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Gobucks
According to most on the Dish board all services raise those fees. That is their main comeback when people talk about Dish fees.

Do you really think they will never raise fees again because of bundling?

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Jimbo
According to most on the Dish board all services raise those fees. That is their main comeback when people talk about Dish fees.

Do you really think they will never raise fees again because of bundling?

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Everyone raises the prices most of the time yearly .... suppose to cover cost of programming or new equipment ....
Gobucks
Everyone raises the prices most of the time yearly .... suppose to cover cost of programming or new equipment ....
I just don't get how box fees keep going up when electronics go down in price year to year. Then the DVR fee goes up. I get why programming goes up but fees can be controlled.
S
I just don't get how box fees keep going up when electronics go down in price year to year. Then the DVR fee goes up. I get why programming goes up but fees can be controlled.
This is one of the changes I'm really hoping the streaming services are able to drive within the industry - fees are absolutely out of control.

For 2 TVs, a Genie DVR, and HD - you're at $30 in fees with DirecTV before you've even put a single dollar towards programming. On Vue that same $30 gets you 45 channels (all in HD by default), DVR, and up to 5 simultaneous streams. That's one big thing the streaming services (Vue, Sling, DTVN, etc) have going for them -- you know you're going to pay the price you see (+tax) and nothing more. All this breaking out RSN fees, broadcast fees, equipment fees, regulatory fees, becausewecan fees... does nothing but piss people off. I honestly think that's a big reason people are happy to cut the cord -- they get these massive bills that are nowhere close to the advertised package price and it just feels like they're being deceived and taken for a ride.
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Jimbo
This is one of the changes I'm really hoping the streaming services are able to drive within the industry - fees are absolutely out of control.

For 2 TVs, a Genie DVR, and HD - you're at $30 in fees with DirecTV before you've even put a single dollar towards programming. On Vue that same $30 gets you 45 channels (all in HD by default), DVR, and up to 5 simultaneous streams. That's one big thing the streaming services (Vue, Sling, DTVN, etc) have going for them -- you know you're going to pay the price you see (+tax) and nothing more. All this breaking out RSN fees, broadcast fees, equipment fees, regulatory fees, becausewecan fees... does nothing but piss people off. I honestly think that's a big reason people are happy to cut the cord -- they get these massive bills that are nowhere close to the advertised package price and it just feels like they're being deceived and taken for a ride.
IF Streaming continues and gains as the time goes by (streaming is still very new) you will see price increases just like you would with any other provider, they too have to pay for the product they are giving you.
The streaming boxes will increase in price with each new generation, programming will go up in price, Netflix has increased thier product from $7.99 up to where are they now, $12.99 maybe more. I'm sure the others will follow suit .... your starting at $35 a month, just like you were with Cable or D* when it started. My original D* bill was about $40 p/m when I started.
Bruce
IF Streaming continues and gains as the time goes by (streaming is still very new) you will see price increases just like you would with any other provider, they too have to pay for the product they are giving you.

Very true, they will go up, but I am going to enjoy the money saved right now with Vue, and it is not just programming costs that are the problems, it is all the extra fees, local RSN, a lot of providers are charging for locals and then the box fees.




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Jimbo
Very true, they will go up, but I am going to enjoy the money saved right now with Vue, and it is not just programming costs that are the problems, it is all the extra fees, local RSN, a lot of providers are charging for locals and then the box fees.




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Everything but the Equipment fee, you'll eventually see ... i would imagine.
Gobucks
Everything but the Equipment fee, you'll eventually see ... i would imagine.

Their whole concept is no fees. You add fees and people will cancel. Sure programming goes up. When you add fees going up on top of programming you piss people off. Yes I know.... No one forces us to get TV service.

It seems like a lot of people here hope streaming fails. I don't get the whole loyalty to a TV service. Some here defend the Hell out of them. Like its a family member. Do you all defend and love your electric and gas companies too?

All we hear is prices will go up and fees will be added. You'll see. I was also told Verizon will never lower their prices or add unlimited again.

Maybe just maybe these streaming services will pull a T Mobile and help bring change. Maybe they won't but right now I'm saving a lot of money.

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Jimbo
Their whole concept is no fees. You add fees and people will cancel. Sure programming goes up. When you add fees going up on top of programming you piss people off. Yes I know.... No one forces us to get TV service.

It seems like a lot of people here hope streaming fails. I don't get the whole loyalty to a TV service. Some here defend the Hell out of them. Like its a family member. Do you all defend and love your electric and gas companies too?

All we hear is prices will go up and fees will be added. You'll see. I was also told Verizon will never lower their prices or add unlimited again.

Maybe just maybe these streaming services will pull a T Mobile and help bring change. Maybe they won't but right now I'm saving a lot of money.

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Verizon did thier thing because everyone else was going that way.

I don't like Fees either, but i can get around the fees and you'll still pay ...
All you have to do is say your service is going up X amount (if it's not extreme, most accept it.
If I up your price but don't tell you its for Programming or box fees or local contract, you would pay it and move on, but if I break it down and say, I'm gonna change you a Fee for you HD service and a fee for the locals and a fee for RSN you would complain .... (not you specifically, people in general.)
Gobucks
Verizon did thier thing because everyone else was going that way.

I don't like Fees either, but i can get around the fees and you'll still pay ...
All you have to do is say your service is going up X amount (if it's not extreme, most accept it.
If I up your price but don't tell you its for Programming or box fees or local contract, you would pay it and move on, but if I break it down and say, I'm gonna change you a Fee for you HD service and a fee for the locals and a fee for RSN you would complain .... (not you specifically, people in general.)
So you don't believe T Mobile did anything to push Verizon or change the industry? Well according to anyone in the know they did. So it can happen.

Hey I was like everyone else here just bending over and paying. Then I just got sick of the crap. I don't have to have TV. If you get your way and the streaming services charge fees I will leave. So will everyone else and then you can be happy about that.

I don't get why you want these services to fail. Is the service your on that important to you? If they succeed it might help lower your bill in the future.

You just seem like one of those who think it will never change and your OK with that. That's fine but people like me want change. If it doesn't happen fine. Its only TV.
Jimbo
So you don't believe T Mobile did anything to push Verizon or change the industry? Well according to anyone in the know they did. So it can happen.

Hey I was like everyone else here just bending over and paying. Then I just got sick of the crap. I don't have to have TV. If you get your way and the streaming services charge fees I will leave. So will everyone else and then you can be happy about that.

I don't get why you want these services to fail. Is the service your on that important to you? If they succeed it might help lower your bill in the future.

You just seem like one of those who think it will never change and your OK with that. That's fine but people like me want change. If it doesn't happen fine. Its only TV.
I think when one company makes a big change, weather it's Verizon, T Mobley or whoever and it works, others will follow.

I never said I want streaming to fail.
It's not for everybody, how's that working for the guy that can't get the high speed internet needed ?
Gobucks
I think when one company makes a big change, weather it's Verizon, T Mobley or whoever and it works, others will follow.

I never said I want streaming to fail.
It's not for everybody, how's that working for the guy that can't get the high speed internet needed ?
Of course its not for everyone. I've said that. I'm hoping that these streaming services help get prices down for everyone. OK you might not want it to fail but your quick to say fees are coming.

Verizon was losing customers and decided to change. They just didn't decide to change out of the goodness of their heart. They were pushed into it.
meStevo
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Browns lead the AFC North 🤣

Seth Meyers What GIF by Late Night with Seth Meyers
Foxbat
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
rvvaquero
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
M
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:

Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
dfergie
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Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
Source Gateworld
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
osu1991
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
R
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
long_time_Dish
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Blinded By The Light - Manfred Mann's Earth Band
Bobby
I Saw The Light - Todd Rundgren
long_time_Dish
Little Bit Of Light - Strange Weather
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A Little Bit of Soap -- The Jarmels
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Give A Little Bit - Supertramp
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Ramy
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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Jimbo
They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.
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Peter Parker
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
No idea what improvements might be involved.
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bookworm370
Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.
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Foxbat
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"
Here's the one I need:
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dishstaller
Here's the one I need:
Just ordered one....that's great.
jsmit86
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
long_time_Dish
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
Almighty1
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
navychop
it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

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SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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HipKat
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
AZ.
AZ.
Well if it is because of reliability that wouldnt shock me.I went through 5 or 6 of them in little over 2 years. I loved the Sling when it worked! Saved lots of money having it in the day. That was probably 15 or 16 years ago?
T
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
Nominal
I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
You are thinking of the 921. The 922 was the first DVR with Sling functionality built in (that was eventually disabled along with the Sling Adapter for the 722s and the 1st Hopper because they relied on now-defunct Adobe Flash technology). With the bugginess described by others and the removal of its marquee feature (Sling) the 922 faded into obscurity once the Hopper 2 with built in Sling was released and they finally made the concept into a fully functional product.
dishdude
I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.
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dfergie
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Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?
We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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TRG
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Two Chicago style hot dogs and a Fanta orange soda.
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Little mini pepperoni pizza, green beans, apples and chocolate milk.
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Fanta orange soda.
Sitting in fridge cooling off, bought 1 along with 2 Mexican Cokes at La Tienda... (I keep a few cokes stashed as well as in fridge and camper fridge)
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Garlic cheese bread
Green beans
Apples
Chocolate Milk
Some weird noodles. ;)
(They have salad and a couple other fruits if wanted)
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TRG
Club sandwich and corn chowder. Iced tea.
dfergie
Chili dog bowl, water… (homemade chili)