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i have a TV in my kitchen which is adjacent to, but separate from, my family room (722 receiver) My wife and I are used to moving between the two rooms and having the same programming on the 2nd TV (using a powered HDMI splitter) and would like to be able to do that with a Hopper 3 and a Joey. The Joey would be nice at times as my wife might want to watch something different in the kitchen. Is there any way to mirror or feed what we are watching on the Hopper 3 in the family room to the set with the Joey?
I have HDMI and coax cables between the two rooms. BUT, it looks like I need the coax to feed the Joey and I only have one HDMI input on the small Samsung monitor in the kitchen, so I assume that would be used for the HDMI output from the Joey. I'm thinking I need a new monitor in the kitchen with more than one HDMI inputs.
Thanks for any ideas!
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Thanks, jsheridan.....an HDMI switch would probably be perfect. It would mirror the Hopper 3 from the family room 90% of the time. If my wife wants to watch something different in the kitchen, recorded or live, she can just switch to output from the Joey.
And Fuzzy, just so I'm clear, I'm thinking the switch would have 2 INPUTS (Hopper 3 and Joey) and 1 output (for the 1 HDMI TV). Not the other way around.
And KAB, I guess it's clear now what I want to do.
Caam1, maybe someone can answer this....I have a Red, White and Yellow RCA composite cable between the two rooms and DO have a component input on the 2nd TV in the kitchen. Can I use that composite cable to carry component output from the HOPPER 3 to the 2nd TV and get a reasonable HD picture? My cables go into the wall and then UP inside the wall and come out behind the 2 TV in the kitchen. I really don't want to run a new component cable between the two rooms! If I can use that cable, all I would have to do is change the input on the kitchen TV to watch the Joey.
Thanks for all the ideas. I just wanted to know my options before getting a Hopper 3.
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DishTech0607
I believe , as I have heard complaints from customers, and seen negatives , that HDMI splitters will negate the effect of certain Hopper 3 features .
I would use the RF modulator for a mirrored TV as I always do, not the best "oh my god HD" picture but it's mirrored , easy to do.
If I am the only one experiencing problems with HDMI splitters in my area, then let me know. Netflix issues, and VOD problems with the HD splitter .
RF modulators are cheap use composite// RCA and a Coax cable to TV 2 .
J
I believe , as I have heard complaints from customers, and seen negatives , that HDMI splitters will negate the effect of certain Hopper 3 features .
I would use the RF modulator for a mirrored TV as I always do, not the best "oh my god HD" picture but it's mirrored , easy to do.
If I am the only one experiencing problems with HDMI splitters in my area, then let me know. Netflix issues, and VOD problems with the HD splitter .
RF modulators are cheap use composite// RCA and a Coax cable to TV 2 .
No problem with splitters here. Netflix/VOD/etc all work fine.
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I use Sewell brand most of the time and some Monoprice too but always active splitters

Some of the DHCP licenses in "el cheapo" splitters are fake and will cause issues
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Good discussion, guys! OP here. I haven't gotten my H3 yet, but I have an active splitter I've been using with a 722k to a second TV. I think I'll see if it behaves with the H3. I'm planning on using a Joey on the 2nd TV and a switch so we can watch the H3 OR something different on the Joey. The main TV with the H3 is a family room TV adjacent to our kitchen TV, so we normally move from room to room and I don't want to have to change the channel on the Joey every time I go in the kitchen. But sometimes my wife wouldn't mind watching something different in the kitchen, so that's where the Joey comes in. I say all this, assuming there isn't a "dual mode" on the H3 like there is on my 722.
DishTech0607
There is PiP on the Hopper 3 though.
Thanks for all the tips and info on your HDMI splitter I sent a message to my FSM about your equipment working with the Swell splitter .
S
I have a Red, White and Yellow RCA composite cable between the two rooms and DO have a component input on the 2nd TV in the kitchen.

I don't know your specific TV, but most TVs will use one of the component inputs as a composite video input.
Usually the Y (green) input doubles as composite.
Some auto switch, others you have to manually select composite instead of component.


You can use the 3 cables you have for component video, but then you have no audio.
fuzzy
No problem with splitters here. Netflix/VOD/etc all work fine.
not if you want 4k
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Understanding the TPN Map

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The Election HQ Mix is now live on channels 71, 200, 202-1, 307-1, 349-1, 356-1 and 360-1, there's also a red button app on CNN, NewsNation, BBC News, NewsMax, CNBC, MS Now, FOX Business and FOX News.
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Any updates on CW Norfolk for sat

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DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Nov 04 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Nov 04 2026 vs Oct 28 2026:


No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:


2 Previously unused Transponders with current APG records::
Net 15 TID 12 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 13
Net 15 TID 17 Beam NAT + PR is a National Transponder on D15@103ca, TPN 18

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Push​
26​
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Slate​
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The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files
Reshuffle setup ?
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters
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Weekly Analysis for 11/04/2026:
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Prep for More TPN swaps

NewsMix -> ElectionHQ

MLBEI -> NBALP in the 740s

No sign of the additional CW affiliates that were added to stream a few weeks ago
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Over the past year I have been tracking the changes on Western Arc. The past 3 months have had a lot of changes that I posted in the other MPEG2 Western Arc shutdown thread. Now that 129 is (basically) out of commission, here is where Western Arc stands. This is just a national channel list, (no local channels) based off what I can see and what others have contributed. Thanks to everyone who has helped me come up with the locations of some of the channels – I would try and list all of you out, but I know I would forget someone! As has been suggested in other parts of the forum, it would be great to collect the spotbeam data for those who could contribute!

A couple of pieces of info:
  • Out of the 64 transponders between 110/119, there are currently 50 transponders that Dish is licensed to use. 22 are Spotbeams, 28 are ConUS transponders (14 transponders are licensed to DirecTV and Dish doesn't have access to them)
  • Those 28 ConUS transponders are divided as follows:
    • 10 are dedicated to National HD channels (ESPN, CNN, Disney Channel, etc). Dish is maxing out at 16 HD channels per transponder (note – in an earlier post I said there was one transponder with 17 HD channels, that was an error on my part. When I double checked my listings, one channel changed transponders). Before the transition, there was a maximum of 14 HD channels per transponder.
    • 1 transponder is dedicated to adult content
    • 2 are a mixture HD PPV Movies/4k channels
    • 3 are set aside for HD Sports channels that are only on for live games (NBA League Pass, the PAC 12 alternate channels, some PPV events, etc); 3 SD PPV Sports Channels are there as well.
    • 7 are for SD and/or music channels. Dish is maxing out at 26 SD channels per transponder thus far on the SD transponders.
    • 5 transponders on 110 I have no channels listed but Dish operates. (they are labeled as ConUS on my chart below) There are other things that could be on those transponders, like RV Distant Networks, internal testing channels, etc, that I can't see. They might be able to be used for additional content, but I am not sure exactly what is on those transponders.
There are two transponders that have lower than normal SD channels – 110, TP 21 and 119, TP 19. Previously those transponders contained the programming guides that get downloaded from the satellite when the receivers download EPG. I assume that is where the programming guides are still downloaded from, thus less channels there.

When I talk about number of channels on a transponder, all my numbers are unique channels – for example, channel 101 and 199 are the same channel mapped to two different numbers, but in terms of space, only takes up 1 channel worth of bandwidth on the transponder.

Finally, I have to give Dish a ton of credit. When it was 110/119/129, Dish had 82 transponders they were using – it took a lot to get it down to 50 transponders and figure out where all the pieces were going to go. What are the things they did to get there? Here are the things I saw:
  • During this migration from 129, Dish converted 7 ConUS transponders on 119 into Spotbeams – that is how they ended up fitting on all the HD locals that used to be on 129. (for those interested, TP 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13 are the ones that used to be ConUS on 119 that are now Spotbeam)
  • Removed almost all SD duplicate channels that are offered in HD
  • Converted remaining SD channels from MPEG2 to MPEG4
  • There are also 2 subtle things that changed from the HD channel perspective
    • At the beginning of the transition, Dish decreased the number of PPV Movie channels – prior to this transition the PPV channels HD PPV movies were 502-522; now they are 502-517.
    • At the beginning of April when MLB, NBA, and NHL regular seasons were all going on at the same time and this transition began, there were a ton of games "joined in progress" for the HD feeds. That wasn't common since the days before the full time HD RSN's. The reason for that was prior to the transition, Dish had 4 transponders set aside for HD Sports – 2 transponders was the bandwidth set aside from the HD RSN's before Dish dropped the RSN's, then 2 transponders were for alternate channels. Now we are down to 3 transponders for HD sports.
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zippyfrog
With the extra hour I had this morning, I updated the listings. Another month has passed, and nothing has moved off 110 to 119 for the national channels. I really thought those handful of transponders on 119 would have been populated with the national channels from 110, but no change.

Can someone who has a Hopper tell me if the 4k channels are still on 110 and if so, what transponder?
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With the extra hour I had this morning, I updated the listings. Another month has passed, and nothing has moved off 110 to 119 for the national channels. I really thought those handful of transponders on 119 would have been populated with the national channels from 110, but no change.

Can someone who has a Hopper tell me if the 4k channels are still on 110 and if so, what transponder?
They appear to be on 110, transponder 8.
zippyfrog
They appear to be on 110, transponder 8.
Thanks! I do have my listing correct then.
zippyfrog
Dish has officially removed all the locals from 119 and they are all on 110 now. TP 02, 04, 06, 08, 10 were all functioning as Spotbeams as of last week, but now they are ConUS.

This means all 21 transponders that Dish has access to at 119 are now ConUS.
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Dish has officially removed all the locals from 119 and they are all on 110 now.
Might be a silly question, but does this mean ALL 29 TP's on 110 are positively spot beams now?
zippyfrog
Might be a silly question, but does this mean ALL 29 TP's on 110 are positively spot beams now?
Nope - TP 1-13 are still ConUS on 110. Which is crazy...there are so many different spotbeams on the new 110 satellite compared to the older 110 or 119. Now, someone can correct me if I am wrong on this - but aren't there two satellites at 110 right now? If so, it looks like TP 1-13 are coming from the old satellite at 110 and 14 onward are spotbeams on the new satellite.
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Not sure saving $24/year is worth it unless you're a hardcore Philo user. I'll stick with monthly.

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Cheap, just the battery. Working or not.

Anybody got anything they'd just as soon get rid of? They look like this:

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navychop
I have such. Three various of various powers. And one aftermarket. Limited life, I believe.

Will look into it tomorrow.
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