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Last reply Dec 26, 2016 · posted in Cable Television and Fiber Providers

Comcast deemed not at fault by Indianapolis PD

Indiana experienced a snowfall which made this particular road icy.
Comcast techs blocked one travel lane. According to local authorities, the workers used OSHA Best Practices properly and deemed the company not at fault for the several vehicle crashes
http://www.fiercecable.com/cable/comcast-not-at-fault-icy-pile-up-indy-police-say?utm_medium=nl&utm_source=internal&mrkid=4635959&mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiTmpVeVpUQTJaamRqTmpNMiIsInQiOiI1QklHUXBRUXNwenRmcWVZdHNUY1I0Z2RTUnBqNUJXMElQbVY2RVBuUGViU3ZHbXExN3Fhbko4Z3JoYlZTTVJSWHgwSGVWTFRJZkY4U1FPK3V6RFR4ZlAzSEM0NURHemJXbzJ1SXlQWEY1MjlabEdURVExXC9jVHlZem5VNU5janQifQ==
From where I sit,the techs while adhering to guidelines, ignored common sense and went forward with their work.
But for the presence of the Comcast vehicles, none of these incidents would have occurred.
There is a video in the link....The techs seemed oblivious to the vehicle wrecks around them and were not very pleasant to the public.
I think the company can expect lawsuits or at least subrogation letters from insurance carriers.
I would also sue the techs, jointly and severally as they made the decision to work when road conditions were hazardous which created even larger hazards.
Now, that is not to say some of the drivers were traveling too fast. Such as the person driving the pickup truck that rear ended a motorist that was using great caution.
If it were my job, I would have called dispatch to ask them to summon police presence until the work was completed. That would have been the right thing to do

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Juan

Dec 20, 2016

dishcomm said:
The cable guys were not technically at fault. However, they should have recognized the potential hazards of the adverse road conditions, the fact that they were working just over the crest of a hill.
TV and internet is NOT that important.

Telephone service is..I think you need to reevaluate your comments

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dishcomm

Dec 20, 2016

Juan_ said:
Telephone service is..I think you need to reevaluate your comments

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The majority of people in urban ad suburban areas have cell phones.....
I'm not reevaluating anything...This was a safety and common sense issue.
The repairs can wait.

Juan

Dec 21, 2016

dishcomm said:
The majority of people in urban ad suburban areas have cell phones.....
I'm not reevaluating anything...This was a safety and common sense issue.
The repairs can wait.

Do you know how cell phones work?..they connect to land line trunks similar to the one Comcast was working on

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Radioguy41

Dec 22, 2016

dishcomm said:
Indiana experienced a snowfall which made this particular road icy.
Comcast techs blocked one travel lane. According to local authorities, the workers used OSHA Best Practices properly and deemed the company not at fault for the several vehicle crashes

Following legal guidelines that don't apply to current conditions doesn't make you blameless. I don't care how important you think telephone service may be, it doesn't excuse ignoring common sense and putting people's lives at unnecessary risk. It's obvious Comcast knew early enough about the line issue and the weather conditions to make safety arrangments but failed to do so. In a court of law that's culpability, OSHA rules adherence or not.

Juan

Dec 22, 2016

jeepguy said:
Following legal guidelines that don't apply to current conditions doesn't make you blameless. I don't care how important you think telephone service may be, it doesn't excuse ignoring common sense and putting people's lives at unnecessary risk. It's obvious Comcast knew early enough about the line issue and the weather conditions to make safety arrangments but failed to do so. In a court of law that's culpability, OSHA rules adherence or not.

Are they supposed to walk off the job?..get fired?..they did nothing wrong..they followed the rules..no charges filed..just a bunch of clueless snowflakes who don't know how to drive..people who can't take personal responsibility for their own actions..always have to blame someone or something else for their own misfortune because they can't drive in the snow

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dishcomm

Dec 25, 2016

Juan_ said:
Do you know how cell phones work?..they connect to land line trunks similar to the one Comcast was working on

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Nice try.
I was merely pointing out the fact that more people than not are dropping their land line and digital tel service in lieu of wireless.
So let me know when you want to crash your car because some cable guy who created a major traffic hazard because he "was just doing his job"....
I'm not implying the crew did not have the right to be there to perform their work. I am stating that they should have taken additional precautions due to the adverse weather and road conditions.
This was no time to be citing OSHA minimum regulations and company rules.
As a company acting as a public utility for phone access only, they should have taken the time to ensure the safety of the public.
They did not. IMO the judge in this case had interpreted the laws differently.
I'm not arguing. Just presenting another point of view.
There will be insurance claims. There will be subrogation actions against Comcast. That despite the judge's opinion. There will be lawsuits against Comcast which they WILL to avaoid costly legal fees, settle with the plaintiffs.
Unfortunately this is how the civil system works.

Juan

Dec 25, 2016

dishcomm said:
Nice try.
I was merely pointing out the fact that more people than not are dropping their land line and digital tel service in lieu of wireless.
So let me know when you want to crash your car because some cable guy who created a major traffic hazard because he "was just doing his job"....
I'm not implying the crew did not have the right to be there to perform their work. I am stating that they should have taken additional precautions due to the adverse weather and road conditions.
This was no time to be citing OSHA minimum regulations and company rules.
As a company acting as a public utility for phone access only, they should have taken the time to ensure the safety of the public.
They did not. IMO the judge in this case had interpreted the laws differently.
I'm not arguing. Just presenting another point of view.
There will be insurance claims. There will be subrogation actions against Comcast. That despite the judge's opinion. There will be lawsuits against Comcast which they WILL to avaoid costly legal fees, settle with the plaintiffs.
Unfortunately this is how the civil system works.

He can't abandon without permission..do you have a job?..ask your boss what he thinks

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dishcomm

Dec 25, 2016

Juan_ said:
Are they supposed to walk off the job?..get fired?..they did nothing wrong..they followed the rules..no charges filed..just a bunch of clueless snowflakes who don't know how to drive..people who can't take personal responsibility for their own actions..always have to blame someone or something else for their own misfortune because they can't drive in the snow

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Just a minute. So, you are driving 15 or 20 mph in the snow. You crest a hill and notice that about 400 feet away your travel lane is blocked. You apply the brakes, due to the ice and snow, your ability to control the vehicle is compromised. You crash.
In the video this was the majority of the cases. Slow slide down the hill. Now, there were those driving too fast for conditions. No one is considering them. They are at fault..
Forget the minimum standards. These do not apply hazardous weather and road conditions. Additional precautions should have been made.
The job? The job can wait until the hazard has been mitigated. All that needed to be done was to either place a flag man at the top of the hill and one just beyond the service vehicles. They could have asked the police to block off the road until the repairs were completed. They could have asked the city road department to send a truck to treat the road surface.
No, these guys who were concerned only with themselves, did nothing but cite OSHA regulations and use snarky responses to the concerned.. People were placed in harms way. Including themselves. Suppose there was a serious injury or heaven forbid a fatality? Would you have the same cavalier attitude? Suppose it were one of your loved ones?
Lemme tell ya something, I HATE the litigiousness of our society. People suing because their neighbor smokes cigars on his front porch. Stupid crap like that.
My take on this was the situation and the existing hazards called for more precautions than just the standard. If were their boss, I would have fired them for doing their job in the manner in which they did it. It was in my opinion inadequate.

Juan

Dec 25, 2016

dishcomm said:
Just a minute. So, you are driving 15 or 20 mph in the snow. You crest a hill and notice that about 400 feet away your travel lane is blocked. You apply the brakes, due to the ice and snow, your ability to control the vehicle is compromised. You crash.
In the video this was the majority of the cases. Slow slide down the hill. Now, there were those driving too fast for conditions. No one is considering them. They are at fault..
Forget the minimum standards. These do not apply hazardous weather and road conditions. Additional precautions should have been made.
The job? The job can wait until the hazard has been mitigated. All that needed to be done was to either place a flag man at the top of the hill and one just beyond the service vehicles. They could have asked the police to block off the road until the repairs were completed. They could have asked the city road department to send a truck to treat the road surface.
No, these guys who were concerned only with themselves, did nothing but cite OSHA regulations and use snarky responses to the concerned.. People were placed in harms way. Including themselves. Suppose there was a serious injury or heaven forbid a fatality? Would you have the same cavalier attitude? Suppose it were one of your loved ones?
Lemme tell ya something, I HATE the litigiousness of our society. People suing because their neighbor smokes cigars on his front porch. Stupid crap like that.
My take on this was the situation and the existing hazards called for more precautions than just the standard. If were their boss, I would have fired them for doing their job in the manner in which they did it. It was in my opinion inadequate.

I guess you never worked for a utility..that's how it is
.besides police said they were aok

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dishcomm

Dec 25, 2016

Juan_ said:
He can't abandon without permission..do you have a job?..ask your boss what he thinks

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Who said anything about "abandoning" the job. I neither stated nor implied that.
I just got through stating this was not an argument, but me merely stating a point of view.
What part of that did you not understand?
No, I don't have a job. I am self employed. And my boss thinks that for this instance the standard precautions were inadequate. My boss says he recommends additional safety precautions would be warranted and he would have backed me up on that point.

Juan

Dec 25, 2016

dishcomm said:
Who said anything about "abandoning" the job. I neither stated nor implied that.
I just got through stating this was not an argument, but me merely stating a point of view.
What part of that did you not understand?
No, I don't have a job. I am self employed. And my boss thinks that for this instance the standard precautions were inadequate. My boss says he recommends additional safety precautions would be warranted and he would have backed me up on that point.

That's cool
.would you feel the same way if it was a Telco or power company truck?

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dishcomm

Dec 25, 2016

Juan_ said:
I guess you never worked for a utility..that's how it is
.besides police said they were aok

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Yeah. The cops said that because they have political and liability concerns as well.
"you didn't ask" .....Think about THAT. What would you think if I stated if the police were asked to provide a patrol car to assist, they would have obliged?
BTW, the police have no say here. That's why we have legal professionals.
Remember this. In the story the Comcast spokesperson stated their internal investigation into the matter is not complete.
My guess is that Comcast thinks that because the local PD rendered an opinion siding with the company that it come as no surprise that both those techs are no longer with the company. They were probably offered an opportunity to self terminate with some kind of severance package with the stipulation that they were not to engage an attorney in any action against the Company, nor were they to engage any plaintiff's attorney or testify in a deposition or trial as a witness against the company...
Again, that is a guess. If you think this scenario has never played out before, think again.
It is my opinion, that those two techs are not going to get through this unscathed. JMHO....

Juan

Dec 25, 2016

dishcomm said:
Yeah. The cops said that because they have political and liability concerns as well.
"you didn't ask" .....Think about THAT. What would you think if I stated if the police were asked to provide a patrol car to assist, they would have obliged?
BTW, the police have no say here. That's why we have legal professionals.
Remember this. In the story the Comcast spokesperson stated their internal investigation into the matter is not complete.
My guess is that Comcast thinks that because the local PD rendered an opinion siding with the company that it come as no surprise that both those techs are no longer with the company. They were probably offered an opportunity to self terminate with some kind of severance package with the stipulation that they were not to engage an attorney in any action against the Company, nor were they to engage any plaintiff's attorney or testify in a deposition or trial as a witness against the company...
Again, that is a guess. If you think this scenario has never played out before, think again.
It is my opinion, that those two techs are not going to get through this unscathed. JMHO....

They have to do what their boss wants them to do..they can't walk away from a a job without consequences..your world is different than theirs..

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dishcomm

Dec 25, 2016

Juan_ said:
That's cool
.would you feel the same way if it was a Telco or power company truck?

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yes. Absolutely. Safety is safety.
The way I see it is if a company is occupying a public roadway, they owe it to the public to ensure reasonable and proper safety precautions proportionate to the conditions at hand are taken.
For example. Road crews, landscape companies performing work for the municipality or state, always use flag people to control traffic. Same goes for power companies working on cables overhead. The telcos ( AT&T or Windstream) do so as well....As does Spectrum( Fmr Time Warner)..
You misunderstand. This is not a "cable thing" where I am adding additional scrutiny due to some perceived anti Comcast thing....Not at all. I guess any personal bias here is the crappy attitude of the Comcast techs. The one guy that arrived later in the video was a a-hole. What he forgets is he as a representative of Comcast should be presenting a professional image while on duty. It should not matter the circumstances. While in uniform performing his duties, he is representing his employer.
if were his manager I would have terminated him or asked for his resignation based on that fact alone.
IN my past occupations as a manager/supervisory person, the workers on my crews represented ME. Just as I acted as a representative for my employer. If my crew or a member of said crew act in a way that cast me in a bad light, that crew member is going to get anything from a stern warning up to either voluntary or involuntary termination.
In other words, you don't ever make me look bad in front of the customer or the general public.

dishcomm

Dec 25, 2016

Juan_ said:
They have to do what their boss wants them to do..they can't walk away from a a job without consequences..your world is different than theirs..

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We both do not know the circumstances of any communications between the techs and their supervisors.

Juan

Dec 25, 2016

dishcomm said:
yes. Absolutely. Safety is safety.
The way I see it is if a company is occupying a public roadway, they owe it to the public to ensure reasonable and proper safety precautions proportionate to the conditions at hand are taken.
For example. Road crews, landscape companies performing work for the municipality or state, always use flag people to control traffic. Same goes for power companies working on cables overhead. The telcos ( AT&T or Windstream) do so as well....As does Spectrum( Fmr Time Warner)..
You misunderstand. This is not a "cable thing" where I am adding additional scrutiny due to some perceived anti Comcast thing....Not at all. I guess any personal bias here is the crappy attitude of the Comcast techs. The one guy that arrived later in the video was a a-hole. What he forgets is he as a representative of Comcast should be presenting a professional image while on duty. It should not matter the circumstances. While in uniform performing his duties, he is representing his employer.
if were his manager I would have terminated him or asked for his resignation based on that fact alone.
IN my past occupations as a manager/supervisory person, the workers on my crews represented ME. Just as I acted as a representative for my employer. If my crew or a member of said crew act in a way that cast me in a bad light, that crew member is going to get anything from a stern warning up to either voluntary or involuntary termination.
In other words, you don't ever make me look bad in front of the customer or the general public.

You follow the rules
.Comcast did that

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Juan

Dec 25, 2016

dishcomm said:
We both do not know the circumstances of any communications between the techs and their supervisors.

Don't really have to

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Juan

Dec 25, 2016

Merry Christmas dishcomm!! And have a happy and safe New Year

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Stargazer

Dec 26, 2016

The video is making its rounds on Facebook. Pretty shocking video of what happened. They need something similar to road work signs in the future to help prevent this from happening again. I almost hit a fire truck around a blind curve earlier this year and others complained as well that I spoke to not having warning before the turn. Power line went down and had to drive off the road to avoid it.

harshness

Dec 26, 2016

dishcomm said:
You apply the brakes, due to the ice and snow, your ability to control the vehicle is compromised. You crash.

The bigger question here is whether or not you really needed to be out driving in such conditions.

Self-importance can be a very dangerous affliction.

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Price Increase on Owned Equipment?

Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.

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zippyfrog

27 minutes ago

Never mind - according to chat, it seems like there is a glitch in their website. The prices for owned receivers are still $5.00.

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However, when I make a change (tried to add the Columbian pack for $2 so I could generate my bill) and there is a new line - it says "Access for TV" - whereas previously that line item was not there. I hope they aren't charging $5.00 for the initial TV now...

telstar_1

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Apparently it's not an "owned receiver" fee but rather an extension fee that's applied to 2nd and subsequent viewing. Maybe that played into their decision to force a box at every TV- garnering those fees

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I have gone ahead and enabled it, and am told it may take anywhere from 90 minutes to 24 hours for it to take effect.

Hopefully doing this does not harm the site in any way. (It shouldn't) but if it does, you will then know why and I will revert the settings.

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Tapatalk Removed

Due to security concerns and the fact that the Tapatalk Plugin for Xenforo is no longer being updated we have removed Tapatalk support from SatelliteGuys.

For those who were using it we recommend using our PWA App instead which is faster and does not have all the spam Tapatalk had. Below is a graphic showing how to add SatelliteGuys to your devices home screen. (While iOS is shown the process is mostly the same for Android.)

Thanks for your understanding.

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 9:28 AM

Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…

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Yesterday at 10:19 PM

Foxbat said:
Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…

What is PWA app? PWA utilities seem to be a Spanish app. I hope you are seeing this since nothing seems to be working. I will miss SatelliteGuys. Tapatalk worked well. The Siri browser doesn't seem to work well.

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Foxbat said:
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Hooray!

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Today at 12:29 AM

dweber said:
What is PWA app? PWA utilities seem to be a Spanish app. I hope you are seeing this since nothing seems to be working. I will miss SatelliteGuys. Tapatalk worked well. The Siri browser doesn't seem to work well.

Do you mean the safari browser?

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Foxbat

Today at 3:22 AM

dweber said:
What is PWA app? PWA utilities seem to be a Spanish app. I hope you are seeing this since nothing seems to be working. I will miss SatelliteGuys. Tapatalk worked well. The Siri browser doesn't seem to work well.

Actually, PWA stands for "Progressive Web Application" and is basically just saving a site's homepage to your desktop where it appears as an "App" with the rest of your smartphone's Apps.

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Scott Greczkowski

Today at 9:18 AM

A PWA is a custom version of SatelliteGuys which is optimized for mobile devices. While it may look like the website, its actually different so that only the files needed for mobile are sent, meaning its a much faster experience all around.

TapaTalk is essentially dead. It was written for PHP 5.4 and we are now running PHP 8.4. There have been a LOT of PHP security updates since then and since Tapatalk for Xenforo has not been updated in a long long time it is not the safest idea to keep running it.

In addition those trying to view the site on their mobile devices using a browser were getting spammed on the top of the screen for people to install TapaTalk, this ad in some cases would take up 20% of the users screen. We could get rid of that ad but we would have to pay $20 a month to get rid of it.

In addition TapaTalk could and was inserting their own ads on SatelliteGuys in the app which only benefitted them, SatelliteGuys was not paid for those ads they were displaying on our site. Again we could pay to get rid of those ads.

And here was the cost of the Premium Tier.

Now to make matters worse Tapatalk recently announced that they are going to start charging users of the app 99 cents a month to continue using it.

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/tapatalksupport/our-mobile-app-is-transitioning-to-a-paid-model-t48360.html#p261675

So soon you would be paying them each month to access SatelliteGuys via their app, again all the money going to them... and you would still see all their ads too.

Tapatalk was a great program which we run for many many years, and for a long time we DID pay for the premium tier. But now with such a small offset using it (My numbers show a total of 6 members) it wasn't work paying for any longer.

In addition Tapatalk was sold to a different owner who made lots of promises of improvements and updates but then that owner has been really radio silent since, instead they have been letting TapaTalk rot on the vine.

If you visit their support forum at https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/tapatalksupport/ you will see there is not much going on, in fact most of the support questions posted there go unanswered.

Please give the PWA a try, I was a die hard Tapatalk user myself but now only use the PWA on devices. It is a much better all around experience, with no bloatware or additional ads based on your user membership level.

I don't have an android phone so I could not make a graphic showing you how to add SatelliteGuys PWA to your phones apps or home screen. But here is a site that explains how to do it on all kinds of devices. How to Install a PWA on iOS, Android, Windows & Mac [2025 Guide]

The above link also explains PWA's better as well.

If Tapatalk were to update their plugins so we know we are more secure and up to date and allow us to remove the "Smart Banner" without having to pay $20 a month, we would consider adding it back. I don't even care about their ads, as if a user wants to use their app and is willing to sit through their ads in order to use that app then I am ok with it.

But hopefully that explains better why it was removed. It was not done to cut anyone off from the site.

Please give the PWA a try.

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NYDutch

Today at 10:09 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
A PWA is a custom version of SatelliteGuys which is optimized for mobile devices. While it may look like the website, its actually different so that only the files needed for mobile are sent, meaning its a much faster experience all around.

TapaTalk is essentially dead. It was written for PHP 5.4 and we are now running PHP 8.4. There have been a LOT of PHP security updates since then and since Tapatalk for Xenforo has not been updated in a long long time it is not the safest idea to keep running it.

In addition those trying to view the site on their mobile devices using a browser were getting spammed on the top of the screen for people to install TapaTalk, this ad in some cases would take up 20% of the users screen. We could get rid of that ad but we would have to pay $20 a month to get rid of it.

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In addition TapaTalk could and was inserting their own ads on SatelliteGuys in the app which only benefitted them, SatelliteGuys was not paid for those ads they were displaying on our site. Again we could pay to get rid of those ads.

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And here was the cost of the Premium Tier.

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Now to make matters worse Tapatalk recently announced that they are going to start charging users of the app 99 cents a month to continue using it.

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https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/tapatalksupport/our-mobile-app-is-transitioning-to-a-paid-model-t48360.html#p261675

So soon you would be paying them each month to access SatelliteGuys via their app, again all the money going to them... and you would still see all their ads too.

Tapatalk was a great program which we run for many many years, and for a long time we DID pay for the premium tier. But now with such a small offset using it (My numbers show a total of 6 members) it wasn't work paying for any longer.

In addition Tapatalk was sold to a different owner who made lots of promises of improvements and updates but then that owner has been really radio silent since, instead they have been letting TapaTalk rot on the vine.

If you visit their support forum at https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/tapatalksupport/ you will see there is not much going on, in fact most of the support questions posted there go unanswered.

Please give the PWA a try, I was a die hard Tapatalk user myself but now only use the PWA on devices. It is a much better all around experience, with no bloatware or additional ads based on your user membership level.

I don't have an android phone so I could not make a graphic showing you how to add SatelliteGuys PWA to your phones apps or home screen. But here is a site that explains how to do it on all kinds of devices. How to Install a PWA on iOS, Android, Windows & Mac [2025 Guide]

The above link also explains PWA's better as well.

If Tapatalk were to update their plugins so we know we are more secure and up to date and allow us to remove the "Smart Banner" without having to pay $20 a month, we would consider adding it back. I don't even care about their ads, as if a user wants to use their app and is willing to sit through their ads in order to use that app then I am ok with it.

But hopefully that explains better why it was removed. It was not done to cut anyone off from the site. Please give the PWA a try.

I just installed the PWA on my Android phone. It was pretty easy to do, and now I'm posting this from my phone. Thanks, Scott!

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 9:49 AM · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center

SatelliteGuys Fund Raiser

As you may have noticed we are doing a Fund Raiser for SatelliteGuys!

As many of you know I have been paying for a majority of the operation of the site out of my own pocket for awhile now. Now looking at things we have a number of renewals coming up that I could use some help with. These renewals include the license renewal for our Forum Software, Renewal of a number of our add on's the site uses, renewal of domain names etc.

I have set a goal of $400.00 - any extra that comes in will just go to fund the operations of the site. None of the money will go to me (I tried BuyMeACoffee a few months ago, and they denied me saying they do not do business with Satellite Piracy sites... which we are not... hell we host the beta programs for both DISH and DIRECTV here...)

Anyways... if you would like to help out please click the link below.

SatelliteGuys Maintenance Fund Raiser

www.satelliteguys.us

Thank you in advance.

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Scott Greczkowski

Tuesday at 8:19 PM

I planned on removing it today, but then my fathers car broke down and I had to drive him all around to get his stuff done. Then I had a doctors appointment after that which was annoying...

Dr asks me if I have had any changes, so I tell him something wrong with me that started a month or so ago and his reply back is, that it sucks to get old... I hate that. Why ask me. if your going to come back with a smart ass answer.

Anyays I hope to get rid of Tapatalk tomorrow.

And we had more people donate today, thank you! The extra money is going to future expenses since things like add ons don't expire at the same time.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU AGAIN!

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telstar_1

Tuesday at 11:26 PM

Yeah, dr's...joint pain? Your joints are wearing out. It hurts when I do this...don't do that

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comfortably_numb

Yesterday at 7:58 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
Dr asks me if I have had any changes, so I tell him something wrong with me that started a month or so ago and his reply back is, that it sucks to get old

No excuse for a flippant response like that from a doctor! I'd be looking for a different one.

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Scott Greczkowski

Yesterday at 9:10 AM

Tapatalk has been removed.

I have added a new feature which is a work in progress called "Social Feed" which displays the forums Facebook style. Its nice for people who like that, but needs work. But i have been watching this one for awhile and the author is being really responsive to suggestions and adding them. So if you have any please let me know and I can pass them along.

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navychop

Yesterday at 10:14 AM

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Scott Greczkowski

Today at 9:49 AM

We got more kind donations yesterday! Again a very big thank you to everyone for your support!

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dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply Today at 8:58 AM · posted in The Sports Section

Auto Racing 2026

New thread or keep this one?

View: https://www.youtube.com/live/AgOI9DNCmPg?si=l-YcZmHl7GXXF8fX

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Foxbat

Sunday at 8:20 PM

Awesome pictures, Yespage! Thanks!

I caught the end of the four hour race on YouTube so I wasn't "spoiled", but got to see the exciting last lap action in the TCR division!

Yespage

Sunday at 8:30 PM

Foxbat said:
Awesome pictures, Yespage! Thanks!

I caught the end of the four hour race on YouTube so I wasn't "spoiled", but got to see the exciting last lap action in the TCR division!

I heard on the radio, after the final pitstop, Turner Motorsport were resigned to second place. 'You're in second. Don't worry about it. First is McLaren, we aren't catching them.'

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Yespage

Tuesday at 7:48 AM

Caught up to the 500... err... k in St. Louis. What a race! Andretti Motorsport were doing very well with Ericsson and Kirkwood, meanwhile Power was moving up the grid. Veekay started cautiously. He was working the tires just right, becoming more lethal later in the stint. Rasmussen was racing likewise, not nearly as insane as he has in the past. Palou was leading the race, in a shocker to all. Caio Collet was having a wonderful ride, making Ferucci potentially sweat a bit. Rain came, rain went, rain came, rain went. Generally mild sprinkles, but enough to pause racing on an oval.

Palou would kind of send Siegel into the wall. Siegel really didn't do much wrong. As he noted, you have to turn at some point. Palou had acres of room below and Siegel might have had his ticket out of Indycar stamped. Dixon was doing the fuel thing and got busted twice by yellows, not pitting before the flag came out. Then the most critical happened... Palou ran out of gas on pit lane, effectively giving Newgarden the race lead and win. Newgarden had a very early pit, so he was able to slide in, get service and go. Meanwhile, everyone else was confused and stuck behind Palou for a bit. Once people figured what was happening, Newgarden had a major advantage of several seconds. Newgarden wouldn't look back and when it went green again, he'd hold the lead for the win.

Massive credit to Juncos Hollinger who bested Penske in getting Veekay out before Malukas in a transition that was oddly bizarre. I haven't had time to check, but I'm wondering if Veekay was about to run out of fuel or cut a tire. He was charging late in a stint, got up to fifth, and then tailed back for a few laps to 10th or 11th. It looked like it was over. Went into the pits, and after the pitting sequence was over, Veekay was well inside the top ten again. It was weird. And he charged, getting up to fourth. He made a late move on Rasmussen, but Rasmussen held his position with some great driving. In fact, there was a ton of incredible racing passing, not passing all race long. Veekay would finish 4th. A podium would have been awesome, but it is a great outcome for a guy who hopefully will get a break with a big team. We saw what Veekay could do with a Honda last season with fuel save, imagine replacing Simpson on Ganassi and having speed to go with fuel saving. His 6th at Indy and 4th at St. Louis get him up to 13th in the points standings and only 5 points outside of the top 10.

Ericsson finished second, resigned to finishing behind the current best in the world guy on a short oval. Rasmussen got the final step on the podium, a nice rebound to what has been an otherwise bad year for him, and a good reward to ECR who just extended his contract.

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osu1991

Tuesday at 7:52 PM

View: https://youtu.be/YAAIvsFs5AU

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Yespage

Yesterday at 9:09 AM

They raced USAC cars at Daytona once. Once! People died. Aj Foyt said 'f this', and left after the first go around. AJ freaking Foyt thought it was crazy! And cars weren't nearly as fast as they are now.

I think they tried Talladega once too.

Yespage

Today at 8:58 AM

LeMans qualifying on going. WEC has d9ne a great job expanding the automotive company entries. Even without Porsche, a large nunber of manufacturers.

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TFLEV

Today at 7:12 AM · posted in TFLEV

How the Heck Do You Tell the NEW 2027 Rivian R2 from the R1? I Compare Both Side-By-Side!

Time for another AWESOME video from TFL Electric Vehicles!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7CB6m89_RY

Direct YouTube Link - How the Heck Do You Tell the NEW 2027 Rivian R2 from the R1? I Compare Both Side-By-Side!

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Peter Parker

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 6:53 AM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Brave Browser for Androud

I have had good experiences with Brave but lately I am frustrated with it.

Now when I launch the app it shows a box at the bottom asking if I want to go back to the last opened page. It is in conveniently located and I would prefer to eliminate it.

Does anyone know how to do this?

Please let's not sidetrack the discussion into an exploration of why I don't care for it or a lecture about all the wonderful aspects of the feature. I just do not care for it.

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b4pjoe

Yesterday at 7:50 PM

I don't have an Android phone so I don't know if this will apply to the Brave settings on your android device but it works on the desktop for me.

Change this setting to either startup to a different website or a new tab page. I have mine set to open to google.com instead of where I left off and it doesn't ask me at the next startup if I want to open the last opened page unless it crashed.

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Peter Parker

Yesterday at 9:27 PM

b4pjoe said:
I don't have an Android phone so I don't know if this will apply to the Brave settings on your android device but it works on the desktop for me.

Change this setting to either startup to a different website or a new tab page. I have mine set to open to google.com instead of where I left off and it doesn't ask me at the next startup if I want to open the last opened page unless it crashed.

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Thank you for trying to help. However thrse choices do not appear in Android. There is a setting for "New Tab Pages" that is similar but does not include your choice. I have tried all of the existing entries with no success

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Juan

Today at 6:53 AM

Something like this maybe

Option 2: Set a custom Home button URL

Click the menu icon in the top-right corner and select Settings.
Click on Appearance in the left sidebar.
Toggle on the Show home button switch.
Under the home button settings, select the option to Enter custom web address and type in your preferred website. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

BlackHitachi

Supporting Founder

Last reply Today at 6:26 AM · posted in Movie Talk

Last & Next Movie Watched

Since the Reds have there thread we should too!

Last watched Nine inch Nails
Next 3:10 to Yuma

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osu1991

Saturday at 9:48 PM

Rooster Cogburn.

Keep forgetting the free movies on youtube are ad free with my premium subscription.

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dfergie

Sunday at 8:42 AM

osu1991 said:
Rooster Cogburn.

Keep forgetting the free movies on youtube are ad free with my premium subscription.

There are some really good movies on youtube.
Saving Private Ryan 4k, Dolby Atmos...

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harshness

Tuesday at 9:58 AM

dfergie said:
Saving Private Ryan 4k, Dolby Atmos...

These are severely limited. Getting better than stereo audio is improving, but still has a long way to go.

dfergie

Tuesday at 10:07 AM

harshness said:
These are severely limited. Getting better than stereo audio is improving, but still has a long way to go.

I went with my 4k disc after checking out that version.

osu1991

Yesterday at 9:56 PM

View: https://youtu.be/I68627xyDPA?is=gUZB0Yv_08pE0DR3

Tonight revisiting one of my favorites. Ranks up there with Star Wars, Raiders of the Lost Ark and Hunt For Red October.

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dfergie

Yesterday at 10:45 PM

Watching Monterey Pop, been awhile, had the DVD, but probably lost in the fire 10.5 years ago. HBOmax

"MysteryMan"

Today at 6:26 AM

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