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So about a week ago the original Hopper/Joey system in our house was updated to the new CUI (Against my will, I might add. I was going to hold out as long as possible and upgrade kicking and screaming all the way, but someone else in the house decided to accept the upgrade when the message appeared on screen without asking me first.)
Let me be upfront: I was really gunning for positive results. I am always one of the first onboard for new, better stuff, even if it isn't always broken. The old UI was somewhat tired and dated cosmetically, yes, but it certainly was not broken. It had good response time, was streamlined, clean looking, and so dang stable and easy to use. I've been with Dish for many, many years and have swore by their equipment 200%. Their receivers and remotes, in my book, have ALWAYS been the simplest to use and very stable.
I honestly don't know what Dish was thinking with this UI retool. After a little over a week's worth of use, I've noticed so many bugs and dislikes it's not even acceptable. Several steps backward if you ask me. I know the CUI has been around already for the newer generation Hopper, and many of the functional issues I'm getting ready to list may not be happening for those users, but for someone like myself running older equipment that WORKED JUST FINE before, this is almost nauseating.
Functionality Issues:
- Old/deleted recordings randomly being brought back out of trash and appearing as "new" in DVR list.
- When pausing live TV, cannot resume. Nothing works except to either press "Live TV" or sometimes even turning receiver off, then back on, almost like it's frozen.
- Very delayed response from remote commands, if any response at all.
- Sometimes DVR listings inside a folder of the same show do not populate the first few times. I'll often have to exit out of DVR and then try going back in before it will show me the list of recordings.
- When I press "Play" for a DVR event, it often takes a good 10-20 seconds for the program to start playing.
- The overall speed and responsiveness of the system is DRAMITACLLY worse than before. Average of 10 seconds or so for each process it tries to execute. It is literally frustrating trying to do anything with it.
- Browse guide timeout. When I'm using the browse feature to scan through the mini guide at the bottom of the screen, if I let it set for 10 seconds or so, it goes away. I usually will pause, either to watch something that is going on with the current show or another reason, when using browse, and before it has always stayed in the same spot on the screen a good amount of time before going away so that I can pick back up and continue scanning where I left off when I'm ready. Whether intentional or not, this shortened timeout of the browse guide is not a good experience.
Cosmetic and Layout Complaints:
- Poor use of screen area. I know many have griped about the guide, but I just feel with any menu, like the info screen or DVR screen, for instance, has a lot of unused real estate that is causing the main focal points to be smaller or larger than they need to be. I think the main culprit is the info text being on the side instead of on top like it used to be. It causes everything else to have to be shrunk.
- Browse. This is a unique feature I've always loved from Dish because it has allowed me to scan through channels easily while still watching a show. The new browse guide seems so unessecarily bulky and boxy to the point that I feel like it defeats its own purpose.
- RW, FF, Pause, etc. showing at the bottom right instead of top right. Most channels have their logo at the bottom left or right of the screen, and I think it is both cluttered looking and out of place to have these function graphics over the top of the channel logo. I mean, was it even thought about what it would look like when actual programming was playing?
- Overall cluttered feel. In UI past, everything has always seemed like it just had its own place and worked together visually. While I do like the new darker look, I feel like there is no separation between elements being displayed, like it all is just running together.
This is just hitting some of the highlights. I know there is more, but maybe others can use this thread to list your own unique issue(s) or affirm that you are seeing some of the same things. Doesn't seem like there is a thread dedicated to just that as of yet.
I would like to close by saying if you think I'm being critical, I'm not. You know there are legit problems when everyone in the house, most of whom could care less about having the fastest, latest thing, are noticing the step backs of our system and who are now on my toes to do something about it. I see no feasible way of us continuing to use our system the way it is without Dish either (1) revising this software in a major way to fix all these issues and have better backwards compatibility or (2) replace our receivers with newer equipment (which, frankly, is stupid considering they were just fine before the new software. But if that's what it takes to make operation bearable, then so be it).
Let me be upfront: I was really gunning for positive results. I am always one of the first onboard for new, better stuff, even if it isn't always broken. The old UI was somewhat tired and dated cosmetically, yes, but it certainly was not broken. It had good response time, was streamlined, clean looking, and so dang stable and easy to use. I've been with Dish for many, many years and have swore by their equipment 200%. Their receivers and remotes, in my book, have ALWAYS been the simplest to use and very stable.
I honestly don't know what Dish was thinking with this UI retool. After a little over a week's worth of use, I've noticed so many bugs and dislikes it's not even acceptable. Several steps backward if you ask me. I know the CUI has been around already for the newer generation Hopper, and many of the functional issues I'm getting ready to list may not be happening for those users, but for someone like myself running older equipment that WORKED JUST FINE before, this is almost nauseating.
Functionality Issues:
- Old/deleted recordings randomly being brought back out of trash and appearing as "new" in DVR list.
- When pausing live TV, cannot resume. Nothing works except to either press "Live TV" or sometimes even turning receiver off, then back on, almost like it's frozen.
- Very delayed response from remote commands, if any response at all.
- Sometimes DVR listings inside a folder of the same show do not populate the first few times. I'll often have to exit out of DVR and then try going back in before it will show me the list of recordings.
- When I press "Play" for a DVR event, it often takes a good 10-20 seconds for the program to start playing.
- The overall speed and responsiveness of the system is DRAMITACLLY worse than before. Average of 10 seconds or so for each process it tries to execute. It is literally frustrating trying to do anything with it.
- Browse guide timeout. When I'm using the browse feature to scan through the mini guide at the bottom of the screen, if I let it set for 10 seconds or so, it goes away. I usually will pause, either to watch something that is going on with the current show or another reason, when using browse, and before it has always stayed in the same spot on the screen a good amount of time before going away so that I can pick back up and continue scanning where I left off when I'm ready. Whether intentional or not, this shortened timeout of the browse guide is not a good experience.
Cosmetic and Layout Complaints:
- Poor use of screen area. I know many have griped about the guide, but I just feel with any menu, like the info screen or DVR screen, for instance, has a lot of unused real estate that is causing the main focal points to be smaller or larger than they need to be. I think the main culprit is the info text being on the side instead of on top like it used to be. It causes everything else to have to be shrunk.
- Browse. This is a unique feature I've always loved from Dish because it has allowed me to scan through channels easily while still watching a show. The new browse guide seems so unessecarily bulky and boxy to the point that I feel like it defeats its own purpose.
- RW, FF, Pause, etc. showing at the bottom right instead of top right. Most channels have their logo at the bottom left or right of the screen, and I think it is both cluttered looking and out of place to have these function graphics over the top of the channel logo. I mean, was it even thought about what it would look like when actual programming was playing?
- Overall cluttered feel. In UI past, everything has always seemed like it just had its own place and worked together visually. While I do like the new darker look, I feel like there is no separation between elements being displayed, like it all is just running together.
This is just hitting some of the highlights. I know there is more, but maybe others can use this thread to list your own unique issue(s) or affirm that you are seeing some of the same things. Doesn't seem like there is a thread dedicated to just that as of yet.
I would like to close by saying if you think I'm being critical, I'm not. You know there are legit problems when everyone in the house, most of whom could care less about having the fastest, latest thing, are noticing the step backs of our system and who are now on my toes to do something about it. I see no feasible way of us continuing to use our system the way it is without Dish either (1) revising this software in a major way to fix all these issues and have better backwards compatibility or (2) replace our receivers with newer equipment (which, frankly, is stupid considering they were just fine before the new software. But if that's what it takes to make operation bearable, then so be it).
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I know ..
but it all starts to coalesce into this "I'm as mad as h*ll and I'm not going to take it any more" rage. I'm *that* guy, the one always in the losing percentage. ... 5% failure rate? it fails for me .. 94% served on time, in proper working order, etc etc .. I'm in that 6%.. it gets hard to always be on the losing side and "forgive them" for their failures.Oh .. I found the troubles with my hookup .. 4 of the 18 or so wires/heads made on the cables had the center conductor too short in the head. I don't know if I made them or my Nephew ... but it appears that was the real cause of my troubles, not the 44.
Haven't had the chance to pretty up/tack wiring yet .. but here's the "this won't work" wiring that gets me 3 hoppers w/sling and 1 joey on a single network set-up.
I know ..
I'd hate to be driving on the same highway as you... you have "Dish Rage!"
A sand blaster works nicely.
I was thinking more about Mythbusters. You could buy some dead pigs and experiment with them to find the best way to dispose of a body.If you saw the 1996 movie Fargo then you know where this is going
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Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs
My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.
Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.
After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.
I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.
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Such a scam. Healthcare.gov shows me cheaper individual plans available for 2027 from ambetter that ambetter doesn't show on their website. Looked it up. I've spent $68,000 in premiums the last 5 years and got nothing out of it except a few doctors visits and labs.
I'm on Medicare but the rest of the family is on ACA. ACA is ridiculus. The ACA premium has been about about $1900/month with a $9K deductible for the past 10 years - no eye or dental. A lot of money and yet we get so little in return. I haven't signed up for 2027 yet but I expect the cost to be higher.
Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs
My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.
Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.
After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.
I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.
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One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
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An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I have Dish with Hopper3. I choose to get local channels OTA and had a "guide list" established at my previous home. Having moved a few miles away, I wanted to update the list by appending a couple new stations via a rescan. As many would know, some stations come in with the UHF/VHF antenna aimed in one direction, while others come in better with a different direction.
Unfortunately, when a scan is done (bringing in 25-30 stations for that particular antenna aim), the dialog screen does not present the established guide list; it presents an empty field to the right that the scanned stations may be selected one by one and added to the empty guide. But because of antenna aim, some stations originally saved are missing, and would have to be retrieved with a different antenna aim. But as I explain, if a 2nd scan is done with a different antenna aim, the stations saved from the first scan are lost.
It troubles me that Dish didn't develop software that would allow a user to simply append only 1 or 2 channels to the established list.
Any thought on this? Has anyone experienced this or heard of this from others?
Unfortunately, when a scan is done (bringing in 25-30 stations for that particular antenna aim), the dialog screen does not present the established guide list; it presents an empty field to the right that the scanned stations may be selected one by one and added to the empty guide. But because of antenna aim, some stations originally saved are missing, and would have to be retrieved with a different antenna aim. But as I explain, if a 2nd scan is done with a different antenna aim, the stations saved from the first scan are lost.
It troubles me that Dish didn't develop software that would allow a user to simply append only 1 or 2 channels to the established list.
Any thought on this? Has anyone experienced this or heard of this from others?
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After having continuing trouble with my eight+ year old Dell Inspiron laptop I am looking to hopefully catch a good deal on new one. My options to buy is Costco and Sam's Club. It seems like a lot of new laptops are 2 in 1 which I do not need. I use the laptop to mainly surf the web and keep up with my finances, money and bills. I would like to have at least a 15" screen and having a touchscreen is a plus. The keyboard would need to lighted also. I don't game any. It would have to be Windows instead of and not Mac. The brands I see the most are Asus, Dell and HP. My two last laptops has been Dell's. Of these brands are there any standouts over the other brands. My budget (hopefully) is $600+-. Also while researching I noticed that do not have ethernet ports.
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Dang female lions don't mess around when it comes to their kiddos....aka whelps.
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Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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when was the last time they innovated something
I'd probably say when they came up with their M-series of processors with integrated memory. That allowed Apple to get away from the inefficient Intel CPUs that were limiting their notebook computers.when was the last time they innovated something
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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..I hate playing in Ames.
I hate playing in LA ...
Buckeyes had 2 weeks off and came out and looked absolutely terrible ... broke in a new Freshman Qb, but that wasn't the worst part ... undiscipline play, at last count they had 10 penalties.
Freshman in the end of the game trying to play catch up, had a lot of Over throws ... Bucks lose ...
#1 Miami struggled but pulled away in the end beating North Carolina by 3 ...
Tuesday the CFP brings out thier Playoff Top 12 again ... Buckeyes should drop from #2 to about #22 (they won't) had they had thier Starting QB, it would have been a different game ...
They could lose the rest of thier games at this point.
My in-Laws came from Iowa, she was a graduate of ISU. Unranked Iowa teams beat the #24 and #25 teams on Halloween.
And I heard that your QB made a poor choice after scoring the tying touchdown, leading to a fifteen yard penalty on the ensuing kickoff. The Cyclones were then able to take advantage of the resulting field position to get close enough to score the winning field goal.
In a NCAA Football season of bizarre endings, this has to rank right up there.
I had an old Wireless Joey replaced by a Wireless Joey 4 (Android TV) - still have a Hopper 3 without the Hopper Plus. What do I have to do to get the EPG to show channel logos instead of "Dish"? This is annoying as hell and it's been this way for over a month…
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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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Amazon to acquire Globalstar and expand Amazon Leo satellite network
Globalstar satellites, radio frequency spectrum, and operational expertise will enable Amazon Leo to add Direct-to-Device (D2D) services to future generations of its low Earth orbit satellite network.
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SpaceX reportedly seeks 80,000 cell sites to become a wireless carrier | Fox News
SpaceX is reportedly pursuing 80,000 cell sites to turn Starlink into a wireless carrier that could compete with Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile for cell coverage.
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This should hit a lot of folks with a dose of reality. I can only imagine how much more common this will get as AI progresses.
I read several stories on this and most are clear as mud. They say a lot of the stolen bitcoin has been "locked out" and that everyone will be made financially whole. I guess time will tell if either of these statements are actually true.
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I read several stories on this and most are clear as mud. They say a lot of the stolen bitcoin has been "locked out" and that everyone will be made financially whole. I guess time will tell if either of these statements are actually true.
Hackers steal $6.3 billion from Binance in biggest-ever cryptocurrency theft
The company later added it began recovering assets impacted by the breach after pledging to cover losses using its Secure Asset Fund for Users.
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