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Robbert
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Hi everyone,

Been playing around with getting a DSS and Univ. LNB on the same coax. Tried a generic 4x1 switch, a "high quality" Chieta 4x1 switch and finally a Sadoun 2x1 switch. Couldn't get any of them to reliably switch. The 4x1 generic and 2x1 sadoun would sometimes switch, but I'd have to turn LNB power off and on for it to switch sometimes. The Cieta 4x1 switch seemed to oscillate. Regardless of what I did on the receiver, I would lose the signal one second and get it back the next, etc. Now, this was all on a Fortec Lifetime Ultra receiver..

Then I tried to control the 2x1 switch using my Twinhan 102g.. And to my surprise, I got it working in MyTheatre by setting the LNB DiSEqC settings to "Second DiSEqC, Committed, LNB1 (or LNB2, depending on whether I wanted the DSS or Linear LNB)". Trying to put this setting in the "First DiSEqC" box yielded a similar result to what I got on the Fortec..

I haven't seen any settings on the Fortec to choose DiSEqC settings besides Tone A, B, and LNB1 through 4. Nothing about committed, uncommitted, first or second DiSEqC... Any ideas on what's going on here? (what does committed, uncommitted, first and second DiSEqC even mean??)

I do have a HH100 in the chain. The switch is between the HH100 and the two LNB's though. All cable is Quad RG6 and total cable run is about 50 feet.

Thanks!
Robbert
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Robbert
Iceberg,

If I read your post right, I can't use the "universal" part of my universal LNB when using a switch??? That would be a bummer since I was planning on surfing for a few sats to our East...

Aside from keeping the 22 kHz on for the univ. and setting the LO higher (obviously), I did everything as you described...


Thanks!
Robbert
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Robbert said:
Hi everyone,

Been playing around with getting a DSS and Univ. LNB on the same coax. Tried a generic 4x1 switch, a "high quality" Chieta 4x1 switch and finally a Sadoun 2x1 switch. Couldn't get any of them to reliably switch. The 4x1 generic and 2x1 sadoun would sometimes switch, but I'd have to turn LNB power off and on for it to switch sometimes. The Cieta 4x1 switch seemed to oscillate. Regardless of what I did on the receiver, I would lose the signal one second and get it back the next, etc. Now, this was all on a Fortec Lifetime Ultra receiver..

Then I tried to control the 2x1 switch using my Twinhan 102g.. And to my surprise, I got it working in MyTheatre by setting the LNB DiSEqC settings to "Second DiSEqC, Committed, LNB1 (or LNB2, depending on whether I wanted the DSS or Linear LNB)". Trying to put this setting in the "First DiSEqC" box yielded a similar result to what I got on the Fortec..

I haven't seen any settings on the Fortec to choose DiSEqC settings besides Tone A, B, and LNB1 through 4. Nothing about committed, uncommitted, first or second DiSEqC... Any ideas on what's going on here? (what does committed, uncommitted, first and second DiSEqC even mean??)

I do have a HH100 in the chain. The switch is between the HH100 and the two LNB's though. All cable is Quad RG6 and total cable run is about 50 feet.

Thanks!
Robbert

In MyTheatre the second Diseqc box is for switches installed after a motor. or after whatever switch you put in the first box. You have that set correctly.

Committed switches are Diseqc 2.0 and uncommitted switches are diseqc 1.0 (1.1?) You can have a commited and uncommitted switch in series, but you can not have two of the same type in series.

You have good quality switches, so I would suspect a bad cable end. Remember that the switches need the shielding to be solid for the ground return of the switch.

There is a simple test for checking for a bad shielding. But you need a piece of wire to go from your dish to your reciever. Clip the wire to the crimped on cable end (shield) and then run the wire into the receiver. connect one end of the wire to one lead of a voltmeter and the other lead of the voltmeter to the shield closest to the receiver.

Now operate the switches, lnb's, or motor (You may need to reverse the voltmeter leads) any readings over 2 volts is not acceptable.
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yes you can.

Reason I said set LO to 10600 and 22K on is so when you scan a bird that doesn't have extended frequencies, you don't have to kill time waiting for that part

The birds that DO have an extended (PAS9), set to Universal 1.

The above is how I had my setup for a couple months. I recently removed the DBS LNB and put that on the other setup : )
Robbert
Pansat 3500S came, DiSEqC problem solved.. ;)

Jerryt, thanks for the info on what committed/non committed etc is. The situation was that my 102g in MyTheatre did the switching just fine, but the Fortec didn't. And since the Fortec didn't have any settings on whether or not the switch was committed/secondary/etc. I thought this might have been the issue...

Then, to my surprise, I got my new Pansat 3500S delivered a day early yesterday. Hooked it up and started playing with it.. To my surprise, it switches the DiSEqC just fine! No missed-switching yet!

So I don't think it's a cabling issue, but I will check the continuity whenever I can find a wire thats long enough. ;)


Iceberg,
That's a good idea to set the LNB to a LO of 10600.. Never thought of that, but that makes good sense for the sats that don't have the lower band..


As for the Pansat 3500S, initial impressions.. Nice product! Box looks identical to the Fortec though, except for the front panel and the back connectors... Blind scan is faster only in the frequency scan part (I would say a factor 2), but when it scans the TPs afterwards, it seems to take ages to pass by some trouble TP's such as the DirecWay TP's.. The Ultra never sat for 5 minutes scanning 1 TP like the Pansat does...

All in all, I hope the 3500S doesn't have the bugs that the Ultra has (DiSEqC and messing up the config if there are too many TPs). If that is the case, I'm a happy camper!

Robbert
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Robbert
I have scanned IA6 numerous times with the Pansat and havent deleted any TP's yet...still running like a champ

Yeah, the Directway TP's and the one on IA6 really screw with the unit. I usually just delete those and rescan the satellite (not blind scan)
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

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Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

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Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
rvvaquero
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:

Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
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Jeeez, Week 6, no lead is safe…
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No idea what improvements might be involved.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
long_time_Dish
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
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It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
navychop
it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
🤣

Oh....you were serious
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Hondo is back with a new squad 9/25 only on Starz.


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Never watched the previous shows, so doubtful.
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Started watching yesterday. Not too bad.
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I like Zyra from La Brea (one with the prosthetic).
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Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
osu1991
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
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Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.
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