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They both start at about the same price. Opinions?
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I can't drop the locals. Need to be able to watch those informercials at 2 PM in the afternoon. ;)

Flex is definitely competitive, but has fees, but the fees allow access to Dish premium discounts and much larger DVRs.
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Flex is definitely competitive, but has fees, but the fees allow access to Dish premium discounts and much larger DVRs.
It isn't as if the OTT guys don't have fees too. Adding fees to give you a usable DVR and additional streams are just the beginning.
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Bruce
It isn't as if the OTT guys don't have fees too. Adding fees to give you a usable DVR and additional streams are just the beginning.

no fees with Vue ( DVR and 5 streams), I do not believe You Tube Live has fees either.
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no fees with Vue ( DVR and 5 streams), I do not believe You Tube Live has fees either.
But DVR is 30 days, and you can't upgrade it (which works for some people). Everything has its price, though. OTT is cheaper because it contains fewer frills, which again is an individual thing from person to person.
Zookster
It isn't as if the OTT guys don't have fees too. Adding fees to give you a usable DVR and additional streams are just the beginning.

I would associate extra costs for multiple user access (streams) more with cable/satellite than with OTT services. Is there any cable company or satellite service that doesn't charge for box rental and service on a second and third (and fourth, etc.) TV? And how many of these offer free access outside the home, anytime anywhere, without extra costs? Sure, Dish has Dish Anywhere, but for full access, don't you need a Hopper 2 or 3 (and the extra costs associated)? With Cox Cable, I needed the $30/mo. Contour upgrade (before box rental) to get access to my channels and recordings anywhere outside my living room TV.

Each OTT service does have certain quirks and limitations, but you basically get at least two simultaneous streams (sometimes 3 or 5) anywhere in your home and often outside the home included in the base package fee. With YouTube TV, for example, I get full access, including recordings, in every room of my house, anywhere within home Wi-Fi range, and I could have a couple of other people watching at the same time (with their own viewing profiles), for $35/mo. I'm pretty sure I get full access outside the home, but haven't tried it yet.

Bottom line for me is the biggest savings from OTT live TV services comes in accessing my service anywhere without paying a penny more.

I'm not saying some services don't charge extra for even more simultaneous streams, but that's just to prevent people from sharing/selling their login info too widely. It's really a non-issue unless you have a large family.
harshness
Sure, Dish has Dish Anywhere, but for full access, don't you need a Hopper 2 or 3 (and the extra costs associated)?
DISH Anywhere is also available on the VIP line of true DVRs with a "Sling Adapter".
Bottom line for me is the biggest savings from OTT live TV services comes in accessing my service anywhere without paying a penny more.
If Vue and YTTV become competitive in the marketplace, you I think you can expect fees but for whatever reason, they aren't the market leaders.

I consider being forced to watch commercials a fee. 20 minutes/hour (a defensible number for network television) adds up to several dollars a day and that adds up to dozens of dollars a month.

I question the value of consuming a lot of TV outside the home.
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What is the Price? I've seen anywhere from $29.99 to $49.98
Gobucks
DISH Anywhere is also available on the VIP line of true DVRs with a "Sling Adapter".If Vue and YTTV become competitive in the marketplace, you I think you can expect fees but for whatever reason, they aren't the market leaders.

I consider being forced to watch commercials a fee. 20 minutes/hour (a defensible number for network television) adds up to several dollars a day and that adds up to dozens of dollars a month.

I question the value of consuming a lot of TV outside the home.
I had Vue for a while. I was never forced to watch commercials. I could record to my hearts content.

This is the first place where I have seen people that store so much on their DVR. Everyone I know records and then watches within 30 days. I do have a buddy that stores a few Ohio State games though.

PSVue is great for the price. 5 streams DVR included.

I don't understand why people can't say.... hey nice deal glad that works for you. Its always fees and rising prices are coming. Sure that might happen but not as fast as cable and satellite.

Oh yeah and if OTT becomes a leader maybe that will force good oh traditional cable and satellite to compete. It worked for T mobile. People here laughed and said no way. Boy where they wrong.

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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
dishstaller
Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
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I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Juan
Not alot of dish customers any more
Foxbat
I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
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I really dislike change for the sake of change
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
dishstaller
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Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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dishstaller
BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.
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If you're going try to read / listen to the book (can't recommend the audio book enough) before this comes out, I'd avoid trailers.

Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!




Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.
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I've seen it twice. Can't recommend the audio book enough, Ray Porter's performance is amazing and there's so much more in the book than the movie.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
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Forgot to comment. I did watch when it first came out on MGM. I enjoyed it a lot. I think reading the book made it easier to watch. Several friends commented it was a little hard to follow.
TRG
TRG
"astrophage". I read the book but didn't see the film yet.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
That's what I will be watching this weekend.🤗
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Kindle book on sale for $2.99 today at Amazon.
dishstaller
.........there's so much more in the book than the movie.
I agree. That can go for pretty much any book vs movie. Back when I was single I would read any Stephen King or John Grisham book I could get my hands on. When you read a book you make up the scenes and characters in your mind.....the movie version always disappoints.
meStevo
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.

Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place. :eek:
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
meStevo
Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


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dishstaller
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I had quit watching this show years ago because I ended up more annoyed than entertained. Well......I'm STILL more annoyed than entertained. I DO find it interesting to see how things work behind the scenes at many businesses. What annoys me is how utterly out of touch CEOs are with the companies they run. At the end of almost every episode the head of the company is amazed at how hard the employees have to work and many times have to work around impossible guidelines set forth from headquarters.

I found this one interesting because the new CEO had big plans for this company, Muscle Maker Grill, and it looked like the stores were all pretty busy. Recent history hasn't been good to this company however. I bet the covid lockdowns were the real killer.


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Scott Greczkowski
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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

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Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

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Tickle Me (Dirty, Dirty Feeling) - Elvis Presley
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