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Switch to 4K Ready Now or Wait???

I decided to stay with DirecTV retention gave me a strong deal, but it's going to be a 1yr contract, I know new equipment would be a 2yr contract. I know DirecTV has very limited 4K content, but while I was signing a contract I didn't know if it would be a good time to go ahead and upgrade equipment too.

I currently have an HR44 Genie and 2 HR24 HD DVR's with whole home DVR (9 Tuners). This setup has been great. To get 4K ready (I currently have 1 4K TV, but plan to get a second soon). They offered if I buy the HR54 which was $200 I believe the 2 Genie 4K's would be free.

Is this a good move? Is the 54 much better than the 44 or just 4K compatible? If I don't do it now, what is coming down the pike that may be significantly better?

Thanks in advance!!
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While I appreciate what rad said, I would also state that your enthusiasm over 4K might be a bit "cart-before-the-horse."

4K standards (both physical and logical) are still being worked out. Aside from major sunk costs, this is why no local station, for example, has gone to 4K (they're not even at 1080p yet, because it would be a multi-million-dollar investment to go either way). If streaming uncompressed 4K takes a 12GB link (which it does), that should give you an idea of what's at stake here.

At this time, the only real benefit you'd have in upgrading is being able to watch a handful of shows/live events that DirecTV specifically broadcasts over its satellites. Notice that this is all being done Over The Air (OTA), and not by cable, per say (Comcast might have some content being delivered in this fashion, but I can almost guarantee it's strictly limited, per bandwidth issues).

Can you watch content on 4K discs? Of course you can, but realize that there's going to be far more content in 4K on that medium than there's going to be, broadcast-wise, for at least the next few years. Note that watching a 4K disc completely cuts out DirecTV in terms of content providing.

So, it's great that you've got some incredible TVs at your disposal that can do 4K, perhaps even HDR. However, via DirecTV, you'll effectively be using about 10% of their capabilities at this time.

It never hurts to wait.
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maestro7 said:
While I appreciate what rad said, I would also state that your enthusiasm over 4K might be a bit "cart-before-the-horse."

4K standards (both physical and logical) are still being worked out. Aside from major sunk costs, this is why no local station, for example, has gone to 4K (they're not even at 1080p yet, because it would be a multi-million-dollar investment to go either way). If streaming uncompressed 4K takes a 12GB link (which it does), that should give you an idea of what's at stake here.

At this time, the only real benefit you'd have in upgrading is being able to watch a handful of shows/live events that DirecTV specifically broadcasts over its satellites. Notice that this is all being done Over The Air (OTA), and not by cable, per say (Comcast might have some content being delivered in this fashion, but I can almost guarantee it's strictly limited, per bandwidth issues).

Can you watch content on 4K discs? Of course you can, but realize that there's going to be far more content in 4K on that medium than there's going to be, broadcast-wise, for at least the next few years. Note that watching a 4K disc completely cuts out DirecTV in terms of content providing.

So, it's great that you've got some incredible TVs at your disposal that can do 4K, perhaps even HDR. However, via DirecTV, you'll effectively be using about 10% of their capabilities at this time.

It never hurts to wait.
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Ah, there's always something better coming down the road. So how long do you wait? OTA for 4K is a ways off, years. Standard might be being worked on for OTA 4K but DIRECTV has enough in place to be able to offer some nice looking 4K now if that's what he's interested in.

I do agree that content has been limited so far on DIRECTV but it is expanding with some MLB, NBA, Soccer and in a couple weeks we get our first NASCAR race in 4K. Here's what they've accounts for the coming weeks,
https://support.directv.com/dtv-programming/4k-events, besides the stuff that keep showing on channel 104 and the PPV movies (which are way overpriced IMHO).

What I could see the OP waiting for is the rumored HS17 since that can handle two concurrent 4K streams while the HR54 can only do one.
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Im waiting for the solution that doesn't charge me $7 for no reason other than a bad and bone headed half baked 4k roll out.
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dish has a good solution. to bad they dont have the capacity
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Why wait? Channel 104 has very nice nature type programming. And some more educational oriented. If you want to see 4K quality stuff you can't beat nature shows. Like Planet Earth ll. That type of programming really shows off what 4K brings to the table. It's not like you're having to pay for a higher priced program level. There was no up charge for the C61K nor was there one for the HR54. All of the 4K programming records and plays back in 4K so why not get it now.
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rad said:
Ah, there's always something better coming down the road. So how long do you wait? OTA for 4K is a ways off, years. Standard might be being worked on for OTA 4K but DIRECTV has enough in place to be able to offer some nice looking 4K now if that's what he's interested in.

I do agree that content has been limited so far on DIRECTV but it is expanding with some MLB, NBA, Soccer and in a couple weeks we get our first NASCAR race in 4K. Here's what they've accounts for the coming weeks,
https://support.directv.com/dtv-programming/4k-events, besides the stuff that keep showing on channel 104 and the PPV movies (which are way overpriced IMHO).

What I could see the OP waiting for is the rumored HS17 since that can handle two concurrent 4K streams while the HR54 can only do one.
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I think my comments were misconstrued if they were taken for waiting for, say, 8K or some other such technology.

My point was getting folks to think longer-term, and I think that if anyone is going to get themselves a new TV today, then they need to go and get the best they can afford, along the lines of both 4K and HDR. However, the OP was trying to weigh the differences between paying hundreds now for an HR54 versus waiting for a couple of years (maybe) with their HR44 and then see what things look like at that point.

Broadcasters -- be they local or cable -- do not have the same push with 4K as they did with HD. The feds got behind HD in a very big way, hence why it's now essentially the main standard for everything (to the point that older TVs -- as in, more than 20 years old -- have converter boxes for OTA antennae). The same will not be happening with 4K.

Therefore, this is not a wait to see if something better comes down the pike; this is a wait to see if it's worth spending $200 today or next to nothing in 6 months, 1 year or 2 years from now for the same (or substantially similar) equipment.

Unless someone has evidence otherwise, I don't think that DirecTV's actual equipment is going to do much changing except with respect to how 4K is channeled from the birds in the sky.
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maestro7 said:
I think my comments were misconstrued if they were taken for waiting for, say, 8K or some other such technology.

My point was getting folks to think longer-term, and I think that if anyone is going to get themselves a new TV today, then they need to go and get the best they can afford, along the lines of both 4K and HDR. However, the OP was trying to weigh the differences between paying hundreds now for an HR54 versus waiting for a couple of years (maybe) with their HR44 and then see what things look like at that point.

Broadcasters -- be they local or cable -- do not have the same push with 4K as they did with HD. The feds got behind HD in a very big way, hence why it's now essentially the main standard for everything (to the point that older TVs -- as in, more than 20 years old -- have converter boxes for OTA antennae). The same will not be happening with 4K.

Therefore, this is not a wait to see if something better comes down the pike; this is a wait to see if it's worth spending $200 today or next to nothing in 6 months, 1 year or 2 years from now for the same (or substantially similar) equipment.

Unless someone has evidence otherwise, I don't think that DirecTV's actual equipment is going to do much changing except with respect to how 4K is channeled from the birds in the sky.
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But if you look at past experience with DIRECTV if something came out that would render the HR54 unable to receive 4K programming there's a good chance they would provide a free upgrade. I use 3D as an example, if you have a HR20 and a 3D TV they got you a new receiver that would support 3D.
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NFL 2026-2027 Season

Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
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Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.
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Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
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Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties

Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.
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Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
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reubenray said:
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
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Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
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Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
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If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.
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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

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2026-27 NCAA College Football

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Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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DISH Hopper 3 Software Version 713 Is Out

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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.
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My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning.
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Had a customer call recently saying their remote was really acting up, some buttons no longer functioned. Told them to reboot the Hopper....problem fixed.
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"

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Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"
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Here's the one I need:
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naptime said:
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
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They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
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Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
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jsmit86 said:
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
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I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
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Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
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Well if it is because of reliability that wouldnt shock me.I went through 5 or 6 of them in little over 2 years. I loved the Sling when it worked! Saved lots of money having it in the day. That was probably 15 or 16 years ago?
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I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
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I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
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I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
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You are thinking of the 921. The 922 was the first DVR with Sling functionality built in (that was eventually disabled along with the Sling Adapter for the 722s and the 1st Hopper because they relied on now-defunct Adobe Flash technology). With the bugginess described by others and the removal of its marquee feature (Sling) the 922 faded into obscurity once the Hopper 2 with built in Sling was released and they finally made the concept into a fully functional product.
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I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.
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What's For Lunch?

We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Two Chicago style hot dogs and a Fanta orange soda.
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