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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in Cable Television and Fiber Providers

Now you can enjoy your Satellite System from anywhere in the world as long at you have a PC running Windows Xp or Windows 2000 and with an exciting new hardware device called the Slingbox from Sling Media.

The folks from Sling contacted me a few months ago after I met with them at CES asking me if I would like to review their upcoming Sling Box, I said yes and had some good contact with them and Sling Media Co Founder Jason Krikorian who is believe it or not an active SatelliteGuys user.:D

I was very interested in the product as because over the past few months I have been using ORB.COM which is a free service to watch satellite tv from my office. Whole Orb has been good it is not reliable, and it's a 50 - 50 if it works or not when I want it to work. With the Slingbox I no longer need to dedicate my PC as an encoder for Orb. The Slingbox is its own encoder and server. After it is setup you do not even need a PC hooked up locally to work.

Unfortunately the product was released and I did not receive a unit to test from Sling Media, but all that changed tonight when I walked into Best Buy and there they were loading them on to the shelf two new Sling Boxes!

Since my wife is away for a few days and because I REALLY wanted to test this item out I took out my credit card and paid the $249 for the unit.

I got it home and ripped open the cleverly packaged unit. The first thing I took out was the fold out instruction sheet (the only real printed instructions that come with the unit)
I quickly glanced over the instructions then looked at the accessory box that came with the unit. In it was packed the Slingbox, two audio video cables, a wall wart (Power adapter), an S Video Cable, an IR control cable, Ethernet cable, coax cable and Installation CD ROM.

To test the unit our quickly I hooked it up to my cable tv connection via the COAX input on the Slingbox.
The next thing I did was reach for the CD ROM which was closed with a sticker reading "HEY LOOK, AN UPDATE! - Skip this CD and download the latest software from www.slingmedia.com/support" so I went to the website and there was no place on the screen telling you where you can download the installation software. After looking around for 10 minutes I find a link on the top marked downloads, I click it and find the Sling Player, which is not what I am looking for I am looking for the Installation software. So I give up at the website and pop the CD in.

My screen turns black as the Installation CD loads.
And it stays black.

I needed to reboot my computer. When it is done rebooting I decide to go explore the CD. When I get into the DISK1 directory I run the setup program the setup now begins. And soon it is done there is a new icon on my desktop marked Start Sling Player.

I click on the Sling Player ICON and select the icon marked that this way my first time using the Slingbox. When I do this it asks me if I want to check for an update, I select yet and it opens a website, at the website it gives me a zip file to download. After it is done downloading I must unzip it then go to the directory and run the update.

The check for update screen from the Sling Player is still up in the background and I am scolded by the update program for not closing it (it never told me to close it) so I closed it and then the update began.

After the update I was looking again at my desktop, no further instructions on what to do, so again I went into the Sling Player and once again clicked this was my first time setting up the Slingbox. When I clicked this I was asked if I wanted to check for an update, this time I clicked on the next button.
The setup ran and within a few seconds it found the Slingbox on my network and I had video and sound playing in the setup window. (COOL!) There was no setup necessary at all to get to this point, now I went from being confused to being

impressed. It then asked me if I was hooked up to an antenna or cable tv. I told it I had cable tv and the Slingbox scanned for cable channels. This was the fastest channel scan I have ever seen just taking a few seconds!

I needed to set a few options including passwords for watching my Slingbox, password for administrating my Slingbox and gave the Slingbox permission to open the necessary ports on my router (which it did!)
After it was done I was now watching TV from the Slingbox! I had a remote control on the screen and was able to flip through the channels. The video looked great!

While watching Cable TV is cool I want my Slingbox to do more, and at this point I am not sure it is possible. I would love to not only be able to watch cable TV but I would also like to be able to watch my satellite system. I have contacted Slingbox and hopefully this is something they can do in the future via a software upgrade.
Today I went to my office and downloaded the Sling Player software from the Sling Media Website, installed it and input my Slingbox Finder ID. Within second I was watching cable TV from my house at my office.
The picture was good although the audio was low so I had to crank up my speakers. The first images I saw however were that of another bomb attack in England.

Changing channels was easy by using the on screen remote, or I could type in the channel number I wanted to go to. Within about 2 seconds the channel changed on my screen.

My next step was to try watching my Dish Network 942 from remote. To do this I needed to reconfigure my settings, this meant switching from Cable TV to the RCA inputs.

The instructions on how to set things up were clearly spelled out on the screen, that was until we got to setting up the remote codes.

You selected what kind of Satellite Receiver you had by brand, then there was a listing of all the codes available for that brand of receiver. In my case there were only four selections.

I tried them all and none of them worked.

I then went to the Sling support site and took a look at their compatable equipment list, there it was spelled out better which code was meant for which remote and also which remote address that code used.

I tried again still not working.

Then I remembered a neat trick which I hope you guys remember as well. I wanted to see if the IR blasters were actually sending IR. To test this out I grabbed my cell phone and turned on its camera because IR is actually beams of light you can see the blasts of lights with almost any video camera. I then pressed the test button in the software while I watched the camera, and nope nothing. I took the Slingbox and unplugged the IR blaster then pluged it back in again, once again pressed the test button while watching the screan on my camera phone, and now I saw it light up.

I placed the two IR blasters on my 942 and went to the next step which was to change channels, that worked flawlessly.

When it was all done I now had a new remote control on my screen which gave me all the controls found on my 942.

I was able to fully control the 942, although one thing I need to get use to is scrolling through the menus as there are a few issues I ran into. When you press something on the remote it can take 5 seconds before you see it happen on the screen, so sometimes I overshot the button I wanted to click on. Another thing I found that I got to learn not to do, is I was using my mouse to click on the buttons on the screen, For example I had the 942 guide up and instead of selecting the show using the remote I tried clicking on the show name on the TV screen. In this day of point and click you forget that what you see ou can't really click on it.

With my 942 I am now able to enjoy HD channels such as VOOM HD news in SD over the Internet. Because I run a site like SatelliteGuys the Slingbox will come very handy, no when someone writes that there is an issue with a channel I can now quickly check it on my Slingbox and report back if the problem is a system wide problem or a local receiver problem.

I spent last night watching a few shows on my laptop as my wife watched CSI. I am loving my slingbox more and more every day.

I must admit I like the Slingbox, however there are a few drawbacks which may keep this amazing product out of most peoples hands.

1) It only runs on Windows XP and Windows 2000. Those on UNIX and Macintosh computers can not use it
2) You need to load the player on all the computers you want to watch TV on. You should not need to load any software, a lot of folks like me travel and go to Internet Cafes and friend's house, it would be much better to login to a website download a java applet and watch TV. (Much like GotoMyPC)
3) You can't switch inputs from cable TV to your satellite system (or DVD player or whatever you hook to the AV inputs)
4) Non standard hookup on the AV Jacks, I would rather see them have real RCA jacks for the AV Inputs and outputs on the unit, this version requires special cables to hook it up to your equipment.
5) No ability to save the stream your watching to your hard drive. There are some things I see on TV that I would love to save, it would be great to click RECORD and have it save the file to the hard drive of the computer I am using.
6) No timers, you can't tell it your favorite shows and have them tuned automatically

I would also love to see the Sling Media folks release additional players, I would LOVE to see a PDA version that runs on my Palm Trio 650, and in fact I would pay extra for that software.

Another limit I don't like is it only lets you have 1 person connect at a time, if someone else tries connecting they get an error message. While I understand that they are trying to avoid lawsuits and to avoid pissing off the television industry, it would be nice if my wife could watch the same thing I am watching down stairs on my laptop. They should increase the limit to 2 connections.

With those things aside this is one cool toy and I have a feeling it's going to get better as time goes on. The Slingbox folks are very active at AVS and are listing to comments being made about their product. I feel this is one piece of consumer electronics that will be shaped around the comments of the consumers.

If you ever wanted to watch TV at your office, or on the road, now you can with the SlingBox from Sling Media.
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hdtvtechno
It sucks that it doesnt do HD, or have any HD inputs, like Component or HDMI, or DVi :(
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That'd be pretty unrealistic to have HD inputs. Would take a much more powerful encoder and you'd need a lot more upstream bandwidth than most home connections have available. It'd be fine if you were using it on a home network internally for that purpose but watching HD outside your home network would not be realistic.
Stargazer
The bandwidth is increasing dramatically lately it seems so bandwidth may not be an issue in the future when HD is more mainstream.
Pepper
I just got one of these for Christmas (yay!) and promptly discovered that it will work with an old Linksys WAP11 configured as an "access point client" to my WRT54G. Also it does a great job of controlling my 522 except for a few missing buttons on the remote (menu, recall, pip, swap, position, * and #). But I've only had it running for about an hour so maybe I haven't learned everything there is to know yet :)
Rlanham
I hooked up mine today. Great invention, and very easy setup. get 1500kbs over ethernet. I have a 1200 up and down connection, so I don't see much degradation in signal outside of my home network either. Will I use it everyday? No, but since there are no monthly fees, it will come in handy at work when a big game or event is on, when I have to be at work.
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a2cgQidHQJI
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Bobby
Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a2cgQidHQJI

That brought tears to my eyes.
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dishstaller
That brought tears to my eyes.
Really...REALLY hate to do this to you Bobby, but....


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsOo3jzkhYA&pp=ygUed29tYW4gaGVhcnMgZm9yIHRoZSBmaXJzdCB0aW1l
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dishstaller
Okay....if you think you can take it....this one brought tears to my eyes when I first saw it and did again just now.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/i5UCDwHMatg?feature=share
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dishstaller
This came up in my suggestions probably because of the video I posted. I had NO idea exactly what being color blind actually was. Now I understand why that man was so blown away with seeing the trees......a lot of color blind people see green as brown, so grass, trees, etc all look brown.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i18_RngKJDQ
Juan
Its a shame nobody told him orange was blue and red was purple etc etc etc
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Often people who have organic vision or hearing activated as adults after never having had it cannot practically utilize it because their brains never developed the massive neural network needed to make sense of any of it.
Bruce
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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ncted
All my parents had to do to get a discount on Spectrum Internet is say the words "Verizon Home Internet," and they cut the price by $30/month.
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NYDutch
All my parents had to do to get a discount on Spectrum Internet is say the words "Verizon Home Internet," and they cut the price by $30/month.
I don't think they'll go below the current $30 price since it's part of a deal they have with the non- profit that owns the apartment building.
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ncted
I don't think they'll go below the current $30 price since it's part of a deal they have with the non- profit that owns the apartment building.
Yeah, I was just saying Spectrum suddenly wants to keep what customers they can.
Tom Speer
Optimum, which bought up our previous cable company, Suddenlink (originally COX), replac ed all of their coax disdribution with Fiber several years ago. They ran new fiber links to the house, but installed RFOG (RF over glass) devices on the outside of the house, which makes the house coax system look like a cable system. They used DOCSIS modems and of course we had the same assymetric bandwidth of cable internet. When I called them a couple years ago, and said I had installed a connection to the local Fiber provideer, MetroNet, They panicked and offered me the 300 MBit "Fiber powered" cable service for $20 per month. They were bleeding customers. I cancelled my Metronet and went with the $20 deal for a year, even though I didn't like the old cable technology.

Then T-moble Fiber struck a deal with Metronet Fiber where T-mobile would take over the marketing, billing and customer relations for residential Customers. They offered a "Founders Deal" for 2 Gigabit service, symmetric speeds, for $70 per month for new customers. That included all taxes and fees and was guaranteed for 10 years. I couldn't resist. That deal is no longer offered, but I am set for 9 more years.

Now the successor to the old local telephone company, Brightspeed has also installed a modern Fiber system in the neighborhood, but won't be getting my business. But their Fiber technology is also superior to Optimums cable based system.

With Fiber competition, the cable companies are eventually doomed.
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Foxbat
Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
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Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
similar situation. almost every neighborhood around me has fiber, but our 3 block area. I called AT&T and was like, how hard is it to bring fiber over about 200 feet (I am closest to the folks with fiber and can see it on the poles from my front door); crickets and very frustrating.
b4pjoe
Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
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harshness
Given that Tubi is one of the hottest FAST services out there, I don't expect it to go anywhere. Building up intolerance for ads takes a while, and as long as the advertisers are willing to foot the bill, why not?
Neutron
Another reason I'm glad we are swapping or Rokus out for Apple TVs. I was already planning on ditching the Rokus earlier this year and had been waiting on Apple to announce the new one last month. Our Rokus have had issues the last year or so with freezing video and reboots, and one with an HDCP issue randomly.
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dishstaller
Building up intolerance for ads takes a while, and as long as the advertisers are willing to foot the bill, why not?
That is what I have to explain to customers all the time. They want it free with no ads :facepalm
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TRG
Another reason I'm glad we are swapping or Rokus out for Apple TVs. I was already planning on ditching the Rokus earlier this year and had been waiting on Apple to announce the new one last month. Our Rokus have had issues the last year or so with freezing video and reboots, and one with an HDCP issue randomly.
Hmmm... I don't have any of those problems with my Roku devices. I have 3 of them.
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navychop
I suspect Fox will make me consider 2-3 more Apple TV STB purchases.
Jimbo
Hmmm... I don't have any of those problems with my Roku devices. I have 3 of them.
I have the Roku's, 2 or 3, I just rarely use them ... I prefer the Google/Android Sony set up.

People tell me that the Apps on the TV will end thier usefulness as they age ... They are doing ok for me so far ... I also have the TV take the App Updates whenever possible ... then again, I don't know how often App updates come to it.

So, so far, I'm doing ok, but if they start to get sluggish, I'll eventually change to a Roku ... I don't want to, but eventually ... (Or buy another new TV :eeek:shh:clapping:biggrin
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I suspect Fox will make me consider 2-3 more Apple TV STB purchases.
As long as my Roku Ultra works I will use it. I use it for all of my streaming apps except for Prime. I read that Prime works best with Android TV's.
navychop
Hmmm. Not watching much Prime, but it would be on our Apple TV STB.

You know of any drawbacks using Ultra and Prime?
osu1991
Hmmm. Not watching much Prime, but it would be on our Apple TV STB.

You know of any drawbacks using Ultra and Prime?
Prime seems to have a problem passing the DV/HDR metadata to Roku and Apple devices, but no problem with their Fire devices.
Juan
That is what I have to explain to customers all the time. They want it free with no ads :facepalm
The ads are boring and repetitive...same ad over and over...bring back 1970s ads..might not be as big an issue
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Really Wanna Know You - Gary Wright
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Don't WANNA KNOW-Maroon 5
harshness
I Want to Know What Love Is - Foreigner
Bobby
Oh What A Night For Dancing - Barry White
sdfntx
It's a Good Night for Singing - Jerry Jeff Walker
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby
Regular$5.459​
Premium$5.899​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
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dishstaller
Billboard along I-10 had reg at $3.81 and diesel at $5.54
Bobby
Regular$5.399​
Premium$5.899​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
osu1991
$3.55
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$3.45 in Jane, MO.
K
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum
https://www.directv.com/insider/mysports-changes-the-game/
https://streamtv.directv.com/mysports/ (You might have to logout or open a private window to see the details)
As of now this is only available for streaming customers in select markets. Existing streaming customers can switch to it for $69.99, but they are not eligible for the $20 off for 3 months discount. More genre-specific packages will launch during the first half of the year.


At launch, MySports includes 40 sports and broadcast channels and is initially available in 24 metro areas, including New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Philadelphia, San Francisco Bay Area, and others. Click here for more information and the list of initial launch markets. The availability of MySports will expand into additional markets as DIRECTV adds more local stations to the package.

The streamlined MySports package includes national and local channels in select markets, as well as live news channels.

National sports channels immediately available through MySports include ACC Network, Big Ten Network, DIRECTV 4K Live, DIRECTV 4K Live 2, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNews, ESPNU, Fox Sports 1, Fox Sports 2, Golf Channel, MLB Network, NBA TV, NFL Network, NHL Network, SEC Network, TBS, TNT, TruTV and USA Network. Local channels will initially include any stations owned and operated by ABC, FOX, and NBC, with additional stations coming online soon.

Additional networks, local stations and ESPN+, will be included in MySports at no extra cost in the near future.

Consumers who sign up online for the contract-free package before Feb. 28, 2025, can receive MySports for $49.99 monthly for the first three months, a $20 monthly savings. After the free trial, it auto-renews monthly, and consumers can cancel anytime.
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K
They recently split the news channels off of MySports, so CNBC, CNN, FBN, FNC and MSNOW are no longer part of it.

MySports was decreased to $64.99, and a new "MySports+MyNews Duo" pack is $79.99, which will also give you Bloomberg, CNBC World, CNNI, the C-SPANs, i24 and Newsmax.

Tennis Channel also joined MySports at some point over the past year.
C
They recently split the news channels off of MySports, so CNBC, CNN, FBN, FNC and MSNOW are no longer part of it.

MySports was decreased to $64.99, and a new "MySports+MyNews Duo" pack is $79.99, which will also give you Bloomberg, CNBC World, CNNI, the C-SPANs, i24 and Newsmax.

Tennis Channel also joined MySports at some point over the past year.
AMC+ now included in MyEntertainment Pack. I guess we know why the $8 price increase.
K
Here's the Insider article. Shudder is now part of MyCinema and Fanatiz1 was added to the Spanish packages last Friday. PX Sports was also added a few weeks ago.

It's not just AMC+ driving the price increases on the genre packs, the rest of the AMC Networks (AMC, WE, IFC, Sundance, BBC America), along with Paramount/CBS, Hallmark, Weigel and others joined since they debuted last year.
K
MySports now has some CW affiliates, and MyNews now has some CW affiliates and the MyNetworkTV O&Os.

At quick check, it looks like the CBS and Sinclair owned CW affiliates are missing.
C
MySports now has some CW affiliates, and MyNews now has some CW affiliates and the MyNetworkTV O&Os.

At quick check, it looks like the CBS and Sinclair owned CW affiliates are missing.
No Hearst owned CW in Orlando
osu1991
Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.


:eek


It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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osu1991

The Cybertruck was supposed to make the F-150 obsolete. It wasn't supposed to be boring, like a Ford or a Chevy. It was supposed to be "more truck than truck." It turns out, people just wanted trucks that were trucks, and CEO Elon Musk announced on X earlier this morning is that the Cybertruck is dying.


Ending production in middle of next year at gigatexas for cybercab production.
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dishstaller
IF they had made the cyber truck more like a conventional truck, more would have bought it. There is a REASON trucks all have a very similar layout....it's what people want AND it serves the purposes those of us who have a truck needs.
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harshness
There is a REASON trucks all have a very similar layout....it's what people want AND it serves the purposes those of us who have a truck needs.
As it is, most consumers buy trucks as comfortable transportation rather than commercial utility. The Cybertruck approach to that goal was way out in left field. It turned out to be more of an austere sedan with awful daily-driver attributes (visibility, parking). The expectations regarding truck durability were dashed early on.
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