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Last reply May 3, 2018 · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

Considering buying an HR54 to replace a dead HR34

Hi, Our HR34 Genie's hard drive had been trying to die for a long time and finally did 4 days ago. Our setup as installed by Directv when we moved to a different home in 2014, was the HR34 in one room, a C31 Genie Mini in a second room and an older HR22 (one of three HD-DVR's we brought with us from our old home) in a third room.

Near our network router in one room is a what I believe to be a DECA with Ethernet from our router as one input, a SAT cable that is connected to a DC to RF converter into a second input and then the output being a SAT cable that goes to one splitter connector (the "power pass" connector) of a 1 to 4 splitter. So that, I assume, puts power and internet into this 1 to 4 splitter. Right?? Then the three other outputs of that splitter go through the house and to the three DVR's, one straight into the now dead HR34, one straight in to the now disconnected Genie Mini (C31) and then the last one through a DECA (used in the other direction from the one above) to split out Internet onto an Ethernet cable and SAT onto a SAT cable, with the Internet cable and the SAT cable then connected to the HR22 DVR.

First, does that sound right???

Second, here are my few questions.

1. The HR34 must be capable of pulling Ethernet right off the SAT+Internet cable that is the only thing we plug into the HR34. In fact, there is an Ethernet connection on the back of the HR34 and it has a little cover over it. Does the HR54 do the same??? Or does it connect wirelessly?? But if I don't want wireless, can it pull Internet off the SAT+Internet cable just like the HR34 does???

2. Will my older C31 Genie Mini work with an HR54 or do I need to buy a newer version??? Solid Signal shows two Genie Mini's.

DIRECTV Genie Mini Client Receiver for Genie HD DVR (GENIEMINI) or,

DIRECTV 4K Genie Mini Client for All Genie DVRs and Receivers (C61K)

So C61K or a GENIEMINI, both $100??? Or will my existing C31 work with an HR54 if I don't care about 4k TV???

3. Am I correct to assume one must have an internet connection in order for the Whole Home capability to work??? Our two HR20's are not on the network as I would need two more DECA's to get them connected. As it stands today, Whole Home says "Authorized" but "No networked DVRs found". So I have to get whatever I have on the network, right???

4. Is the 44 the same as the 54??? I'd like the newer hardware but it will cost me $299 to buy one from Solid vs. $20 for S&H from Directv and I would get either a 44 or 54 from Directv. I'm still likely going to buy a 54 but I could be talked out of it.

Any help on the above questions would be much appreciated...

thanks

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Joe891

May 1, 2018

diitto said:
Hi, Our HR34 Genie's hard drive had been trying to die for a long time and finally did 4 days ago. Our setup as installed by Directv when we moved to a different home in 2014, was the HR34 in one room, a C31 Genie Mini in a second room and an older HR22 (one of three HD-DVR's we brought with us from our old home) in a third room.

Near our network router in one room is a what I believe to be a DECA with Ethernet from our router as one input, a SAT cable that is connected to a DC to RF converter into a second input and then the output being a SAT cable that goes to one splitter connector (the "power pass" connector) of a 1 to 4 splitter. So that, I assume, puts power and internet into this 1 to 4 splitter. Right?? Then the three other outputs of that splitter go through the house and to the three DVR's, one straight into the now dead HR34, one straight in to the now disconnected Genie Mini (C31) and then the last one through a DECA (used in the other direction from the one above) to split out Internet onto an Ethernet cable and SAT onto a SAT cable, with the Internet cable and the SAT cable then connected to the HR22 DVR.

First, does that sound right???

Second, here are my few questions.

1. The HR34 must be capable of pulling Ethernet right off the SAT+Internet cable that is the only thing we plug into the HR34. In fact, there is an Ethernet connection on the back of the HR34 and it has a little cover over it. Does the HR54 do the same??? Or does it connect wirelessly?? But if I don't want wireless, can it pull Internet off the SAT+Internet cable just like the HR34 does???

2. Will my older C31 Genie Mini work with an HR54 or do I need to buy a newer version??? Solid Signal shows two Genie Mini's.

DIRECTV Genie Mini Client Receiver for Genie HD DVR (GENIEMINI) or,

DIRECTV 4K Genie Mini Client for All Genie DVRs and Receivers (C61K)

So C61K or a GENIEMINI, both $100??? Or will my existing C31 work with an HR54 if I don't care about 4k TV???

3. Am I correct to assume one must have an internet connection in order for the Whole Home capability to work??? Our two HR20's are not on the network as I would need two more DECA's to get them connected. As it stands today, Whole Home says "Authorized" but "No networked DVRs found". So I have to get whatever I have on the network, right???

4. Is the 44 the same as the 54??? I'd like the newer hardware but it will cost me $299 to buy one from Solid vs. $20 for S&H from Directv and I would get either a 44 or 54 from Directv. I'm still likely going to buy a 54 but I could be talked out of it.

Any help on the above questions would be much appreciated...

thanks

1. Yes you can still use a deca, the hr44 and 54 both can connect Ethernet WiFi or deca.
2. Yes your c31 will still work
3. No whole home just requires they be on the same home coax network known as a moca network.
4. The difference between the 44 and 54 is internal hardware so for speed purposes the 54 is going to be faster. Also if you decided to get 4K as the 44 will not support the 4K streams for the c61

diitto

May 1, 2018

Joe891 said:
1. Yes you can still use a deca, the hr44 and 54 both can connect Ethernet WiFi or deca.
2. Yes your c31 will still work
3. No whole home just requires they be on the same home coax network known as a moca network.
4. The difference between the 44 and 54 is internal hardware so for speed purposes the 54 is going to be faster. Also if you decided to get 4K as the 44 will not support the 4K streams for the c61

Hi Joe891, hmmm, one question. About #3. My former three boxes were the HR22, the HR34 and its C31 Mini (3 rooms, 3 TV's). Whole Home worked. Now I've removed the HR34 and the Mini and simply hooked precisely the same cables (same splitter, etc) into two older HR20's we had in storage?? But I see the message as I said above "No Networked DVR's Found" under the Whole Home setting??? Although it says "Authorized" as if the service is available if knew how to hook it up??? What am I missing on that one???

thanks

Jackonearth

May 2, 2018

diitto said:
Hi, Our HR34 Genie's hard drive had been trying to die for a long time and finally did 4 days ago. Our setup as installed by Directv when we moved to a different home in 2014, was the HR34 in one room, a C31 Genie Mini in a second room and an older HR22 (one of three HD-DVR's we brought with us from our old home) in a third room.

Near our network router in one room is a what I believe to be a DECA with Ethernet from our router as one input, a SAT cable that is connected to a DC to RF converter into a second input and then the output being a SAT cable that goes to one splitter connector (the "power pass" connector) of a 1 to 4 splitter. So that, I assume, puts power and internet into this 1 to 4 splitter. Right?? Then the three other outputs of that splitter go through the house and to the three DVR's, one straight into the now dead HR34, one straight in to the now disconnected Genie Mini (C31) and then the last one through a DECA (used in the other direction from the one above) to split out Internet onto an Ethernet cable and SAT onto a SAT cable, with the Internet cable and the SAT cable then connected to the HR22 DVR.

First, does that sound right???

Second, here are my few questions.

1. The HR34 must be capable of pulling Ethernet right off the SAT+Internet cable that is the only thing we plug into the HR34. In fact, there is an Ethernet connection on the back of the HR34 and it has a little cover over it. Does the HR54 do the same??? Or does it connect wirelessly?? But if I don't want wireless, can it pull Internet off the SAT+Internet cable just like the HR34 does???

2. Will my older C31 Genie Mini work with an HR54 or do I need to buy a newer version??? Solid Signal shows two Genie Mini's.

DIRECTV Genie Mini Client Receiver for Genie HD DVR (GENIEMINI) or,

DIRECTV 4K Genie Mini Client for All Genie DVRs and Receivers (C61K)

So C61K or a GENIEMINI, both $100??? Or will my existing C31 work with an HR54 if I don't care about 4k TV???

3. Am I correct to assume one must have an internet connection in order for the Whole Home capability to work??? Our two HR20's are not on the network as I would need two more DECA's to get them connected. As it stands today, Whole Home says "Authorized" but "No networked DVRs found". So I have to get whatever I have on the network, right???

4. Is the 44 the same as the 54??? I'd like the newer hardware but it will cost me $299 to buy one from Solid vs. $20 for S&H from Directv and I would get either a 44 or 54 from Directv. I'm still likely going to buy a 54 but I could be talked out of it.

Any help on the above questions would be much appreciated...

thanks

I'm surprised nobody mentioned this already but if you buy a Directv receiver from Solid Signal, you aren't actually buying it, you won't own it. It'll still be a lease. You'll be spending $300 for nothing.
If you want the HR54 from Directv, just ask for 4K and make sure you don't get the HS17 because Directv doesn't allow any other DVR on your account with it. So the HR54 is the only 4K capable receiver that will allow you to keep your other DVRs. If you get the HR54, you better ask for a newer, faster Genie mini client. Maybe ask for a 4K Genie mini.
Also, if the only thing that's wrong with your HR34 is the hard drive, you can just plug an external hard drive into the eSATA port on the back of the DVR and it will start working again. This is a popular trick to increase recording capacity. The external hard drive replaces the internal drive whether it's working or not.

jacobryanc

May 2, 2018

diitto said:
Hi Joe891, hmmm, one question. About #3. My former three boxes were the HR22, the HR34 and its C31 Mini (3 rooms, 3 TV's). Whole Home worked. Now I've removed the HR34 and the Mini and simply hooked precisely the same cables (same splitter, etc) into two older HR20's we had in storage?? But I see the message as I said above "No Networked DVR's Found" under the Whole Home setting??? Although it says "Authorized" as if the service is available if knew how to hook it up??? What am I missing on that one???

thanks

The HR34 was the first version of the "Genie." The C31 relies on a genie server and cannot operate on it's own. It's considered a client and needs a server to function.

diitto

May 2, 2018

Jackonearth said:
I'm surprised nobody mentioned this already but if you buy a Directv receiver from Solid Signal, you aren't actually buying it, you won't own it. It'll still be a lease. You'll be spending $300 for nothing.
If you want the HR54 from Directv, just ask for 4K and make sure you don't get the HS17 because Directv doesn't allow any other DVR on your account with it. So the HR54 is the only 4K capable receiver that will allow you to keep your other DVRs. If you get the HR54, you better ask for a newer, faster Genie mini client. Maybe ask for a 4K Genie mini.
Also, if the only thing that's wrong with your HR34 is the hard drive, you can just plug an external hard drive into the eSATA port on the back of the DVR and it will start working again. This is a popular trick to increase recording capacity. The external hard drive replaces the internal drive whether it's working or not.

Hi, Yes, I know about the lease deal. Directv's been doing that for a number of years. My only motive was to get newer and perhaps better supported hardware. I wanted an HR44 when we got the HR34 3 1/2 years ago when we moved to our current home, so the 44 has been around for a few years now. Granted, paying $300 just to get somewhat newer hardware might not make the most sense. But that's all I was trying to accomplish.

Also, interesting to know the eSATA trick on the HR34.

Jimbo

May 2, 2018

diitto said:
Hi, Yes, I know about the lease deal. Directv's been doing that for a number of years. My only motive was to get newer and perhaps better supported hardware. I wanted an HR44 when we got the HR34 3 1/2 years ago when we moved to our current home, so the 44 has been around for a few years now. Granted, paying $300 just to get somewhat newer hardware might not make the most sense. But that's all I was trying to accomplish.

Also, interesting to know the eSATA trick on the HR34.

Just get ahold of D* and tell them your picking up a 4k TV and they will give you a HR54 or HS17, tell them you don't want a HS17 IF you have other recvrs in the system.

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Claude Greiner

May 3, 2018

Call Directv and see if they have any upgrades to a genie 2 or an HR54 with 4K minis.

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Smuuth

Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge

Last reply 46 minutes ago · posted in SatelliteGuys Classifieds

WANTED DirecTV LCC

Anyone have a DirecTV Local Channel Connector that you'd like to get rid of at a reasonable price? DirecTV is currently in a contract dispute with owner of my local ABC affiliate.

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b4pjoe

Jun 2, 2026

Smuuth said:
Anyone have a DirecTV Local Channel Connector that you'd like to get rid of at a reasonable price? DirecTV is currently in a contract dispute with owner of my local ABC affiliate.

You should ask DIRECTV for one if you are affected by the dispute. I know in the past they have given them out during a dispute. Not sure if they still do that but it is free to ask.

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Smuuth

Jun 2, 2026

b4pjoe said:
You should ask DIRECTV for one if you are affected by the dispute. I know in the past they have given them out during a dispute. Not sure if they still do that but it is free to ask.

I already asked, but the CS agent said they wouldn't do it. They said the only thing they could do is $10/month bill credit.

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Jimbo

Jun 3, 2026

Smuuth said:
I already asked, but the CS agent said they wouldn't do it. They said the only thing they could do is $10/month bill credit.

Take the $10 and Call Back ...

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Smuuth

Monday at 10:22 AM

Jimbo said:
Take the $10 and Call Back ...

I did that. The response was that the LCC is not available. Escalated the issue to a tech support person with the same results.

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Jimbo

Monday at 10:39 AM

Smuuth said:
I did that. The response was that the LCC is not available. Escalated the issue to a tech support person with the same results.

Could be out of them I guess ... I'd keep trying, every 3-4 days.

If they are not out of them as them WHY you can't get one, seeing Your in a Dispute. Thats what they are for.
I would make them give you a real answer, don't let them off the hook.

I had one, and it worked well, but I believe I gave it to another D* friend (also had a AM21), I know I gave them away ...

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Smuuth

Monday at 10:44 AM

Jimbo said:
Could be out of them I guess ... I'd keep trying, every 3-4 days.

If they are not out of them as them WHY you can't get one, seeing Your in a Dispute. Thats what they are for.

According to the tech support guy, they don't have any in stock. He said I should receive an email when and if they have them. I even told him I would accept a refurbished unit.

Jimbo

Monday at 10:45 AM

Smuuth said:
According to the tech support guy, they don't have any in stock. He said I should receive an email when and if they have them. I even told him I would accept a refurbished unit.

I'm not sure your going to find any Refurbished ones as D* doesn't ask for them back.

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Smuuth

Monday at 10:48 AM

Jimbo said:
I'm not sure your going to find any Refurbished ones as D* doesn't ask for them back.

Yeah, I know. At one point, I even had 3 AM21s but gave them away when I got rid of my last HR54 and switched to the HS17.

Arctic_fox

Today at 10:00 PM

Good luck they haven't made them in years. you could poke around on ebay and see if there's any on there. if not why not a tablo or a zapper box with an antenna connected to it

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Smuuth

52 minutes ago

Arctic_fox said:
Good luck they haven't made them in years. you could poke around on ebay and see if there's any on there. if not why not a tablo or a zapper box with an antenna connected to it

I have my OTA antenna connected to my television directly already so watching is not the issue. The reason I want the LCC is so I could record programs if I'm not at home to watch them live, especially since ABC is carrying both the NBA and NHL playoffs.
I have an active search on eBay and there is one there but he wants $180 plus shipping and I am not going to pay that.

Arctic_fox

49 minutes ago

Smuuth said:
I have my OTA antenna connected to my television directly already so watching is not the issue. The reason I want the LCC is so I could record programs if I'm not at home to watch them live, especially since ABC is carrying both the NBA and NHL playoffs.
I have an active search on eBay and there is one there but he wants $180 plus shipping and I am not going to pay that.

a tablo box is cheaper

Amazon.com

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Arctic_fox

46 minutes ago

why invest in hardware that's going to be boat anchors in a few years?

zippyfrog

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 57 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Price Increase on Owned Equipment?

Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.

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telstar_1

Today at 1:28 PM

Does cable charge box rent?

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RJT79

Today at 4:47 PM

telstar_1 said:
Does cable charge box rent?

The cable company I was with years ago did charge $9.99 for a receiver.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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RJT79

Today at 5:03 PM

zippyfrog said:
Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.

I went to try to add the Heartland channel as dummy to see what it would do for me as I own my receiver and have DISH Outdoors and this is what mine shows. (Note however I had to take the 2nd receiver I told you I added the other day off because I was told you can only have 1 receiver when you have a one outlet on the Dish Playmaker and was having issues with the 2nd receiver and I didn't know that and that was done yesterday as well so I am back to one receiver.)

Let's upgrade your package.

Your monthly bill will increase by $6.00 per month.

Breakdown

June 11, 2026 - July 11, 2026
You are changing your programming in the middle of the bill cycle. The bill shown below is your bill for next month including prorations and credits. Your following bill will return to the fixed rate. This bill will take effect from now until July 11, 2026.
Monthly Services
$86.99
Flex Pack
$72.99
Local Channels
$14.00
Add-Ons
$68.98
National Action Pack
$12.00
Regional Action Pack
$12.00
News Pack
$10.00
Paramount+ with Showtime
$10.00
Drama and Classics Pack
$6.00
Heartland Pack
$6.00
Starz Encore Movies
$6.00
On DISH Magazine
$4.99
Starz 2 Mo ($11)
$1.99
Prorated Charges
$7.93
Heartland Pack Jun 11 - Jul 20
$7.93
Order Total
$7.93
Prorated Total
$7.93
Due Today
$7.93

Transition Bill Total
$156.10
Proposed Changes
Your monthly bill will increase by $6.00 per month
Monthly Services
$86.99
Add-Ons
$68.98
FCC Regulatory Surcharge
$0.13
Taxes & Surcharges
$0.00

Monthly Total
$156.10
Prorated Total
$7.93
Order Total
$7.93

Due Today
$7.93

Sounds like an issue with DISH Billing

RJ T.
From Illinois

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zippyfrog

Today at 5:19 PM

I asked again, and the rep I talked to said it is a glitch and that "Access for TV" shouldn't be there - the rep pulled up my future month bills and that charge isn't on it. So I am not going to worry about it right now, but it will be interesting to see when the price changes happen later this year. Will this line item show up? The fact that it is a specific item that is different from anything makes me think it is more than a glitch. But we shall see.

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RJT79

Today at 5:29 PM

zippyfrog said:
I asked again, and the rep I talked to said it is a glitch and that "Access for TV" shouldn't be there - the rep pulled up my future month bills and that charge isn't on it. So I am not going to worry about it right now, but it will be interesting to see when the price changes happen later this year. Will this line item show up? The fact that it is a specific item that is different from anything makes me think it is more than a glitch. But we shall see.

I am hoping they don't add this down the road. Things are expensive the way it is now. Even DIRECTV allows the first receiver free. This would go against DISH and DISH is already loosing subscribers I wouldn't think they would do these kind of tricks but you never know. Always look at your bills for unknow charges. I heard horror stories of people getting charged for things they didn't know were there.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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Arctic_fox

57 minutes ago

telstar_1 said:
Does cable charge box rent?

yes big cable charges crazy dvr fee's and box rental fee's

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teachtom

Last reply Today at 9:21 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Problem when I switch from Bonus View channels back to regular Dish channels

Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks

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HipKat

Today at 5:07 PM

teachtom said:
Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks

First off, great TV. I'm torn between the 77C5 or the 77G5.
It sounds like the handshake between the Receiver and the TV is having a problem. Are you using the free cable that came with the Joey or a higher speed HDMI cable?? That's the f irst place I'd look

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RJT79

Today at 5:17 PM

teachtom said:
Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks

First off, The analog to digital switch, also known as the digital television transition, is the process of converting older analog television broadcasting technology to digital broadcasting. It's used through coaxial cable for the an antenna during the mandatory switch from Analog to Digital on June 12, 2009. You either had to get a converter for your analog (Tube TV) or use a converter box that has the analog or digital tuner or an HDTV which your is and has the tuner built in. Your TV is HD and using an HDMI Cable and nothing is connected by coaxial cable so this wouldn't apply.

In my theory it probably means a new TV. I had a TV go out on my switching between the Smart Screen from the HDMI inputs before because they went faulty. Sometimes electrical surges can cause this. If you have an older home or rent an older home or apartment sometimes the electrical outlets are not grounded and these days HDTV's need a ground which can cause them to malfunction and go bad quicker. Never plug it directly in an outlet. It will damage the TV.

Hope I could be of some assistance.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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teachtom

Today at 7:33 PM

RJT79 said:
First off, The analog to digital switch, also known as the digital television transition, is the process of converting older analog television broadcasting technology to digital broadcasting. It's used through coaxial cable for the an antenna during the mandatory switch from Analog to Digital on June 12, 2009. You either had to get a converter for your analog (Tube TV) or use a converter box that has the analog or digital tuner or an HDTV which your is and has the tuner built in. Your TV is HD and using an HDMI Cable and nothing is connected by coaxial cable so this wouldn't apply.

In my theory it probably means a new TV. I had a TV go out on my switching between the Smart Screen from the HDMI inputs before because they went faulty. Sometimes electrical surges can cause this. If you have an older home or rent an older home or apartment sometimes the electrical outlets are not grounded and these days HDTV's need a ground which can cause them to malfunction and go bad quicker. Never plug it directly in an outlet. It will damage the TV.

Hope I could be of some assistance.

RJ T.
From Illinois

Thank you for the information. I do keep the TV plugged into a surge protector, but we have had pretty strong thunderstorms/lightning in the last month so that have contributed to my problem.The house was built in 2009 so everything seems to be grounded correctly. We have had a power surge also. Seems like no one fixes anything any more, so just get a new one or live with the problem. Thanks

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teachtom

Today at 7:39 PM

HipKat said:
First off, great TV. I'm torn between the 77C5 or the 77G5.
It sounds like the handshake between the Receiver and the TV is having a problem. Are you using the free cable that came with the Joey or a higher speed HDMI cable?? That's the f irst place I'd look

I think the HDMI cable is good, i used one of my own from my 4K atmos system, i'll switch it with another just to check. Also I have a bid in at Greentoe for 77" G5. Thanks

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HipKat

Today at 8:17 PM

teachtom said:
I think the HDMI cable is good, i used one of my own from my 4K atmos system, i'll switch it with another just to check. Also I have a bid in at Greentoe for 77" G5. Thanks

I hope that works. I'm waiting til Black Friday sales

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Darrell S

Today at 9:21 PM

I've had this problem with my older Sony TV. It happens when I just punch in a regular channel number. The only way it works right for me is to push guide and select a regular channel from the guide screen.

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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

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An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Last reply Today at 8:59 PM · posted in TV Shows

House of the Dragon

House of the Dragon, the prequel to Game of Thrones, premieres on HBO Max on 8/21. I will be warching

'Game of Thrones' spinoff 'House of the Dragon' fires up release date at HBO, drops new character pics

The wait’s felt a little like watching for a dragon egg to hatch, but HBO’s hugely anticipated Game of Thrones prequel series finally has a release date. House of the Dragon will debut the first of its initial 10-episode season this summer, the network revealed today in a series of tweets that...

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KAB

Sep 30, 2024

That was as bad as the rest of the show. Jean Smart was mostly invisible.

Jim S.

Oct 6, 2024

I prefer the trailer for the movie adaptation of Mario Kart. At least that had Pedro Pascal in it.

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Feb 19, 2026

View: https://youtu.be/i6w7O1kwuBk?si=Q557kzRMDJYsAl4j

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Feb 20, 2026

"A new line of unsullied kings" would seem impossible given the GoT definition of "unsullied". :biggrin

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natevw

Last reply Today at 8:02 PM · posted in FTA Receiver / Equipment Support

GEOSATpro Does anyone recognize these channels (/audio loop)?

Hi all, I recently inherited a FTA system off Craiglist and have been trying to get it set up. What I got was a Glorystar-branded ~90cm offset dish with a ground mount (/flat roof) frame, and GEOSATpro DSR200c receiver. From that initial equipment, I've replaced the old LNBF with a (cheap!) new one and also splurged on an SG-2100 H-H motorized rotor which does respond from the receiver's USALS menu.

The previous owner had it set up for religious programming on Galaxy 19 and I've been trying to start by finding that same bird at least. After a couple sessions I'm not sure I have, but I've found *something* at least! A handful of motor ticks further than the dish wants to be for 97W after starting from motor 0 pointing as much south as I can guess at. (I don't have great references to aim for and it's really hard to sight where exactly the dish is pointing anyway….)

Anyway, so far there's only one transponder that I've ever been able to catch as I search. It's 12146 V and when the receiver scans it I get this list of video channels:

1.1 Srv_1
2.84 OU_Chan
3.2 Srv_2
4.5 Srv_5
5.3 Srv_3
6.4 Srv_4
7.6 Srv_6
8.7 Srv_7

There's iirc three audio channels it finds too but I didn't get a good snapshot of those. All the channels except for one seem to be dead (black screen and silent audio), except for the OU_Chan one which on both days I found it was just rolling one same ad over and over on a loop. I won't repeat the full roll since I don't want to spam the forums as my first post

but it's a long-winded spiel about "you know us as an industry-leading satellite solutions provider with over a quarter million sites" and to call them For All Your Every Needs™ type thing.

While I get little blips from other frequencies, this is the only strong transponder I've been able to come across. My receiver shows it as S 75 and Q up to 85 when I adjust it. It actually seemed to get better as I **un**skewed my LBNF — iiuc G19 was supposed to be -20º for me but however I'm supposed to be reading/referencing the angles the puck is now basically at 0º relative to the dish/arm got the strongest on this transponder.

Anyway sorry this is so long winded already… my question is, do I even have the right satellite? None of the other transponders that are supposed to be active on G-19 seem to come in. And if not the right satellite does anyone happen to recognize which one I might have found instead? I think knowing that would help me then adjust for a truer south aim and then hopeful the USALS will work automatically once I can get it dialed in.

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cyberham

Jun 2, 2026

Correct LO setting to 10600 MHz. Set receiver to 12053 V 22000. Use USALS to motor over to 97W Galaxy 19. Then, loosen bolts and rotate entire assembly (motor & dish) very slightly east or west until you peak on that transponder.

You should be able to blind scan in 6 transponders (DVB-S) and dozens of channels.

When using a motor, just set skew of LNB for 0 degrees and don't change it. The motor automatically rotates the dish to the correct skew.

natevw

Jun 4, 2026

cyberham said:
Correct LO setting to 10600 MHz. Set receiver to 12053 V 22000. Use USALS to motor over to 97W Galaxy 19. Then, loosen bolts and rotate entire assembly (motor & dish) very slightly east or west until you peak on that transponder.

Done and done and done! I ended up doing a bit more iteration (back and forth between the left-right and up-down adjustments) but I've now got it landing on G19 at its default position for 97W.

cyberham said:
You should be able to blind scan in 6 transponders (DVB-S) and dozens of channels.

Yep, ended up with a page or two full on my receiver's search. Didn't double-check that my receiver has all six of the right transponders but I can mess with that later if it turns out I'm missing something interesting but still DVB-S / MPEG-2 compatible.

cyberham said:
When using a motor, just set skew of LNB for 0 degrees and don't change it. The motor automatically rotates the dish to the correct skew.

Yep, can see definite signal degradation as soon as I skew the LNB either way from "straight" (seam on the LNB lined up with the clamps on the mounting bracket). Will make setup easier if I want to try swapping anything else in!

I don't know if there's any good (unencrypted, DVB-S) satellite farther away to really check the sweep against, but I was at least able to program in my original find at 101.0 W back in (now at the correct "12000 V 20000" setting) and can get both birds automatically.

Shouldn't be *that* exciting since it's just an ad, but still really fun to choose channels on the other one and have it jog over and lock on

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cyberham

Jun 4, 2026

Motor over to 123W Galaxy 18 and try for 12078 V 3680 (Korean Broadcasting System). It is DVB-S. And 12008 H 12660 (Daystar mux) on the same satellite.

Beyond these, you'll need your new receiver that supports DVB-S2.

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Brct203

Jun 4, 2026

natevw said:
Done and done and done! I ended up doing a bit more iteration (back and forth between the left-right and up-down adjustments) but I've now got it landing on G19 at its default position for 97W.

Yep, ended up with a page or two full on my receiver's search. Didn't double-check that my receiver has all six of the right transponders but I can mess with that later if it turns out I'm missing something interesting but still DVB-S / MPEG-2 compatible.

Yep, can see definite signal degradation as soon as I skew the LNB either way from "straight" (seam on the LNB lined up with the clamps on the mounting bracket). Will make setup easier if I want to try swapping anything else in!

I don't know if there's any good (unencrypted, DVB-S) satellite farther away to really check the sweep against, but I was at least able to program in my original find at 101.0 W back in (now at the correct "12000 V 20000" setting) and can get both birds automatically.

Shouldn't be *that* exciting since it's just an ad, but still really fun to choose channels on the other one and have it jog over and lock on

beside 123W, another one to try (if it's above the horizon at your location) is Hispasat @30W. It has at least 2 DVB-S transponders with SD/Mpeg2 channels

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natevw

Today at 7:36 PM

cyberham said:
Motor over to 123W Galaxy 18 and try for 12078 V 3680 (Korean Broadcasting System). It is DVB-S. And 12008 H 12660 (Daystar mux) on the same satellite.

No luck finding this one. I motor over and it seems like a pretty dead spot of sky. I did get a slight blip (Q up to 1% or 2%) if I lowered the dish slightly. So I wonder if my polar mount itself maybe needs a bit of fine tuning?

Even when loosening the bolts and manually nudging the dish up/down/left/right nothing seemed to really wake it [new receiver, see below!] up and never saw anything more than 4% or 5% which I don't know is even real or could have been just noise?

Brct203 said:
beside 123W, another one to try (if it's above the horizon at your location) is Hispasat @30W.

I'm in Washington state (northwest CONUS) so this one's not an option for me.

cyberham said:
Beyond these, you'll need your new receiver that supports DVB-S2.

I now have a V8 Finder 2

I've been able to scan in more now on G-19, and as well as watching the ad on SES 1 and getting some PBS stations there and G-16 both. So three satellites kinda in the general vicinity of each other (97W/101W/99.1W) programmed and able to rotate between.

Is G-18 at 123W as strong as the others? According to Satbeams I should be at least somewhat in its footprint although it looks like it's maybe focused more on Alaska.

Now that I'm back at my computer waiting for the Finder to charge back up looks like the Eutelsat(s) 117W have a couple Ku transponders I could look for too.

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cyberham

Today at 8:02 PM

On 117W, try for BVN. It has a C/N lock of just 1.0 dB so it's easy to receive. See transponder data on Lyngsat. 123W is receivable. Your motor is not perfectly on the arc yet.

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