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ken2400
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I have had some Discq switchs go on me and I am looking for a good Discq switch.

Any ideas?

Thanks
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I lost a port on a 4-way DiSEqC due to a momentary short caused by me changing an lnbf with the system active. A voltmeter proved that port 4 would not pass DC power to the lnbf. Inside, I found a tiny surface mount dual transistor that had failed. I replaced it with a part robbed from another DiSEqC switch that died in a worse way. While troubleshooting to narrow down what exactly was damaged inside the switch, I discovered another problem. Port 1, 2, 3, appeared to function normally when addressed. However, port 2 and 3 would continue passing some power to an lnbf even when another port was addressed and active. About 5 volts continued to flow into the lnbf's on those ports, contributing to an invisible additional current drain. In some borderline situations the total current draw can lead to instability, depending upon how complicated the system and length /quality of cable. Obviously, when using port 1 or port 4 on my switch, the semi-active state of port 2 and 3 would be reducing the available current required for proper operation of a dish positioner and/or cascaded 4-way switches. I see a real need for a simple device for testing DiSEqC switches.

I hope this information helps someone experiencing trouble with blind scans and command related hardware malfunctions. There is no current limiting protection inside these switches. All it takes is a brief short on the center wire of the coax while connecting to the lnbf. You may not notice anything was damaged, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. Each of the four ports is isolated from the other, DC and RF(lnbf IF), at all times. In my situation, the DC switching failed on three ports-- one totally, the other two partially. There are also PIN diodes that pass the RF from the lnbf selected. Damage along this component chain will cause a drop in signal strength due to RF loss, directly and adjacently. But, it takes unfriendly voltage surges, not shorts, to damage those devices. I've only had one DiSEqC switch suffer lightning damage that completely fried one port, RF and DC, and the command chip, but it left me three good ports with spare part RF and DC switching components. Why bother to analyze and repair such cheap devices? Because, I can. And, I'm working on modifying a Dishnet SW-21 switch so I can use it with my Pansat, as a 22K switch. I may actually watch TV sometime. A hate the fact that this is a throw-away society, but I sure benefit from all the discarded equipment in a major way. I just acquired a very nice 2 meter composite KU dish w/Norsat lnbf that the commercial property owner was glad to see go. This is a great hobby on many interesting levels!

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ken2400
I wonder if I disconnect the cable from the receiver, do my cable switching, then connect the receiver back up if it would help keep the switch from dieing.

I have one now that has a port out.

Thanks for info.

sidha said:
I lost a port on a 4-way DiSEqC due to a momentary short caused by me changing an lnbf with the system active. A voltmeter proved that port 4 would not pass DC power to the lnbf. Inside, I found a tiny surface mount dual transistor that had failed. I replaced it with a part robbed from another DiSEqC switch that died in a worse way. While troubleshooting to narrow down what exactly was damaged inside the switch, I discovered another problem. Port 1, 2, 3, appeared to function normally when addressed. However, port 2 and 3 would continue passing some power to an lnbf even when another port was addressed and active. About 5 volts continued to flow into the lnbf's on those ports, contributing to an invisible additional current drain. In some borderline situations the total current draw can lead to instability, depending upon how complicated the system and length /quality of cable. Obviously, when using port 1 or port 4 on my switch, the semi-active state of port 2 and 3 would be reducing the available current required for proper operation of a dish positioner and/or cascaded 4-way switches. I see a real need for a simple device for testing DiSEqC switches.

I hope this information helps someone experiencing trouble with blind scans and command related hardware malfunctions. There is no current limiting protection inside these switches. All it takes is a brief short on the center wire of the coax while connecting to the lnbf. You may not notice anything was damaged, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. Each of the four ports is isolated from the other, DC and RF(lnbf IF), at all times. In my situation, the DC switching failed on three ports-- one totally, the other two partially. There are also PIN diodes that pass the RF from the lnbf selected. Damage along this component chain will cause a drop in signal strength due to RF loss, directly and adjacently. But, it takes unfriendly voltage surges, not shorts, to damage those devices. I've only had one DiSEqC switch suffer lightning damage that completely fried one port, RF and DC, and the command chip, but it left me three good ports with spare part RF and DC switching components. Why bother to analyze and repair such cheap devices? Because, I can. And, I'm working on modifying a Dishnet SW-21 switch so I can use it with my Pansat, as a 22K switch. I may actually watch TV sometime. A hate the fact that this is a throw-away society, but I sure benefit from all the discarded equipment in a major way. I just acquired a very nice 2 meter composite KU dish w/Norsat lnbf that the commercial property owner was glad to see go. This is a great hobby on many interesting levels!

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yes that would work. Also you could power it off by switch if you have a receiver that does that

PC card would be to shut off the computer
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ken2400 said:
I wonder if I disconnect the cable from the receiver, do my cable switching, then connect the receiver back up if it would help keep the switch from dieing.

I have one now that has a port out.

Thanks for info.


If you must reconnect coax while the line to/from the system remains active, do so only at the output ports of the switch to minimize the opportunity for a destructive short due to an exposed coax center wire delivering voltage from the switch to the edge of an lnbf F-fitting or nearby metal. Steady hands and a good aim are required.

-sidha
sikma
I wish I would have read this post a few weeks ago, I'm having trouble with one of my sats. (plugged into port 3) of freezing on vertical channels. I'm afraid I've damaged port 3 by plugging and unplugging while reaiming (moving my buckets) my *P dishes.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

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Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

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Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:

Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
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Jeeez, Week 6, no lead is safe…
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No idea what improvements might be involved.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
long_time_Dish
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
Almighty1
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
navychop
it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
🤣

Oh....you were serious
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Hondo is back with a new squad 9/25 only on Starz.


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Never watched the previous shows, so doubtful.
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Started watching yesterday. Not too bad.
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I like Zyra from La Brea (one with the prosthetic).
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Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
osu1991
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
long_time_Dish
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.
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