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So the wife's an avid fan of the Seattle Mariners. Last year we set a SEEK timer to record any and all Mariners games and it worked flawlessly. Now this year had been fine up until last week sometime. One of her games(from the HD channel) recorded nothing but a banner saying something like: "We didn't have a subscription to this channel in HD and to Tune into the SD channel to watch"! Well, this went over like a fart in church with the wife. So we deleted the SEEK timer and tried to set two DVR timers; one on the HD channel and the other on the SD. This way we'd get one or the other. It didn't work though, I think because the DVR is set to prefer HD when there's both? We did override a couple to force the SD to record and when the wife discovered how bad SD looked, she got pissed all over again. I've spent a couple hours with DISH and they just pointed me to the game finder page of the web site (which didn't even list the live game that we know should have been there?)

Does anyone know of a solution to this other than the $120 MLB season ticket?

Thanks for any and all help
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PeggyD
Since Dish has gone to full-time RSNs I have not had issues with RTNW until last night. I do not record the games unless it's a replay of a particularly good game (& those are very rare with the Mariners!). Last night, in the bottom of the 13th inning, just as it looked like the batter hit into an inning/game-ending double play, I got an error message that the program was unavailable. Changing channels & going back to 426 still gave the message, so I turned it off & went to sleep figuring they had lost. Big surprise to find out this morning that they actually came back & won.
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zippyfrog
Since Dish has gone to full-time RSNs .

This is the issue - Dish hasn't gone to full time HD RSN's...they have gone to 2/3rds time HD RSN's. Once Dish moved the RSN's to be in HD more than just the game, there is a hard cutoff on all the main RSN's HD feeds at 3am ET, 2am CT, 1am MT, midnight PT. The HD RSN goes "Off-Air" and comes back on at 11am ET, 10am CT, 9am MT, 8am PT. The one positive thing that was nice about the old system when it was game-time only HD was that the game would stay on as long as it was live, even if it went past the off air time slots.

So my guess is right before you went to bed, that message was due to the hard cut-off of the HD channel.

I have written to Dish about this and I have gotten two responses: 1) they re-use the bandwidth from the HD RSN's for other things during the overnight hours when the paid programming is on and 2) they are only contracted to have the channels in HD 16 hours per day, which is why they have to have the hard cut off.

This has happened more than once since Dish has moved to this 2/3rds time HD RSN's. When the Cubs or Sox play a game on the west coast that goes longer than the 4 hours 50 minutes window, the game gets cutoff and I have to turn to the SD channel. I don't stay up for west coast games usually, but if I want to record it I have to record on the SD channel to ensure the complete game.
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pattykay
I agree with Bobby. I think the problem was because of the MLB EI free preview. Normally, those channels are hidden when they are not subscribed (and not in preview) so this should not be a problem except for the few weeks during the season when there is a free preview.
Bobby
I agree with Bobby. I think the problem was because of the MLB EI free preview. Normally, those channels are hidden when they are not subscribed (and not in preview) so this should not be a problem except for the few weeks during the season when there is a free preview.
and the week or so it takes them to remove them from the guide... ;)
PeggyD
This is the issue - Dish hasn't gone to full time HD RSN's...they have gone to 2/3rds time HD RSN's. Once Dish moved the RSN's to be in HD more than just the game, there is a hard cutoff on all the main RSN's HD feeds at 3am ET, 2am CT, 1am MT, midnight PT. The HD RSN goes "Off-Air" and comes back on at 11am ET, 10am CT, 9am MT, 8am PT. The one positive thing that was nice about the old system when it was game-time only HD was that the game would stay on as long as it was live, even if it went past the off air time slots.

So my guess is right before you went to bed, that message was due to the hard cut-off of the HD channel.

I have written to Dish about this and I have gotten two responses: 1) they re-use the bandwidth from the HD RSN's for other things during the overnight hours when the paid programming is on and 2) they are only contracted to have the channels in HD 16 hours per day, which is why they have to have the hard cut off.

This has happened more than once since Dish has moved to this 2/3rds time HD RSN's. When the Cubs or Sox play a game on the west coast that goes longer than the 4 hours 50 minutes window, the game gets cutoff and I have to turn to the SD channel. I don't stay up for west coast games usually, but if I want to record it I have to record on the SD channel to ensure the complete game.
Well, Root Sports NW has been full-time for quite some time & that is the channel the OP was asking about.
Bobby
Well, Root Sports NW has been full-time for quite some time & that is the channel the OP was asking about.
Root Sports NW is not full time on the HD channel. As with the rest of those channels, it goes off air at midnight PDT. Now the OP was talking about a SEEK timer and that the Mariners games were on RTNW. We have pretty well figured out that the seek timer was selecting MLB EI instead of RTNW. that is where the issue arose.
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pattykay
and the week or so it takes them to remove them from the guide... ;)
Yes, that is one thing that annoys me: Dish leaving the channels in the guide when we can't actually watch the games. Other previews seem to get removed from the guide in a timely manner, so why should the sports packages be any different? At least with NBA League Pass, the extended preview (while we are waiting for the NBA LP channels to get hidden again) gives us access to NBA TV. Since MLB EI does not include MLB Network, there is really no point in leaving the MLB EI channels visible any longer than necessary for the preview.
Y
So the wife is still up-in-arms with this situation. Now, both Saturday and Sunday games started recording the SD channel instead HD. ALL of Saturday's game was recorded in SD and Sunday we noticed half-way through the broadcast and manually swapped them.

Spent around 45 minutes with DISH tech support and the first guy tried telling me he was going to relay the problem to the engineering group. That, to me sounds like DISH telling me to live with the problem? I asked repeatedly if I could get a call-back just to tell me what the solution was? He told me that wasn't possible.

I mean really, they didn't do anything? For starters wouldn't you maybe want to delete all the timers dealing with the problem and start from scratch? NOPE! They didn't. All they did(and I spoke with a senior support tech after this first guy) was check the settings to try and make sure the DVR was set to prefer the HD instead of the SD.

Long story short, I'm fed up with the whole thing and tried to get them to let me out of my contract.(have 1 year left). This was after transferring me to an account specialist. She finally gave me a waved fee for a tech to come to our house and see what the problem is (I doubt there actually is a problem with the equipment!) So, I have a tech coming to my house Tuesday.

What can I do to get this problem resolved?
pattykay
So the wife is still up-in-arms with this situation. Now, both Saturday and Sunday games started recording the SD channel instead HD. ALL of Saturday's game was recorded in SD and Sunday we noticed half-way through the broadcast and manually swapped them.
This might be an unrelated problem with the guide data. Was the game listed correctly in the guide data on the HD feed on Saturday and Sunday? If the guide for the HD feed was screwed up, then the timer would only recognize the game on the SD feed (assuming the SD feed had the correct guide data) and record it, which is better than not recording anything and missing the game entirely.
dishcomm
So the wife's an avid fan of the Seattle Mariners. Last year we set a SEEK timer to record any and all Mariners games and it worked flawlessly. Now this year had been fine up until last week sometime. One of her games(from the HD channel) recorded nothing but a banner saying something like: "We didn't have a subscription to this channel in HD and to Tune into the SD channel to watch"! Well, this went over like a fart in church with the wife. So we deleted the SEEK timer and tried to set two DVR timers; one on the HD channel and the other on the SD. This way we'd get one or the other. It didn't work though, I think because the DVR is set to prefer HD when there's both? We did override a couple to force the SD to record and when the wife discovered how bad SD looked, she got pissed all over again. I've spent a couple hours with DISH and they just pointed me to the game finder page of the web site (which didn't even list the live game that we know should have been there?)

Does anyone know of a solution to this other than the $120 MLB season ticket?

Thanks for any and all help
Yeah..Do a MANUAL timer. Search the precise channel you wish to record. Set start and wend times manually and let 'er go...
TO record sporting events, I NEVER use the timer feature. I manually enter the start and stop times.
brittanygarden
Staff member Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Please post your remote make/model here and any details of your issue. We are looking to collect as many examples as possible. I may reach out to you for your receiver number, but please do not post it here.

If you've already reported this to me, please repost it here so I can track all instances in one thread.

Thanks!
Brittany
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bookworm370
I have a solution that is guaranteed to work.
All Hopper developers are required to turn in their RF Hopper remotes and use only IR remotes.

I guarantee you that the bug will be fixed in two days!
Try it; it will work! They will work 24 hours a day to fix it when the WAF goes into the toilet!
GRB1959
I have a solution that is guaranteed to work.
All Hopper developers are required to turn in their RF Hopper remotes and use only IR remotes.

I guarantee you that the bug will be fixed in two days!
Try it; it will work! They will work 24 hours a day to fix it when the WAF goes into the toilet!
Excellent suggestion.
bookworm370
Excellent suggestion.
Yea, I've only been a CIO for the last 30 years! :)
Trust me, when something important breaks, they get to own it!
A
Loaded H713 software on my Hopper 3 last week. Have not seen any change in the IR/RF remote issues with my Harmony 700.
Has Dish acknowledged this is a problem and are they committed to fixing it?
I'd be happy to roll back to last July.
long_time_Dish
Loaded H713 software on my Hopper 3 last week. Have not seen any change in the IR/RF remote issues with my Harmony 700.
Has Dish acknowledged this is a problem and are they committed to fixing it?
I'd be happy to roll back to last July. <-----|
Absolutely!!!---------------------------------------------|
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Loaded H713 software on my Hopper 3 last week. Have not seen any change in the IR/RF remote issues with my Harmony 700.
Has Dish acknowledged this is a problem and are they committed to fixing it?
I'd be happy to roll back to last July.
I got 713 a few days ago and nothing has changed concerning the IR/RF remote issues.
long_time_Dish
My Hopper 3 updated itself to H713 last week and the IR issue is worse now. On H711, I could be on an SD channel for several hours and the IR side of my H3 would still be responsive without my having to tap the View button on my Pronto Pro every 15 minutes. Now, if I stay even on an SD channel without tapping the View button at least once an hour, it becomes unresponsive to my Pronto Pro without tapping the View button at least 5-20 times, just like on the HD and 4K channels. So, H713 actually made the issue worse. :(

brittanygarden
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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You Belong To The City - Glenn Frey
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You Belong To The City - Glenn Frey
Fool for The City - Foghat
long_time_Dish
Hot Child In The City - Nick Gilder
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In The Wee Small Hours of the Morning - Carly Simon
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Sometime In The Morning - The Monkees
osu1991
Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
:mad::mad::mad::mad:

Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.

Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.

After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.

I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.
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osu1991
Such a scam. Healthcare.gov shows me cheaper individual plans available for 2027 from ambetter that ambetter doesn't show on their website. Looked it up. I've spent $68,000 in premiums the last 5 years and got nothing out of it except a few doctors visits and labs. 😡
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dishstaller
I've spent $68,000 in premiums the last 5 years
That's why I cancelled ours and just started saving the money. We're about to do the same thing with our home insurance.....not cancel it outright but do away with the portion which covers wind damage. We're paying over $5k right now and that is AFTER I dumbed things down...and it keeps going up. Got a couple trees I want to have taken down first before I do that however. After we do that, it will knock about $3k off our annual premium.
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WhiteBeard
That's why I cancelled ours and just started saving the money. We're about to do the same thing with our home insurance.....not cancel it outright but do away with the portion which covers wind damage. We're paying over $5k right now and that is AFTER I dumbed things down...and it keeps going up. Got a couple trees I want to have taken down first before I do that however. After we do that, it will knock about $3k off our annual premium.
Our home and auto insurance has been stable so I'll continue with it but I'm going to have see what I can do about medical insurance. The biggest impact would be an ER visit.
b4pjoe
My wife and I use the same Medicare Advantage plan from United Healthcare. (Yes I have heard the horror stories about Medicare Advantage plans but we have used it for the last 5 years). We are both pretty healthy so it works for us. It costs $0.00 per month for both of us and it pays part of our Medicare part B premium. Next year it will be paying $170 per month of the $220 monthly part B premium for both of us. We also each get $90 per quarter to use on OTC products. $0.00 copay for Dr. visits and $55 copay for specialists. Includes dental and hearing coverage. Never have had an issue with it although I don't really use mine other than for the dental, Part B payments and the OTC benefit as I am a veteran and use the VA for all of my medical needs. I just had a kidney that had a cancer mass removed last month and they allowed me to use a non VA surgeon at a non VA hospital through the VA Community Care program. For all of the doctors visits, exams, tests, surgery, hospital stay, meds etc…was around $60,000 and the the VA paid for it entirely. I did have to pay $16 for the Oxycodone pain pills when I left the hospital that I got from my local CVS instead of waiting for a week for the VA to ship them to me from the VA pharmacy.
meStevo
They're pushing our high deductible plan pretty hard at work, including a couple thousand to seed a HSA. Covering my wife and 4 kids though that feels like a mistake and I'd rather the peace of mind and the potential higher cost via the PPO plan payroll deductions.
dishstaller
$0.00 copay for Dr. visits
And THAT is one of the big issues causing a lot of the problems. If the minimum copay for Dr. visits was at least $100 then a LOT of folks would opt out of those visits. If it cost the individual nothing then why should they care. All of my older family members are constantly going to doctor visits.....to them it is an adventure.....an outing that allows them a reason to go out to eat at a restaurant. IF they had to pay one cent out of their own pockets a lot of that crap would stop asap.

Sorry...rant off.
meStevo
And THAT is one of the big issues causing a lot of the problems. If the minimum copay for Dr. visits was at least $100 then a LOT of folks would opt out of those visits. If it cost the individual nothing then why should they care. All of my older family members are constantly going to doctor visits.....to them it is an adventure.....an outing that allows them a reason to go out to eat at a restaurant. IF they had to pay one cent out of their own pockets a lot of that crap would stop asap.

Sorry...rant off.

You're not wrong that some people treat free visits like a social outing. But it has to be a balance. Put a $100 barrier on a doctor visit and people don't just skip the pointless ones, they skip the important ones too. Then the stuff that would've been a cheap catch at a checkup shows up later in the ER, sicker and way more expensive. The shift we need is from sick care to actual healthcare.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I have Dish with Hopper3. I choose to get local channels OTA and had a "guide list" established at my previous home. Having moved a few miles away, I wanted to update the list by appending a couple new stations via a rescan. As many would know, some stations come in with the UHF/VHF antenna aimed in one direction, while others come in better with a different direction.

Unfortunately, when a scan is done (bringing in 25-30 stations for that particular antenna aim), the dialog screen does not present the established guide list; it presents an empty field to the right that the scanned stations may be selected one by one and added to the empty guide. But because of antenna aim, some stations originally saved are missing, and would have to be retrieved with a different antenna aim. But as I explain, if a 2nd​ scan is done with a different antenna aim, the stations saved from the first scan are lost.

It troubles me that Dish didn't develop software that would allow a user to simply append only 1 or 2 channels to the established list. :mad:

Any thought on this? Has anyone experienced this or heard of this from others?
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dishstaller
I hear complaints from customers each and every day. I chose not to install OTAs with a doggle for a reason.

BTW, I like your user name


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After having continuing trouble with my eight+ year old Dell Inspiron laptop I am looking to hopefully catch a good deal on new one. My options to buy is Costco and Sam's Club. It seems like a lot of new laptops are 2 in 1 which I do not need. I use the laptop to mainly surf the web and keep up with my finances, money and bills. I would like to have at least a 15" screen and having a touchscreen is a plus. The keyboard would need to lighted also. I don't game any. It would have to be Windows instead of and not Mac. The brands I see the most are Asus, Dell and HP. My two last laptops has been Dell's. Of these brands are there any standouts over the other brands. My budget (hopefully) is $600+-. Also while researching I noticed that do not have ethernet ports.
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EarDemon
Why not do a CTO directly through the manufacture? Get exactly what you want. Plus It's quite common to find 10%% (or higher) discount codes for Dell and HP.

Backlit keyboards are pretty much standard, and in the constant effort to try to make devices and thin and dainty as possible ethernet ports are becoming rarer, if not a normal ethernet port, you may be able to find a laptop with drop-jaw style one.
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TRG
Dell and HP are usually heavily discounted during Black Friday sales. I picked up a Dell from Best Buy for 50 percent off. I ordered it online and picked it up locally at the store. Black Friday deals are just a couple of weeks away.
arlo
Can't really help with an exact set of suggestions. I can say that if you have a set budget. And $600 these days wont get you much. One thing I can say is check out Dell Refurbished.
I've suggested and even configured, ordered a few for friends who were a bit iffy in deciding what they needed and wanted.
Refurbished doesn't mean that they came back defective and were repaired. Companies and organizations who order quantities of the same computers often cancel or modify their requirements.
Dell builds usually on demand. Their direct refurbished line will be brand new, unused. Perhaps not exactly the "today" specifications of the latest-greatest. And you can get a nice pc for quite a bit less with full warranty.
Just a suggestion.
"I use the laptop to mainly surf the web and keep up with my finances, money and bills. I would like to have at least a 15" screen and having a touchscreen is a plus".

As far as Asus, HP goes. And others you may consider. I'd think $600 (new) would get you a laptop. A quality, long lasting one? Not so sure. Now. If you could get a $1000 lappy for $600. Good deal, don't you think?
Surf the web doesn't need a killer Nvidia graphics chip. Nor a pinnacle, top of the line Intel, AMD processor.
12-16 gigs of memory will get you by just fine.
I'm personally an Asus fan. Brands aside. The one thing is the batteries. We discussed that here someplace else.
I repair these critters. Batteries. Cheap laptops have cheap batteries. Asus suggests that you don't keep the charger plugged in all of the time to make them last. Like you see on phones where 85% vs full charge is suggested to preserve battery life.
harshness
Why not do a CTO directly through the manufacture?
Because there are fewer economies of scale with custom products. Savings come from giant contracts with major retailers.

RAM and GPUs make buying a computer now financial suicide. In 2023, I bought two 16GB RAM modules for my lone Windows machine. The cost was under $100. Now that equivalent RAM goes for $260.

One can opt for an on-CPU GPU, but you can't opt out of RAM. While Microsoft goes on and on about Windows 11 eventually being happy with 8GB of RAM, we know how that always ends.
Foxbat
GB is the new MB (remember when Windows used to be happy with 8 MB of RAM?)

I had great experiences with Dell's Refurbished systems in the past. I ended up getting Business desktops instead of the Home PCs since they didn't come loaded with bloatware and the one Desktop I got for Mrs. Foxbat even had a license for MS Office Professional included.
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Dang female lions don't mess around when it comes to their kiddos....aka whelps.


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TheForce
Supporting Founder Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone
Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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harshness
Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.
comfortably_numb
Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.

Or better yet, innovate something "completely revolutionary!"
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Or better yet, innovate something "completely revolutionary!"
when was the last time they innovated something:rolleyes:
Foxbat
when was the last time they innovated something:rolleyes:
I'd probably say when they came up with their M-series of processors with integrated memory. That allowed Apple to get away from the inefficient Intel CPUs that were limiting their notebook computers.
Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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osu1991
:mad:..I hate playing in Ames.
Jimbo
:mad:..I hate playing in Ames.
I hate playing in LA ... :oldmad
Buckeyes had 2 weeks off and came out and looked absolutely terrible ... broke in a new Freshman Qb, but that wasn't the worst part ... undiscipline play, at last count they had 10 penalties.
Freshman in the end of the game trying to play catch up, had a lot of Over throws ... Bucks lose ...

#1 Miami struggled but pulled away in the end beating North Carolina by 3 ...

Tuesday the CFP brings out thier Playoff Top 12 again ... Buckeyes should drop from #2 to about #22 (they won't) had they had thier Starting QB, it would have been a different game ...

They could lose the rest of thier games at this point.
Foxbat
:mad:..I hate playing in Ames.
My in-Laws came from Iowa, she was a graduate of ISU. Unranked Iowa teams beat the #24 and #25 teams on Halloween.

And I heard that your QB made a poor choice after scoring the tying touchdown, leading to a fifteen yard penalty on the ensuing kickoff. The Cyclones were then able to take advantage of the resulting field position to get close enough to score the winning field goal.

In a NCAA Football season of bizarre endings, this has to rank right up there.
osu1991
My in-Laws came from Iowa, she was a graduate of ISU. Unranked Iowa teams beat the #24 and #25 teams on Halloween.

And I heard that your QB made a poor choice after scoring the tying touchdown, leading to a fifteen yard penalty on the ensuing kickoff. The Cyclones were then able to take advantage of the resulting field position to get close enough to score the winning field goal.

In a NCAA Football season of bizarre endings, this has to rank right up there.
Yep, but wasn't the QB. Was WR. Offense had a great game but defense didn't show up at all. I don't think they were even in the State.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I had an old Wireless Joey replaced by a Wireless Joey 4 (Android TV) - still have a Hopper 3 without the Hopper Plus. What do I have to do to get the EPG to show channel logos instead of "Dish"? This is annoying as hell and it's been this way for over a month…
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B
That kind of crap annoys me to no end.
That is one reason I haven't switched to h3and the same wireless joey 4
Hope you get it resolved.
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ewindowman
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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ewindowman
Correct me if I'm wrong but Dish borrowed lots of money to start a wireless company that was most likely doomed from the beginning. They bought spectrum at any cost to acquire enough bandwidth to achieve their goal. They signed leases and bought equipment and borrowed more money. They held onto the spectrum as long as possible. They then sold most of it to different companies and made a lot of money. Then they started to screw the companies that were installing and leasing the equipment and cell towers. Now they are going to claim bankruptcy under the Dish Network part of Echo Star while they have billions of dollars. So Dish basically took everyone's money that was involved in the financial part of this transaction made a huge profit is screwing everyone over from the banks to the little guy working on the towers and infrastructure.
nelson61
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They note that the Dish Wireless radios at issue support the 2GHz and 800MHz spectrum SpaceX is acquiring from EchoStar and Grain.

"Buying compatible equipment already installed on towers could give SpaceX a head start on its wireless terrestrial network build and throw a big bucket of cold water on Verizon's four-to-six-year timeline and $300-$500 billion estimate for SpaceX's buildout," said the analysts."
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Correct me if I'm wrong but Dish borrowed lots of money to start a wireless company that was most likely doomed from the beginning. They bought spectrum at any cost to acquire enough bandwidth to achieve their goal. They signed leases and bought equipment and borrowed more money. They held onto the spectrum as long as possible. They then sold most of it to different companies and made a lot of money. Then they started to screw the companies that were installing and leasing the equipment and cell towers. Now they are going to claim bankruptcy under the Dish Network part of Echo Star while they have billions of dollars. So Dish basically took everyone's money that was involved in the financial part of this transaction made a huge profit is screwing everyone over from the banks to the little guy working on the towers and infrastructure.
i heard charlie went to dubai begging for money. but he didn't get none... that should have raised red flags.
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They note that the Dish Wireless radios at issue support the 2GHz and 800MHz spectrum SpaceX is acquiring from EchoStar and Grain.

"Buying compatible equipment already installed on towers could give SpaceX a head start on its wireless terrestrial network build and throw a big bucket of cold water on Verizon's four-to-six-year timeline and $300-$500 billion estimate for SpaceX's buildout," said the analysts."
Back when Dish was installing antennas everywhere for their internet service I mapped several of the tower locations around me. One is less than a mile away from me and several more about three miles away in several different directions. If SpaceX does something with these I may be in a prime spot.
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