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All four of our Joeys continue to have problems. They work for awhile (after a Hopper reboot) and then won't tune a live channel. It ends up going to the TV Activity screen showing the active tuners in use (with plenty available) or it will say 0 of 0 tuners available at the top and rest blank, or the channel banner will appear at the top but the screen is black with nothing. You have no choice but to go in and reboot the Hopper 3 and wait for everything to come back up. It may work for awhile but then will go out again with the same issues. Tonight the programming guide descriptions disappeared and the AutoHop logo on the recorded shows disappeared and a recorded show didn't offer to AutoHop when it should have.

I have called Dish support three times now. We've done a partial reset, a whole home reset, and the support agent went in and looked at the Hopper through the internet. They just say everything looks fine to them and have never offered to have someone come out and look at things. They've taken notes and submitted it to an engineering department, so I don't know if we just wait to hear from them or what is next? They never offer any type of bill credit for the trouble either...

We have a Hopper 3 with four Joeys--3 wireless, 1 wired. The issue is on all four Joeys. I'm about ready to just cancel it all. We pay $130 a month and have to reboot the Hopper 5 times a day now.
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I wanted to follow up with this. I talked to Dish tech support three different times and the last two people said they would "report" the problem to engineering and that it was a known issue with others having the same complaint. They never offered to send anyone out to the house so I finally called a local Dish retailer. He decided to redo the wire from the wall coax outlet to the crawl space from RG59 to RG6. Even though it was a short run of RG59, he still felt it could be causing the problem. He said a weak signal line couldn't support the 16 tuners and therefore was likely causing the problem. So far, that has fixed the problem. Dish Tech Support never called back or followed up with any solution. For all they know we are rebooting our Hopper 4-5 times a day still.
HipKat
I wanted to follow up with this. I talked to Dish tech support three different times and the last two people said they would "report" the problem to engineering and that it was a known issue with others having the same complaint. They never offered to send anyone out to the house so I finally called a local Dish retailer. He decided to redo the wire from the wall coax outlet to the crawl space from RG59 to RG6. Even though it was a short run of RG59, he still felt it could be causing the problem. He said a weak signal line couldn't support the 16 tuners and therefore was likely causing the problem. So far, that has fixed the problem. Dish Tech Support never called back or followed up with any solution. For all they know we are rebooting our Hopper 4-5 times a day still.

Wait, you had RG59 running to the Hopper? That's the exact problem. The Hopper needs 3Ghz cable because unlike legacy, which I think uses up to 1800Mhz or VIP, which uses up to 21Mhz, the Hopper uses the entire 3000Mhz spectrum.
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Wait, you had RG59 running to the Hopper? That's the exact problem. The Hopper needs 3Ghz cable because unlike legacy, which I think uses up to 1800Mhz or VIP, which uses up to 21Mhz, the Hopper uses the entire 3000Mhz spectrum.

The coax wall outlet in the house were RG59. The wires all come together under the house. The coax wire from the dish outside had been run under the house to the Hybrid Solo Hub and then the RG59 wire from it to the wall outlet. This was corrected. I don't know why the installer didn't do that when the Hopper 3 was put in.
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The coax wall outlet in the house were RG59. The wires all come together under the house. The coax wire from the dish outside had been run under the house to the Hybrid Solo Hub and then the RG59 wire from it to the wall outlet. This was corrected. I don't know why the installer didn't do that when the Hopper 3 was put in.

Because he was lazy. Period.
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Because he was lazy. Period.
Probably...my cousin had such a bad technician a few weeks back for a new install...they got the old Hopper and the dish wasn't put on the house correctly. Another one had to come back and install a second dish for some reason...we need 119, 110, and 129 in this area. People don't have two dishes outside.
HipKat
Probably...my cousin had such a bad technician a few weeks back for a new install...they got the old Hopper and the dish wasn't put on the house correctly. Another one had to come back and install a second dish for some reason...we need 119, 110, and 129 in this area. People don't have two dishes outside.

There was no issues with line of sight? I've used 2 dishes from 2 different spots to get all 3 sets in, but regardless, I follow poor work all the time and I have no patience for laziness. You have to live with what I do at your house.
pattykay
I wanted to follow up with this. I talked to Dish tech support three different times and the last two people said they would "report" the problem to engineering and that it was a known issue with others having the same complaint. They never offered to send anyone out to the house so I finally called a local Dish retailer. He decided to redo the wire from the wall coax outlet to the crawl space from RG59 to RG6. Even though it was a short run of RG59, he still felt it could be causing the problem. He said a weak signal line couldn't support the 16 tuners and therefore was likely causing the problem. So far, that has fixed the problem. Dish Tech Support never called back or followed up with any solution. For all they know we are rebooting our Hopper 4-5 times a day still.
Is your Hopper connected to the internet? If so, they can tell that you are no longer rebooting it. :)
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Tom Seim
We were losing connection between one or both of our Joeys regularly. It began at a rate of once a month and then got steadily worse until it was several times a day. Each time we had to reset the Hopper and the Joeys to get it working. I concluded there was a problem with the WAP (wireless access point), the small black box connected to the Hopper). I also found from another thread on this topic that the tech used the old DirecTV RG59 cable from the antenna to the jack inside the house. RG59 MUST NOT be used for newer Dish equipment because it does not have adequate bandwidth to support the 3GHz signals. RG6 must be used instead. You can tell the difference by the size of the cable (RG59 is 0.25" in diameter, RG6 is 0.275"). There should also be labelling on the cable. Replacing both the RG59 and the WAP solved the problem (I suspect that replacing the RG59 alone would have fixed it but wasn't going to go thru the trouble of two separate service calls).
Getting Dish to send out a tech was not easy because they would not do anything about it unless we paid $95 for a service call. Dish said our equipment was out of warranty. I asked to speak to a supervisor (I figured we were renting their equipment which was defective) and she gave me 3 months free of the Dish Protect plan (I have to cancel it or I will be charged $10 per month after 3 months). If they don't do this for you sign up for Dish Protect and cancel it after the equipment is repaired.
This all started on a Saturday and Dish had a tech out the next day - a Sunday, so I was very impressed with that part of the ordeal!
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Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
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dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?
We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.

Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life. 🍺

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Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.

Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life. 🍺

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Leftovers for lunch, bacon wrapped salmon fillet from Saturday and a KFC thigh from Friday, Tea.
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Congrats! I love retirement, no wake ups, no e-mails...
Leftovers for lunch, bacon wrapped salmon fillet from Saturday and a KFC thigh from Friday, Tea.
I've been retired since October. It was very strange at first. But I'm loving it now.
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Creamy flat chicken enchiladas with green chile, beans and rice.

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Layered Spicy Dorito / chili cheese Frito pie casserole…real sugar Pepsi
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I had a very unusual but delicious 1/4lb hotdog with cream cheese, raspberry preserves and chopped Hatch green chile. It is an unlikely combination but it works.


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Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
New low power station has been granted by the FCC and the new call leter is K33OB-D on RF ch. 33.

Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.

It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.

This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.😎
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N5XZS
Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets on like the Rev'n, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2
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Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets like Revn, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2

I watch MovieSphere Gold channel a lot. Many recent movies on that digitnet :)
N5XZS
Yes that's a good channel MovieSphere, only thing is the missing CC on it. :rolleyes: :hatsoff2
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According to the FCC listing, the tower is near I-40 and Juan Tabo:

primestar31
According to the FCC listing, the tower is near I-40 and Juan Tabo:

Many of these in my DMA are on cell towers, so don't always reach very far because the towers aren't very high.
zippyfrog
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
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zippyfrog
However, when I make a change (tried to add the Columbian pack for $2 so I could generate my bill) and there is a new line - it says "Access for TV" - whereas previously that line item was not there. I hope they aren't charging $5.00 for the initial TV now...

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Apparently it's not an "owned receiver" fee but rather an extension fee that's applied to 2nd and subsequent viewing. Maybe that played into their decision to force a box at every TV- garnering those fees
zippyfrog
Apparently it's not an "owned receiver" fee but rather an extension fee that's applied to 2nd and subsequent viewing. Maybe that played into their decision to force a box at every TV- garnering those fees
Possibly. In theory, $9 of the base pack has a rental fee built in. But now is this $5 a chance to get a little more? I don't know for sure. According to chat, it is a glitch and will be resolved in a timely manner, but we shall see. Part of my thinks there is a going to be a new charge, whether it is now or this fall. Here in Illinois, the law requires we are given 30 days notice of any fee changes, but I have not been given anything.

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MikeD-C05
These fees are why streaming has caught on so well across the country and DISH is losing subs each quarter. Soon won't be enough subs to be profitable.
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Does cable charge box rent?
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Bruce
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
With the 1st Quarter Report just released, Dish lost another 180,000, now at 4.84 Million.

Sling now at 1.79 million subscribers, down approximately 190,000.

For comparison, YouTube TV now has about double the subscribers of Dish and Sling combined.

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fmj77
I'm surprised Dish still has that many subscribers. I don't know a single person in my area that is still with them after getting either Starlink or fiber at their home. They all cancelled Dish and went with streaming. I used to get offers pretty regularly in the mail to come back to Dish, but no more. Haven't seen one in a couple of years now.
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Bruce
I'm surprised Dish still has that many subscribers. I don't know a single person in my area that is still with them after getting either Starlink or fiber at their home. They all cancelled Dish and went with streaming. I used to get offers pretty regularly in the mail to come back to Dish, but no more. Haven't seen one in a couple of years now.
Only about 3.6% of Households in the United States, still have Dish Network.

For comparison, YouTube TV has about 10%.
Y
$25 a month for 1 gig, for two years with Spectrum. I'd be darned that their router was MUCH better than AT&T's. I didn't realize that what I thought was something else was the bloody router. Those buffering issues stopped when I swapped... after AT&T refused to lower my bill, after 25 years of high speed internet service. They wanted $80 or so a month for 1 gig, with no drop to a lower speed.
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I despise that most of all. I'm going to talk to a remote?
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$25 a month for 1 gig, for two years with Spectrum. I'd be darned that their router was MUCH better than AT&T's. I didn't realize that what I thought was something else was the bloody router. Those buffering issues stopped when I swapped... after AT&T refused to lower my bill, after 25 years of high speed internet service. They wanted $80 or so a month for 1 gig, with no drop to a lower speed.


1gbit up and down here from att start out great was suppose to be $60 for life of service, with years time it went back up to $80 I complained about they gave us $49 for year which about to end, I Wonder what prices will be when it "up" I in no way like ATT fiber service there DNS that are hardcode and unchange able in the router are some WORSE DNS I ever used. you know how much of pain it is to change DNS setting on EVERY single wireless device...
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mwdxer1
Only about 3.6% of Households in the United States, still have Dish Network.

For comparison, YouTube TV has about 10%.
I dropped Dish a couple years back after having them for 25 years. The pricing got higher and after we got high speed internet, I watched it less and less. It got to the point all I watched was TCM for classic movies. Many of them are on You Tube now and a Premium subscription is $14 a month. A far cry of the $100 a month was paying with AT180, Supers, and locals. I get locals OTA anyway. I took down the dish several months ago and tossed it. I owned all my my equipment, so nothing to return. Do I miss a traditional cable type service? No way. If I want one I have all of the free live streaming with Roku, the Fire Stick, as well as Google TV. Right now as I type this, I am watching episodes of "The Midnight Special" from 1976 on You Tube, ad free. Dish was fine for many years. I do not regret buying the equipment and installing it myself (No installers in 1999). I enjoyed Dish for many years. My thoughts, Dish & Direct will be forced to merge in time, or they both will be gone. Even cable companies are getting out of TV. Some are only selling the internet and phone packages.
tanman
I despise that most of all. I'm going to talk to a remote?
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nelson61
A lot of it flows back to the 4 big networks.
Cable and satellite are their money tree.

But, in reality, each market need 1 or perhaps 2 news feeds - not 4 or more
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MikeD-C05
A lot of it flows back to the 4 big networks.
Cable and satellite are their money tree.

But, in reality, each market need 1 or perhaps 2 news feeds - not 4 or more
In my area we get 2 news feeds spread over 4 local stations.
ABC/NBC (TEGNA)
Same news cast simulcast over both channels.

CBS/Fox (Sinclair)
Same news casters at 5pm, 6pm, 10pm.
Fox shows an hour at 9pm but same news casters.
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lordodogg
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV General Forum
Hello again, haven't posted here in a while.

This morning, around 6:30am, I woke up and found the front panel lights on my HR44 on (I leave it off all the time as it is co-located with one of my Geminis).

Immediately thinking that either a reboot or power outage occurred, I checked the software version, and found that it's still the same release that was sent out last month.

I then ruled out a power outage by checking the clocks on my appliances and seeing that they're still correct (they reset when there's an outage, somewhat similar to the "blinking 12" on VCRs).

I then confirmed a reboot by checking the Upcoming Recordings (fka To-Do List) and seeing that the number was much lower than before (it always resets after a reboot).

I am definitely guessing what happened (and it may very well be actually what happened) is that the "Reset Required" prompt may have come up sometime overnight, and it eventually timed out and rebooted automatically. IIRC that prompt comes up when new software "plugins" have to be installed.

Would like to hear your thoughts, especially since I probably haven't talked to some of you reading this in a while (was a former CE member, left almost a year ago).

Thank you all in advance!
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Tom Speer
My HR54 blue light is on this morning. I think you ae right about the plugins. They are tweaking things in the customer National release. What version does your HR44 Genie have now? I think you are probably on the same varsion as the CE group today.
lordodogg
I believe mine says 0x1D7F
Tom Speer
That is what I have.
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Happened again today & have new software, 0x1d88