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Bucknut33

Last reply Apr 23, 2018 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Upcoming Installation question

We are getting dish installed next week. Hopper 3 and wireless joey. However, our cable internet is currently installed in the hookup where the hopper 3 will be installed. Will this be a problem for the installer? Thanks for your help. Appreciate it!

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Claude Greiner

Apr 22, 2018

That's the Dish Techs problem to figure out a solution if the cable internet is already using the outlet.

If they need to run a new wire they need to run a new wire.

If the tech doesn't want to run a new wire, then they can relocate the cable modem if they want to reuse the existing wire.

Remember if you had no existing wiring the tech would run all new wires. That's part of the basic install.

Never let the tech try to tell you to call the cable company to move the modem so they can use the line that was already being used.
Or vice versa

It's just as bad as a lady I hooked with Dish and got Comcast internet.

She didn't have Comcast internet when we hooked up the Dish, so we used the existing wiring.

So Comcast comes out, their tech disconnects the dish to the room where we had the computer, then tells the customer to call us to run a new wire because we used "their" wiring.

I get called out and I gave the customer 2 choices.

1) pay me to run a new line from the dish

2) I'll hook the dish back up the way we had it and you can call Comcast back to do their job right and run a new wire like they where supposed to.

Needless to say I hooked it back up the way we had it and she called Comcast back.

The rule is if the line is not being used it's fair game. I don't care what name it says on the cable.

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Dish Sub 2015

Apr 23, 2018

If there is a option for new line to the hopper, you run a new line, but if there is no option for new line?
If you relocate the Internet in 80% of the cases will work just fine, but some times the signal is to weak or to strong or the line is not good... and what will happend after that? Customer will call the cable company, their tech will come over, disconnect the dish cables, put splitters all over the place and then you need to go again to fix it!

If you live in nice house and dont want more wires hanging on the siding is way better to call the cable company first to have your Internet relocated.
Get the right person for the right job!

bwexler

Apr 23, 2018

I would specify when I placed the order and again when I great the installer how and where I wanted the NEW cables run. If I got any negative feedback I would halt the installation until I got full agreement on my requests or they convinced me of a better solution .
My cable Internet was obviously placed where I wanted it, close to my computer or in a wiring closet. I would not change that unless I was also moving my computer.
The WiFi function is best placed near the center of the house or at least the center of Internet activities. Unfortunately in my home that was not possible so almost every is wired gigabit connections.

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Claude Greiner

Apr 23, 2018

On another note if you want new wire ran, sometimes it's best to remove the wiring so it has to be replaced then try to tell the installer to run a new line.

It's like my own techs. I'll look at a job beforehand and tell them to run all new lines on a job.

They will come back and say everything is good and they used existing lines.

Sure enough 2 months later we get a service call, lines need to replace and of course now the tech wants to get paid because it's a service call.

I had another job 4 hours away and they had some crappy wiring. The tech I took with me and he would have rather spent 2 hours tracing out the crappy wiring in a 12 unit motel, then spend 6 hours running all new wires.

I reminded the tech it's 4 hours there, 4 hours back plus gas, and mileage.

Spend the extra 4 hours doing it right and never have to come back again.

But most techs are lazy like this. They want to get in and out, which mostly happens with contractors or direct employees as they likely are not the ones coming back to fix it.

Unlike a retailer

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HipKat

Apr 23, 2018

Claude Greiner said:
On another note if you want new wire ran, sometimes it's best to remove the wiring so it has to be replaced then try to tell the installer to run a new line.

It's like my own techs. I'll look at a job beforehand and tell them to run all new lines on a job.

They will come back and say everything is good and they used existing lines.

Sure enough 2 months later we get a service call, lines need to replace and of course now the tech wants to get paid because it's a service call.

I had another job 4 hours away and they had some crappy wiring. The tech I took with me and he would have rather spent 2 hours tracing out the crappy wiring in a 12 unit motel, then spend 6 hours running all new wires.

I reminded the tech it's 4 hours there, 4 hours back plus gas, and mileage.

Spend the extra 4 hours doing it right and never have to come back again.

But most techs are lazy like this. They want to get in and out, which mostly happens with contractors or direct employees as they likely are not the ones coming back to fix it.

Unlike a retailer

This contractor chooses to take the extra time to do it right

And then laugh at the guys who give me a hard time about it with high TC rates while mine is sitting at 0% right now

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Scott Greczkowski

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osu1991

Pub Member / Supporter

Last reply Today at 2:44 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

USA Healthcare Costs are Ridiculous

Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.

Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.

After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.

I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.

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vazhog

Yesterday at 4:05 PM

that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -

Foxbat

Today at 12:33 PM

Why isn't this Political thread over in the Pit? This is why there is a Pit, and why I rarely use the Chit Chat Club. But someone said, "The Pub is Elitist since you have to pay dues to enter, so please post in the Chit Chat forum so more guests can read and participate."

harshness

Today at 1:19 PM

Foxbat said:
Why isn't this Political thread over in the Pit?

Because health care shouldn't be a political issue?

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 2:19 PM

vazhog said:
that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -

what about the welfare kings and queens

osu1991

Today at 2:41 PM

Foxbat said:
Why isn't this Political thread over in the Pit? This is why there is a Pit, and why I rarely use the Chit Chat Club. But someone said, "The Pub is Elitist since you have to pay dues to enter, so please post in the Chit Chat forum so more guests can read and participate."

I didn't start it as a political statement and have no interest in the political BS of this country. Everyone wants to make everything political nowadays. This was just my rant over the outrageous increase in my premiums and how unaffordable healthcare is becoming to the average person here.

admin can close or delete it if they don't want here.

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Bobby

Today at 2:44 PM

Foxbat said:
Why isn't this Political thread over in the Pit? This is why there is a Pit, and why I rarely use the Chit Chat Club. But someone said, "The Pub is Elitist since you have to pay dues to enter, so please post in the Chit Chat forum so more guests can read and participate."

There are no dues to be paid to be in the Pit. You just have to use the password which is clearly shown when you try to log in to it.

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telebiker

Last reply Today at 1:56 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Hopper and Dish Hopper Plus No Alexa in settings

I have Dish Hopper and Hopper Plus and also have Alexa Echo. I link the Alex skill to Dish and it asks me to enter the pairing code shown on the TV. I go into Dish Settings and there is no Alexa shown. Not sure what to do.

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Harryhaggle

Mar 18, 2026

Understood. But here's the rub - Google Assistant setup is ALSO missing from the Hopper Plus setup. I'm a paraplegic.and need to use voice controls as much as possible but I can't press a button on the remote to activate Google Assistant. I prefer ALEXA (or ALEXA+) but I have one older google device and will go that route IF they make it available. BTW calling Dish Customer Service is no help- they just say they have no info on if/when there will be an update.

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navychop

Mar 18, 2026

Ungood.

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reubenray

Oct 18, 2026

What is the purpose of connecting Alexa and the H3?

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navychop

Oct 18, 2026

Tell Alexa verbally what to do.

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snissen

Today at 1:56 PM

reubenray said:
What is the purpose of connecting Alexa and the H3?

I stand up from my chair with my glass in one hand and my plate in the other, when a story I really want to hear comes on the TV. So I say, "Alexa, pause DISH", and it waits for me to return from the kitchen, at which time I say, "Alexa, resume DISH".

Or maybe, when I return with a full glass in one hand and a new plate in the other, I realize I forgot to pause to hear this good story from its start. So I say, "Alexa, skip DISH backwards 3 minutes", and I still get to catch the whole story.

I use this every day. Or until I acquire a third hand.

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dishstaller

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Last reply Today at 1:05 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Claude's site is still up and running. New link required

I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

DishRetailer

America's Oldest Satellite Forum!

satelliteretailer.com

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 5:34 PM

If any of you know some of the guys from the board and you have their contact info, please reach out to them....many failed to update their contact info and some even had starband email addresses.

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Scott Greczkowski

Yesterday at 8:29 PM

dishstaller said:
I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

DishRetailer

America's Oldest Satellite Forum!

satelliteretailer.com

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.

Now I have to go check out what happened now. Lol!

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Scott Greczkowski

Yesterday at 8:31 PM

Went and looked, not too bad...

Just let people know the address is satelliteretailer.com as DishRetailer.COM is not working.

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(((Garyd)))

Today at 1:05 PM

dishstaller said:
If any of you know some of the guys from the board and you have their contact info, please reach out to them....many failed to update their contact info and some even had starband email addresses.

Your old link triggered my Bitdefender today.

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Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th

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Almighty1

Oct 7, 2026

EchoStar fixes some of its mess, but there's much more to mop up

EchoStar's satellite TV and Sling TV services have exited Chapter 11, but clouds still hover above Dish Wireless, which faces a multitude of lawsuits.

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Bruce

Today at 7:11 AM

News about the tower's dispute-

Towercos now own Dish's 5G radios – and SpaceX might be a buyer

Tower companies now own Dish's deserted 5G gear, says American Tower CEO Steven Vondran. This could feed into SpaceX's mobile ambitions, analysts say.

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comfortably_numb

Today at 9:50 AM

Bruce said:
News about the tower's dispute-

Towercos now own Dish's 5G radios – and SpaceX might be a buyer

Tower companies now own Dish's deserted 5G gear, says American Tower CEO Steven Vondran. This could feed into SpaceX's mobile ambitions, analysts say.

www.lightreading.com

So does this mean the churches and businesses that Dish owes back payments to are going to get paid now?

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Today at 1:01 PM

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They note that the Dish Wireless radios at issue support the 2GHz and 800MHz spectrum SpaceX is acquiring from EchoStar and Grain.

"Buying compatible equipment already installed on towers could give SpaceX a head start on its wireless terrestrial network build and throw a big bucket of cold water on Verizon's four-to-six-year timeline and $300-$500 billion estimate for SpaceX's buildout," said the analysts."

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dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply Today at 12:40 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
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harshness

Oct 18, 2026

I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

harshness

Oct 20, 2026

harshness said:
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.

Foxbat

Oct 20, 2026

harshness said:
It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.

Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.

Bobby

Oct 21, 2026

Regular$5.839
Premium$6.299
Diesel$7.999
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

harshness

Oct 21, 2026

Foxbat said:
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price?

Winter blend is reportedly 10-30 cents cheaper, but I would point out that prices have dropped as much as 62 cents at RP.

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Bobby

Today at 11:03 AM

Regular$5.699
Premium$6.199
Diesel$7.999
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

osu1991

Today at 11:26 AM

Was just out running errands and saw $3.69 at most places

dfergie

Today at 12:40 PM

$4.04 most places, Diesel $5.85...

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