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skierrob

Last reply Feb 10, 2016 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Returning customer

It's been a few years but thinking of returning back to Dish -- I'm pretty impressed with the Hopper 3 even compared to my Tivo.

From what I'm seeing, though, the only cost effective way to come back is with the Top 120+ three year deal which is $49.99 plus another $15 for the Hopper 3.

I don't watch any sports, and would be fine if I had my old Dish America package back. But the salesperson on the phone said you can't get that package and I see no mention of it on the website.

Does Dish not have a high-def entry level package that doesn't include much in the way of sports anymore?

FYI -- I did look at the "first year savings" offers, and even the Top 120 package costs more that way than the Top 120+ package does on the three year offer.

Robert

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bobvick

Feb 8, 2016

I did a Google search for "Dish America package" and this comes up https://www.mydish.com/upgrades/english-packages/dish-america. I am not sure if you have to be grandfathered into it or not. Appears it is still around. Oh yeah, and BTW, the Hopper 3 is great. I have a TiVo Roamio that I use for OTA, and I like it, but I like the Hopper 3 better, of course I had a Hopper w/ Sling, 722, and 922 as well, so I was used to Dish equipment, but the Hopper 3 is the best I've used yet. It's so fast, it needs a governor

And the 16 tuners are awesome, can't find enough to record.

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skierrob

Feb 8, 2016

bobvick said:
I did a Google search for "Dish America package" and this comes up https://www.mydish.com/upgrades/english-packages/dish-america. I am not sure if you have to be grandfathered into it or not. Appears it is still around. Oh yeah, and BTW, the Hopper 3 is great. I have a TiVo Roamio that I use for OTA, and I like it, but I like the Hopper 3 better, of course I had a Hopper w/ Sling, 722, and 922 as well, so I was used to Dish equipment, but the Hopper 3 is the best I've used yet. It's so fast, it needs a governor And the 16 tuners are awesome, can't find enough to record.

Looks like they still offer the package, but price it to be just as expensive as the Top 120+ for a new customer as they don't have any "promotional" offers for it. So if you really want it, you could get it -- but they won't market it to a new customer at a promotional rate for the first year or as a three year price lock.

bobvick

Feb 8, 2016

skierrob said:
Looks like they still offer the package, but price it to be just as expensive as the Top 120+ for a new customer as they don't have any "promotional" offers for it. So if you really want it, you could get it -- but they won't market it to a new customer at a promotional rate for the first year or as a three year price lock.

Promotional offer is probably just good for the "America's Top" programming packages. The 3 year guarantee is still a good deal, even with the $15 DVR fee for the Hopper 3. If you do decide to go with Dish, I'd be glad to give you a referral, and you could save another $5 per month for 10 months, and I'll get the same. Just send me a PM if you do decide to come back, and both of us can save a little more that way. Good luck what ever you choose.

skierrob

Feb 8, 2016

bobvick said:
Promotional offer is probably just good for the "America's Top" programming packages. The 3 year guarantee is still a good deal, even with the $15 DVR fee for the Hopper 3. If you do decide to go with Dish, I'd be glad to give you a referral, and you could save another $5 per month for 10 months, and I'll get the same. Just send me a PM if you do decide to come back, and both of us can save a little more that way. Good luck what ever you choose.

Thanks -- just have to decide if I want to commit to two years of Pay TV (I "cut the cord" several years ago and have just OTA with a Tivo Premiere lifetime subscription and Netflix right now). There are some shows I'd like to be able to watch on Discovery, Travel Channel, etc. but I'm now having to decide if it's worth $65 a month. I can get a lot of the stuff on iTunes that isn't available via Netflix / Hulu / Amazon, but it's usually $40 a season for a single TV program that way.

darrengs

Feb 8, 2016

skierrob said:
Thanks -- just have to decide if I want to commit to two years of Pay TV (I "cut the cord" several years ago and have just OTA with a Tivo Premiere lifetime subscription and Netflix right now). There are some shows I'd like to be able to watch on Discovery, Travel Channel, etc. but I'm now having to decide if it's worth $65 a month. I can get a lot of the stuff on iTunes that isn't available via Netflix / Hulu / Amazon, but it's usually $40 a season for a single TV program that way.

I totally understand, it is always nice to not be on a contract, if I could get OTA I would be doing what your doing now.

Tampa8

Feb 9, 2016

skierrob said:
It's been a few years but thinking of returning back to Dish -- I'm pretty impressed with the Hopper 3 even compared to my Tivo.

From what I'm seeing, though, the only cost effective way to come back is with the Top 120+ three year deal which is $49.99 plus another $15 for the Hopper 3.

I don't watch any sports, and would be fine if I had my old Dish America package back. But the salesperson on the phone said you can't get that package and I see no mention of it on the website.

Does Dish not have a high-def entry level package that doesn't include much in the way of sports anymore?

FYI -- I did look at the "first year savings" offers, and even the Top 120 package costs more that way than the Top 120+ package does on the three year offer.

Robert

Have you checked their online only package SlingTV? Does that cover most of the programs you would watch?

To get the best answer about a Satellite subscription contact a DIRT member here. Top 120 (not +) is available for $34.99 a month for 12 months on a two year commitment with no price guarantee but that works out to the same (over two years) as getting Top 120+ with a price guarantee. You would save with the Top 120+ if you stay for the third guaranteed price year. You could ask them about Dish America also.

kenskibum

Feb 9, 2016

I have the Dish America package and it's currently $49.99. I've had it for years so I may be grandfathered.

skierrob

Feb 9, 2016

Tampa8 said:
Have you checked their online only package SlingTV? Does that cover most of the programs you would watch?

To get the best answer about a Satellite subscription contact a DIRT member here. Top 120 (not +) is available for $34.99 a month for 12 months on a two year commitment with no price guarantee but that works out to the same (over two years) as getting Top 120+ with a price guarantee. You would save with the Top 120+ if you stay for the third guaranteed price year. You could ask them about Dish America also.

If Sling TV had a true DVR option I'd get it in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, Live TV with some time shifting options at the whim of the broadcaster does not interest me nearly as much.

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Tampa8

Feb 10, 2016

skierrob said:
If Sling TV had a true DVR option I'd get it in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, Live TV with some time shifting options at the whim of the broadcaster does not interest me nearly as much.

Agree.

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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

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Monday at 1:25 PM

nelson61 said:
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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

Can't remember where or who I saw predict this.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

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Bruce

Tuesday at 10:17 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

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Scott Greczkowski

Tuesday at 10:22 AM

Bruce said:
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.

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Bruce

Tuesday at 11:30 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.

Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.

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Is Dish like Iran in one way...they both will totally collapse by end of week

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 12:16 PM

Other than the price, my experience with Boost is not that different than what I experienced with my years with Cricket. I will be curious to see what happens if SpaceX takes the reins.

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 2:54 AM

Bruce said:
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.

dish has new sats dtv does not

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renjy651

Today at 6:37 AM

slow_poke_pete said:
dish has new sats dtv does not

Hate to say this no one is ordering Satellite TV. Both DISH and Direct no new customers.
After 25 years with centurylink DSL 80 speed i changed to Xfinity 300 speed for $50 wow lightning fast for streaming. Still have DISH 27 years with them. Americas 250 package for $103. What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?
Still dish is easy to operate and change channels. What will Charlie Ergen do with new super satellites with loosing customers with satellites and boost?

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comfortably_numb

Today at 8:31 AM

renjy651 said:
What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?

NO.

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Bruce

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Last reply Today at 8:28 AM · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

Traditional/Streaming Live TV Providers Losses, 3rd Quarter 2026 Edition

Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.

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ncted

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Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?

brice52

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ncted said:
Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?

yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration

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(((Garyd)))

Oct 24, 2026

brice52 said:
yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration

The fiber coming in to the house looks like 300 ohm old TV wire I think that is the weak point.

Jimbo

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(((Garyd))) said:
The fiber coming in to the house looks like 300 ohm old TV wire I think that is the weak point.

The weak point would be the connection between the outdoor feed and the indoor feed.

Jimbo

Oct 24, 2026

brice52 said:
yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration

Copper lines are fine ... until it hits the AIR.

Bruce

Oct 25, 2026

dishstaller said:
Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.

They have been losing broadband subscribers for about 4 years now.

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brice52

Oct 25, 2026

(((Garyd))) said:
The fiber coming in to the house looks like 300 ohm old TV wire I think that is the weak point.

I agree, even it fails the isp will come and install another one

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You would believe both companies would of learned from what happened with their TV services, which was ignore that cord cutting was a thing, allowed competition ( streaming) to get a foothold in the industry.

Now, in today's world, there are more households in the United States without a paid live TV than those with.

Both companies charge too much, delayed upgrades, all because they believed no one would leave them, only game in town, competition started with the 5G services, than Fiber, enough said, Cord Cutting 2.0 is here.

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