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Last reply Jun 30, 2018 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

East, West... Does it matter?

I need some insight into how Dish assigns channels to it's satellite orbitals and what the future should look like. For almost a year we've seen HD channels dropping off of our program guide due to uplink changes, and I didn't have time to analyze the potential solutions until now.

In over 10 years we've never been able to receive the complete western arc or complete eastern arc due to the position trees behind our house, and I can't legally trim them. I've been able to get all the channels and HD we want by using 110 & 119 orbitals on one dish and flipping back and forth between the 61.5 and 72.7 orbitals on a second dish, but i'm getting tired of second guessing the dish heads [sic] who decide those channel assignments.

I think that by making some adjustments with our two dishes it's feasible to get the three eastern arc orbitals or possibly the three western arc orbitals. If I can settle on one arc or the other, will that put an end to this folly of orbital juggling? We live in the Houston, TX market. Should I care whether we use the eastern vs. western arc? James Long's current channel lists and lots of data manipulation indicate that we would receive almost the identical channels and HD channels with either one. Can I trust Dish not to screw that up if I settle on one arc?

P.S. It sure was easier to analyze these problems with "The List" than with the format James uses for his "Uplink Activity Center?" Thank goodness James produces it, but has anybody found a better way than HTML editing, copy/paste, and Excel data manipulation to tabulate which orbital combinations carry which channels?

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navychop

Jun 30, 2018

I'd love to know the logic behind that locals arrangement for the VI.

WAIT- Why do I think there's ANY logic?

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rvvaquero

Jun 30, 2018

navychop said:
I'd love to know the logic behind that locals arrangement for the VI.

WAIT- Why do I think there's ANY logic?

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It's probably because Elmira and Erie have a high population of virgins..........or something like that.

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pattykay

Jun 30, 2018

rvvaquero said:
It's probably because Elmira and Erie have a high population of virgins..........or something like that.

Maybe it's because the Virgin Islands have a high population of Elmyras..........now that's Eerie! :eeek

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charlesrshell

Jun 30, 2018

crodrules said:
Maybe it's because the Virgin Islands have a high population of Elmyras..........now that's Eerie!

What is a Elmyras?

pattykay

Jun 30, 2018

charlesrshell said:
What is a Elmyras?

Plural of Elmyra, a Tiny Toon Adventures character. Look it up.

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NYDutch

Jun 30, 2018

Maybe Elmira and Erie were the first locals to agree to be retransed to the VI? Does Dish need FCC approval to use an out of market station where there's no defined Nielsen market? And is Elmyra Duff really Elmer Fudds sister???

pattykay

Jun 30, 2018

NYDutch said:
Maybe Elmira and Erie were the first locals to agree to be retransed to the VI? Does Dish need FCC approval to use an out of market station where there's no defined Nielsen market? And is Elmyra Duff really Elmer Fudds sister???

As far as CBS from Erie, I believe that is because the owners of that station also own a station in Puerto Rico, and they just simulcast the same feed. Since the Virgin Islands gets most of their locals from Puerto Rico, they also get CBS Erie. As for Elmyra and Elmer, no relation.

NYDutch

Jun 30, 2018

crodrules said:
As far as CBS from Erie, I believe that is because the owners of that station also own a station in Puerto Rico, and they just simulcast the same feed. Since the Virgin Islands gets most of their locals from Puerto Rico, they also get CBS Erie. As for Elmyra and Elmer, no relation.

According to the James Long listings, US VI only gets their Fox local from PR.

pattykay

Jun 30, 2018

NYDutch said:
According to the James Long listings, US VI only gets their Fox local from PR.

View attachment 133803

Look at the San Juan, Puerto Rico listings. Those two US VI stations are also carried as part of their package. So there is some overlap.
San Juan, PR, Locals on DISH Network (Unofficial Listing)

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navychop

Jun 30, 2018

crodrules said:
...As for Elmyra and Elmer, no relation.

I think she's distantly related to Wile E. Coyote.

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NYDutch

Jun 30, 2018

crodrules said:
Look at the San Juan, Puerto Rico listings. Those two US VI stations are also carried as part of their package. So there is some overlap.
San Juan, PR, Locals on DISH Network (Unofficial Listing)

Oh, certainly there's some overlap, but that still leaves the US VI only getting one local from PR. Another oddity on the list though, is that PR appears to be getting CBS from both Erie, PA and Charlotte Amalie, VI, yet the US VI only gets CBS from Erie according to the lists. I think my brain is starting to smoke... :coco

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pattykay

Jun 30, 2018

NYDutch said:
Oh, certainly there's some overlap, but that still leaves the US VI only getting one local from PR.

To clarify, I did not mean that the US VI gets most of the channels from the Puerto Rico package. I meant that most of the channels in the US VI package are also carried in the Puerto Rico locals. Furthermore, those US VI channels were carried in the Puerto Rico package many years before Dish ever offered any locals to the US VI.

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NYDutch

Jun 30, 2018

navychop said:
I think she's distantly related to Wile E. Coyote.

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Hmmm, "Elmyra" is the feminine version of "Elmer", and "Duff" spelled backwards is... :whistle

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pattykay

Jun 30, 2018

NYDutch said:
Hmmm, "Elmyra" is the feminine version of "Elmer", and "Duff" spelled backwards is...

...ffuD

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NYDutch

Jun 30, 2018

crodrules said:
To clarify, I did not mean that the US VI gets most of the channels from the Puerto Rico package. I meant that most of the channels in the US VI package are also carried in the Puerto Rico locals. Furthermore, those US VI channels were carried in the Puerto Rico package many years before Dish ever offered any locals to the US VI.

Ok, that makes sense...

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rvvaquero

Jun 30, 2018

crodrules said:
Plural of Elmyra, a Tiny Toon Adventures character. Look it up.

You're such a nice guy. I would have stopped with "Plural of Elmyra".

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mheisen

Last reply 4 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Hopper 3 with Hopper plus internet connection problems

Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?

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Yesterday at 2:50 PM

mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?

I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?

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mheisen

Yesterday at 6:11 PM

Almighty1 said:
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?

I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 6:33 PM

mheisen said:
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.

Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.

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slow_poke_pete

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Almighty1 said:
Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.

Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713

slow_poke_pete

4 minutes ago

mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?

Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!

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