00
Drama and Classics Pack
$6.00
Heartland Pack
$6.00
Starz Encore Movies
$6.00
On DISH Magazine
$4.99
Starz 2 Mo ($11)
$1.99
Prorated Charges
$7.93

Heartland Pack Jun 11 - Jul 20
$7.93
Order Total
$7.93

Prorated Total
$7.93
Due Today
$7.93

Transition Bill Total
$156.10
Proposed Changes

Your monthly bill will increase by $6.00 per month
Monthly Services
$86.99
Add-Ons
$68.98
FCC Regulatory Surcharge
$0.13
Taxes & Surcharges
$0.00

Monthly Total
$156.10
Prorated Total
$7.93
Order Total
$7.93

Due Today
$7.93

Sounds like an issue with DISH Billing

RJ T.
From Illinois

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zippyfrog
I asked again, and the rep I talked to said it is a glitch and that "Access for TV" shouldn't be there - the rep pulled up my future month bills and that charge isn't on it. So I am not going to worry about it right now, but it will be interesting to see when the price changes happen later this year. Will this line item show up? The fact that it is a specific item that is different from anything makes me think it is more than a glitch. But we shall see.
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I asked again, and the rep I talked to said it is a glitch and that "Access for TV" shouldn't be there - the rep pulled up my future month bills and that charge isn't on it. So I am not going to worry about it right now, but it will be interesting to see when the price changes happen later this year. Will this line item show up? The fact that it is a specific item that is different from anything makes me think it is more than a glitch. But we shall see.
I am hoping they don't add this down the road. Things are expensive the way it is now. Even DIRECTV allows the first receiver free. This would go against DISH and DISH is already loosing subscribers I wouldn't think they would do these kind of tricks but you never know. Always look at your bills for unknow charges. I heard horror stories of people getting charged for things they didn't know were there.

RJ T.
From Illinois
zippyfrog
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
· posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone
I feel like this was discussed in another thread, but I can't find it. I have T-Mobile and my last iPhone upgrade was in 2020. I want to get a new iPhone, but what is the best way to go about doing it? Should I order the iPhone from T-Mobile directly, or should I buy from the Apple Store? I feel like there are pros/cons to each option.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
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HipKat
Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
First off, great TV. I'm torn between the 77C5 or the 77G5.
It sounds like the handshake between the Receiver and the TV is having a problem. Are you using the free cable that came with the Joey or a higher speed HDMI cable?? That's the f irst place I'd look
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Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
First off, The analog to digital switch, also known as the digital television transition, is the process of converting older analog television broadcasting technology to digital broadcasting. It's used through coaxial cable for the an antenna during the mandatory switch from Analog to Digital on June 12, 2009. You either had to get a converter for your analog (Tube TV) or use a converter box that has the analog or digital tuner or an HDTV which your is and has the tuner built in. Your TV is HD and using an HDMI Cable and nothing is connected by coaxial cable so this wouldn't apply.

In my theory it probably means a new TV. I had a TV go out on my switching between the Smart Screen from the HDMI inputs before because they went faulty. Sometimes electrical surges can cause this. If you have an older home or rent an older home or apartment sometimes the electrical outlets are not grounded and these days HDTV's need a ground which can cause them to malfunction and go bad quicker. Never plug it directly in an outlet. It will damage the TV.

Hope I could be of some assistance.

RJ T.
From Illinois
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· posted in The Sports Section
Mexico takes on South Africa to open the World Cup Final (it is called the Final... this just isn't the World Cup Final... Final). The tournament has been plagued with rife malfeasance as FIFA has been committing all sorts of fraud with the ticket sales. Hotel rooms have gone unfilled as the prices to attend a game and stay somewhere are through the roof. I swear this is impacting Mansfield, OH hotel rates which are higher than average for the Indycar race. And there is a broadening VAR presence which will ruin things as nothing worse now when scoring a goal and knowing you can't quite celebrate yet as they check to see if a player was offside by a pixel a half-hour ago.

The Group Stage used to mean something, but now 32 of the 48... yeah, 48 teams are going to the Knockout Round. Getting into the Knockout Round used to be a big deal, even for the US. But now... if you don't lose all of your group stage games, you get to move on. Oi! And this is avoiding all the political stuff!

I have never been so unexcited for a World Cup before. Every game used to matter. But FIFA be darned if they don't try to squeeze out every dime they can out of the players, refs, and fans.
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