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MikeD-C05
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Interesting article about DISH I read today for those who want to read it. I didn't realize how many subs they have lost this year. Probably explains why the Flex pack was created.

www.fiercecable.com/cable/dish-loses-another-116k-subscribers-q3
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dare2be
If it weren't for the Flex/Smart/Welcome packs, I probably would have cut the cord this past year as well. So I opted to shave the cord for now instead of a full cut.
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If it weren't for the Flex/Smart/Welcome packs, I probably would have cut the cord this past year as well. So I opted to shave the cord for now instead of a full cut.
I decided to just look at other options from them, and got reminded of another sleezy thing Dish does... Once you go to mydish.com, it sets a cookie which redirects dish.com->mydish.com, and it's impossible to get to the new customer Dish site. There is no link on mydish.com to dish.com. You have to use a different browser, clear your cookies, or use private mode to get to dish.com.

Edit: I used one of those methods above to get to the dish.com site to check out the flex pack. My number 1 channel is NBCSN for F1 and IndyCar, and it looks like that channel is not available in the flex pack. Neither is BBC America, my wife's number 1 channel. Seems like an ok idea, but wouldn't have worked for us.
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dare2be
That's the one thing about Tivo that kept me away from it. Either pay the exorbitant monthly fee, or a lump sum lifetime fee, which is/was basically 2 years worth of fees upfront. Now there is not even a choice anymore. You pay $300-$400 for essentially a $150 box + another $150-$250 "all-in" fee. If I didn't like the service or the equipment, I'd be out all that money, or have to live with it for a year or two just to justify the cost, unless I was lucky enough to recoup some of the cost by reselling it.
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pattykay
My number 1 channel is NBCSN for F1 and IndyCar, and it looks like that channel is not available in the flex pack. Neither is BBC America, my wife's number 1 channel. Seems like an ok idea, but wouldn't have worked for us.
BBC America is frequently in free preview, if you can live with only getting it during the free previews. There will be yet another free preview of BBC America that starts later this month and lasts until mid-March.
Troch77
That's the one thing about Tivo that kept me away from it. Either pay the exorbitant monthly fee, or a lump sum lifetime fee, which is/was basically 2 years worth of fees upfront. Now there is not even a choice anymore. You pay $300-$400 for essentially a $150 box + another $150-$250 "all-in" fee. If I didn't like the service or the equipment, I'd be out all that money, or have to live with it for a year or two just to justify the cost, unless I was lucky enough to recoup some of the cost by reselling it.
Agree 100%
Tivo are great,
Still think the Roamio Pro was the best DVR I've ever used.
No doubt the Bolt is even better

BUT its just hard to stomach paying for, when electronics only have a few year lifespan before failure or obsolete.

And you only have 1 provider to choose from in many cases.
Monthly fee wise, it would save me $50 a month in cable fees.
But it would also cost me over $1400 to save me $50 a month.
And pray nothing happens in 3 years or more when I finally break even.

Just to do it all over again when it does break.

There is a reason Tivo sales are not very strong.
Sorry but they are way too expensive.
If you can buy a Hopper 3 for less than $275 there is absolutely no reason a base 6 Tuner Bolt Pro shouldn't be right around the same price point or less.
$530 w/tax, without lifetime.
GIMMIE A BREAK son.[emoji2]
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Agree 100%
Tivo are great,
Still think the Roamio Pro was the best DVR I've ever used.
No doubt the Bolt is even better

BUT its just hard to stomach paying for, when electronics only have a few year lifespan before failure or obsolete.

And you only have 1 provider to choose from in many cases.
Monthly fee wise, it would save me $50 a month in cable fees.
But it would also cost me over $1400 to save me $50 a month.
And pray nothing happens in 3 years or more when I finally break even.

Just to do it all over again when it does break.

There is a reason Tivo sales are not very strong.
Sorry but they are way too expensive.
If you can buy a Hopper 3 for less than $275 there is absolutely no reason a base 6 Tuner Bolt Pro shouldn't be right around the same price point or less.
$530 w/tax, without lifetime.
GIMMIE A BREAK son.[emoji2]

What electronics are you using that have such short lifespans? The main failure of a DVR is the hard drive, and those are easily replaced. In fact, I bought the 500GB TiVo and immediately put in my own 3TB drive.

At this point, other than the TiVos and my Xbox One, every TV, amp, blu ray, etc. is pushing 8yrs old or older.

Also, "prices" on satellite receivers are basically meaningless, as they are tied only to one provider, and that price is subsidized by the fees. That price would mean much more if I could buy it and not have to pay fees to use it.


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Troch77
What electronics are you using that have such short lifespans? The main failure of a DVR is the hard drive, and those are easily replaced. In fact, I bought the 500GB TiVo and immediately put in my own 3TB drive.

At this point, other than the TiVos and my Xbox One, every TV, amp, blu ray, etc. is pushing 8yrs old or older.

Also, "prices" on satellite receivers are basically meaningless, as they are tied only to one provider, and that price is subsidized by the fees. That price would mean much more if I could buy it and not have to pay fees to use it.


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So now I have to replace a Hardrive in a $800 receiver?
There's another example of an expense.
I wouldn't put a 500 GB hard drive in a Bolt Plus either.

What you seem to leave out is these Receivers run 24 hours a day 7 days a week.
PS2s or what ever an 8year old Playstation would be is not running constantly.
Clearly you aren't a gamer because you would have the latest technology.
The technology changes 2-3 times per decade.
Which also supports my beef with paying ridiculous amounts of DVR equipment for TV viewing.
When in 3 years you don't even know whats going to be out.

Blu Ray players and audio receivers don't have hard drives and the technology in both, hasn't changed a fraction of the DVR technology.
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So now I have to replace a Hardrive in a $800 receiver?
There's another example of an expense.
I wouldn't put a 500 GB hard drive in a Bolt Plus either.

What you seem to leave out is these Receivers run 24 hours a day 7 days a week.
PS2s or what ever an 8year old Playstation would be is not running constantly.
Clearly you aren't a gamer because you would have the latest technology.
The technology changes 2-3 times per decade.
Which also supports my beef with paying ridiculous amounts of DVR equipment for TV viewing.
When in 3 years you don't even know whats going to be out.

Blu Ray players and audio receivers don't have hard drives and the technology in both, hasn't changed a fraction of the DVR technology.

Yes, as stated earlier, buying equipment with lifetime is not for the person who has to have the latest every year or three. Renting and paying fees is the way to go. The same holds for phones. T-Mo jump is much better if you always have to have the latest. I'm perfectly happy with my 4yr old iPhone 5.

I do game, though not much, and my XB1 works perfectly on my Samsung LCD from 2008. Our main TV is my Philips 30" HDCRT from 2003, and we're perfectly happy with it. For those who are price conscious, and can live with slightly older tech, lifetime can be a much better deal.


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Troch77
Yes, as stated earlier, buying equipment with lifetime is not for the person who has to have the latest every year or three. Renting and paying fees is the way to go. The same holds for phones. T-Mo jump is much better if you always have to have the latest. I'm perfectly happy with my 4yr old iPhone 5.

I do game, though not much, and my XB1 works perfectly on my Samsung LCD from 2008. Our main TV is my Philips 30" HDCRT from 2003, and we're perfectly happy with it. For those who are price conscious, and can live with slightly older tech, lifetime can be a much better deal.


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Price Conscious people don't buy $850 Tivo with Lifetime services.
comfortably_numb
Price Conscious people don't buy $850 Tivo with Lifetime services.

Yeah, that's like buying a brand new car and paying cash.
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Troch77
Yeah, that's like buying a brand new car and paying cash.
When your offered 0% interest.
osu1991
I wouldn't pay the lifetime price now on a Bolt Pro or Roamio Pro. I think the $300-$350 area for the Roamio OTA with lifetime is about right. I paid around $450-$475 each for my three Roamio's and lifetime using the now dead PLSR code on the old pricing. My Roamio OTA I got for $199 with lifetime on a special weekend sale. Mini's I wait till they're on sale.

I've still got 2 DTVPals that have been going 24/7 since new. I had a third one with a problem, that I fixed and then gave to a neighbor with a tv I sold him when I wanted a bigger one. I had a 722 since the week they were new until last year and only had 1 failure in that time. It was pretty rock solid for me. It's still in the closet with a 211k.

I don't need the latest or greatest, although I do like to play with new things from time to time. I usually just give stuff to family members if I decide I want to upgrade. The only thing I've really had bad luck with is surround receivers. I had 3 that the hdmi circuits just quit working. The last one I just gave up and switched to optical cables. Not going to replace it until everything quits on it.

Some people are happy leasing, I prefer to own and not pay recurring fees when possible.
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Not surprising. I may join the ranks.

DISH has no tie ins with anyone today. So to get DISH and the savings they offer you have to pay more for other services.
Claude Greiner
Not surprising. I may join the ranks.

DISH has no tie ins with anyone today. So to get DISH and the savings they offer you have to pay more for other services.

That's because they screw over every company they have ever partnered with including their retailers.
pattykay
BBC America is frequently in free preview, if you can live with only getting it during the free previews. There will be yet another free preview of BBC America that starts later this month and lasts until mid-March.
Update: when I asked a Dish CSR what happened to the previously announced BBC America free preview, I was told that it will now run from February 14 to March 29. I got free premium movie packages on both of my accounts to make up for the inconvenience. On one account, I got Epix free for one month. On the other account, I got Starz free for three months. :)
dishstaller
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· posted in The Chit Chat Club
Dang female lions don't mess around when it comes to their kiddos....aka whelps.


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TheForce
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Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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harshness
Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.
comfortably_numb
Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.

Or better yet, innovate something "completely revolutionary!"
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Or better yet, innovate something "completely revolutionary!"
when was the last time they innovated something:rolleyes:
Foxbat
when was the last time they innovated something:rolleyes:
I'd probably say when they came up with their M-series of processors with integrated memory. That allowed Apple to get away from the inefficient Intel CPUs that were limiting their notebook computers.
Ramy
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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osu1991
:mad:..I hate playing in Ames.
Jimbo
:mad:..I hate playing in Ames.
I hate playing in LA ... :oldmad
Buckeyes had 2 weeks off and came out and looked absolutely terrible ... broke in a new Freshman Qb, but that wasn't the worst part ... undiscipline play, at last count they had 10 penalties.
Freshman in the end of the game trying to play catch up, had a lot of Over throws ... Bucks lose ...

#1 Miami struggled but pulled away in the end beating North Carolina by 3 ...

Tuesday the CFP brings out thier Playoff Top 12 again ... Buckeyes should drop from #2 to about #22 (they won't) had they had thier Starting QB, it would have been a different game ...

They could lose the rest of thier games at this point.
Foxbat
:mad:..I hate playing in Ames.
My in-Laws came from Iowa, she was a graduate of ISU. Unranked Iowa teams beat the #24 and #25 teams on Halloween.

And I heard that your QB made a poor choice after scoring the tying touchdown, leading to a fifteen yard penalty on the ensuing kickoff. The Cyclones were then able to take advantage of the resulting field position to get close enough to score the winning field goal.

In a NCAA Football season of bizarre endings, this has to rank right up there.
osu1991
My in-Laws came from Iowa, she was a graduate of ISU. Unranked Iowa teams beat the #24 and #25 teams on Halloween.

And I heard that your QB made a poor choice after scoring the tying touchdown, leading to a fifteen yard penalty on the ensuing kickoff. The Cyclones were then able to take advantage of the resulting field position to get close enough to score the winning field goal.

In a NCAA Football season of bizarre endings, this has to rank right up there.
Yep, but wasn't the QB. Was WR. Offense had a great game but defense didn't show up at all. I don't think they were even in the State.
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osu1991
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:mad::mad::mad::mad:

Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.

Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.

After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.

I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.
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Foxbat
Why isn't this Political thread over in the Pit? This is why there is a Pit, and why I rarely use the Chit Chat Club. But someone said, "The Pub is Elitist since you have to pay dues to enter, so please post in the Chit Chat forum so more guests can read and participate."
harshness
Why isn't this Political thread over in the Pit?
Because health care shouldn't be a political issue?
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osu1991
Such a scam. Healthcare.gov shows me cheaper individual plans available for 2027 from ambetter that ambetter doesn't show on their website. Looked it up. I've spent $68,000 in premiums the last 5 years and got nothing out of it except a few doctors visits and labs. 😡
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dishstaller
I've spent $68,000 in premiums the last 5 years
That's why I cancelled ours and just started saving the money. We're about to do the same thing with our home insurance.....not cancel it outright but do away with the portion which covers wind damage. We're paying over $5k right now and that is AFTER I dumbed things down...and it keeps going up. Got a couple trees I want to have taken down first before I do that however. After we do that, it will knock about $3k off our annual premium.
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osu1991
I'm still 7 yrs from Medicare eligibility, but I'm leaning towards going without for at least the next year
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dishstaller
I'm still 7 yrs from Medicare eligibility, but I'm leaning towards going without for at least the next year
It probably depends on your health. My Wife and I are very careful about our health and I take a crap load of supplements, especially antioxidants. Sounds like you don't have any health issues so it might be worth the gamble.
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Foxbat
Everyone's experience and circumstances is different. When I was working, we had a High-Deductible Medical Plan the Company and I paid for. We never hit the $3,600/$7,200 deductible as we were healthy, but even with a couple of sports-ball related injuries to Foxbat, Jr., the costs were in-line. He even had the same surgery that the Arkansas QB had to stabilize his ankle joint after a fibula break during football practice. The HSA plan worked as intended, letting us put pre-tax dollars into a fund that could then be used to pay for medical expenses and prescription drugs, or kept year after year to build up in case of a major medical emergency. Sure, I had to pay ~$89/pay period for the Family Medical coverage, but that was under $3,000 a year.

Now that I'm retired, I'm paying under $300/mo. for Part B, under $15/mo. for Part D, and ~$200/mo. for Part G Supplemental. Call it $6,500 a year. I'm sure this will increase as time goes forward, but it depends on how much our AGI is.
WhiteBeard
:mad::mad::mad::mad:

Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.

Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.

After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.

I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.
I'm on Medicare but the rest of the family is on ACA. ACA is ridiculus. The ACA premium has been about about $1900/month with a $9K deductible for the past 10 years - no eye or dental. A lot of money and yet we get so little in return. I haven't signed up for 2027 yet but I expect the cost to be higher.
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WhiteBeard
Because health care shouldn't be a political issue?
It's political because government has inserted itself into the loop.
WhiteBeard
That's why I cancelled ours and just started saving the money. We're about to do the same thing with our home insurance.....not cancel it outright but do away with the portion which covers wind damage. We're paying over $5k right now and that is AFTER I dumbed things down...and it keeps going up. Got a couple trees I want to have taken down first before I do that however. After we do that, it will knock about $3k off our annual premium.
Our home and auto insurance has been stable so I'll continue with it but I'm going to have see what I can do about medical insurance. The biggest impact would be an ER visit.
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I have Dish with Hopper3. I choose to get local channels OTA and had a "guide list" established at my previous home. Having moved a few miles away, I wanted to update the list by appending a couple new stations via a rescan. As many would know, some stations come in with the UHF/VHF antenna aimed in one direction, while others come in better with a different direction.

Unfortunately, when a scan is done (bringing in 25-30 stations for that particular antenna aim), the dialog screen does not present the established guide list; it presents an empty field to the right that the scanned stations may be selected one by one and added to the empty guide. But because of antenna aim, some stations originally saved are missing, and would have to be retrieved with a different antenna aim. But as I explain, if a 2nd​ scan is done with a different antenna aim, the stations saved from the first scan are lost.

It troubles me that Dish didn't develop software that would allow a user to simply append only 1 or 2 channels to the established list. :mad:

Any thought on this? Has anyone experienced this or heard of this from others?
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R
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I had an old Wireless Joey replaced by a Wireless Joey 4 (Android TV) - still have a Hopper 3 without the Hopper Plus. What do I have to do to get the EPG to show channel logos instead of "Dish"? This is annoying as hell and it's been this way for over a month…
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B
That kind of crap annoys me to no end.
That is one reason I haven't switched to h3and the same wireless joey 4
Hope you get it resolved.
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ewindowman
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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ewindowman
Correct me if I'm wrong but Dish borrowed lots of money to start a wireless company that was most likely doomed from the beginning. They bought spectrum at any cost to acquire enough bandwidth to achieve their goal. They signed leases and bought equipment and borrowed more money. They held onto the spectrum as long as possible. They then sold most of it to different companies and made a lot of money. Then they started to screw the companies that were installing and leasing the equipment and cell towers. Now they are going to claim bankruptcy under the Dish Network part of Echo Star while they have billions of dollars. So Dish basically took everyone's money that was involved in the financial part of this transaction made a huge profit is screwing everyone over from the banks to the little guy working on the towers and infrastructure.
nelson61
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They note that the Dish Wireless radios at issue support the 2GHz and 800MHz spectrum SpaceX is acquiring from EchoStar and Grain.

"Buying compatible equipment already installed on towers could give SpaceX a head start on its wireless terrestrial network build and throw a big bucket of cold water on Verizon's four-to-six-year timeline and $300-$500 billion estimate for SpaceX's buildout," said the analysts."
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Correct me if I'm wrong but Dish borrowed lots of money to start a wireless company that was most likely doomed from the beginning. They bought spectrum at any cost to acquire enough bandwidth to achieve their goal. They signed leases and bought equipment and borrowed more money. They held onto the spectrum as long as possible. They then sold most of it to different companies and made a lot of money. Then they started to screw the companies that were installing and leasing the equipment and cell towers. Now they are going to claim bankruptcy under the Dish Network part of Echo Star while they have billions of dollars. So Dish basically took everyone's money that was involved in the financial part of this transaction made a huge profit is screwing everyone over from the banks to the little guy working on the towers and infrastructure.
i heard charlie went to dubai begging for money. but he didn't get none... that should have raised red flags.
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They note that the Dish Wireless radios at issue support the 2GHz and 800MHz spectrum SpaceX is acquiring from EchoStar and Grain.

"Buying compatible equipment already installed on towers could give SpaceX a head start on its wireless terrestrial network build and throw a big bucket of cold water on Verizon's four-to-six-year timeline and $300-$500 billion estimate for SpaceX's buildout," said the analysts."
Back when Dish was installing antennas everywhere for their internet service I mapped several of the tower locations around me. One is less than a mile away from me and several more about three miles away in several different directions. If SpaceX does something with these I may be in a prime spot.
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dishstaller
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This should hit a lot of folks with a dose of reality. I can only imagine how much more common this will get as AI progresses.

I read several stories on this and most are clear as mud. They say a lot of the stolen bitcoin has been "locked out" and that everyone will be made financially whole. I guess time will tell if either of these statements are actually true.

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Juan
Where would you spend 6.3 billion in crypto without anyone noticing?..In today's digital world most countries are watching purchases over 10k
dishstaller
Where would you spend 6.3 billion in crypto without anyone noticing?
They say it was North Korea so they'll probably just use it to buy things they need....oil, food, etc from nations and entities who don't care where the money comes from and since it is BTC...it can be spent anywhere with no blowback.
meStevo
They say it was North Korea so they'll probably just use it to buy things they need....oil, food, etc from nations and entities who don't care where the money comes from and since it is BTC...it can be spent anywhere with no blowback.
North Korea can't pay for oil with BTC. The money has to be laundered and cashed out first. Analytics firms can trace it on the public blockchain, and exchanges (including Binance) have frozen money traced back to prior hacks when it showed up. Much of it may still gets through eventually. It's just slow and lossy, not "spend anywhere."

Someone using AI would be able to see the purchase...plus if you were to buy a couple billion barrels of oil or any other commodity..someone would notice..or if you bought your own country

It can be traced, the rest of this is pretty much your usual nonsense though.

How does it have such billions simply "on hand" to replace stolen billions?

Binance has had an insurance fund since 2018, funded by 10% of trading fees. It's around $1.2B, and Binance says it'll cover the rest from company money. As the world's largest exchange, it makes a lot in fees. On top of that, the ~$3B in frozen stablecoins can be reissued by Tether/Circle, so the actual hole is smaller than the headline.

You "print" it, of course. That's part of the magic of cryptocurrency.

Nobody can print bitcoin, Binance included. Supply is fixed by the protocol. The only thing in this story that can be frozen and reissued is stablecoins, because they have a company behind them.
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They say it was North Korea so they'll probably just use it to buy things they need....oil, food, etc from nations and entities who don't care where the money comes from and since it is BTC...it can be spent anywhere with no blowback.

HA! That short/fat Dictator will buy more arms. He does not care about the people.
dishstaller
North Korea can't pay for oil with BTC. The money has to be laundered and cashed out first. Analytics firms can trace it on the public blockchain, and exchanges (including Binance) have frozen money traced back to prior hacks when it showed up. Much of it may still gets through eventually. It's just slow and lossy, not "spend anywhere."
Yeah, I read the same thing in multiple articles. However, when some type of hack takes place and a company's computer system is hit with ransomware, the culprits always demand BTC and those stories always say they want BTC because it is untraceable so the hackers are therefore never caught. It is contradictory crap like this that causes people not to believe any "official" statements when something like this takes place.
meStevo
Yeah, I read the same thing in multiple articles. However, when some type of hack takes place and a company's computer system is hit with ransomware, the culprits always demand BTC and those stories always say they want BTC because it is untraceable so the hackers are therefore never caught. It is contradictory crap like this that causes people not to believe any "official" statements when something like this takes place.
Bitcoin is pseudonymous, not anonymous; every transaction is public forever. Ransomware gangs ask for BTC mostly because it's easy for a victim to buy and can't be reversed, not because it can't be followed. The privacy-focused ones demand Monero instead.

The reason hackers often aren't caught is where they are, not the coin. If the wallet traces back to a group in Russia or North Korea, everyone can see the money and still can't arrest anyone. Traceable and catchable are two different things, and the media mashes them together.
dishstaller
The reason hackers often aren't caught is where they are, not the coin. If the wallet traces back to a group in Russia or North Korea, everyone can see the money and still can't arrest anyone. Traceable and catchable are two different things, and the media mashes them together.
Then doesn't that mean that NK can spend the BTC as it wants to or is there a way to flag the BTC, kinda like blacklisting an IMEI when it comes to cell phones.
meStevo
Operations returning to normal today as withdrawals are opening back up for Binance users.

Then doesn't that mean that NK can spend the BTC as it wants to or is there a way to flag the BTC, kinda like blacklisting an IMEI when it comes to cell phones.

Pretty good analogy actually. Bitcoin itself can't blacklist a coin since nobody runs the network. But the exchanges and cash-out points can, and do. Treasury publishes sanctioned wallet addresses (North Korea's included), and exchanges run every deposit through tracing tools. Coins traced back to a flagged wallet get refused or frozen.

So it's like a blacklisted phone: it still powers on, but no carrier will activate it. And just like those phones, the coins get shipped off to someone who doesn't check, in this case shady brokers who'll swap it for cash at a steep discount. NK can't walk up and buy oil with BTC, but after enough laundering, most of it does eventually turn into usable money.

Extending the analogy, if Bitcoin is an IMEI blacklist then stablecoins are like Apple's Activation Lock. The issuer controls it at the source, so once it's locked it's a brick everywhere. That's why the stablecoins in this hack got frozen within hours and the bitcoin didn't.
zippyfrog
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Over the past year I have been tracking the changes on Western Arc. The past 3 months have had a lot of changes that I posted in the other MPEG2 Western Arc shutdown thread. Now that 129 is (basically) out of commission, here is where Western Arc stands. This is just a national channel list, (no local channels) based off what I can see and what others have contributed. Thanks to everyone who has helped me come up with the locations of some of the channels – I would try and list all of you out, but I know I would forget someone! As has been suggested in other parts of the forum, it would be great to collect the spotbeam data for those who could contribute!

A couple of pieces of info:
  • Out of the 64 transponders between 110/119, there are currently 50 transponders that Dish is licensed to use. 22 are Spotbeams, 28 are ConUS transponders (14 transponders are licensed to DirecTV and Dish doesn't have access to them)
  • Those 28 ConUS transponders are divided as follows:
    • 10 are dedicated to National HD channels (ESPN, CNN, Disney Channel, etc). Dish is maxing out at 16 HD channels per transponder (note – in an earlier post I said there was one transponder with 17 HD channels, that was an error on my part. When I double checked my listings, one channel changed transponders). Before the transition, there was a maximum of 14 HD channels per transponder.
    • 1 transponder is dedicated to adult content
    • 2 are a mixture HD PPV Movies/4k channels
    • 3 are set aside for HD Sports channels that are only on for live games (NBA League Pass, the PAC 12 alternate channels, some PPV events, etc); 3 SD PPV Sports Channels are there as well.
    • 7 are for SD and/or music channels. Dish is maxing out at 26 SD channels per transponder thus far on the SD transponders.
    • 5 transponders on 110 I have no channels listed but Dish operates. (they are labeled as ConUS on my chart below) There are other things that could be on those transponders, like RV Distant Networks, internal testing channels, etc, that I can't see. They might be able to be used for additional content, but I am not sure exactly what is on those transponders.
There are two transponders that have lower than normal SD channels – 110, TP 21 and 119, TP 19. Previously those transponders contained the programming guides that get downloaded from the satellite when the receivers download EPG. I assume that is where the programming guides are still downloaded from, thus less channels there.

When I talk about number of channels on a transponder, all my numbers are unique channels – for example, channel 101 and 199 are the same channel mapped to two different numbers, but in terms of space, only takes up 1 channel worth of bandwidth on the transponder.

Finally, I have to give Dish a ton of credit. When it was 110/119/129, Dish had 82 transponders they were using – it took a lot to get it down to 50 transponders and figure out where all the pieces were going to go. What are the things they did to get there? Here are the things I saw:
  • During this migration from 129, Dish converted 7 ConUS transponders on 119 into Spotbeams – that is how they ended up fitting on all the HD locals that used to be on 129. (for those interested, TP 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13 are the ones that used to be ConUS on 119 that are now Spotbeam)
  • Removed almost all SD duplicate channels that are offered in HD
  • Converted remaining SD channels from MPEG2 to MPEG4
  • There are also 2 subtle things that changed from the HD channel perspective
    • At the beginning of the transition, Dish decreased the number of PPV Movie channels – prior to this transition the PPV channels HD PPV movies were 502-522; now they are 502-517.
    • At the beginning of April when MLB, NBA, and NHL regular seasons were all going on at the same time and this transition began, there were a ton of games "joined in progress" for the HD feeds. That wasn't common since the days before the full time HD RSN's. The reason for that was prior to the transition, Dish had 4 transponders set aside for HD Sports – 2 transponders was the bandwidth set aside from the HD RSN's before Dish dropped the RSN's, then 2 transponders were for alternate channels. Now we are down to 3 transponders for HD sports.
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zippyfrog
Updated the listings on the first couple of posts - been very few changes over these past couple of months so not as much to update!
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Today Dish brought back it's traditional Halloween Dish Scape on 303. It is on 119, TP 20. Clearly this is just a temporary channel and will be removed in November, so I am not including it on the channel list right now.
zippyfrog
With the extra hour I had this morning, I updated the listings. Another month has passed, and nothing has moved off 110 to 119 for the national channels. I really thought those handful of transponders on 119 would have been populated with the national channels from 110, but no change.

Can someone who has a Hopper tell me if the 4k channels are still on 110 and if so, what transponder?
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Bobby
With the extra hour I had this morning, I updated the listings. Another month has passed, and nothing has moved off 110 to 119 for the national channels. I really thought those handful of transponders on 119 would have been populated with the national channels from 110, but no change.

Can someone who has a Hopper tell me if the 4k channels are still on 110 and if so, what transponder?
They appear to be on 110, transponder 8.
zippyfrog
They appear to be on 110, transponder 8.
Thanks! I do have my listing correct then.
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