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ejb1980
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AM21 question (coconut?)

I know a lot about the AM21. With the Nexstar stations finally adding subchannels, I am going to have 4 new locals "soon". (See the post in the OTA section for more about that)... WVNY 22-1 ABC and WFFF 44-1 FOX Burlington VT are each adding 2 subchannels. Each of those stations used to have a -2 that was in the AM21, so I am assuming that they will show up again. They eliminated their SD simulcast on their -2's not long after I moved back here, so I know the -2's were in there at one point, so Escape and Bounce should be ok..

To add 22-3 and 44-3, the Seattle market as a secondary will get those to show up, but the guide data will be wrong. I don't think I can get Laff on 22-3 and Grit on 44-3, but I thought I would check to see if anyone, like coconut, can see something that I missed. Thanks.
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To clarify something from earlier and the above post: It is possible that the RF13 XX-3 data that the AM21 is using to match my MeTV from TX will block the ability to match Laff 22-3 because the RF13 XX-3 that it's looking for is already used. I would rather have MeTV so, we'll have to wait and see. Wouldn't it be great if the database didn't have IND labeled for most of the subchannels?
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ejb1980 said:
To clarify something from earlier and the above post: It is possible that the RF13 XX-3 data that the AM21 is using to match my MeTV from TX will block the ability to match Laff 22-3 because the RF13 XX-3 that it's looking for is already used. I would rather have MeTV so, we'll have to wait and see. Wouldn't it be great if the database didn't have IND labeled for most of the subchannels?
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What I would do is run Weslaco as a secondary zip before Houston and see what you have. If you don't have LAFF on 22.3 RF13 after this I would try Mobile AL and then Houston. With Mobiles 5.3 having a different RF channel it might give you 22.3 RF13 LAFF. It's your choice as to how you want to structure your channels and which zip (Weslaco or Mobile) you use to get METV on 5.3 with the correct guide.
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What I would do is run Weslaco as a secondary zip before Houston and see what you have. If you don't have LAFF on 22.3 RF13 after this I would try Mobile AL and then Houston. With Mobiles 5.3 having a different RF channel it might give you 22.3 RF13 LAFF. It's your choice as to how you want to structure your channels and which zip (Weslaco or Mobile) you use to get METV on 5.3 with the correct guide.
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The stations did not launch on the channels that Rabbitears speculated. 22-2 is Laff and WVNYDT2 is still in the AM21, but still shows the ABC22 relay (and ABC logo) in the guide data. I expect that will change soon. Grit is 22-3. Do you know of a Grit station on 22-3 or RF13? I think Tucson, AZ would work, but I trust your opinion more than mine! I should have waited until the subchannels launched but I got antsy.

Looks like Bounce and Escape will end up on WFFF. I will wait and see which one goes where.
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Does anybody know what ZIP codes I can use for the Springfield Missouri for 10.3 27.2 27.3 so I can receive those channels on my am21n 10.2 I found because that I can use the San Diego affiliate and get the correct Channel info
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Stephen Henson said:
Does anybody know what ZIP codes I can use for the Springfield Missouri for 10.3 27.2 27.3 so I can receive those channels on my am21n 10.2 I found because that I can use the San Diego affiliate and get the correct Channel info
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If you run Roanoke VA (24011) it will give you the BOUNCE guide on 27.2. Then run Columbia SC (29201) to get the correct GRIT guide on 10.3 and 27.3. Then here's a bonus for Springfield. If you run Miami FL (33122) it should give you ANTENNA TV on 33.3 in Springfield, with the correct ANTENNA TV guide. Miami's 39.3 RF19 WSFL runs ANTENNA TV on that channel and it should be a match in Springfield for you. If you already ran Columbia, running Roanoke wont give you the 27.2 channel from Roanoke as you would have already established a 27.2 channel by running Columbia. But Miami should work for 33.3 for you.
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coconut10 said:
If you run Roanoke VA (24011) it will give you the BOUNCE guide on 27.2. Then run Columbia SC (29201) to get the correct GRIT guide on 10.3 and 27.3. Then here's a bonus for Springfield. If you run Miami FL (33122) it should give you ANTENNA TV on 33.3 in Springfield, with the correct ANTENNA TV guide. Miami's 39.3 RF19 WSFL runs ANTENNA TV on that channel and it should be a match in Springfield for you. If you already ran Columbia, running Roanoke wont give you the 27.2 channel from Roanoke as you would have already established a 27.2 channel by running Columbia. But Miami should work for 33.3 for you.
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You catch 'em all! Thank you for all the time you put in finding zip codes
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The stations did not launch on the channels that Rabbitears speculated. 22-2 is Laff and WVNYDT2 is still in the AM21, but still shows the ABC22 relay (and ABC logo) in the guide data. I expect that will change soon. Grit is 22-3. Do you know of a Grit station on 22-3 or RF13? I think Tucson, AZ would work, but I trust your opinion more than mine! I should have waited until the subchannels launched but I got antsy.

Looks like Bounce and Escape will end up on WFFF. I will wait and see which one goes where.
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I can't find a match for a .3 RF13 match to get GRIT on 22.3 RF13 for you. There are about 3-4 channels that carry GRIT on .3 RF13, but none of them are in the database.
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I can't find a match for a .3 RF13 match to get GRIT on 22.3 RF13 for you. There are about 3-4 channels that carry GRIT on .3 RF13, but none of them are in the database.
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I saw that, too. That's why I chose WSBT, so the guide is basically blank, just "weather" all the time. I would rather have a single word that is wrong than half hour blocks of wrongness. I am hoping that once all the channels are live that Tribune will fix the incorrect data for WVNY 22-2. They show 22-2 and 44-2 as SD duplicates of the -1, so I am guessing that's why we are still seeing the ABC SD duplicate guide data. At least it's there in the AM21, which is rare for "new" subchannels.

If Bounce launches on WFFF 44-2, I will have correct data since that is another channel that used to be there on the AM21, then they shut it off... I don't see an option to get Escape on 44-3.
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You know, DirecTV needs to get their s**t together and better support the AM21 or older receivers with off-air antenna connections. We shouldn't have to "fool" the receivers with different zip codes to get some of the sub channels of the locals. The argument is well, use your TV and an antenna to get them, well that's BS. It maybe a little more work for the installers or customers to setup, but some of those diginets are pretty damn good and having the ability to DVR them along with the satellite programming is a plus. Dish seems to have no problem with people who want OTA for their compatible receiver/DVR, they just have to buy a USB stick for that and can be DVR'd and most have an EPG. I along with other DirecTV subs had to buy an AM21, so what's the difference?. Comcast up here carries all of the local stations sub channels with EPG and DVR capability. It's absolutely ridiculous to purchase an AM21 (if you can get one cheap since they are discontinued) and realize the database is incomplete. Sure their business model is to bring viewers pay satellite programming but how about going that extra step by doing a better job integrating OTA in their receivers. Antenna TV & MeTV have some of those great old shows that I would like to record when not at home and really don't want to buy a Tivo Romeo and have another box to deal with. There are customers who don't want to cord cut and want the local stations diginets along with their MTV.
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ejb1980 said:
I saw that, too. That's why I chose WSBT, so the guide is basically blank, just "weather" all the time. I would rather have a single word that is wrong than half hour blocks of wrongness. I am hoping that once all the channels are live that Tribune will fix the incorrect data for WVNY 22-2. They don't even show that channel existing yet, so I am guessing that's why we are still seeing the ABC SD duplicate guide data. At least it's there, which is rare for "new" subchannels.
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I would check back every so often on Rabbitears.info. Because, there is quite a bit of movement of some of the diginets and sometimes one will fall inline and match for you. I don't think there is as much movement as previously, but it still doesn't hurt to check every so often.
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2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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NFL 2026-2027 Season

Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Troy Aikman seems to confirm he'll be leaving ESPN

Aikman says he looks forward to "where my next landing spot will be."
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Troy Aikman seems to confirm he'll be leaving ESPN

Aikman says he looks forward to "where my next landing spot will be."
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


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Browns lead the AFC North 🤣

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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
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Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties

Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.
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DISH Hopper 3 Software Version 713 Is Out

No idea what improvements might be involved.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.
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My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning.
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Had a customer call recently saying their remote was really acting up, some buttons no longer functioned. Told them to reboot the Hopper....problem fixed.
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"

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Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"
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Here's the one I need:
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Here's the one I need:
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Just ordered one....that's great.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
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They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
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Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
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It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
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I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
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Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
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Well if it is because of reliability that wouldnt shock me.I went through 5 or 6 of them in little over 2 years. I loved the Sling when it worked! Saved lots of money having it in the day. That was probably 15 or 16 years ago?
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I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
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I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
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I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
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You are thinking of the 921. The 922 was the first DVR with Sling functionality built in (that was eventually disabled along with the Sling Adapter for the 722s and the 1st Hopper because they relied on now-defunct Adobe Flash technology). With the bugginess described by others and the removal of its marquee feature (Sling) the 922 faded into obscurity once the Hopper 2 with built in Sling was released and they finally made the concept into a fully functional product.
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I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

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Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
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"You Can See Everything" Is 1 of the Century’s Best #shorts

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What's For Lunch?

We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Stargate SG-1 Discussion

Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
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The Tokra pt 1, I know pt 2 will be next...
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
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reubenray said:
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
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Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
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