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Claude Greiner
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Does anyone know if Directv goes after account stacking? And who would I contact to report it!

Just recently had a Directv commercial account disconnect on me and I know darn well the customer took a receiver from his home to his business to avoid paying for the commercial account.
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Does anyone know if Directv goes after account stacking? And who would I contact to report it!

Just recently had a Directv commercial account disconnect on me and I know darn well the customer took a receiver from his home to his business to avoid paying for the commercial account.
I think you answered your own question. Not trying to be a smartass. here.
The fact that Directv discoed your customer ( if I understand properly) for moving a residential receiver to a commercial location.
Quite frankly i think this is crap. This entire "commercial vs residential view with the different channel packages and different pricing is just plain dumb.
Who cares. Really? Do the cable and satcos really believe that people will go to a business just to sit there and watch tv instead of buying it for their home?
Does it really matter if 15 or more people are viewing a program on one tv?
Heck, for years, we used to get together at a friend's house to watch NFL every Sunday. We were all in the same point spread pool. Usually there were 5 to 10 guys there.
What is the difference between that and a small sports bar that seats 10 or 15 people? Nothing.
Anyway, that's an argument for another day.
hank123
As I recall, they pushed this really hard in the summer of 2012. I saw people that had several receivers in different homes on the same account.
I reported it to my sups and they told me not to worry about it.

hmmmm
Jimbo
As I recall, they pushed this really hard in the summer of 2012. I saw people that had several receivers in different homes on the same account.
I reported it to my sups and they told me not to worry about it.

hmmmm
Actually, people have recvrs in various places all the time and D* is fine with it ... one at home and one at the Cottage/Campground.
They say you can't watch one in both locations at the same time. (Personally, I think this is ridiculous as long as it's on YOUR account ...)
What they really are concerned about is setting one up at different Friends home on your account, which IS against the terms of service.

Most people that are up front with it usually have no issues, friends of mine have one at Home and one at the Cottage and inquired about it when they started and they said no problem.
Z
I think you answered your own question. Not trying to be a smartass. here.
The fact that Directv discoed your customer ( if I understand properly) for moving a residential receiver to a commercial location.
Quite frankly i think this is crap. This entire "commercial vs residential view with the different channel packages and different pricing is just plain dumb.
Who cares. Really? Do the cable and satcos really believe that people will go to a business just to sit there and watch tv instead of buying it for their home?
Does it really matter if 15 or more people are viewing a program on one tv?
Heck, for years, we used to get together at a friend's house to watch NFL every Sunday. We were all in the same point spread pool. Usually there were 5 to 10 guys there.
What is the difference between that and a small sports bar that seats 10 or 15 people? Nothing.
Anyway, that's an argument for another day.

another part of it is support. over the summer, our backlog can be up to almost 2 weeks out. but if a commercial account called in with a problem we had to be there pretty much the next day. does not make techs happy when you blow up their schedule :P.
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Account Stacking?

To me this is one customer having several extra receivers distributed to family/friends in different locations on their own separate dish.

Now the Customer who has an extra receiver in the guest house on his property, camper he uses occasionally, or deer camp, while technically "against the rules" is ok in my opinion, and some techs don't care. When my home system was upgraded to a SWM system, the tech gave me an extra LNB & Power Inserter for my camper after I asked, no big deal.....

I live in South Texas, I know of several who have extra receivers on their account, or pay for accounts that are "South of the border".
I know of no case where DirecTV ever audited or disconnected them like Dishnet was doing years back, this is why historically DirecTV has has been more popular directly across the border where they get a good signal without resorting to larger dishes.

And yes there was the little bar in town with a normal capacity of 10-15 ppl, the owner got DirecTV installed with high hopes of watching all the NFL games, PPV, etc. When he got the price quote of $1000's for a single PPV boxing event, and $3500 for the Sunday Ticket, yes he ended up taking a Receiver from his house to the bar...
Against the rules? Yes, but I'm sure this happens more often then ppl realize in smaller bars, towns, etc.

Now if they were turned in and investigated, I'm sure DirecTV would disconnect them and pursue legal action if appropriate....
Claude Greiner
another part of it is support. over the summer, our backlog can be up to almost 2 weeks out. but if a commercial account called in with a problem we had to be there pretty much the next day. does not make techs happy when you blow up their schedule :P.

Yea it sucks. Every time one of my commercial customers have an issue no matter how stupid they open a case and assign us a service call.

I got several properties that I just ignore every service call they have until they either figure it out on their own or call my office and speak with me directly.

Most of the problem properties are either hotels or assisted living. As people move in and out they just can't seem to leave the Tv configuration alone. Always something stupid.

I had one yesterday. Must have gotten 3 emails and the customer blew up my phone at the office saying the whole building was down while I was at the dentist getting a tooth pulled.

Finally called them back and had them back up and running in 5 minutes. Some idiot turned off the power strip that powered the switches.

The worst part was that the girl at the assisted living center where this happened didn't believe me when I told her it was a blown fuse or the power strip was unplugged.

You install the stuff right the first time, you don't get service calls. Only calls for stupid stuff.
Claude Greiner
Account Stacking?

To me this is one customer having several extra receivers distributed to family/friends in different locations on their own separate dish.

Now the Customer who has an extra receiver in the guest house on his property, camper he uses occasionally, or deer camp, while technically "against the rules" is ok in my opinion, and some techs don't care. When my home system was upgraded to a SWM system, the tech gave me an extra LNB & Power Inserter for my camper after I asked, no big deal.....

I live in South Texas, I know of several who have extra receivers on their account, or pay for accounts that are "South of the border".
I know of no case where DirecTV ever audited or disconnected them like Dishnet was doing years back, this is why historically DirecTV has has been more popular directly across the border where they get a good signal without resorting to larger dishes.

And yes there was the little bar in town with a normal capacity of 10-15 ppl, the owner got DirecTV installed with high hopes of watching all the NFL games, PPV, etc. When he got the price quote of $1000's for a single PPV boxing event, and $3500 for the Sunday Ticket, yes he ended up taking a Receiver from his house to the bar...
Against the rules? Yes, but I'm sure this happens more often then ppl realize in smaller bars, towns, etc.

Now if they were turned in and investigated, I'm sure DirecTV would disconnect them and pursue legal action if appropriate....

Directv will go after a bar. I had one lady stack her home account with her bar. When she got caught she decided to get a legal commercial account thinking it was over.

The attorney wouldn't give up, then as leverage they shut off the new account we just installed legally.

I couldn't get paid till she resolved the issue with the attorney.

She settled it for $2000, and she was without Tv for 3 months.

She complained to me about how it wasn't right she had to pay. Then I reminded her how many years she cheated the system, and it actually came out cheaper paying the fine then if she paid full price for years like she should have.

Worse thing you can do is inquire about a commercial account, because as a dealer we will go back and check if we see a Dish on your building if you didn't go with us. I turn it in, if it's not setup properly.
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DIRECTV Stream/Internet added Ch 4105 SportsGrid
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Since it was already "paid" for, I spent the two hours of my time watching the John Cena action movie on Apple TV, "Matchbox The Movie" even though the reviews were brutal. It was better than I expected, so I didn't feel like I had wasted an afternoon watching it. But it felt like another "Reacher"/"Neghley"/"Mission: Impossible"/"Fast & Furious" crash and blow stuff up with lots of automatic gunfire mixed in movie featuring covert CIA operatives.

I don't think we'll get a follow-up movie from this. I expect Mattel will have other toy lines to exploit.
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PISTONS and THUNDER are finally testing on the stream server. PISTONS is showing the Ion/Scripps Sports promo loop filler that their NHL and WNBA feeds have, THUNDER has a "You are watching Thunder+" slate

The Clippers still haven't officially announced their TV plans beyond 10 simulcasts on KTLA, but the NBA's FAQ for ClipperVision is now live. The CLIPPERS feed is currently showing a loop of their Hawaii preseason game.

The Heat still haven't announced their West Palm Beach or Fort Myers affiliates. Since WPLG is streaming the games for free via their app, I doubt we'll be seeing the return of WPLG on stream.

So far nothing testing for the Bucks, Magic, Hawks or Hornets.
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The Heat still haven't announced their West Palm Beach or Fort Myers affiliates. Since WPLG is streaming the games for free via their app, I doubt we'll be seeing the return of WPLG on stream.
West Palm Beach is getting it on WTCN-CD/43 MNT. Still nothing for Fort Myers


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Thanks for the updates on CW norfolk
Hopefully comes to sat soon!!
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Not seeing 44 (WVBT-DT/44 CW Norfolk ) on my D* app for firestick
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It's only available for streaming customers, they still haven't added that batch of CW stations to satellite.

Even if it was, satellite customers still can't stream their CW affiliates via the app, just the Big 4, select PBS stations and some independents (mainly the ones that have full season NHL/NBA rights)
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This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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CFB, Notre Dame at BYU, Saturday 10-27, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
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CFB, Indiana at Michigan, Saturday 10-24, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
rvvaquero
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
M
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:

Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
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Jeeez, Week 6, no lead is safe…
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Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
Yes the Cowboys owner needs to fire the general manager (himself), co-owner, Chief Operating Officer (COO), Executive Vice President, Director of Player Personnel, and President of AT&T Stadium (his son) and then he should jump off of a cliff. Only then can they recover.
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Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.
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I was a devout Cowboy fan in the Landry era, grudgingly gave Jimmy his due, since then not so much, the Jones family took care of that...
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Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby
Regular$5.999​
Premium$6.399​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
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Regular$5.999​
Premium$6.399​
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.

Last night it was about $4.17 gas, $6,19 diesel.
harshness
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.
On the West Coast, a 40-cent differential is common. It used to be 30 cents before the prices rose above $3.

A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic), which is a whole different discussion.
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A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic),
Both non-ethanol and prem run about the same....buck more. When we were up in TN it was a buck more up there as well.
harshness
In Oregon, our premium boat gas is about a dollar more than our corn premium. Several stations only offer the non-corn premium grade.
Bobby
Regular$5.899​
Premium$6.299​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
dishstaller
Diesel is all over the place around here. Saw it yesterday from $5.37 to $6.17...not sure what the obsession was with ending in 7
dfergie
$4.09 - $4.29, real gas $4.69...