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Last reply Dec 26, 2016 · posted in Cable Television and Fiber Providers

Comcast deemed not at fault by Indianapolis PD

Indiana experienced a snowfall which made this particular road icy.
Comcast techs blocked one travel lane. According to local authorities, the workers used OSHA Best Practices properly and deemed the company not at fault for the several vehicle crashes
http://www.fiercecable.com/cable/comcast-not-at-fault-icy-pile-up-indy-police-say?utm_medium=nl&utm_source=internal&mrkid=4635959&mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiTmpVeVpUQTJaamRqTmpNMiIsInQiOiI1QklHUXBRUXNwenRmcWVZdHNUY1I0Z2RTUnBqNUJXMElQbVY2RVBuUGViU3ZHbXExN3Fhbko4Z3JoYlZTTVJSWHgwSGVWTFRJZkY4U1FPK3V6RFR4ZlAzSEM0NURHemJXbzJ1SXlQWEY1MjlabEdURVExXC9jVHlZem5VNU5janQifQ==
From where I sit,the techs while adhering to guidelines, ignored common sense and went forward with their work.
But for the presence of the Comcast vehicles, none of these incidents would have occurred.
There is a video in the link....The techs seemed oblivious to the vehicle wrecks around them and were not very pleasant to the public.
I think the company can expect lawsuits or at least subrogation letters from insurance carriers.
I would also sue the techs, jointly and severally as they made the decision to work when road conditions were hazardous which created even larger hazards.
Now, that is not to say some of the drivers were traveling too fast. Such as the person driving the pickup truck that rear ended a motorist that was using great caution.
If it were my job, I would have called dispatch to ask them to summon police presence until the work was completed. That would have been the right thing to do

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Juan

Dec 20, 2016

dishcomm said:
The cable guys were not technically at fault. However, they should have recognized the potential hazards of the adverse road conditions, the fact that they were working just over the crest of a hill.
TV and internet is NOT that important.

Telephone service is..I think you need to reevaluate your comments

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dishcomm

Dec 20, 2016

Juan_ said:
Telephone service is..I think you need to reevaluate your comments

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The majority of people in urban ad suburban areas have cell phones.....
I'm not reevaluating anything...This was a safety and common sense issue.
The repairs can wait.

Juan

Dec 21, 2016

dishcomm said:
The majority of people in urban ad suburban areas have cell phones.....
I'm not reevaluating anything...This was a safety and common sense issue.
The repairs can wait.

Do you know how cell phones work?..they connect to land line trunks similar to the one Comcast was working on

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Radioguy41

Dec 22, 2016

dishcomm said:
Indiana experienced a snowfall which made this particular road icy.
Comcast techs blocked one travel lane. According to local authorities, the workers used OSHA Best Practices properly and deemed the company not at fault for the several vehicle crashes

Following legal guidelines that don't apply to current conditions doesn't make you blameless. I don't care how important you think telephone service may be, it doesn't excuse ignoring common sense and putting people's lives at unnecessary risk. It's obvious Comcast knew early enough about the line issue and the weather conditions to make safety arrangments but failed to do so. In a court of law that's culpability, OSHA rules adherence or not.

Juan

Dec 22, 2016

jeepguy said:
Following legal guidelines that don't apply to current conditions doesn't make you blameless. I don't care how important you think telephone service may be, it doesn't excuse ignoring common sense and putting people's lives at unnecessary risk. It's obvious Comcast knew early enough about the line issue and the weather conditions to make safety arrangments but failed to do so. In a court of law that's culpability, OSHA rules adherence or not.

Are they supposed to walk off the job?..get fired?..they did nothing wrong..they followed the rules..no charges filed..just a bunch of clueless snowflakes who don't know how to drive..people who can't take personal responsibility for their own actions..always have to blame someone or something else for their own misfortune because they can't drive in the snow

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dishcomm

Dec 25, 2016

Juan_ said:
Do you know how cell phones work?..they connect to land line trunks similar to the one Comcast was working on

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Nice try.
I was merely pointing out the fact that more people than not are dropping their land line and digital tel service in lieu of wireless.
So let me know when you want to crash your car because some cable guy who created a major traffic hazard because he "was just doing his job"....
I'm not implying the crew did not have the right to be there to perform their work. I am stating that they should have taken additional precautions due to the adverse weather and road conditions.
This was no time to be citing OSHA minimum regulations and company rules.
As a company acting as a public utility for phone access only, they should have taken the time to ensure the safety of the public.
They did not. IMO the judge in this case had interpreted the laws differently.
I'm not arguing. Just presenting another point of view.
There will be insurance claims. There will be subrogation actions against Comcast. That despite the judge's opinion. There will be lawsuits against Comcast which they WILL to avaoid costly legal fees, settle with the plaintiffs.
Unfortunately this is how the civil system works.

Juan

Dec 25, 2016

dishcomm said:
Nice try.
I was merely pointing out the fact that more people than not are dropping their land line and digital tel service in lieu of wireless.
So let me know when you want to crash your car because some cable guy who created a major traffic hazard because he "was just doing his job"....
I'm not implying the crew did not have the right to be there to perform their work. I am stating that they should have taken additional precautions due to the adverse weather and road conditions.
This was no time to be citing OSHA minimum regulations and company rules.
As a company acting as a public utility for phone access only, they should have taken the time to ensure the safety of the public.
They did not. IMO the judge in this case had interpreted the laws differently.
I'm not arguing. Just presenting another point of view.
There will be insurance claims. There will be subrogation actions against Comcast. That despite the judge's opinion. There will be lawsuits against Comcast which they WILL to avaoid costly legal fees, settle with the plaintiffs.
Unfortunately this is how the civil system works.

He can't abandon without permission..do you have a job?..ask your boss what he thinks

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dishcomm

Dec 25, 2016

Juan_ said:
Are they supposed to walk off the job?..get fired?..they did nothing wrong..they followed the rules..no charges filed..just a bunch of clueless snowflakes who don't know how to drive..people who can't take personal responsibility for their own actions..always have to blame someone or something else for their own misfortune because they can't drive in the snow

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Just a minute. So, you are driving 15 or 20 mph in the snow. You crest a hill and notice that about 400 feet away your travel lane is blocked. You apply the brakes, due to the ice and snow, your ability to control the vehicle is compromised. You crash.
In the video this was the majority of the cases. Slow slide down the hill. Now, there were those driving too fast for conditions. No one is considering them. They are at fault..
Forget the minimum standards. These do not apply hazardous weather and road conditions. Additional precautions should have been made.
The job? The job can wait until the hazard has been mitigated. All that needed to be done was to either place a flag man at the top of the hill and one just beyond the service vehicles. They could have asked the police to block off the road until the repairs were completed. They could have asked the city road department to send a truck to treat the road surface.
No, these guys who were concerned only with themselves, did nothing but cite OSHA regulations and use snarky responses to the concerned.. People were placed in harms way. Including themselves. Suppose there was a serious injury or heaven forbid a fatality? Would you have the same cavalier attitude? Suppose it were one of your loved ones?
Lemme tell ya something, I HATE the litigiousness of our society. People suing because their neighbor smokes cigars on his front porch. Stupid crap like that.
My take on this was the situation and the existing hazards called for more precautions than just the standard. If were their boss, I would have fired them for doing their job in the manner in which they did it. It was in my opinion inadequate.

Juan

Dec 25, 2016

dishcomm said:
Just a minute. So, you are driving 15 or 20 mph in the snow. You crest a hill and notice that about 400 feet away your travel lane is blocked. You apply the brakes, due to the ice and snow, your ability to control the vehicle is compromised. You crash.
In the video this was the majority of the cases. Slow slide down the hill. Now, there were those driving too fast for conditions. No one is considering them. They are at fault..
Forget the minimum standards. These do not apply hazardous weather and road conditions. Additional precautions should have been made.
The job? The job can wait until the hazard has been mitigated. All that needed to be done was to either place a flag man at the top of the hill and one just beyond the service vehicles. They could have asked the police to block off the road until the repairs were completed. They could have asked the city road department to send a truck to treat the road surface.
No, these guys who were concerned only with themselves, did nothing but cite OSHA regulations and use snarky responses to the concerned.. People were placed in harms way. Including themselves. Suppose there was a serious injury or heaven forbid a fatality? Would you have the same cavalier attitude? Suppose it were one of your loved ones?
Lemme tell ya something, I HATE the litigiousness of our society. People suing because their neighbor smokes cigars on his front porch. Stupid crap like that.
My take on this was the situation and the existing hazards called for more precautions than just the standard. If were their boss, I would have fired them for doing their job in the manner in which they did it. It was in my opinion inadequate.

I guess you never worked for a utility..that's how it is
.besides police said they were aok

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dishcomm

Dec 25, 2016

Juan_ said:
He can't abandon without permission..do you have a job?..ask your boss what he thinks

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Who said anything about "abandoning" the job. I neither stated nor implied that.
I just got through stating this was not an argument, but me merely stating a point of view.
What part of that did you not understand?
No, I don't have a job. I am self employed. And my boss thinks that for this instance the standard precautions were inadequate. My boss says he recommends additional safety precautions would be warranted and he would have backed me up on that point.

Juan

Dec 25, 2016

dishcomm said:
Who said anything about "abandoning" the job. I neither stated nor implied that.
I just got through stating this was not an argument, but me merely stating a point of view.
What part of that did you not understand?
No, I don't have a job. I am self employed. And my boss thinks that for this instance the standard precautions were inadequate. My boss says he recommends additional safety precautions would be warranted and he would have backed me up on that point.

That's cool
.would you feel the same way if it was a Telco or power company truck?

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dishcomm

Dec 25, 2016

Juan_ said:
I guess you never worked for a utility..that's how it is
.besides police said they were aok

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Yeah. The cops said that because they have political and liability concerns as well.
"you didn't ask" .....Think about THAT. What would you think if I stated if the police were asked to provide a patrol car to assist, they would have obliged?
BTW, the police have no say here. That's why we have legal professionals.
Remember this. In the story the Comcast spokesperson stated their internal investigation into the matter is not complete.
My guess is that Comcast thinks that because the local PD rendered an opinion siding with the company that it come as no surprise that both those techs are no longer with the company. They were probably offered an opportunity to self terminate with some kind of severance package with the stipulation that they were not to engage an attorney in any action against the Company, nor were they to engage any plaintiff's attorney or testify in a deposition or trial as a witness against the company...
Again, that is a guess. If you think this scenario has never played out before, think again.
It is my opinion, that those two techs are not going to get through this unscathed. JMHO....

Juan

Dec 25, 2016

dishcomm said:
Yeah. The cops said that because they have political and liability concerns as well.
"you didn't ask" .....Think about THAT. What would you think if I stated if the police were asked to provide a patrol car to assist, they would have obliged?
BTW, the police have no say here. That's why we have legal professionals.
Remember this. In the story the Comcast spokesperson stated their internal investigation into the matter is not complete.
My guess is that Comcast thinks that because the local PD rendered an opinion siding with the company that it come as no surprise that both those techs are no longer with the company. They were probably offered an opportunity to self terminate with some kind of severance package with the stipulation that they were not to engage an attorney in any action against the Company, nor were they to engage any plaintiff's attorney or testify in a deposition or trial as a witness against the company...
Again, that is a guess. If you think this scenario has never played out before, think again.
It is my opinion, that those two techs are not going to get through this unscathed. JMHO....

They have to do what their boss wants them to do..they can't walk away from a a job without consequences..your world is different than theirs..

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dishcomm

Dec 25, 2016

Juan_ said:
That's cool
.would you feel the same way if it was a Telco or power company truck?

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yes. Absolutely. Safety is safety.
The way I see it is if a company is occupying a public roadway, they owe it to the public to ensure reasonable and proper safety precautions proportionate to the conditions at hand are taken.
For example. Road crews, landscape companies performing work for the municipality or state, always use flag people to control traffic. Same goes for power companies working on cables overhead. The telcos ( AT&T or Windstream) do so as well....As does Spectrum( Fmr Time Warner)..
You misunderstand. This is not a "cable thing" where I am adding additional scrutiny due to some perceived anti Comcast thing....Not at all. I guess any personal bias here is the crappy attitude of the Comcast techs. The one guy that arrived later in the video was a a-hole. What he forgets is he as a representative of Comcast should be presenting a professional image while on duty. It should not matter the circumstances. While in uniform performing his duties, he is representing his employer.
if were his manager I would have terminated him or asked for his resignation based on that fact alone.
IN my past occupations as a manager/supervisory person, the workers on my crews represented ME. Just as I acted as a representative for my employer. If my crew or a member of said crew act in a way that cast me in a bad light, that crew member is going to get anything from a stern warning up to either voluntary or involuntary termination.
In other words, you don't ever make me look bad in front of the customer or the general public.

dishcomm

Dec 25, 2016

Juan_ said:
They have to do what their boss wants them to do..they can't walk away from a a job without consequences..your world is different than theirs..

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We both do not know the circumstances of any communications between the techs and their supervisors.

Juan

Dec 25, 2016

dishcomm said:
yes. Absolutely. Safety is safety.
The way I see it is if a company is occupying a public roadway, they owe it to the public to ensure reasonable and proper safety precautions proportionate to the conditions at hand are taken.
For example. Road crews, landscape companies performing work for the municipality or state, always use flag people to control traffic. Same goes for power companies working on cables overhead. The telcos ( AT&T or Windstream) do so as well....As does Spectrum( Fmr Time Warner)..
You misunderstand. This is not a "cable thing" where I am adding additional scrutiny due to some perceived anti Comcast thing....Not at all. I guess any personal bias here is the crappy attitude of the Comcast techs. The one guy that arrived later in the video was a a-hole. What he forgets is he as a representative of Comcast should be presenting a professional image while on duty. It should not matter the circumstances. While in uniform performing his duties, he is representing his employer.
if were his manager I would have terminated him or asked for his resignation based on that fact alone.
IN my past occupations as a manager/supervisory person, the workers on my crews represented ME. Just as I acted as a representative for my employer. If my crew or a member of said crew act in a way that cast me in a bad light, that crew member is going to get anything from a stern warning up to either voluntary or involuntary termination.
In other words, you don't ever make me look bad in front of the customer or the general public.

You follow the rules
.Comcast did that

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Juan

Dec 25, 2016

dishcomm said:
We both do not know the circumstances of any communications between the techs and their supervisors.

Don't really have to

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Juan

Dec 25, 2016

Merry Christmas dishcomm!! And have a happy and safe New Year

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Stargazer

Dec 26, 2016

The video is making its rounds on Facebook. Pretty shocking video of what happened. They need something similar to road work signs in the future to help prevent this from happening again. I almost hit a fire truck around a blind curve earlier this year and others complained as well that I spoke to not having warning before the turn. Power line went down and had to drive off the road to avoid it.

harshness

Dec 26, 2016

dishcomm said:
You apply the brakes, due to the ice and snow, your ability to control the vehicle is compromised. You crash.

The bigger question here is whether or not you really needed to be out driving in such conditions.

Self-importance can be a very dangerous affliction.

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Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.

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Lots of offers on the hopper account app . On the website there are only a few.

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look again mine says free for 1 month

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look again mine says free for 1 month

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EarDemon

Tuesday at 9:43 PM

If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.

WhiteBeard

Tuesday at 9:59 PM

EarDemon said:
If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.

To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.

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EarDemon

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WhiteBeard said:
To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.

For niche use cases, yes I agree. Kali for ethical hacking and security testing, and running a Cacti server for network monitoring are the two things I have experience in. Plus thousands and thousands of other things, but for every day use I just can't see it. The owner of the GMRS repeater that I pay to access is changing the Tx DPL tones tomorrow, while Chirp is available on Linux, the software to program my MXT500 is not.

I run Fedora and Ubuntu in VMWare, honestly I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows. The cartoonish dock at the bottom of the screen reminds me of Apple products.

EarDemon

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I have no OEM bloat, on CTO devices where I can access the drive, I order it with the smallest allowed drive and crack the device open throw the factory drive in the garbage and put in my own WD Black and install Windows from bootable media. For Windows bloat, I install Windows using the English - World option which limits preinstalled MS bloat.

Windows and Office features I wish to block, like CoPilot and Cortana, macro enabled Office files and others are blocked with GPOs.

Between keeping all software up to date, doing firmware updates, putting IoT devices on a separate VLAN, running Symantec Endpoint (say what you want about it, it's been good to me) and practicing safe hex, I'm vigilant but not paranoid about security.

With NVMe SSDs, my cold boot up time on all devices is under 30 secs as well. Fast boot disabled, BitLocker drive encryption enabled.

I have nothing against Linux, been paying with it on and off since 2004ish, it's just not the right solution for me.

HipKat

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EarDemon said:
it's just not the right solution for me.

As I said above, and, FWIW, I run Win11 Pro and Arch on separate 250 GB NVME drives, using F8 to select which I boot to, with a 1TB SSD for storage, accessible to both OSs and a third formatted Nvme I want to use to learn Kali. It was much faster to setup Arch than it was to strip down Windows. Windows still takes much longer to boot.

harshness

Yesterday at 11:18 AM

EarDemon said:
I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows.

What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI? By many accounts, it has been going downhill since Windows 7.

There are Linux desktops that offer Windows or Mac UIs, yet you don't hear much chatter about them outside of questions about when the creators might get sued.

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What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI?

Because it's what I prefer. I know I've said this a few times, I use Open Shell to give me the cascading start menu a la WIN 95 and NT4.0. The only reason I went from Windows Vista to 7 back in the day was because of Classic Shell. I cannot stand anything other than the OG start menu from 30+ years ago. I'm using ExplorerPatcher to give me Windows 10 UI elements of the taskbar and right click context menus.

If you could take a look at how I set up Windows 95, you'd find many similarities to how I use 11.

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EarDemon

Yesterday at 9:10 PM

I could probably use that as a starting point, but I don't like the full size icons. If you have to click on each folder that's also a no-go for me, it has to be cascading.

I used to have Peppermint Linux in a VM, that was about as close as I could get to recreating a Windows NT4.0 style of menu structure, but I could never get it to scale properly in VMWare on a 4K display and eventually gave up.

Whatever the boot up time it's fine with me. The longest part of my bootup is the HP SureStart BIOS integrity check. Once that is done, it's only a few more seconds. I haven't done this reg tweak yet since the reformat, but I switched the bootup animation to the Windows 10 style spinning circle of dots, and it's two and a half rotations. I can live with that.

harshness

Today at 12:56 AM

EarDemon said:
Because it's what I prefer.

I hope you don't believe that makes it wonderful (especially when you're using workarounds for Microsoft's malfeasance).

I use LibreOffice as opposed to Microsoft office (even in Windows) because it's UI is like the Office of old, so I'm putting my money where my mouth is (in a manner of speaking). The ribbon was one of the worst ideas to come out Redmond.

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Former member 209992

Last reply Today at 12:38 AM · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center

Site is slooooow

For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.

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Scott Greczkowski

Yesterday at 3:39 PM

Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat.

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 3:42 PM

Scott Greczkowski said:
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat.

WTF… …What the Foxbat!

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 12:28 AM

zipping right along here

slow_poke_pete

Today at 12:29 AM

Foxbat said:
WTF… …What the Foxbat!

wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin

Foxbat

Today at 12:38 AM

slow_poke_pete said:
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you

I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

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jannah

Last reply Today at 12:33 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Purchased Joey 4 avtivate

Help, I'm a little confjused on the activation process.
I purchased the Joey 4 from Solid Signal and shipping box has Call 866 726-4282 to Avtivate new Receiver. That number is Solid Signals number.
I googled and that search said call Dish to activate. I assume that is correct unless this requires a 2 step process.
Please let me know.
Thanks

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jannah

Oct 7, 2026

All good called Dish and new Joey 4 is activated and working.
Old Joey 2 deactivated and no need to return.

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slow_poke_pete

Oct 8, 2026

jannah said:
All good called Dish and new Joey 4 is activated and working.
Old Joey 2 deactivated and no need to return.

i bought mine straight from dish as it was only $ 100.00 bucks!!! had the protection plan they came out removed and deactivated the 4k joey and activated and installed the joey 4.

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zcrayfish

Monday at 1:08 PM

Solid signal has provided the wrong number on their website to activate Dish boxes for years now.

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Nominal

Monday at 5:45 PM

I don't know if things are different with Dish but when I first rejoined DirecTV a few years ago Solid Signal was able to create my account and activate the equipment I got from them on a self-install without a truck roll.

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 12:30 AM

zcrayfish said:
Solid signal has provided the wrong number on their website to activate Dish boxes for years now.

1-800-333-3474. billing or tech support should be able to do it!!!

slow_poke_pete

Today at 12:33 AM

jannah said:
Help, I'm a little confjused on the activation process.
I purchased the Joey 4 from Solid Signal and shipping box has Call 866 726-4282 to Avtivate new Receiver. That number is Solid Signals number.
I googled and that search said call Dish to activate. I assume that is correct unless this requires a 2 step process.
Please let me know.
Thanks

just call dish and iggy the number from solid signal!!

Foxbat

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Last reply Today at 12:08 AM · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

New Apple TV 4K released, plus other Apple Home devices.

Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…

Apple TV 4K

Apple TV 4K. New Siri AI and hands-free control. Stunning picture and immersive HomePod surround sound. Works with your Apple and smart home devices.

www.apple.com

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Ronnie-

Tuesday at 9:19 PM

Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.

Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.

It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

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navychop

Tuesday at 9:31 PM

Ronnie- said:
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.

Foxbat

Wednesday at 8:59 PM

The only thing I can see that is compelling is the AV1 decoding done in the A19's hardware instead of the current ATV4K's processor.

navychop

Yesterday at 12:55 PM

Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?

KAB

Yesterday at 7:46 PM

navychop said:
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?

Not a bit. IMO, apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stick I the Apple tv's is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is not worth sticking with it. Later, Apple!

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 12:08 AM

navychop said:
Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.

they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade.. :what

. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

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jamieh1

Last reply Yesterday at 11:37 PM · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum

Directv curated multi view now live

The new curated multiview is now live.
While on many of the sports channels and non sports channels there is a multi view option button. It will pull up a side bar with many different multi view options.

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KyL416

Tuesday at 7:29 PM

It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.

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b4pjoe

Tuesday at 7:30 PM

KyL416 said:
It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.

But not on the only device they ship out right now which is the Gemini Air.

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TheRatPatrol

Yesterday at 11:37 PM

KyL416 said:
It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.

How soon will it be available on Apple TV? Thanks

Ramy

Supporting Founder

Last reply Yesterday at 10:54 PM · posted in The Sports Section

2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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Yespage

Yesterday at 4:57 PM

24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:

All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
- Independent of record too! Bonus.
MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
I'm out of ideas.

Cons

Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
- Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
Going to start resting players?
- The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
- Resting players could make games dumb.
- Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!

AZ.

Yesterday at 5:30 PM

Yespage said:
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:

All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff

Independent of record too! Bonus.

MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.

I'm out of ideas.

Cons

Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games

Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff

Going to start resting players?

The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!

Resting players could make games dumb.

Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.

How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!

One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 5:47 PM

AZ. said:
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.

There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...

AZ.

Yesterday at 9:12 PM

Jimbo said:
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...

Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....

Jimbo

Yesterday at 9:24 PM

AZ. said:
Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....

Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...
Edit, Bama plays 4, Georgia plays 3, But Ole Miss plays 5 (didn't expect to see that)

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.

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AZ.

Yesterday at 9:27 PM

Jimbo said:
Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.

Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?

Jimbo

Yesterday at 10:07 PM

AZ. said:
Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?

Seeing theres very little activity in the MLB threads, it wouldn't matter if I posted that the Astros didn't make the Playoffs ...

Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 10:54 PM

IF they go to 24 teams, and it looks like they will soon ....
Do we Really want Teams with 3 and 4 losses in the Playoffs ?
Is a 3-4 Loss team one thats able to win 4-5 more games against Top teams ?

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